26 responses so far ↓

• 1 NewFederalist // Feb 23, 2013 at 10:47 am

  Why can this guy post but not Bob Milnes?

• 2 Jango // Feb 24, 2013 at 2:03 pm

  LOL, his “committee.” You mean Ron Nielson?

  Will Gary Johnson, once again, ignore all questions about where the campaign cash went at this latest squeezing of the udders?

• 3 Zapper // Feb 24, 2013 at 6:44 pm

  Attn Gary Johnson:

  Your financial secrecy is now becoming an embarrassment to the LP and yourself.

  It’s time to come clean and open your campaign books – that is, those that are hidden by the cloak of the Nielson trick.

  We suspect that this is just a case of massive looting by your campaign manager himself. So, let’s see if your campaign really eneded in debt or if its just a hoped-for huge payday intended for your campaign manager.

• 4 Jango // Feb 24, 2013 at 8:53 pm

  The real question: was Gary Johnson actually PAID to be a candidate? That is, did Ron Nielson “hire” Gary Johnson to be an advisor on the Gary Johnson campaign?

  Everyone says Gary is “rich” so why would he need the small time funds of a third party candidate?

  According to a FOX Business report from last year on presidential candidate net worths, Gary has a net worth of between $3-$10 million. That’s a big gap. If it’s the low end of that – $3 million – and 1/2 of that worth is tied-up in his home, a $300,000 consulting “fee” to “advise” himself – since he has no other job or obvious source of income – would be nothing he’d likely scoff at.

• 5 Jango // Feb 24, 2013 at 8:55 pm

  “Gary Johnson – Professional Libertarian”

• 6 George Phillies // Feb 24, 2013 at 8:55 pm

  @5 A million and a half dollar home, not in a truly expensive area, seems a bit unreasonable.

• 7 Jango // Feb 24, 2013 at 11:40 pm

  @7 – half of $3 million is $1.5 million

  Also, Johnson’s estate in Taos is, according to Outside, 7500 square feet on 23 acres sitting against waterfront property (the Hondo River) and he had it custom built to his specifications. [http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/politics/Failure-to-Launch.html?page=all]

• 8 Jango // Feb 24, 2013 at 11:42 pm

  Maybe Gary needs to rename the “Our America Initiative” to the “My New Jet Ski Dock Initiative.”

• 9 Jango // Feb 24, 2013 at 11:47 pm

  Looks like I’m right, according to the Taos assessor, Gary’s house is just over $1.3 million in value:

  http://lookup.taoscounty.org/assessor.aspx?source=assessor&page=optOwnerName&searchterm=Johnson%2c+Gary&select=1073&selectyr=1073

  Looking forward to the next “but, but …” from the Johnson & Nielson apologists.

• 10 George Phillies // Feb 24, 2013 at 11:53 pm

  At 23 acres and river front, 1.5 million sounds quite low, but as I said this is not exactly Santa Barbara with high prices.

• 11 Jango // Feb 25, 2013 at 12:01 am

  So what we have here is:

  (1) 60 year old man who has not held a job in 10 years and has no obvious or claimed source of income,
  (2) based on estate value, may have as little as $1.5 million in liquidity plus investments to sustain him for the next 30 years,
  (3) has to pay property taxes and upkeep on a 7500 square foot home – regularly takes month-long holidays to exotic, international destinations
  (4) has extremely sketchy looking campaign finances and has refused to answer questions about them when asked

  seems legit – I’d feel safe writing this guy a $100 check … or not!

• 12 George Phillies // Feb 25, 2013 at 12:18 am

  @12 Let me suggest that your analysis points at net worth being toward the high end of that range.

  By the way, when I had to do one of these, which I admit was six years ago so the rules may have changed, the value of your house was specifically excluded from your asset list. Please check if that has changed, because if not it leads to you having underestimated his net worth considerably.

• 13 Jango // Feb 25, 2013 at 12:29 am

  ‘K, isn’t rocket science. It’s not even algebra. It’s basic arithmetic.

  Source: net worth as little as $3 million –
  “Johnson’s biggest asset is his home in Taos, N.M.”
  http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2011/10/04/net-worth-gop-presidential-candidates/

  Source: Johnson’s home is worth $1.32 million – http://lookup.taoscounty.org/assessor.aspx?source=assessor&page=optOwnerName&searchterm=Johnson%2c+Gary&select=1073&selectyr=1073

  That means, like I said, Johnson may have as little as $1.5 million he’s using to fund a fairly extravagant lifestyle.

  Johnson NEEDS this job of being a professional candidate/advocate. I’m just curious how much NSON is paying him.

• 14 paulie // Mar 1, 2013 at 4:00 pm

  Why can this guy post but not Bob Milnes?

  More internet savvy. Fixed.

• 15 George Phillies // Mar 1, 2013 at 4:06 pm

  @13 The Fox article appears to be referencing the FEC-filing document. The FEC-filing document — I have done several — excludes your house as an asset. Thus, Johnson’s assets are a tad bit larger than you are suggesting. You might turn it around, namely estimate expenses like those trips, and multiply by as a guess 20 to infer assets.

  Having said that, I do not disagree with your sentiments, but this is an area where precision is desirable.

• 16 paulie // Mar 1, 2013 at 4:25 pm

  I wonder what Jango’s agenda is? I haven’t checked as to whether I know who it is.

• 17 Andy // Mar 1, 2013 at 4:28 pm

  “Jango // Feb 25, 2013 at 12:29 am

  ‘K, isn’t rocket science. It’s not even algebra. It’s basic arithmetic.

  Source: net worth as little as $3 million –
  ‘Johnson’s biggest asset is his home in Taos, N.M.’”

  I read that Gary Johnson is worth $10 million.

  And fyi, Virgil Goode is worth $4 million.

• 18 paulie // Mar 1, 2013 at 4:30 pm

  I read that Gary Johnson is worth $10 million.

  Where, and by what methodology did they get this number? His disclosure says between 3 and 10 million; you may just remember seeing the upper end of that range, or they may have assumed it.

• 19 Andy // Mar 1, 2013 at 4:31 pm

  I imagine that Gary Johnson gets a pension from having been Governor of New Mexico. Anyone know how much that is?

• 20 paulie // Mar 1, 2013 at 4:37 pm

  Good question. Let’s start with – where is the FEC disclosure that lists the 3-10 million range? I did not find it at FEC just now. All that was popping up was Johnson 2012 committee info, not his personal disclosure. I probably looked in the wrong place.

• 21 Andy // Mar 1, 2013 at 4:38 pm

  “paulie // Mar 1, 2013 at 4:30 pm

  ‘I read that Gary Johnson is worth $10 million.’

  Where, and by what methodology did they get this number? His disclosure says between 3 and 10 million; you may just remember seeing the upper end of that range, or they may have assumed it.”

  It was off some site that reports on campaign finance.

  FYI, Gary Johnson is apparently an investor in several hotels/motels, and I think some office buildings as well. He co-owns properties in Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona (I’m pretty sure Arizona is one of them).

• 22 paulie // Mar 1, 2013 at 4:39 pm

  OK…links?

• 23 Andy // Mar 1, 2013 at 4:40 pm

  Here’s a link that has a PDF of a financial disclosure statement from Gary Johnson. It might be easier to read if somebody prints it on a printer.

  http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/candlook.php?CID=n00033226

• 24 paulie // Mar 1, 2013 at 4:43 pm

  Doesn’t seem to be working right in this browser. I’ll try a different one.

• 25 Andy // Mar 1, 2013 at 4:48 pm

  “24 paulie // Mar 1, 2013 at 4:43 pm

  Doesn’t seem to be working right in this browser. I’ll try a different one.”

  The link works for me.

• 26 Andy // Mar 1, 2013 at 4:54 pm

  According to this link, the salary for the Governor of New Mexico is $110,000 per year. I believe this was as of 2010. I don’t know what it was when Gary Johnson was Governor.

  http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Governor_of_New_Mexico

  I also don’t know what kind of pension plan the Governor of New Mexico has.

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