What’s Going On NOW With the Libertarian Party of Nevada?

These articles were sent to me by an anonymous source, and, since they’re all published articles, I’ve decided to publish them here without comment. They concern Kurt Treptow, who is currently the treasurer for the Nevada Libertarian Party. He apparently also has uses the name Kurt Brackob.

The first one is the most explanatory, but it is in Romanian. I’ve published the link, but then I’ve provided below it the translation as provided by Google Chrome.

First article is enational .

This is the article, as translated by Google Chrome:

Kurt Treptow pedophile changed its name and is charitable. Children!

03/10/2013 · 16:36:53 | Author: eNational

After he was paroled from prison in Iasi, American historian Kurt Treptow, tried and jailed for pedophilia, he went to the United States. Nobody knew him since about six years.

Treptow changed identity and gained quite a lot, so it became more difficult to recognize, write newspaper of Iasi. He tried to forget the scandal in which he was involved to Romania, but reached the ears of the whole world, since this is a shocking topic: sex orgies with minors. According to him, Treptow is called, more recently, August Kurt Brackob, lives in Las Vegas and works in banking.

Moreover, “a member of a political party called the Libertarian Party of Nevada, being a treasurer. At this party, organized in recent years Brackob brought to public events to raise funds for the charity politicians, especially pentrucopiii coming from disadvantaged families. The last event of this kind organized by Kurt Brackob August was in December 2012, when the party of which the Foundation has collected toys “Lili Claire”, a well-known organization dedicated to children with special needs in the United States. Moreover, the former occurs Kurt Treptow some photos posted on Facebook surrounded by toys donated for children, “says the source.

The scandal broke in September 2002, when investigators raided the apartment in Iasi American historian Kurt Treptow, where they raised a number of photo and video materials that contained pornographic images. It was established that Treptow, along with his beloved Romanian, would be conducted hundreds of such pictures, photo or video that appeared in intimate situations with children. O month later, Treptow was sentenced to seven years in prison with execution. The decision became final in 2003, and American history was closed in Iasi Maximum Security Prison, where he went in 2007, paroled after he wrote a book.

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Here are the other articles.

The Washington Times

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The following letter was sent on March 28, 2013 to Joe Silvestri and the other members of the Nevada Executive Committe:

 

 

Dear Chairman Joe Silvestri and Executive Committee of the Libertarian Party of Nevada,

I am requesting a timely response to these important questions. Over two weeks ago, phone calls and emails were sent to Joe Silvestri (Chair) and Kris Roberts (Vice Chair) about another member of the Executive Committee, Treasurer Kurt Brakob (AKA August Kurt Brackob, AKA Kurt William Treptow/ AKA William Kurt Treptow) who was convicted and served a prison sentence in Romania for “Sexual Deviate Acts” with minors as defined by Article 201.1 of the Supreme Court Romania on 12/11/2002. It further is recorded that “Kurt” served 5 of his 7 year sentence for having sex with two minor children, 13 and 9 years old. The story was quite popular due to the political ties “Kurt” had with the Romanian Foreign Espionage Service as well as presidential advisers of the Left Wing Communist Party. His sentence was reduced due to “Kurt’s” writing of a book about Vlad Tepes, the historical model for Dracula.

Given this information, why has no action been taken by the leadership of the Libertarian Party of Nevada?

I have serious questions about the leadership of this party. Why has no action been taken from the current leadership of LPNevada;

    • when a registered sex offender with Tier 2 status (posing a probable risk of recidivism and threat to public safety)?

    • when there are pictures on the internet defaming the Libertarian Party brand?

    • when credible international news reports showing “Kurt” and Joe Silvestri (in Santa Clause attire) at a fundraiser collecting toys for CHILDREN??

    • Is Kurt using the Libertarian banner as a means of access to childrens’ charities such as Lili Claire Foundation and Toys for Tots?

    • has not notified the Lili Claire Foundation and Toys for Tots to notify them of his sex offender status and make sure no harm has been done?

Santa and Kurt

The picture is most disturbing because our Party logo and name are front and center with such a horrible headline.

It is absolutely vital that you account for your inaction for the past two weeks. I expected more from 2 teachers in the Clark County School District (and parent) than to protect a convicted pedophile.

I await your response,

Jason Smith

 

166 thoughts on “What’s Going On NOW With the Libertarian Party of Nevada?

  1. Filippo Di Noto

    Kurt Brackob is a dear friend. I have learned a great deal from him. I have come to respect him and his wife more so than anyone else I have met during my involvement in the Libertarian Party. I stand by him without question. These accusations are false.

    I find it extremely saddening that someone who has done so much for the cause of liberty not just in our country but abroad as well, and has paid dearly for it, is yet again being victimized for political gains.

  2. Rev fatsax

    @1. Did you read the articles? His attorney admitted to some of the false accusations? Pictures and video were evidence. He served 5 years…that isnt accusations…that is reported fact. I just want to know why the leadership hasnt acted…the only thing important is that he hid his status, changed his name and now has access to children. Fil, ignore the facts, but maybe err on the side of caution so another 9 year old isnt sexually abused! To say this is political is assinine.

  3. Filippo Di Noto

    When the tabloids say Elvis is still alive do you believe that too? I am very well read on this matter. I do not accept any conviction in which the accused was not given due process. I will not take the word of a neo-communist regime as fact.

  4. George Phillies

    Readers may recall that the Rumanian government put that last Communist dictator of Rumania, and his wife, up in front of a firing squad and shot them, with television coverage.

  5. Wes Wagner

    GP@5

    On Christmas! :)

    My wife is a Romanian refugee … fled as a child in the early 80s.

    That being said… she would not trust this guy near our child.

  6. Smart Alex

    So, it was all a corrupt government? That’s the story, and you’ll all be sticking to it?

  7. Krzysztof Lesiak

    Ok well there are several credible news sources on this matter Filippo and all point to this guy being a fucked up pedophile. Either you are a troll, Kurt himself, or you refuse to accept reality. When you have 5 news media organizations reporting on this guy’s transgressions as a sick and disgusting piece of shit, your defense of him means nothing.

    LPN: Get your shit together on April 27th and elect a completely new leadership.

  8. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    Even if this was a sad abuse from a treacherous government, the information is obviously on the Internet and can definitely damage the image of the party. I find it distressing that an officer of a state party wasn’t upfront about this. To many people, peophilia is a very, very serious matter. If indeed Kurt didn’t do it, why didn’t he disclose this at the beginning and allow the rest of the state offficers to deal with it? It’s not like the CA ExCom hadn’t gone through this just a couple years earlier.

  9. Filippo Di Noto

    Jill, I have never used this site before and am prepared to release an official statement from the LPN. I have contacted you via Facebook and I await your response.

  10. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    I’ve answered via Facebook. Either post it here as a comment, or send it to me an I’ll send it to the list of IPR writers.

  11. Danzel Douglas

    BTW If you go to Comstock Libertarians group on facebook, David Colborne posted a couple of sets of bylaws proposals, one from his group and one from the current exec comm.

  12. Danzel Douglas

    I tried to post it on another thread but the spacing was messed up. You may have to download the pdf file as posted on facebook.

  13. Elmer Whittaker

    GP 10

    How do we know that Kurt Brackop didn’t declare his criminal history to at least Joe Silvestri the LPN Chairman who nominated him as treasuer?

    I’m starting to get the feeling the entire LPN ex-com knew including thier webmaster Filippo Di Noto. The only one’s who apparently didn’t know was the LPN membership and the national LP.

    I cannot explain why this was covered up for so long. It was bound to be found out and is very damaging to the LP as such.

  14. Alan Pyeatt

    Jill’s right; we had a similar situation in the California LP a few years back, while I was still on the ExecComm. It was the most divisive issue I can remember, and even though IMHO it was resolved satisfactorily, it took up a LOT of time and energy. There are still hard feelings on the part of some people (pun not intended), and we lost some good activists in that episode who have not returned.

    Unfortunately, fairness to the accused is NOT the central point here. The overriding question is how the LP can be most effective in protecting our freedom. I sure don’t see how it helps to give our opponents ammunition to use against us.

  15. paulie

    According to a post on facebook, Brett Pojunis passed this information on to Joe Silvestri several weeks ago and nothing was done.

  16. David Colborne

    I would like to take a moment to address the first and most serious misstatement of fact (or, colloquially, baldfaced lie) in the official statement from the LPNV:

    Per the State of Nevada, Kurt Brackob is not on any registered sex offender list.

    This is factually and demonstrably incorrect, and a quick search of the Nevada Sexual Offender Registry (located here – http://www.nvsexoffenders.gov/) will quickly reveal the truth of the situation. In Nevada, Tier 2 and Tier 3 offenders (both are of the serious “touched children in inappropriate places, perhaps violently” variety; Tier 3 offenders are believed to have a high risk to re-offend, while Tier 2 offenders are considered less likely to re-offend) are listed in the Nevada Sexual Offender Registry listed above. However, due to various privacy concerns, the public does not have a right to access to all records in the Registry above. There are two particular cases where Nevada may choose to seal off an offender’s record:

    1. The information listed by the State may lead to positive identification of one or more of the victims involved.
    2. Harassment of the offender.

    When a record is present but not available to the public, the Registry returns the following result:

    The search of the statewide registry has not produced information that is available to the public through the statewide registry.

    Conversely, if the person isn’t listed at all, the Registry returns the following result:

    No offender listed in the statewide registry matches the information provided by the requester concerning the identity or location of the subject of the search

    Now, if you search for “Kurt Brackob”, you will get the second result – the Registry will return that there is nobody listed by that name. That’s because “Kurt” is actually Mr. Brackob’s middle name. He is currently filed under “August Kurt Brackob”, as several Google searches can easily confirm. If you search for “August Brackob”, or just “Brackob” in the Last Name field, you get the first result – that there is a record for that individual but that it is not available to the public.

    So, how can we confirm that “August Kurt Brackob” is the same person as “Kurt Brackob”? Well, there are two ways to accommodate that:

    1. Search before the record was sealed and confirm via mugshot. This, as I understand it, was the procedure employed before Silvestri was notified, and was also the procedure employed by the various Registry reflectors that people have been posting via trivial Google searches.
    2. Search by the home address of Kurt Brackob and confirm that there is a record present for that address.

    Since I don’t have access to Kurt’s home address (nor do I want it), I cannot positively identify whether or not there is a sealed record present for that address in the Registry. I’m sure one of Kurt’s friends can confirm or deny upon their own volition, however.

    Lest I lead anything to implication or suggestion, I will explicitly confirm that Kurt’s record was not sealed off from public access until after Joe Silvestri was notified of Kurt’s prior conviction.

  17. Steve M

    http://www.nvsexoffenders.gov/

    Warning:

    Under the provisions of state law and as further defined by the State Attorney General, this information is provided for general public safety. A person is authorized to use this information only to protect him/herself or a child who may be at risk. The release of this information to the public is meant to assure public protection, not to punish the offender. It is illegal to use information obtained through this web site to commit a crime against a registered sex offender or to engage in discrimination or harassment against a registered sex offender. Anyone who uses this information to commit a criminal act against another person is subject to criminal prosecution and/or civil action.

  18. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    Steve M, I maintain that the information that there’s a sex offender among a group with children should be information known to the caretakers of those children.

  19. Sam Kress

    OK, again:

    Who is threatening to commit a criminal act against him? Or, what is your point?

  20. Sam Kress

    You don’t mean to suggest that not appointing someone to the leadership of a political party is illegal discrimination, do you?

  21. Steve M

    It is illegal to use information obtained through this web site to engage in discrimination or harassment against a registered sex offender.

  22. Sam Kress

    ROFLOLOLOL

    That’s the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard…I mean that with all seriousness.

  23. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    It’s utterly beyond me how discussing public information like this, of such an incredibly serious
    nature, could be considered harrassment. I think maybe it’s an early April Fool’s joke.

  24. Alan Pyeatt

    I’m not sure how the term “discrimination” is defined as it relates to the NV Sex Offender website. But it seems reasonable to me that a political party would be justified – and supported by the public – if they were to use information from that site to prevent a convicted sex offender from holding a leadership position, especially since that person would likely be brought into contact with children at LP events.

    I am NOT advocating that the LPNV do that, but if somebody were to bring suit or file a criminal complaint against the LPNV, IPR, or individuals posting on this thread, it might actually bring some positive attention to the LP, since we would be seen as fighting for children’s safety. Not to mention improving the law.

    As a result, I don’t see that the threats of harassment charges are very intimidating.

  25. Heidi Walker

    Kurt is my brother, and my daughter’s uncle! From the time she was a toddler he would take her for at least a week every year to spend time with her, he stayed with our mother usually for most of his visits home. My daughter is 22 now and he has been nothing but a good uncle to her, absolutely no abuse of any kind! He was persecuted by the Romanian government which is full of such corruption……..are you really so nieve to believe all convictions in Romania are just, especially to an American who spent years there trying to better things. It was a way to get him out and disgrace him. I know my brother, he hates to see anyone hurt, his is kind and generous. He wants to make a difference. Do you really think someone who was a offender could go without offending for 11 years, it not a successfully treatable condition.

  26. Rev fatsax

    Heidi, all due respect, i dont know kurt as well as you, but would you trust a convicted pedophile with your daughter because his sister said he was a great guy? This info and his conviction was brought up to the chair of the party, and he did not respond to any requests until it was public knowledge…if there was a framing of kurt, why is there no book written by him to that point? He moved from city to city, registered as a sex offender, changed his name and is hiding now. Im just saying, even if somehow his admitted sex with a thirteen year old was a case of mistaken “you look 18″, it is still a crime, and the lp should not have a convicted sex ffender on the excomm, and sure as hell we shouldnt give him cover at a charity for children…it eexposes the lp to a lot of liability.

  27. Rev fatsax

    @42
    “Do you really think someone who was a offender could go without offending for 11 years, it not a successfully treatable condition.”. No, and that is why we are being careful not to open the party up to charges of negligence.

  28. paulie

    if somebody were to bring suit or file a criminal complaint against the LPNV, IPR, or individuals posting on this thread

    …it would get laughed out of court.

  29. Heidi Walker

    I am not saying trust him he is a great guy. Just don’t judge him without thorough investigation.
    I would not trust anyone with my daughter, family or not if any harm was to become her. I am just stating another thing to consider.

  30. Heidi Walker

    Your statements of him going town to town,etc. Isn’t correct, he has a established home in NV it is not hiding if you have family and business obligations. Slow down the mob mentality and maybe somebody can speak reason!

  31. Revfatsax

    I just want a more objective and thorough investigation by our party leaders, but we got stonewalled. And to date, not ONE member of the excom is on the record, just their mouthpiece who is not elected. Are we out of line for wanting some kind of answer?

  32. Sam Kress

    I think the reply is supposed to speak for the excom. That was my understanding. I can see why you don’t think they did an objective and thorough investigation. I’m not saying they did or did not, because I don’t know.

  33. Revfatsax

    When contacted for confirmation the excom resorted to “talk to my lawyer” instead of confirming that statement was official, so until a member of the excom posts, I will treat this as unanswered.

  34. Steve M

    Jill, Sam unlike the pair of you have not resorted to calling names or making innuendos. I have not jumped to conclusions based upon shoddy evidence and the misuse of a public registry. In no way have I harassed anyone on this thread.

    I will state… that the behavior I have seen recently is pretty much convincing me that the at a personal level there is little difference between the people who participate in internal libertarian politics and those who participate in internal democratic and republican politics. This leads me to wonder if a government run by libertarians would really be much different then one run by current duopoly.

  35. Sam Kress

    I thought you were done? Well here we go again…

    “Jill, Sam unlike the pair of you have not resorted to calling names or making innuendos.”

    What names? What innuendos?

  36. Sam Kress

    ” I have not jumped to conclusions based upon shoddy evidence”

    Neither have I. What makes you think I did?

    “and the misuse of a public registry.”

    Pointing out public information is not misuse.

    “In no way have I harassed anyone on this thread.”

    You’ve claimed that discussing the past conviction, and whether it means that it is inappropriate for Mr. Backrob to be in state party leadership, is in itself harassment.

    That is total bullshit, and completely laughable.

  37. Steve M

    The legal definition of harassment, according to Black’s Law Dictionary, is:

    “A course of conduct directed at a specific person that causes substantial emotional distress in such person and serves no legitimate purpose” or “Words, gestures, and actions which tend to annoy, alarm and abuse (verbally) another person.”

  38. paulie

    Sounds pretty subjective. But if we take the “substantial” part seriously, I don’t see how it even remotely applies to anything being said here. As for “no legitimate purpose,” how did you come to that conclusion?

  39. Steve M

    I haven’t reached a conclusion. I also seem to have made a grievous mistake that this web site, this blog was intended for discussion and not personal attacks.

  40. paulie

    You are the one insisting anyone has reached a conclusion. I haven’t seen anyone say they have.

    And yes, this site is intended for discussion. Sometimes, it devolves to personal attacks, but that’s not the intent. We are not interested in heavily policing the comments, and as for myself, all I can say is that I try to be civil, not that I always succeed. It actually goes somewhat against my nature, so it is not an easy thing.

    As for the article, I don’t think it is a personal attack. It is a legitimate issue, and a rebuttal article has also been posted.

  41. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    Heidi, the pedophile we had amongst us in a similar situation in the California LP has not re-offended (to anyone’s knowledge) for over 20 years. The situation was dealt with, leaders of the party know, and it is no longer a big deal. The man in question is allowed to continue his activism and no one seems to worry about it any more. If someone started coming around with young children, there would simply be a few extra sets of eyes to watch that child during Libertarian events. I’m not sure that anyone is asking for a whole lot more here than just some kind of explanation/accountability.

  42. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    No, Steve, the article isn’t a personal attack on Kurt, nor have you provided the names we’ve been calling people.

    I did refer to your stupidness last night, Steve. I probably shouldn’t have, and I apologize for that. I don’t usually say things like that. but that really is an example of how little merit I think your contribution to this topic has.

  43. paulie

    Excuse me? this article isn’t a personal attack upon Kurt Brackob?

    No, it’s not.

    It’s a news article reposting:

    A) News articles that have already been posted elsewhere,

    and

    B) Correspondence between the Nevada LP leadership and those seeking to replace it about how the Nevada LP is handling it, which is legitimate news for IPR.

    Nothing in this completely legitimate and appropriate news reporting states Jill’s opinion or IPR’s opinion of the facts of the case or even what if anything LP of Nevada should do about it. Nor are we commenting on whether the paid news organizations are correct in their reporting on the facts of the case. They do this full time for a living, we don’t. The best we can do is report that they reported something. The truth or falsehood of that can be explored in comments and followup articles.

    We are reporting facts, plain and simple. All of these facts are public and available elsewhere. Opinions are reserved for the comments.

    Your contention that any reporting at all on this controversy is a “personal attack” or “harassment” is ludicrous and doesn’t pass the laugh test.

    If you seriously mean to imply that convicted pedophiles are automatically entitled to positions of party leadership, and that to even raise questions about it constitutes personal attacks or harassment, good luck with that one….that dog ain’t gonna hunt.

    You are hereby excused.

  44. Steve M

    In the case of the misuse of the Nevada Sex offender Registration information, the legitimate purposes are stated to be…

    “A person is authorized to use this information only to protect him/herself or a child who may be at risk. The release of this information to the public is meant to assure public protection, not to punish the offender.”

    Using this information, to kick someone out of some position, that isn’t about “to protect him/herself or a child who may be at risk” would be not be a legitimate purpose.

  45. Steve M

    Puli (e),

    “If you seriously mean to imply that convicted pedophiles are automatically entitled to positions of party leadership, and that to even raise questions about it constitutes personal attacks or harassment, good luck with that one….that dog ain’t gonna hunt.”

    Where did I make that argument? Putting your twisted words into the mouths of others is offensive.

    “all I can say is that I try to be civil, not that I always succeed.”

    well you just failed!

  46. paulie

    Using this information, to kick someone out of some position, that isn’t about “to protect him/herself or a child who may be at risk”

    It would be about protecting the reputation of the Nevada LP and, with things like the toy drive, potentially protecting children as well. It’s not punishing the offender – there is no entitlement to be Treasurer of a state party organization.

  47. Steve M

    Maybe when you are going to publish a story which is a personal attack you should report it as a personal attack not pretend it isn’t.

  48. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    Steve, it’s clear that you simply enjoy taking a position to argue with people. Your arguments to Sam and I refer do indeed infer what Paulie is saying. I don’t know if it’s as pretty a day in Northern CA, where I seem to recall you’re from, as it is in Southern CA, but maybe now would be a good time to walk the dog or mow the lawn, because you’re simply not communicating well with us. Take a break, come back with a fresh view. and maybe you’ll understand what we’re saying.

  49. paulie

    Steve M –

    You are crossing over into troll territory very rapidly.

    For starters, it’s not difficult to spell my name. If Paulie is too complicated for you, try Paul. That’s four letters – you should be able to manage that one.

    Where did I make that argument?

    As far as I can tell that’s what your whole argument has been. Otherwise, I have no idea what you are trying to say.

    well you just failed!

    I don’t think so. But you have clearly failed to make any sense whatsoever.

  50. paulie

    Maybe when you are going to publish a story which is a personal attack you should report it as a personal attack not pretend it isn’t.

    Maybe if that ever happens, we’ll let you know, but since that is clearly not the case here, there’s nothing to pretend about.

  51. paulie

    Steve, it’s clear that you simply enjoy taking a position to argue with people

    Otherwise known as trolling. It’s pretty obvious.

  52. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    Steve, we’ve also politely asked you to stop several times. YOU are definitely in the category of harrassing us.

  53. Steve M

    protecting the reputation of the Nevada LP is not a legitimate use of the that source of information.

    then use it internally to keep him out of the toy drive. But that wasn’t the point of this article was it?

    “It’s not punishing the offender – there is no entitlement to be Treasurer of a state party organization.”

    It certainly is about removing someone from a position, punishment. And no, no one is entitled to any position. But they should be removed for cause which would effect their responsibilities.

    If someone had embezzled money then I would be worried about their trust as a treasurer. Similarly if a convicted pedophile were to be in charge of the day care center.

    But none of this is why I joined this discussion. I joined because of that caution that Nevada has up about its registry. Who the LNV treasurer is, I could care less.

  54. Sam Kress

    “protecting the reputation of the Nevada LP is not a legitimate use of the that source of information.”

    Bullshit. You better believe the media and the other competing parties would use it against the LP.

    “But that wasn’t the point of this article was it?”

    The point of the article was to report facts. Which is exactly what it did.

    “It certainly is about removing someone from a position, punishment. And no, no one is entitled to any position. But they should be removed for cause which would effect their responsibilities.”

    That position includes upholding the reputation of the state LP. So, yes, it would be for cause, not as punishment.

    “I joined because of that caution that Nevada has up about its registry. ”

    OK, so now move on. You are a pest and a nuisance at this point. Your caution was off the wall nuts and you keep repeating it as if anyone besides you thinks it even remotely applies to this. No one does.

  55. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    What is YOUR agenda, Steve? You honestly care so much about Sam and I that you to keep us out of trouble, which is what I recall you told us last night?

  56. Steve M

    I want good quality ethical leadership in the Libertarian party.

    You don’t get this by engaging in smear campaigns. They tend to make people not to want to participate rather then participate.

    The posting of the Nevada warning last night was to urge caution on the use of information from that web site. It’s use has stipulations and possible consequences for its misuse. I would rather no one ran afoul of it.

  57. LibertarianGirl

    he was/is a spy/spook , might be good advice…..then again he fuckin initiated force upon us with children and stakes in LPN by not disclosing such a past. you know who would find this info very interesting, joe silvestris ex-wife whowants to move to az with his kids. I aint gonna tell her but goddamn doesnt he have any sense anymore

  58. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    Well, another reason Steve M doesn’t need to worry about me. I have no interest in being a leader in the LP state or national parties ever.

  59. paulie

    I want good quality ethical leadership in the Libertarian party.

    Yet you are Johnny on the spot to defend Stevens and now Silvestri.

    You don’t get this by engaging in smear campaigns.

    There’s no smear campaign here, only facts.

  60. Steve M

    Pulie, You don’t know the difference between objecting to the tactics of mudslinging and supporting a particular officer.

    @81 Jill asked me a question and I answered and you object to my answer.

    Time to rename this rag the “Independent Political Examiner”

  61. David Colborne

    The LPN is a public organization that cannot guarantee whether it’s working around children or not. I’ve seen people kicked out of theater troupes for this sort of thing, much less a state-level political organization.

    Besides, Treasurer of the LPN is an unpaid, volunteer position. There are no damages incurred by giving Kurt some spare time.

  62. Steve M

    And you have a very strange definition of News in which you leave out objectivity and engage in editorializing.

    Let me ask you all this…. before this was published did any of the IPR writers attempt to contact Kurt Brackob for his side of the story?

  63. Jill pyeatt

    Steve, i didn’t “object” to your answer. I answered your answer. That’s what regular people call “conversation”. I give up with you.

  64. Jill pyeatt

    But seriously, you had an opportunity for honest discourse on this forum, Steve. I will no longer talk to you.

  65. Steve M

    http://www.spj.org/ethicscode.asp

    Society of Professional Journalists Code of Ethics

    Journalists should:

    — Test the accuracy of information from all sources and exercise care to avoid inadvertent error. Deliberate distortion is never permissible.
    — Diligently seek out subjects of news stories to give them the opportunity to respond to allegations of wrongdoing.
    — Identify sources whenever feasible. The public is entitled to as much information as possible on sources’ reliability.
    — Always question sources’ motives before promising anonymity. Clarify conditions attached to any promise made in exchange for information. Keep promises.
    — Make certain that headlines, news teases and promotional material, photos, video, audio, graphics, sound bites and quotations do not misrepresent. They should not oversimplify or highlight incidents out of context.
    — Never distort the content of news photos or video. Image enhancement for technical clarity is always permissible. Label montages and photo illustrations.
    — Avoid misleading re-enactments or staged news events. If re-enactment is necessary to tell a story, label it.
    — Avoid undercover or other surreptitious methods of gathering information except when traditional open methods will not yield information vital to the public. Use of such methods should be explained as part of the story
    — Never plagiarize.
    — Tell the story of the diversity and magnitude of the human experience boldly, even when it is unpopular to do so.
    — Examine their own cultural values and avoid imposing those values on others.
    — Avoid stereotyping by race, gender, age, religion, ethnicity, geography, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance or social status.
    — Support the open exchange of views, even views they find repugnant.
    — Give voice to the voiceless; official and unofficial sources of information can be equally valid.
    — Distinguish between advocacy and news reporting. Analysis and commentary should be labeled and not misrepresent fact or context.
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  66. Jill pyeatt

    It’s an exceptionally pretty day in Monrovia. I can’t believe I’ve spent so much of this gorgeous day indoors.

  67. paulie

    And you have a very strange definition of News in which you leave out objectivity and engage in editorializing.

    False. There are no editorial statements in this story.

    The story is

    1) Other news sources reported x

    2) Jason Smith sent letter y to Silvestri et al.

    Both parts are objectively correct.

    Zero editorial content.


    Let me ask you all this…. before this was published did any of the IPR writers attempt to contact Kurt Brackob for his side of the story?

    Nope. It’s a blog. We publish what we can receive, in our spare time.

    We did publish the other side of the story as a separate article.

  68. paulie

    Society of Professional Journalists Code of Ethics

    Professional journalists are people who get paid for their work and make a living at it. We are not professional journalists. We have other professions. This is a hobby.

    We do seek out other points of view, which is why we have a comment section and why we published the LPN Exec Comm reply.

    If Mr. Backrob wants to contact *us,* he’s welcome to submit something. We do not have time to work on stories as if we were professional journalists.

    This is a blog, plain and simple.

    And it’s not unethical to report that other news organizations reported something; that is just a fact. We are making no statement about whether they got the story right.

    Nor are we saying anything about the accuracy of Jason Smith’s letter; only that he sent it.

  69. Catholic Trotskyist

    Ban Steve M; bring back Robert Milnes! I know Zaulie/Waulie/Paaauauaualliieeeeeeeeeee will give this fair consideration.

  70. Jason smith

    I tried to get answers Steve, we were told to talk to Kurt’s lawyer, the excom is stonewalling. Goldbrickers are worse than Larry sellers.

  71. paulie

    Ban Steve M; bring back Robert Milnes! I know Zaulie/Waulie/Paaauauaualliieeeeeeeeeee will give this fair consideration.

    It’s been considered and rejected. Milnes trolled IPR for years before he got the boot. Steve M is trolling hard, but he hasn’t been doing it long enough to get a time out corner, which comes a long time before someone who can’t stay in one is shown the door. He’s also not pushing any subject to turn all discussions toward. So, as unpleasant as he is being, he stays.

  72. Steve M

    Its like shooting someone in the back.

    You didn’t ask for comment from the Person this story is about. You didn’t question the motives of the person who submitted the links.

    But really common decency, says you shouldn’t blindside some without making any effort to let them know… It would have been so much better if you could have held off publishing this story until Mr Backrob had been given a chance to respond.

    This story with the LNV response included would have been so much more fair and even handed.

    Can you try to be more even handed in the future?

  73. Steve M

    Jason, that’s fair did they give Kurt’s lawyer contact info and did you try to contact them? And having asked for comment and it being refused it is also fair to report that. It shows the effort was made.

  74. paulie

    Its like shooting someone in the back.

    You didn’t ask for comment from the Person this story is about.

    Not our job. This is a blog. If someone wants to submit a different side of the story, we publish that too.

    But really common decency, says you shouldn’t blindside some without making any effort to let them know… It would have been so much better if you could have held off publishing this story until Mr Backrob had been given a chance to respond.

    Jason and Brett gave them weeks to respond.

    response included would have been so much more fair and even handed.

    It was published, as a separate story. So we are fair and even handed.

    Can you try to be more even handed in the future?

    We were even handed this time, and will be just as even handed in the future.

    The advantage blogs have is instantaneousness and the ability to re-edit.

    We have no plans to give up those advantages to give you a free reporting services that lives up to standards for people who do this for a living.

    If you want to hire me to do this full time, I’ll consider it.

    Until then, you’re getting more than what you paid for.

    You can be happy about that, keep bitching, or leave. But you don’t call shots around here.

  75. Revfatsax

    Steve, Kurt, joe and kris have known for more than two weeks that we had info and needed the excom to act. They did nothing, we asked multiple times for a response…nothing. I wrote the excom and demanded an answer, then someone on the email list leaked it to ipr. We have done everything to help protect the lp, but protecting Kurt is more important than answering questions from unworthy libertarians who don’t kiss joes ring. You can complain all you want, but show me one email, post or attempt by ANYONE on the excom to answer my questions. Until you can do that, I am done with your attempts to deflect attention from who is at fault. All info points to Kurt being a sex offender, and the excom all know about it and are complicit in protecting him…unless one of them leaked the story to ipr…which would at least make me think they have a shred of dignity and self respect.

  76. paulie

    You can complain all you want, but show me one email, post or attempt by ANYONE on the excom to answer my questions. Until you can do that, I am done with your attempts to deflect attention

    Exactly.

  77. Steve M

    Revfatsax…. that doesn’t excuse IPR from making there own attempt. In fact, the LNV responded the same day that this article was published. It sure looks like it had been written ahead of time.

    In fact we don’t know if Kurt is or isn’t a sex offender. We know he was convicted of being one in Romania in the 2003. But it wasn’t a time period where Romania was not renowned for far and impartial justice. Kind of like reporting here on IPR.

  78. David Colborne

    In fact we don’t know if Kurt is or isn’t a sex offender.

    Incorrect. We don’t know, and may never know, if he is a pedophile . However, his legal status as a convicted sexual offender is not in question and is recognized by the State of Nevada.

    For me, that’s more than enough to question the current leadership of the LP Nevada’s judgment in appointing him to an official, public-facing position.

  79. Steve M

    I wonder if the anonymous source is ever going to tell us who they are and if they have a stake in this game?

  80. paulie

    not renowned for far and impartial justice. Kind of like reporting here on IPR.

    Yeah, keep bitching about a free service you contribute absolutely nothing to.

    Our reporting is just fine, despite all your incessant whining.

    BTW David Colborne, from everything I’ve seen, is one of the most fair and level headed people I have ever encountered. And from what I’ve seen from you, you’re hardly one to sit in judgment on him.

  81. paulie

    I wonder if the anonymous source is ever going to tell us who they are and if they have a stake in this game?

    I wonder if you ever plan to stop your clumsy attempts at deflection?

  82. Steve M

    109 but you do agree that since David Colborne is running for party office in Nevada that it is in David Colborne’s interest to discredit the current LP Nevada Officers?

  83. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    …And the amazing thing is that, while I hid my Magical Easter Eggs in my Enchanted Backyard, the troll I found was a TALKING troll!

  84. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    And all the creatures who were playing nice scattered because the troll didn’t know how to play nice with the others.

  85. Steve M

    Just got back from a fantastic Italian restaurant…. with my wife…. So I am not going to be lonely tonight. How about yourself?

  86. paulie

    as you start to meet the Professional Journalists Code of Ethics.

    As soon as you pay me a minimum of $700 a week in today’s dollars on a reliable schedule.

  87. paulie

    but you do agree that since David Colborne is running for party office in Nevada that it is in David Colborne’s interest to discredit the current LP Nevada Officers?

    No, I don’t agree.

    A, they don’t need to be discredited any further and B, I don’t believe for a moment he would stoop to that.

  88. Filippo Di Noto

    Steve M is not trolling. I’m an expert on trolling and this does not qualify. To be a proper troll one must have no real interest in the topic being discussed. Steve seems to believe pretty strongly in what he is saying.

  89. paulie

    Let me know when you are ready to start making payments. Until then I’ll be happy to adhere to the amateur blogger code of ethics.

  90. Steve M

    see that is the catch you don’t get to be a professional until you behave as a professional…. it isn’t the other way around. And that’s like $36.4K a year… I am glad I have my engineering degrees…. they pay so much better.

  91. paulie

    To be a proper troll one must have no real interest in the topic being discussed.

    I don’t think he does.

    Steve seems to believe pretty strongly in what he is saying.

    Doesn’t seem that way to me.

  92. Filippo Di Noto

    @199

    It is pretty obvious David C. is making false claims about Kurt being on the NV Sex Offender registry currently. He is implying that Kurt is on the list but his case is sealed or some such nonsense.

  93. paulie

    @122 Well then I’ll stick with being an amateur. I can live with that. And you’ll have to live with what you get or go somewhere else.

  94. paulie

    It is pretty obvious David C. is making false claims about Kurt being on the NV Sex Offender registry currently. He is implying that Kurt is on the list but his case is sealed or some such nonsense.

    Doesn’t seem like nonsense to me. His analysis made perfect sense.

  95. Steve M

    @119 you don’t believe David would stoop to mudslinging politics even though he is running for an office and it is too his advantage to discredit the current office holders but you do think that Kurt is a pedophile because he was convicted and Imprisoned by what a Country that has a long history of using its abusive and arbitrary criminal system to crackdown on political dissent.

    I believe your judgment is suspect.

  96. Filippo Di Noto

    @126
    “Sealed” implies that the records still exist. There are no records whatsoever. And nothing on the official NV website says anything whatsoever about the records being sealed.

  97. Steve M

    Filippo, this IPR there is a whole different standard to what a troll is here… here if you stand up to the contributors and take an apposing view you are a troll.

  98. paulie

    So what is your explanation for the two different notices as David points out?

    And nothing on the official NV website says anything whatsoever about the records being sealed.

    That’s the point of them being sealed. Can you point me to a counter-example of someone whose records actually are verifiably sealed?

  99. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    Steve is quite contrary on other threads, also. He just likes to argue.

    That’s a classic troll.

  100. Filippo Di Noto

    @131
    No I cannot, I’m not a legal expert on sex offenses.

    May I ask though, under what circumstances would someones record be sealed?

  101. paulie

    but you do think that Kurt is a pedophile

    What makes you think I think that? I’m open minded to the possibility he may have been wrongly convicted.

    Country that has a long history of using its abusive and arbitrary criminal system to crackdown on political dissent.

    It’s also a country that a lot of foreigners visit to have sex with kids. So I’m not going to jump to the automatic conclusion that the charges were false, either. Also, political dissent? The articles seem to say that Kurt was a crony of the intelligence service chief and was let out early due to that person’s intervention. So I am not drawing conclusions that he was on the side of political dissent, nor that he wasn’t.

  102. paulie

    you don’t believe David would stoop to mudslinging politics even though he is running for an office and it is too his advantage to discredit the current office holders

    No, it is not. I already answered that nonsense earlier.

    I believe your judgment is suspect.

    Backatcha.

  103. Filippo Di Noto

    @135
    Considering he works in banking, and not just a teller, he is probably just as or more qualified at being a treasurer than any other LP treasure in the country.

  104. Steve M

    KL,

    but of course… there is going to be a convention in April and the LPN will have a chance to replace any of the officers they want to….. That is the obvious point of this who issue. David is doing the old political game of throw lots of mud and hope enough of it sticks so that he and his side win.

    I sure hope LPN has NOA as an option.

  105. paulie

    @141 It couldn’t be because he cares about the LPN and doing the right thing, could it? Holding volunteer office in a tiny state party is that important? And you know that is his motivation…based on what?

  106. Filippo Di Noto

    @140
    You didn’t notice from any of the articles you have read that Kurt was a political adviser for many years? He was so good in fact the opposition had him jailed.

  107. Steve M

    From comment #51 of http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2013/03/libertarian-party-of-nevada-responds-to-accusations-of-treasurer-kurt-brackob-being-a-sex-offender

    Where David posted…

    “I posted an explanation regarding under what circumstances Kurt’s registry record might be sealed, thus explaining why the official statement from the LPNV starts off with a blatant lie; I also posted it here, but it would appear the spam filter ate it (not surprising since I copied & pasted).

    Now, on to the actual substance of the article…

    It’s possible they’re right. I don’t know enough about Romanian journalism or Romanian jurisprudence to have an intelligent opinion one way or another. I also don’t know Kurt at all – he might be an incredibly nice, diligent, decent guy. No idea one way or another. What I do know is that, yet again, Joe Silvestri, when faced with a reasonable inquiry (“Hey, why is our Treasurer showing up as a sexual predator on Google?”) responded with silence. Then more silence. Then still more silence, until one of the inquiries became public. Then, miraculously, an “investigation” appears that clears up his trusted lieutenant’s name.

    So, in short, because our Chair is unwilling to communicate with his fellow members, his Treasurer’s name was (possibly needlessly, who knows?) dragged through the mud and the Libertarian Party of Nevada suffers yet another black eye. This isn’t leadership. This is ridiculous! His refusal to communicate is harming friend and foe alike.

    It’s time for a change.”

    David knows full well that he is tossing Kurt under the bus for political gain.

    But tell you what… David could prove me wrong by not running for an LPN officer seat.

  108. paulie

    Yes, I noticed he was involved in politics. I’m not sure whether that leads to the conclusion that the opposition had him jailed; it could also mean that his friends got him out early.

    But what I meant @140 is that whole controversy part that Chris alluded to.

    I’m pretty sure Tim Hagan is capable of keeping the books too, and considering that he is on the LNC he is also capable of being a board member.

  109. Filippo Di Noto

    @142
    The first time I hung out with Kurt, we met up to have lunch. We talked about why we were involved the LP.

    He told me he got involved because he has seen first hand the evils that government is capable of.

    This was before I knew of his past history. When I did learn about what had happened to him. I reflected on that moment when we first had lunch together.

  110. paulie

    @144 The quote does not support your conclusions, and there is no reason why he shouldn’t run to help give his state party an opportunity to elect better leadership. As usual, you make no sense.

  111. Smart Alex

    Why are you guys putting up with Steve? He isn’t adding anything. When did Jill say she never calls anyone names? He just says what he feels like saying. Fillipo talks about things without crszy assimptions.

  112. paulie

    I never said any of the articles were or weren’t facts, and most of the articles cited in the article above are not Romanian. All along I have acknowledged the possibility that there may have been a miscarriage of justice. I just don’t take that as an automatic assumption.

  113. paulie

    Why are you guys putting up with Steve?

    As opposed to what, banning him? I don’t think he rises to that level of troll.

    Ignore him? I probably should. It’s a disease, responditis.

  114. Steve M

    What I don’t get Paulie is that if you think there could have been a miscarriage of justice why you would support the continued persecution?

    I know its been argued because if we don’t that the other parties will. That’s where this clash with the concept of the Party of Principle and practical application meet. Do we toss out principle in favor of pragmatism? Or do we stand our ground and stay on principle?

  115. Steve M

    @149 Google Translate Does this with the articles text….

    What does being a part of the system?
    by Narcis Sireteanu
    (Read other articles by the same author)

    Has become established idea that to succeed you must impose in Romania today “a part of the system.” The formula is pretty vague, so today we’ll try to see about that divisions of this system, so often invoked. Which are therefore those miraculous groups that have springs designed to propel you up the ladder as the country’s social and professional?

    If you own some influential relatives, still in diapers can consider that a part of the system. That came Daciana, daughter Sarbu and current bedding companion of plagiarist chief minister in 24 years, it came to where he Basescu on European money, so reach their grandchildren, wives, cousins ??and brothersinlaw.

    The system can get and if you’re a woman – more or less handsome – and you know to whom you must. A lot of women in public life and femeiu?ti science owes its rise who should give it, when you need. They have ultra chilo?el radar, which indicates the most advantageous tool for landing.

    You may find that part of the system and you were enrolled those services specializing in telephone tapping. Enough mediocre and even semiidio?i of Romania enjoys protection services different orientations, which close their eyes to small and large thefts. But when intelligence is revenge and fights usually start all of the money, not from principle, allow the blood. Kurt Treptow – American historian who teaches at the “Al.I. Cuza “- and the same figure on the Member services from us and from them, paid with such long prison punishment.

    Masonry must not be forgotten with her trophy showcase called club “Rotary”. Masonry, under the guise of lofty principles, actually hiding some very effective interest groups. Masons say to each other “brother” and all that follows. What happens when a defendant does Mason get into the hands of a judge, who is his “brother” in Masonry? Not hard to imagine.

    But ugly quarrels between brothers involved. Adrian Nastase and Vantu can testify.

  116. Filippo Di Noto

    @145
    I have nothing bad to say about Tim Hagan.

    His silence on this matter is testimony to the quality of his character.

  117. LibertarianGirl

    u got that right:) hes one of the best men ive ever known. when the passion and anger started to cloud my judgement i made a decision , years ago , to , when in doubt , do what tim does. his motives are unquestionable,

    i really wish, after 18 years working with joe and the lpn , that joe hadnt thru him under the bus.

    ask him about tim , hell tell you how tim abandoned the party with a critical job undone and how it almost fucked us….

    after 18 years, tim hagan was not picked to be a delegate to nat con. why?? because he wouldnt have gotten with the plan and voted the way the “group” decided….people around months were given delegate spots

    and , after winning the LNC treasurer position , silvestri hadnt even the class to congratulate him.

    disgraceful

  118. Chuck Moulton

    Filippo Di Noto wrote (155):

    I have nothing bad to say about Tim Hagan.

    LibertarianGirl wrote (@156):

    u got that right:) hes one of the best men ive ever known. [...] his motives are unquestionable

    LibertarianGirl wrote (@157):

    never , EVER , has tim left a job undone

    I third that: Tim Hagan is a great activist! I’m not a Nevada resident, but as an outside observer I think the LP of Nevada would be very lucky to have Tim involved in the state party again.

    If it doesn’t work out, Virginia is always looking for more Libertarians.

  119. Revfatsax

    Still no answer from the excom. Are irv and kris just doing the “we are following orders” routine? Fil, stop the spinning, you are not gonna convince anyone that Kurt isn’t on the registry, or that Romania and the EU court are corrupt and witch hunting. The handling f this by the excom has been improper. If joe is out of communication for two weeks, why isn’t kris assuming the control in this sensitive case…is that not the job of a vice chair?

  120. Filippo Di Noto

    As Technical Director of the Libertarian Party of Nevada I am an official representative of the Executive Committee. I am fully authorized to speak on their behalf. Our official response came within 24 hours of these accusations.

    The response which was posted here on this site was approved by the committee. This is the official response:

    http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2013/03/libertarian-party-of-nevada-responds-to-accusations-of-treasurer-kurt-brackob-being-a-sex-offender

  121. Rev fatsax

    No offense fil, but nobody elected you, you are acting as their mouthpiece when their leader is in communicato. You are baghdad bob, and the EU just rolled a tank past your argument. There has not been one word from any excom member, and they are responsible to answer these questions. If they wanna hide from their responsibilities, fine…but they will be held accountable…and you better not start that crap about a witchhunt or politically motivated…because they have had ample time to either address the questions that are unanswerable to the logical person, ot reverse couese and apologize for their innaction.

  122. paulie

    Tim Hagan is a great activist! I’m not a Nevada resident, but as an outside observer I think the LP of Nevada would be very lucky to have Tim involved in the state party again.

    +1

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