According to wikipedia, “an open thread refers to a blog post where readers may comment and discuss any topic that they choose. They are usually more useful on popular blogs with large amounts of traffic…” For the literal minded who take that “any” too literally…
Thanks! I guess you must own property on the good side of the Great Wall! (See the movie ‘Caddyshack” for reference.)
Indeed, that film featured one of my Wang relatives. I believe he is a third cousin seven times removed.
Islamite is an actual term. See https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Islamite
Does a tinkers ‘dam’ cost more than a tinkers ‘darn’?
On the tinker’s dam issue, yesterday I had a leaking boiler in a townhouse where I live repaired. The repairmen poured Quaker oats into the boiler, which finds the leaks and fills the holes/cracks quite effectively!
Important to use the real stuff, not instant!!
Happy New Year!!
Thanks! I guess you must own property on the good side of the Great Wall! (See the movie ‘Caddyshack” for reference.)
Glad to be of service. After all the Wang family has been honing our translations programs for over 6,000 years, which I gather is longer than most.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker
A tinker’s dam is a temporary patch to repair a hole in a metal vessel such as a pot or a pan. It was used by tinkers and was usually made of mud or clay, or sometimes other materials at hand, such as wet paper. The material was built up around the outside of the hole, so as to plug it. Molten solder was then poured on the inside of the hole. The solder cooled and solidified against the dam and bonded with the metal wall. The dam was then brushed away. The remaining solder was then rasped and smoothed down by the tinker.[4][5]
In the Practical Dictionary of Mechanics of 1877, Edward Knight makes this definition: “Tinker’s-dam – a wall of dough raised around a place which a plumber desires to flood with a coat of solder. The material can be but once used; being consequently thrown away as worthless”.[6]
“Neither one is worth a tinker’s dam.” – Wang Tang-Fu
I’m sorry but my translation program does not understand. What does that mean?
“Islamites”?
I think the word you’re looking for is “Muslims.”
Andy makes an excellent point about African-Americans who are Islamites via a history of conversion, namely they are likely to be subject to Federal surveillance and worse, and therefore might be accessible to a sensible libertarian message.
Lipsey-Lancaser theorem; their paper, “The Theory of the Second Best”.
Core result: Suppose we have a good laissez-faire economic system; matters will work at a certain level.
One piece of this is an absence of tariffs.
Suppose one piece of the system breaks some of the laissez-faire rules, e.g., imposes import restrictions.
In this case, there is still an optimum (within that constraint) *economic* solution, as to what trade etc rules will give the best economic results for other parties, but it is *not* the same solution, and other parties will in general do worse under laissez-faire, e.g., tariff-free, behavior than under alternatives.
The result is only 60 or so years old.
Sorry, wrong link. This is the correct one-
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/exploringourmatrix/2012/06/chariot-wheels-in-the-red-sea-hoax-persists.html
Neither one is worth a tinker’s dam.
WND is World Net Daily. The Snopes article above refers to WNDR – World News Daily Report
I can’t take anything from,WND seriously at all. This is why-
http://www.snopes.com/religion/redsea.asp
“I am surprised that Trump got any support from Muslims, but on the flip side, maybe these are Muslims who recognize that there are problems in the Muslim community.”
Or maybe they are poll stuffers who are not Muslim at all. Who verified their religious status?
“I’d also question how scientific the poll was.”
Nah….You think?!
“David Duke comments on Trump:”
Not interested in the video, but I agree with the quote on the screen that Trump is worse than Duke, since Trump could have a real chance to win power.
FYI, I am not indicating that I think that Donald Trump should be the next President, but rather I am pointing out that he seems to be getting a lot of support.
There’s no question he is getting a lot of support. However, it’s simply not true that he is getting a lot of support from blacks, Latinos, Jews or Muslims, and your junk sources say a lot more about what kind of nonsense you take seriously and pass on than they do bolster the alleged case they are trying to make.
The only major party candidate who I would even consider supporting would be Rand Paul, and even with Rand Paul, he’s not as good as his father. Plus Rand stands close to zero chance of winning.
I agree with the last sentence.
How is Brother Nathanael racist (he is an ethnic Jew who converted to Christianity)?
He is a notorious self-hating anti-Jewish bigot who was born a Jew, allegedly converted to Christianity, dresses up like a priest and spouts anti-semitic garbage that is highly popular with the Stormfront set. It takes very little effort to look this up, and you make yourself look very foolish as you continue to defend this severely mentally ill and hate filled individual.
I noticed that the Irregular Times article ended by saying that Donald Trump only had lots of support among white Christians, but according to the information pointed out by Brother Nathanael in the video, Trump is getting lots of support from Jew Americans as well.
His “information” is, to put it very nicely, pure junk.
“Trump is getting lots of support from Jew Americans as well.”
Should read, “Trump is getting lots of support from Jewish Americans as well.”
Phrase it any way you wish, it still remains errant nonsense and the fact that you take it seriously and pass it on hurts your credibility as well.
According to Redsilverj, both Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders are really running to put Hillary Clinton in the White House.
I wouldn’t rule that out. On the other hand I also wouldn’t rule out Trump winning himself, or an establishment Republican type (whether running as the Republican nominee or as a nominal independent) winning either. I have a hard time seing Sanders having a real shot.
I looked at that WND poll last night. It did not even include Rand Paul for some reason. And, along with high support from minorities, Trump received 100% of the Muslims polled, though there were only two.
Let me guess…was it one of those unscientific self-selecting internet polls where everyone and their pet goldfish can vote as many times as they want? Even if it wasn’t, two does not begin to approach representative sample size.
“William Saturn
December 31, 2015 at 13:32
I looked at that WND poll last night. It did not even include Rand Paul for some reason. And, along with high support from minorities, Trump received 100% of the Muslims polled, though there were only two.”
I am surprised that Trump got any support from Muslims, but on the flip side, maybe these are Muslims who recognize that there are problems in the Muslim community.
I’d also question how scientific the poll was.
I suppose that they might also be black American Muslims.
David Duke comments on Trump:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrKC4syl9d4
I looked at that WND poll last night. It did not even include Rand Paul for some reason. And, along with high support from minorities, Trump received 100% of the Muslims polled, though there were only two.
According to Redsilverj, both Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders are really running to put Hillary Clinton in the White House.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WwUgD8ldR8
“Trump is getting lots of support from Jew Americans as well.”
Should read, “Trump is getting lots of support from Jewish Americans as well.”
How is Brother Nathanael racist (he is an ethnic Jew who converted to Christianity)? I saw the videos online and thought they were interesting.
I noticed that the Irregular Times article ended by saying that Donald Trump only had lots of support among white Christians, but according to the information pointed out by Brother Nathanael in the video, Trump is getting lots of support from Jew Americans as well.
FYI, I am not indicating that I think that Donald Trump should be the next President, but rather I am pointing out that he seems to be getting a lot of support.
The only major party candidate who I would even consider supporting would be Rand Paul, and even with Rand Paul, he’s not as good as his father. Plus Rand stands close to zero chance of winning.
It is too bad that the field of candidates for the LP nomination is so weak right now.
As if WND was not bad enough, now you are posting openly racist shit? Shame on you.
And, no, it simply isn’t true, and your sources are, needless to say, not even remotely close to being reliable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G59mNNfLZx8
According to Brother Nathanael (Jew turned Christian), Donald Trump is receiving lots of support from Jewish Americans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lv-r_XQK4M
http://irregulartimes.com/2015/12/31/fact-check-does-donald-trump-have-strong-minority-support/
Wow, according to recent polling data, Donald Trump is getting lots of support from black and Hispanic Americans.
Minorities Line Up Behind Trump
http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/minorities-line-up-behind-donald-trump/
“Because a new poll, which still has Trump leading the race, shows 40 percent of blacks are lining up behind Trump, as are 45 percent of Hispanics, and even nearly 19 percent of Asians.
Blacks and Hispanics, in fact, even support Trump at a higher level than whites.”
This is an Open Comment to the entire IPR community and an apology
It appears we go off to a bad start. I admit I was snarky, argumentative and took things too personally.
I had good intentions and at some point they totally went off the rails.
I am not mentally ill, though I do suffer from depression occasionally.
I am not unhinged, my hinges are all where they are supposed to be, I checked while I was showering.
I am normally a very nice person and try to stay out of the deeper political discussions.
If you will let me continue to be a part of your community I will try to keep my snarkiness tucked away. I will endeavor to be non-confrontational and most of all I will be a little thicker skinned. We are all human, we have our faults and our virtues
I have known John McAfee for over 3 years. During that time I have had many conversations with him and I consider him to be a close friend. John is fluid. You never know what will come pouring out of that beautiful mind of his.
When he announced he was going to run for President under his own party, the Cyber Party, I knew that he would not magically appear on any ballots. It took a few conversations to convince him that we needed a real party site where people could sign up and register for ballot access. We also needed a real platform and a few other things.
Research and data analysis being my thing, I did what I do best and found the one person who knew the most about Ballot access. More conversations later and I had John’s blessing to do what I needed to do. As many of you know, some states make it easier with the party name while others make it damn hard.
In the very beginning I suggested he sign on with an established party. Given the way he lives his life, the Libertarian Party seemed the most likely choice. Yes, I admit, his platform is not exactly like yours and in some places completely contradicts yours.
I can tell you that at the core, he is Libertarian. to take each plank and whack him over the head with it will only gives him a headache and you splinters. He started out as a one issue candidate, Cyber Security. The rest of the platform was probably written bu committee. It is not carved in stone And it does not reflect all of John’s beliefs.
He has just announced. As time goes on and he settles in and gets to know the party population better, things will evolve.
I love my Country. I am a third generation Californian. My great grandparents were immigrants.We were poor. I come from a single mother household and I have vowed that my children will have a better life than I did. I have mostly succeeded I think. They are my biggest accomplishment.
For the first time in my voting life, the choices foi candidate from the main two parties are completely unacceptable. We need a third party to step in Libertarians, this is your moment, your time to shine. John may not be the candidate you want, but he is the candidate you need. I will do everything I can and everything he asks me for to make that happen. That, along with suddenly losing my job in the campaign of getting him on the ballots, make me a little emotional and raw last night. For that I truly and sincerely apologize.
I am willing to give it another go, if you are. There is so much mis-information out there about John that I would like to set the record straight if possible.
I await a reply from a few crtain people that they are willing to be bigger than our egos and work together, I know I am.
Thank you for your time if you made it this far.
Chhers..
Thanks George, interesting read as always. Article to be posted, probably today.
Liberty for America
Journal of the
Libertarian Political Movement
Crusading for Liberty Since 2008
Volume 8 Number 6
Christmas 2015
George Phillies, Editor and Publisher
[email protected]
But, first,
Merry Christmas to All!
And all those other Holidays, too!
Table of Contents
Merry Christmas to All!
How to Spend Money
Ballot Access Committee
Presidential Candidates
Oregon
LNC In Action
Maine Ballot Access
LNC Ballot Access Debate
Candidate Training
Sell The Nomination
Real Politics
Beware Young Americans (allegedly) for Liberty
The Free State Project is a Failure
Report of the 2014/2016
Libertarian Party Audit Committee
14 November 2015
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
On April 25, 2008, the Constitution Party national convention chose Chuck Baldwin over Alan Keyes. On June 28, one California convention of the AIP also chose Baldwin. But on July 5, another state convention of the AIP with different officers chose Keyes. On July 21 the California Secretary of State recognized the Keyes meeting and not the Baldwin meeting. On August 26 a California state trial court refused to disturb the Secretary of State’s decision. Keyes had no bargaining chip as early as the date of the Constitution Party national convention.
In 2016 the Constitution Party is again holding its national convention in April, and it is very likely the California AIP won’t make any decision until July or August.
http://amthirdpartyreport.com/2015/12/24/the-constitution-party-wants-53k-for-its-lawsuit-over-sb54/
With best wishes for a joyous holiday to my Christian friends and supporters.
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/a-jewish-message-for-christmas/
Saturday Night Live mocks the Republican presidential debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0Th70moeuc
Dedicated to those IPR writers/commenters worried about this country becoming too “pc”:
https://youtu.be/Nytkzah78eU
Bargaining chip? Actually it could be the opposite for him, I’m afraid :/
There’s still a ton of animosity between both parties today; I learned that the hard way.
Didn’t seem to do Keyes much good.
If the California AIP nominated him before the CP convention, that would be a pretty significant bargaining chip.
Yes he certainly is. But will the establishment in the CP allow it?
That is the question.
J.R. Myers is a voice of sanity in today’s Constitution Party. If the party is smart, he will be the nominee.
That’s good of you, J.R., but at the same time there are going to be people in your party that will applaud such a proposal.
This is also an old matter that was ruled by a judge earlier in the year that it could be kept off the ballot, and even still the attorney that filed it keeps such a low profile that he’s nearly off the the grid. Though from what I have read about online, the guy has mental issues and is also the WBC type.
You trippin’ scro?
Cody,
So…Austin Petersen? 🙂
Here’s some yuletide commentary that I found on Facebook:
Twas the week before Christmas, when all through the House,
All the liberals were stirring, while conservatives groused.
The wish lists were hung on the approps bill with care,
In hopes that Obama would bless it with flair.
The Members were nestled all smug in their heads,
While visions of donors danced in their heads.
As Ryan the new Chief, and Nancy the shill,
Agreed they would stick us with a huge spending bill.
They went to the House floor with most in cahoots,
One trillion and more and tax breaks to boot.
It took some arm-twisting to get enough votes,
While hapless taxpayers must carry the note.
Then on the House floor there came so much chatter,
That Members looked up to see what was the matter.
Away to their cell phones they flew like a flash,
To make sure their pet projects hadn’t been slashed.
They spoke not a word, but went straight to their work,
To pass all the goodies, while big-spenders smirked.
And laying restraint aside for the time,
Said let’s spend some money, put it all on the line.
Now, Ryan!, Now, Nancy!, Now, Hoyer and all;
On, Schumer! On, Harry! Cried Mitchell, “roll call.”
To the front of the room, and let gavel fall,
Now dash away! Dash away! Dash away all!
Their eyes—how they twinkled! Their dimples how merry!
Their cheeks were like roses, from wine and the sherry!
They all slapped their backs and most had a smile,
Though taxpayers will feel the pain for a while.
But some raised a ruckus and said it’s not right,
“We promised the voters that we would be tight.”
“Who cares?” came the answer, “It’s Christmas, don’t fear,
We’ll just tell the voters we’ll do better next year.”
Then they sprang to their limos, with drivers inside,
And away they all flew, all filled up with pride.
And I heard them exclaim as they drove out of sight,
Happy Christmas to all, we spent trillions tonight!
I absolutely repudiate this effort as the vile hate filled measure that it is.
http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2015/03/calif-attorney-files-for-ballot-initiative-seeking-to-have-all-gays-executed/
Until Johnson jumps into the race, here’s a true champion of the people that we can support-
https://www.facebook.com/votecamacho/?fref=ts
Beer, Brawndo, and Tarrlytons… Nuff’ said.
‘Merica!
I need to learn to better proof-read my comments.
I was thinking more on the state level, but I can see the benefits of enacting it at the local levels first to get voters familiar with the system and convince them of its benefits.
Still, I surprised that it isn’t something that is more regularly attempted
In 2008 various parties including Libertarians, Greens and others collected enough signatures to qualify a ranked choice initiative on the City of Glendale, AZ ballot. It received a 45% yes vote (e.g. it was not enacted).
http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/glendale/articles/2008/03/31/20080331gl-vote0329-ON.html
http://www.fairvote.org/rcv#rcvbenefits
I not sure where better to put this question, but since everyone on IPR congregates here, I figured it would be the best place.
Why hasn’t the Libertarian or Green parties pushed for Instant-Runoff-Voting at the state-level?
I recognize that quite a few of the state parties are quite robust, and while I see a lot of discussion regarding how Top-Two is proving detrimental to Third Parties, a point on which I agree, I doesn’t seem like all that much is being done to put forth an alternative, to enact it, and then use it as an example for other states.
Trump Keeps Trashing the First Amendment, Yet the First Amendment Is the Only Thing Protecting Trump’s Vile Outbursts
https://reason.com/blog/2015/12/18/trump-keeps-trashing-the-first-amendment
Trump’s bigotry “could happen only in America with complete assurance that no criminal proceedings will follow.”
Damon Root|December 18, 2015 11:49 am
https://reason.com/blog/2015/12/08/donald-trump-trashes-religious-liberty-f
Related: Donald Trump Has Now Trashed Religious Liberty, Due Process, Equal Protection, Private Property, and the Bill of Rights
Donald Trump Thinks Political Leadership Means Murdering Journalist Critics
Trump excuses Vladimir Putin’s killing of opposition voices.
Peter Suderman|December 18, 2015 10:28 am
https://reason.com/blog/2015/12/18/donald-trump-thinks-political-leadership
This has Don Grundmann written all over it.
http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2015/03/calif-attorney-files-for-ballot-initiative-seeking-to-have-all-gays-executed/
https://reason.com/blog/2015/12/18/republicans-want-to-bomb-agrabah
http://fox13now.com/2015/12/08/the-constitution-party-wants-53k-for-its-lawsuit-over-sb54/
https://reason.com/archives/2015/12/17/conspiracy-of-fearmongers
Putting the Terrorist Threat in Perspective
How likely is an American to be a victim of terrorism?
Sheldon Richman | December 17, 2015
I just posted @ California Libertarian Report a commentary on the chickenhawk droppings that littered the stage at the Republican Debate on National Security, on Wednesday December 15 – http://calibertarianreport.com/2015/12/17/chris-christiei-will-shoot-down-that-plane/
https://reason.com/archives/2015/12/16/to-reduce-inequality-cut-red-tape
Will do.
You should post that as an article here too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO7fPKF8220&feature=youtu.be
I have posted an article about how Donald Trump embodies some of the more negative traditions of the Republican Party on my blog @ http://calibertarianreport.com/2015/12/14/donald-trumpan-old-time-republican-after-all/
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vyXikd6f7ew
https://www.facebook.com/ProducerPetersen/videos/vb.294291737296480/1004263679632612/?type=2&theater¬if_t=live_video
Happening now–
Great news from California!
http://ballot-access.org/2015/12/12/american-independent-party-opens-its-presidential-primary-to-independent-voters/
Region 6 has several excellent activists with good credentials, who would be a credit to their region as a new Regional Rep. Their own Regional Alternate. Jake Porter of Iowa. Julie Fox of Illinois.
It was inevitable that the hatred permeating our country affect some deluded Libertarians. What a pity–but at least Riemer has outed himself.
Allow me to be the second, for all the reasons George Phillies stated. I seriously doubt, however, that Roland Riemers consulted with anyone in his region before opining on the LNC list.
I am in receipt of the follow message that seemed to appear on the LNC list [email protected]
“On 12/11/2015 12:52 PM, Roland Riemers wrote:
Humm, with our apparent lack of outstanding presidential candidates, I would suggest if Trump decides to run independent, we sell him our endorsement for a tidy sum, and we use the money to actually get some of our other candidates elected to office. His running on our ticket, even if just done for public and pragmatic reasons, would also gender enough votes to insure our ballot status in a number of states as well actually getting us some elected state and federal officials.
Roland Riemers Reg. 6”
Mr. Riemers is the Region 6 Regional Representative to the LNC.
Allow me to be the first to repudiate and condemn the Region 6 Proposal that we should run Donald Trump as a candidate. Trump is a racist, an Islamophobic bigot, a defense welfare advocate, an antiabortionist, a man who cheered mob violence in one of his rallies, and a supporter of the Kelo decision. For starters.
Mr. Riemers’ position is disgraceful for a Libertarian National Committee member. It is also operationally wrong, in the sense that the number of voters who can be moved The American Way — BOMB THEM WITH MONEY! — is too small to win, when you start with zero base. Readers who do not believe me should consider that Jeb! has outspent all of his opponents combined by a lot.
Also, having met or spoken to a half-dozen of our Presidential candidates, in my opinion there are some good though very different people running. Here are four of them at my state convention:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcZdSpBjDtg
George Phillies
https://reason.com/archives/2015/12/10/panicked-responses-to-terrorism-helps-fe
Panicked Responses to Terrorism Helps Feed It
ISIS wants our invasion and rejection of Muslims
Steve Chapman | December 10, 2015
I forgot about that. Thanks Paulie!
Nicholas Hensley,
Not sure if you remember, but you are signed up to post articles to IPR if you want to do so.
Any and all topics. We needed some place to discuss issues, operations and have people ask questions. It’s a political sandbox for members, supporters and observers.
Also the Secretary (me) will have his own Facebook page as well. Here’s this one. https://www.facebook.com/Nicholas-Hensley-1453585331600119/
That’s pretty cool Nicholas. What topics will be discussed?
The Reform Party opened up its discussion group on Facebook today. https://www.facebook.com/groups/reformparty/
My Offer to Stop Donald Trump by Scott Adams
He is making an offer to stop Donald Trump for $1 billion. He mentions crowdfunding. I wonder if there is a billionaire that would consider the offer. I imagine they are content with their current influence sources.
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/134861704021/my-offer-to-stop-donald-trump
I heard the Overton window being discussed during prime time MSNBC tonight.
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Overton_window
I don’t think Trump is at 95%, at least not yet. But he does have a disturbingly high number of people that he is playing like a violin, I agree. He is a classic demagogue-dictator in the making and I do believe he has a real chance of being elected.
Paulie I will offer to answer my own question. I don’t support Donald Trump but his actions and the reactions of the media continue to make me think that Master Persuaders are playing 95% of the public like a violin.
http://mediamatters.org/video/2015/12/08/stephanopoulos-points-out-trump-is-being-compar/207334
It was on TV as I was flipping channels. They had video.
Paulie> BTW, Trump has now publicly said he does not mind being compared to Hitler.
Paulie, do you have a URL for that claim?
Grand Old Party, meet Grand Wizard.
References to Republiklan and NSGOP are no longer just hyperbole or rhetoric.
BTW, Trump has now publicly said he does not mind being compared to Hitler.
And, while hasn’t said it publicly, but I’m sure he is actually proud of that accurate comparison.
CBC Radio’s The Current had me on as part of a panel discussion regarding gun ownership and gun control in the U.S. this morning. http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-december-8-2015-1.3355145/gun-owners-weigh-in-on-calls-for-tougher-us-laws-in-wake-of-shootings-1.3355174
In this case he is way off base. See links above. The religious extremists want the US regime to crack down on Muslims, refugees and even immigrants or whole ethnic/racial/religious groups. See Niskanen link above and links therein for example.
Matt Lewis quoting Erick Erickson:
“Have none of these people read Art of the Deal? This is an opening, bombastic salvo to set the terms of negotiations and the other candidates except Ted Cruz just decided to negotiation [sic] in Barack Obama’s position. And it comes at a time some polls are suggesting Trump is starting to fade in places like Iowa.”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/08/donald-trump-changes-the-subject-and-hurts-conservatives/#ixzz3tlBRAf3Q
A small portion of Scott Adams post today on Donald Trump:
“In summary, I will agree with critics who say Trump’s call to ban Muslim immigration – even temporarily – is Hitler-scary. I hope all good Americans are offended by the suggestion on some visceral level even if you think it has to be done.
But if you plan to participate in this conversation, and you aren’t willing to put a price tag (in terms of American deaths) on your preference for maintaining religious open-mindedness, I will find it hard to take you seriously.”
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/134791529391/risk-management-trump-persuasion-series
I don’t know what Scott Adams political beliefs are but he seems able to look at issues with a very piercing view.
https://niskanencenter.org/blog/with-anti-muslim-proposal-trump-aligns-himself-with-isis/
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/trump-close-up-the-internet
The Constitution requires that Representatives be at least 25 years old. This Wednesday (12/9) will be my 25th birthday, so we’re having a mini money-bomb, to help kick off the campaign as we gear up for election year. As evidence of my constitutional eligibility, I’ve even released my birth certificate. 😉 It’s the kind of obscure constitutional trivia tie-in I couldn’t resist. We just ordered our first batch of cards, banners, signs, and a bunch of pocket Constitutions. Hopefully we’ll have some video and audio materials soon as well. I feel like things are getting off to a good start, and the next $400 donated will also help us meet a $500 matching pledge.
http://www.AndyCraig2016.com
https://www.facebook.com/events/719909838139829/
In league with The Greeks: Why The West is best.
https://youtu.be/4Ibnwpnsgs0 via Greg Swann at:
http://selfadoration.com/redeeming-western-civilization-by-curing-the-incuriosity-of-the-east/5274
It looks like he has a supportive family, plus he’s still young, so hopefully he’ll gtet past this.
I wish I could do more for him.
Jill–
Thank you for running the link to Mike McDermott’s GoFundMe site.
A terrible tragedy, but Mike has written me several times to say that he won’t let this stop him in his fight for liberty.
jim> Thane: You refer to “the audience” as though it is monolithic.
Good point.
LOL, totally understandable. Although if you’re in Alaska, 03:51 eastern… that’s not even midnight your time 😛
Late night posting?
Jim Crow wrote; “Why not “nay-gleesh”?
Ironically, this IS the way a spanish/portuguese speaker would pronounce ‘neglish’;
which begs the question, ‘Which country did your ancestors escape from?
JRM – a news tip for one of our own articles? That may be a first 🙂
Meanwhile…. http://irregulartimes.com/2015/12/05/when-a-nation-detains-people-without-trial/
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2015/12/idaho-will-hold-its-first-presidential-primary-for-a-party-other-than-the-republican-and-democratic-parties/
Thane: You refer to “the audience” as though it is monolithic. Sure you meant that? Instead, perhaps a small number of people finds my words to be unwelcome. However, this discussion area is not labelled as being “For the Politically Correct Only. All others are not welcome”.
jim,
I don’t think the audience here finds your words to be informative by and large. Your conversations with myself and others do not portent well for long term sustained exchange of ideas, in my opinion. I appreciate your past comments and should others find more value in your comments then that would be great.
“Do Republicans Really Want to Create 12 Million Refugees?
Most Republicans could care less, UNLESS they show up in THEIR neighborhood!
Thane: what do you mean I’m not listening to others? I’m not AGREEING with others. I’m denying what they say. Others are pretending to not be not paying attention to what I say, but they then post snarky comments to others, etc.
So think again.
Political Correctness Kills: This morning, I heard on a local Portland Oregon talk show, that some neighbors of the San Bernardino mass-murderers had observed suspicious activity at their rented house, but failed to report it. It was because (they said) they were afraid of being labelled ‘racist’ or ‘Islamophobic’. Particularly in California, virtually the home of PC, this would make perfect sense. If true, this means that PC now has a death toll of at least 14 cold bodies, and 21 wounded. How many other houses around America are occupied by future terrorists, and are suspected by neighbors afraid of being called ‘racist’ or ‘Islamophobic’.
Dino Salazar,
In my opinion jim isn’t listening to others and others aren’t listening to jim by and large. I’ve tried to engage him but he seems interested in making points for an audience that largely isn’t there. Jill Pyeatt’s claim that “Jim is accomplishing nothing except for wasting his own time” seems quite valid in my eyes.
Dino, nope, that’s not happening. No one is taking Jim seriously except a couple people who agree with him, which means that Jim is accomplishing nothing except for wasting his own time.
Jim is kicking the PC liberals butts in this debate. Keep up the good work!
PC’s eat their own.
“CU-Boulder Anti-Racism Rally Canceled Because Organizers Are White”
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/22/cu-boulder-anti-racism-rally-canceled-organizers-white/
Clinton and her 1000 classified emails that didn’t exist.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-media-not-reporting-clinton-110000058.html
At IPR, we have covered Michael McDermott, of the New York LP, as he has run for office several times. He had a terrible event a few months ago, and lost a leg. His family is asking for some help with purchasing a prosthetic leg.
https://www.gofundme.com/xu2k2dgq?utm_source=internal&utm_medium=email&utm_content=cta_button&utm_campaign=upd_n
Geraldo’s tweet on the San Bernardino shooting:
“Geraldo Rivera ?@GeraldoRivera Dec 2
The key now is for us to be as outraged by San Bernadino massacre as we would be if Muslim extremists were doing the killing. This is terror.”
No wait…
Jim,
Thank you for your interesting comment above. It is clear you have a passionate interest in human psychology. Would you say that you generally agree or generally disagree with the following Scott Adams article?
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/132408086396/why-donald-trump-will-ruin-the-world
Wikipedia: Passive Aggressive
Another source characterizes passive-aggressive behavior as: “A personality trait marked by a pervasive pattern of negative attitudes and characterized by passive, sometimes obstructionist resistance to complying with expectations in interpersonal or occupational situations. Behaviors: Learned helplessness, procrastination, stubbornness, resentment, sullenness, or deliberate/repeated failure to accomplish requested tasks for which one is (often explicitly) responsible”.[2]
According to Living with the Passive-Aggressive Man, a self-help book, a passive man does little to get what he wants as it is too much effort to do so, and ranges from the inept “loser” type to the conformist who does anything to be liked, avoids making waves and rarely says what he feels.[3]
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Political Correctness is not merely an example of mass-hysteria, it is also an example of “conformists who do anything to be liked”. People who don’t do anything to be liked are called “haters”, and are considered non-PC.
No, I’m saying you can’t confuse me or anyone else with your endless bullshit, and you aren’t even worth it. Trying to prove the obvious that your bullshit is in fact bullshit is a pointless and endless waste of time.
Chicken: In other words, you’re repeatedly saying, “Don’t confuse us with the facts!!!”
Figures.
All your arguments have been addressed repeatedly and aren’t going to be addressed again. They are designed to waste time and disrupt more productive conversation here, as I explained above. You are absolutely, without the shadow of a doubt a racist, and the more you spin, dodge and weave to laughably pretend you are anything else the more you prove it.
It’s amazing that Chicken seems to like to talk about the controversy, but he doesn’t want to address my arguments. The comment above at 7:55 illustrates this well. He doesn’t address the arguments because he has no answer!
This is odd, because I too don’t like “racism, the drug war, and police violence”, too. However, I recognize that America has freedom of speech and thought, and (as a libertarian) I don’t believe that government has any business trying to prohibit “racism” by individuals, companies and corporations. Quite simply, we are free to have wrong thoughts, and express wrong ideas. Or at least, we should be free to do so. People who grew up in unfree countries may not agree, however.
I have been opposed to the drug war for many decades, too: I don’t recognize the authority of the government to regulate (prohibit) the use of drugs currently called “illegal”.
As for “police violence”:There have clearly been some incidents where cops have crossed the line, and in some cases FAR across the line. Those cases are currently being prosecuted. But there have been others where the main fault is that of others, including the ones who end up dead. Ferguson?
I believe it was Paulie who foolishly claimed that the video evidence showed that Brown had actually paid for the stuff he was taking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maA1FUJqhew Did I remember to ask him how good the resolution of the video was, for him to be able to determine if the amount of money Brown placed down on the counter equalled the value of the merchandise taken? It wouldn’t have mattered: Paulie wouldn’t have had a credible answer anyway. “Duh, what?!?” would amount to his answer.
Of course, it is repeatedly pointed out that in Ferguson, Brown didn’t deserve to die because he strongarm-robbed that store. But he didn’t: He died because he assaulted the cop through the car window. As the grand jury clearly found. People talked as if he was going to college. What they never addressed is how anybody could expect Brown to go to college, after he had been convicted and sentenced to a 3-5 year term in the state penitentiary for that strongarm robber. “Duh, what?!?” amounts to their answer.
The most likely answer is that the people who cite the college-thing simply assume that in a neighborhood like that, the local thugs simply are allowed to occasionally pilfer merchandise from the local store, without fear of prosecution. (It is pointed out that the store owner DIDN’T call in the theft, that was done by another person in the store: Could it be that if the store owner had indeed called in that theft, his life might have been made hell by the local thugs, explaining why so many people implicitly thought that robbery, and the idea he’d go to college, weren’t incompatible.)
It’s way too bad that nobody got that shooting on video. It’s worse that the cop car didn’t have a video camera installed, although such a camera installed in its typical location might not have recorded the violent action at the car window.
There IS an incident where I am clearly on the side of the black victim, one that you might not expect. That case where the black kid was playing with what turned out to be a toy gun. Two cops showed up in their car, opened their doors, and the kid was shot and killed. What’s the problem? Those cops should have stopped much further away from the only apparent suspect, the kid playing alone. By stopping just a few feet from the kid with the gun-looking object, in effect they created an emergency when no such emergency should have existed. Had they stopped maybe 100 feet more away, neither one would have been in a position to think he needed to pull his gun and fire away.
BTW, I thought OJ SHOULD have been acquitted, too.
Stop pretending you think I’m racist.
The more Jim spins his wheels digging in his heels to defend the obviously bigoted bait-words the more exposes his true self. Jim knows what he is doing when he race-baits and group-baits in general, and he knows the rest of us do too. He gets his jollies trying to get everyone else to spin their wheels in going in circles with his sophistry. Better to let him spin his own wheels instead. The obvious problems of missing context with his videos were pointed out long, long ago yet Jim crows about them endlessly.
Jim is actually very PC – from his own side. But above all else, he is just engaging in a more sophisticated version of trolling. He keeps harping on certain subjects specifically because he knows they shock and offend many people, which he enjoys doing, derail discussions and waste huge amounts of people’s time and put him and his games at the center of attention. Perhaps he also specifically wants to demoralize activists who like to use IPR as a gathering place for other kinds of discussions and are also active in doing anti-establishment work. It’s possible that being a troll and disruption agent on behalf of police and the military-industrial complex is some form of conditional release/sentence reduction, or his way to stay on the good side of police and prosecutors if they should ever contemplate going after him again.
Racism, the drug war and police violence aren’t just things by themselves, they are ways to systematically oppress groups of people and gradually route millions of them into prison slave labor that makes a lot of money for a lot of people and inspires the public fear of crime that inspire the draconian police state measures that perpetuate this cycle and make some people very rich and powerful and undeservedly so. Hatred of Muslims, wars abroad and domestic espionage related to the “war on terror” and hatred of Latinos and calls to stigmatize, profile, round up, and deport them – sometimes coupled with protectionist trade war rhetoric – also fuel the prison and shadow economies around black and grey markets that make some people very rich and powerful, using government to steer wealth and power their way.
The more these people fuel these wars, the bigger and more oppressive government gets and the more wealth and power it steers their way. Naturally these folks don’t like anti-establishment politics that challenges the “war on drugs,” “war on terror,” wars abroad, police-prison-industrial and military-industrial complexes, the war on migrants and trade wars leading to actual wars with other countries. Racism is useful to them to help fear and hate keep public opinion on their side. Disrupting and demoralizing their opposition, and making the opposition spin wheels in answering sophistry games played by online semi-veiled racists serves their purpose, and Jim is serving their purpose here – quite likely knowingly so.
Wang said:
“Ebonics may or may not be derogatory.”
Maybe you just make things up as you go along. Evidence?
” “Neglish” certainly is.”
Without some actual EVIDENCE you can cite, how can you be so sure? Particularly when the only other people making that claim are Paulie, whose first language probably wasn’t English, and Jill. How can you be so sure when you yourself don’t claim to be a native-English speaker?
“For one thing, no one has ever self-described as a Neglish speaker, unlike Ebonics.”
Since I haven’t listened to 100% of the world’s people, 100% of the time, I cannot be quite so certain. How come you are so certain?
” For another, it purposely uses an outmoded term, Negro, that evokes a Jim Crow era and the attitudes that went with it.”
Even today, the proper name for the Negro League baseball teams is…wait for it…The Negro League. It’s explained that this was simply their name, during that era, and besides it would be contrived to try to “fix” that, retroactively. And the “United Negro College Fund” is still in business, I think.
Also, try saying it out loud. The only way I can thing an English speaker would pronounce sounds like you would start saying “nig…”
I suppose you aren’t aware of the English word, “renege”, are you? It’s pronounced, “re-nayg”,
Another word: “negligent”. Pronounced, in relevant part, similarly.
You’re welcome.
“Jim crows about “Neglish” being in Urban Dictionary, a user-submitted online dictionary.” Guess what else is in there? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Nigglish Also lots of other charming “nig-” terms.”
Are you aware that there is a word in English, “niggardly”? It means “stingy” or “miserly”. See the Wikipedia article, “Controversies about the world Niggardly”. It derives from the Middle English (English as used in about 1400 AD) “nigon”, meaning the same thing. The Wikipedia article describes a few incidents in which people display their atrocious lack of education by mistaking the meaning of the word “niggardly”.
You are probably unaware that there has long been a debate about dictionaries: Should they be descriptive (saying the way things are actually said) or definitive (saying the way things SHOULD be). The French, with their Academie Francaise, tend to want to be definitive, because the French language is defined by the A.F. English, much to the contrary, is not controlled by anyone one group, organization, corporation, or even country. The English language is like a mudball: Throw new bits of mud at it, and some will tend to stick. Over time, it will grow. That’s why there are probably only about 70,000 word in the French language today, and well over 800,000 words in English.
Tell me, how many Chinese symbols must a Chinese person know in order to be considered fluent in that language? According to the Wikipedia article, “Chinese Language”, “A well-educated Chinese reader today recognizes approximately 4,000 to 6,000 characters; approximately 3,000 characters are required to read a Mainland newspaper.”
So, now you can see why I have only the absolute LOWEST opinion of the statement of a non-native English speaker, for your claim that what you believe is the only way to pronounce the word, “Neglish”.
Why not “nay-gleesh”?
William Saturn: You said, “I think there’s too much emphasis on Jim’s use of the term “neglish.”
Yes, they simply used that as an excuse to take offense, immediately after I’d discovered the video where the two BLM protestors admitted they had assaulted and chased the bystanders.
” I’ve never heard the term before and a search on wikipedia turns up nothing at all https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?”
I suppose that’s not surprising. But it does Google-search.
“title=Special:Search&search=neglish&fulltext=Search&profile=default&runsuggestion=0. Most of the google results are simply a misspelling of “English.”
I agree with that, too. Because of the nature of Google-search, virtually any mis-spelling or typo can be found, in varying quantities, by the appropriate search.
“I think this “Jim is racist” idea based on his use of that term is much ado about nothing.”
Of course, I am definitely not PC, including on the subject of race. PC’s are virtually automatically ready to provide excuses for bad behavior or low performance, if the individual or group involved is said to be downtrodden. So it’s not just me: Do the research into PC, and you’ll find they declare that any non-PC person is a “hater”.
Ebonics may or may not be derogatory. “Neglish” certainly is. For one thing, no one has ever self-described as a Neglish speaker, unlike Ebonics. For another, it purposely uses an outmoded term, Negro, that evokes a Jim Crow era and the attitudes that went with it. Also, try saying it out loud. The only way I can thing an English speaker would pronounce sounds like you would start saying “nig…” Jim crows about “Neglish” being in Urban Dictionary, a user-submitted online dictionary. Guess what else is in there? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Nigglish Also lots of other charming “nig-” terms.
Yes, context matters. That’s why I agree with WTF that Jim is racist. That’s just about all he chooses to talk about.
I’m not sure why he hangs out on a blog re: alternate political parties if he doesn’t talk about that. He seems to have little interest in this.
Context matters. I’m sure I’d get the same reaction if I went up to someone and said something about “ebonics.” Now “ebonics” is not an offensive term by itself. It is an actual term for African American Vernacular English https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebonics_(word). I’m assuming “Neglish” means the same thing.
Of course you’d think that. Got any black folks around where you live? Try it out on them – especially if you don’t know them. Now, to be fair, I never heard it before either. But then it’s pretty self explanatory. The first part kind of conflates “negro” and “nigger” (“nig…:) and then sends a blend of both into “English.” Naturally this was only the last, not the first, straw with Jim. There have been plenty of signs that he was a racist before this. I won’t waste time recounting theml, but this removes all doubt if anyone had any left.
I take back what I said about Jim not making friends here. He may well make good friends with William Saturn, and then expand his circle of friends from there to include Don Grundmann, Nathan Norman and Robert Milnes.
I think there’s too much emphasis on Jim’s use of the term “neglish.” I’ve never heard the term before and a search on wikipedia turns up nothing at all https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=neglish&fulltext=Search&profile=default&runsuggestion=0. Most of the google results are simply a misspelling of “English.” I think this “Jim is racist” idea based on his use of that term is much ado about nothing.
They would be escaping persecution. Displaced person is also part of the definition you found and that’s exactly what the deranged policy you support would create. …ten million or twenty million displaced people. It would wreck the US economy, create global havoc, make the US a pariah nation… crops would rot in the fields like they did in Alabama when they passed a less draconian migrant-bashing bill than the authoritarian truly gigantic police state nonsense you support.
Folks, meet Jim Bell, charter member of Anarchists for Fascism at home and abroad. Man who survived prison but didn’t figure out that “Neglish” is offensive. Cryptopunk hacker who believes every transparent line of BS on Faux News. Libertarian anarchist and assassination politics author who wants endless wars against a billion and a half Muslims, roundups and deportation of (at least) tens of millions of people in the US, and falls all over himself to lick police and nazi stormtrooper boots every time there’s an incidence of police brutality that galvanizes street protests. The man is a complete self-contradiction. Who exactly does he expect to fall for this cock and bull?
Here, I will tell you the definition of “refugee”, found at when I did a Google search for ‘refugee definition’.
“ref·u·gee
?refyo?o?j?/Submit
noun
a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.
“tens of thousands of refugees fled their homes”
synonyms: émigré, fugitive, exile, displaced person, asylum seeker; boat people
“collecting blankets for the refugees”
The illegal aliens in America are mostly economic migrants. If they were forced to leave America, that movement would not satisfy the definition above:
1. They wouldn’t be escaping war.
2. They wouldn’t be escaping persecution. (they are actually treated far better in America than where they came from; that’s why they’re here.)
3. The wouldn’t be escaping a natural disaster.
So, forcing them to leave America, by the definition above, wouldn’t make them “refugees”.
No thanks. It was fine the first time.
Wang: You failed to define what a “refugee” is. You merely said what you think it isn’t. Try again.
Undocumented worker =/= refugee. Many refugees are legal immigrants. Most undocumented migrants are not refugees. However mass roundups and deportations would make them refugees. Jim is I’m sure well aware of this, just as he already knows that people crossing bogus government gang lines, with or without permission, are neither illegal nor alien. And certainly not after many years, often practically or even literally a lifetime in the part of the continent that the US government gang claims as its turf, they are far from being alien much less refugee. They are just people who live here without permission from the biggest bunch of crooks on the planet. But who’s to say anyone should have to have their permission to reside on this portion of the continent anyway?
Chicken: No, refugees were “created” when they left their homes. Some time later, they came to America. Therefore, they are now “refugees”, and they will remain “refugees” until they return to their homes. We are talking about illegal aliens, right?
They would be created when the US government would forcibly round them up to deport them. Many of them grew up here, or have lived here for many years and have no home anywhere else. Some people like Trump and, if I recall, you, also want to round up and deport their US born children as well. Many come from countries that don’t want them back, or where they would be killed if they went. They aren’t refugees right now; they live here.
When, exactly, were those `12 million refugees’ actually created? Presumably when they left their home, right?
Like I said, I skimmed it. I love his cartoons and was disappointed by the stuff you were linking. I did bring up the possibility he was joking, but I didn’t read it closely enough to get it. Information overload, sorry.
Paulie,
Thank you for reading my comments and taking a look at the Scott Adams article!
Paulie> Trump himself is more likely to be consciously manipulating these people than to believe such cretinous bilge himself.
That is the exact point that Scott Adams has been making in the Master Persuader columns.
Paulie> That article is incredibly silly on many levels.
Another point that Scott Adams makes IMO is that if you find his writing to be either silly or dumb that you haven’t read his writing.
Most of them, especially but not only the Trump fans, consider that to be a good start, but not nearly going far enough. Trump himself is more likely to be consciously manipulating these people than to believe such cretinous bilge himself. He wants to lead a massive lynch mob for the exact same reasons that megalomaniacal demagogues and dictators throughout history have. The only way forward if one happens to succeed in leading such a mob to victory is continual escalation to the point of a crash, lest the mob turn on its leader and literally tear him to pieces. That’s why Trump with the power to issue executive orders, command troops, address the nation on TV at will, get into pissing matches with other world leaders, and launch nukes (among a few other things) is a very bad idea on a world stage.
@22:08 That article is incredibly silly on many levels. Before you even get into the utter nonsense about Trump the idea that government was somehow different and better in the respects mentioned in the (never existed) good old days is easily exposed by even the most cursory study of history. Hopefully, this article was intended as humor. I skimmed it too quickly and haven’t read enough context to see whether it was intended to be taken seriously. If the latter that is very sad, downright pathetic really.
Do Republicans Really Want to Create 12 Million Refugees? by Warren Meyer (let’s just call him my second favorite celebritarian author)
http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2015/12/do-republicans-really-want-to-create-12-million-refugees.html
As it happens he is at 7 Discus comments compared to 234 Discus comments on the preceeding post. Hopefully Coyote Blog will start earning a few more commenters as his articles are certainly as worthy as those written by Scott Adams.
If I didn’t know the author’s name already I would be a bit surprised to learn who wrote this particular article.
“That Time the United States Government Was Replaced and No One Noticed”
Read more: http://blog.dilbert.com/post/134333208711/that-time-the-united-states-government-was#ixzz3t7lfIGRW
Wait, don’t tell me… that was Carly Fiorina, right?
“Dear Abby….. My husband hasn’t worked for the last 14 years. All he does is get
dressed in the morning and hop in his fancy car to visit his cronies. I know he`s
cheated on me many times with young girls who could be his grand daughters.
I know because he brags about this to me. He smokes fancy cigars and drinks
the most expensive Champagne day and night. We sleep in separate beds because
he`s always telling me he knows I`m a lesbian and my varicose veins and hairy back
turn him off! Should I clobber him with my frying pan, or should I leave him, Abby?
Your advice would be appreciated …..
Mad as Hell”
“Dear Mad as Hell….. You don`t have to take that kind of treatment from any man.
I suggest you pack your bags and move out a.s.a.p.! Don`t resort to clobbering him
with the frying pan, and try to act like a lady! Remember ……. you`re running for
President of the United States, so try acting like one!
Abby”
(note: I didn’t write this….but I wish I had!)