Independent 2016 presidential candidate Dr. Terry Jones sent out the following press release yesterday, announcing the location of a Koran burning ceremony scheduled for September 11, 2013.
WORLDWIDE BURNING OF 2,998 KORANS ON SEPTEMBER 11th, 2013
LOCATION: 4090 LAUREL CREST COURT, MULBERRY, FL 33860
We have secured a location in the Tampa Bay area for our September 11th event.
The radical hand of Islam shows itself with violence against anyone who dares to stand up and speak the truth. We at Stand Up America Now will not back down. We will not be silent.
Abraham Lincoln said, “To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men.”
On September 11th, 2013, to remember those who were murdered by radical Islam, and to send Islam a very clear warning, that they will not get their foothold in the American Constitution as they have done in Europe, we will be holding an International Burning of 2,998 Korans, representing one for each individual who was murdered in the September 11th, 2001 attacks.
President Obama is a aggressively working to convince the American public that civil rights laws are violated by those who make “inflammatory” statements about Islam. However, peaceful speech and expression is fully within our civil rights. Criticism of Islam cannot be avoided in light of its violent and oppressive nature. It is unjust that this scrutiny is to be considered “inflammatory” while the murderously inflammatory words of the Koran and the teachings of Islam’s leaders are protected by corrupt politics and politcal correctness. We are on an extremely dangerous path as a nation!
Video: Dr. Terry Jones to Burn 2998 Korans on 9/11
Stand Up America Now, invites you to send Korans to:
5805 NW 37 Street, Gainesville, Florida 32653
SEE OUR FACEBOOK EVENT PAGE: Worldwide Burning of 2998 Korans on September 11th, 2013
Thank you,
Dr Terry Jones
Stand Up America Now
Dr. Terry Jones is the Pastor at Dove Outreach Center in Florida. He is best known for his highly publicized Koran burnings, which often spark violent protests in the Middle East, and have led to the issuing of a warrant for his arrest in Egypt. He ran as a write-in presidential candidate in 2012, and on May 31, filed with the FEC for a 2016 presidential run.
what a stupid , ignorant idea
TLK@25
Lighting a CD on fire is not the same as lighting 2,998 actual physical paper books regardless of what you or anybody else thinks of the benefits and detriments of doing so.
As for the relative safety of the proposed burning of a thousand or two books I would imagine it will be plenty safe considering the number of eyes and TV camera teams that will be watching the goings on that day if in fact the event actually occurs.
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005852
I read the interview, as the first link you posted. The pastor still sounds like a douchebag, but he does make a few, somewhat valid points.
For those who would like to read more at length of Terry Jones from his own mouth as to why he does what he does and is challenged in a written interview by Kourosh Ziabari (a presumed Muslim) that is associated with Iran Review.
http://kouroshziabari.com/2013/07/i-dont-hate-the-muslims-pastor-terry-jones/
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/07/09/i-dont-hate-the-muslims-pastor-terry-jones/
(both URLs appear to have the same content)
Both posts are dated July 2013.
That would be really dramatic…..burning one CD
@23, 24,
If Jones is worried about cost effectiveness maximization, asking people to donate books is pretty silly. He can fit 2,998 copies of the Quran on one CD ROM. The fire will be a lot safer, too.
NS#23
If any given book burner wanted to maximize the cost effectiveness of his project why shouldn’t that person ask for free books? I can imagine that there might be book dealers or book wholesalers who might wish to further this project and are able to obtain the desired 2,998 Korans at a more affordable rate than the general public.
If the fact speaks volumes could you perhaps add a volume or two to your comment?
“Stand Up America Now, invites you to send Korans…”
I think the fact that Jones needs people to donate Korans to his little project speaks volumes.
@18
Good analogy. There is no reason to condemn religion as a whole based only on those who misuse it.
Personally, I don’t focus much attention on religion itself. However, whether I or anyone else realizes it, religious ideas are ingrained in society and in our concepts of morality.
Without religion to bring people together and form a moral compass, I’m not sure if early civilizations could have survived.
First and foremost government cannot legislate against someone being an asshole…
Secondly people have the right to either endorse these actions or ostracize those who would perform actions that are obviously inflammatory…
Being a libertarian I will defend this asshole’s right to be an asshole. However, my own personal code states that I will most definitely choose to dis-associate with anyone doing something so crass.
It is important for everyone to understand just how deeply swayed public opinion is through the use of hype…
sincerely,
Steve Scheetz
@13 “James, why are you criticizing Tom Knapp this time? […]”
I apologize for straying from the team psychology, nobody’s perfect and sometimes the best coach calls the wrong play.
We’re beginning a new season and our team should be practicing, practicing, practicing.
As my minister Dr. Johnson told me when I was a small child, perfect practice makes perfect.
I do need to perfect up on my writings, get more practice and since I’ve been out of the loop I’m a bit rusty.
“If Islam is a peaceful religion those of the religion must prove it by no longer speaking words of hate and no longer committing acts of terror and murder.”
The terrorists who claim to be Muslim misrepresent the faith as much as the Klansmen, skinheads and other murderous thugs who claim to be Christians!
No my friend, religious war is cancer. All Abrahamic faiths, and most all faiths in general, preach peace as a primary tenet of salvation. Churches, sects, and denominations are largely man made institutions and develop doctrines of their own which allow for corruption of principles and this leads to war and genocide.
In particular New Testament Christianity, as outlined in the scriptures, forbids such things as the crusades. It is when man takes over the faiths that trouble ensues. We are the problem not the faiths.
So you see God or religion in the general sense is not akin to cancer. It is most like a firearm. Safe and respectable when handled with care by a gentle steward but frightening and nefarious when wielded by a wicked man.
@16 – Christianity has killed just as many people as Islam. All religion is cancer.
Criticism of Islam cannot be avoided in light of its violent and oppressive nature.
There has been acts of rape, murder, terror, and terrorism in every continant in the world and in countries all around the world commited by Arabs and those of the Islamic faith all in the name of Islam and following the teachings of the Koran.
It is unjust that this scrutiny is to be considered “inflammatory” while the murderously inflammatory words of the Koran and the teachings of Islam’s leaders are protected by corrupt politics and politcal correctness. We are on an extremely dangerous path as a nation!
And when murder is committed in Isreal, France, Spain, United Kindom, Russia, Syria, New Zeland, Austrailia, United States, Germany, Brazil, and other countries in the name of Islam and the teachings of the Koran we are told Islam is a peaceful religion and the Koran does not contain words of hatred and murder. We are told to be silent and not condem Islam and the teachings of the Koran. If Islam is a peaceful religion those of the religion must prove it by no longer speaking words of hate and no longer committing acts of terror and murder. When will it end?
JW,
I agree. Jones has a right to act like a fucking idiot in public.
And I have a right to notice that he acts like a fucking idiot in public.
“Joe Wendt // Jul 26, 2013 at 9:01 pm
I don’t get what the big deal is: Americans and non-Americans burn the US flag, people are ok with it. This guy wants to burn some korans, people have a fit. He has a right to burn whatever the hell he wants because it’s a first amendment right. People who don’t like it should grow the hell up.”
He’s got a right to do it, but it is a moronic thing to do. This fool obviously buys into the official government fairy tale about 9/11. Even if one believes that BS, it is still stupid because blaming an entire religion for the actions of a few is retarded.
James, why are you criticizing Tom Knapp this time? It seems like Terry Jones is the one to be criticized on this post. I doubt Rev. Jones is interested in being a team player; maybe he would join if there were no Muslims on the team, but we don’t want to do that.
JW @ 11 – actually a lot of people are not ok with people burning the American flag. And it does not happen that often.
In more than 40 years of fringe political activity, I have only ever seen one person burn an American flag. I was quite surprised years later when this guy was elected to the Republican National Committee.
I don’t get what the big deal is: Americans and non-Americans burn the US flag, people are ok with it. This guy wants to burn some korans, people have a fit. He has a right to burn whatever the hell he wants because it’s a first amendment right. People who don’t like it should grow the hell up.
Yes, but even on his better days, Milnes is barely a quarter-wit.
@7 Any halfwit can figure out how to use a proxy or hidemyass.com
@5
Some may not support burning the Koran but it sure does make a sharp and painful point.
@6
Your question seems like an excellent argument in favor of forbidding Ogle anew.
As for why can’t Milnes comment here I would say that I don’t think there is any useful or educational angle to be had advocating for a PLAS ticket of a third party/Koran burning ticket that will take American politics by storm if and only if Robert Milnes were allowed to comment on IPR. There are many, many other forums that Robert Milnes can comment at. I sure hope he is using them, OTHER forums that is.
As long as he is not spamming, I see no problem with Ogle posting on here. Though he is banned, he has the technological means of going around that ban. Unfortunately, Milnes does not.
If Ogle can post here why can’t Milnes?
Does anybody object to letting Florida leave the United States? It may not improve Florida, but a lot of people will think better of the USA.
What an idiot.
Ogle,
I’m glad that what you are doing works great for you.
Everyone should have something that works great for them.
For me, a politically themed version of Advanced Dungeons & Dragons isn’t it.
I don’t give a rat’s ass why they called it Google.
What a great opportunity to for you Thomas! Learning politics of division from some of the best.
Unity just can’t be tolerated in IPR since it’s “bad for business” so it’s no wonder that promotion of such antics is acceptable. The trend to degrade women and nurture shock jock reporting while unity is blocked is the way to get IPR more eyes, right?
That’s exactly what plurality voting will bring…more ignorance and conflict.
Tired of the continual fighting and bickering? Try unity! We’ve been using it for 18 consecutive years and it works great! Why do you THINK they called it Google?
Jones and Dove Reach-Around Center fled to Tampa from Gainesville only a few months after I moved here. Coincidence? I think not.