From the Goode for President Facebook page:
The votes are still trickling in, and no write-ins have been counted yet, but Virgil Goode’s shoe-string campaign has accumulated over 110,000 votes nationwide. This despite voter intimidation against constitutionalists and unfair ballot access fights. This despite having to fight corporate interests and entrenched party-first mentality. Thank each and every one of you.
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1 Statement from the Virgil Goode Campaign | Conservative Heritage Times // Nov 7, 2012 at 10:41 pm
[...] Crossposted at IPR. [...]
2 PeterO // Nov 7, 2012 at 10:59 pm
If 110,000 is all the Constitution Party can get with its most credible candidate ever, in a year when the GOP nominee was suspect among conservatives, it’s hard to continue to view the CP as a “major minor party” on par with the LP and Greens.
3 Trent Hill // Nov 7, 2012 at 11:38 pm
Err, Red, this isnt from the official campaign.
4 RedPhillips // Nov 8, 2012 at 12:24 am
I originally wrote statement from Virgil Goode but that didn’t sound right because the statement is in third person. That’s why I added campaign.
5 Trent Hill // Nov 8, 2012 at 12:30 am
It isn’t from Goode, either. lol. Feel free to email or message me on Facebook and ill explain.
6 James // Nov 8, 2012 at 1:27 am
#2 I suspect Ballot Access really hurt them, given they were not able to get on the ballot in states like Kentucky, West Virginia, Kansas, Nebraska, or Arkansas, where I think he could have gotten quite a few additional votes. Not being able to gain access in Illinois or Pennsylvania also took their toll.
7 Trent Hill // Nov 8, 2012 at 1:41 am
They’ve never been on Illinois, I don’t think. But PA, CA, AK, KY, WV, KS, NB, AR–those all hurt.
8 James // Nov 8, 2012 at 1:50 am
#7 Could have sworn Baldwin managed to get on in ’08. Or rather it wasn’t challenged that time.
9 Trent Hill // Nov 8, 2012 at 2:48 am
You might be right. I can’t be bothered looking it up.
10 Zapper // Nov 8, 2012 at 4:06 am
@7 Tough for an American POTUS candidate to get on the ballot in NB – New Brunswick. Puerto Rico has voted to become a US State, but Canada hasn’t as of yet.
I think you mean NE – Nebraska.
11 Trent Hill // Nov 8, 2012 at 5:10 am
Whoops. Yep.
12 paulie // Nov 8, 2012 at 8:34 am
Yes, 2008 was not challenged and 2012 would have been the same except for Rob Sherman and Andy Finko, because apparently they thought that somehow Jill Stein would get more votes if Virgil Goode was not on the ballot.
13 Kleptocracy And You // Nov 8, 2012 at 1:59 pm
er need to watch that zapper, may go postal on us at anytime ! Keep your powder dry when around zapper !
I have to agree with #2, with Phillips’ age and health catching up to him doesn’t seem to be a figure to keep all these splinter groups together. No CA , TX or IL ballot access in the foreseeable future the CP is in a tailspin.
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Can someone please explain why we should believe he’s suddenly so darn electable now?: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/1/candidate-in-the-cross-hairs/
Congrats, they called it in Dec., 2011 but the DIMWITS in the R Party are CLUELESS…..
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14 Trent Hill // Nov 8, 2012 at 3:23 pm
CP has never reliably had IL or TX. They’ve made both ballots once, maybe twice. Only CA has really been lost. PA too.
15 RedPhillips // Nov 8, 2012 at 11:38 pm
The CP got TX in ’96 because someone (or ones) with a lot of money thought Buchanan would be the nominee and paid for ballot access.
16 Trent Hill // Nov 9, 2012 at 12:06 am
I will say this: I don’t think the CP will ever get anywhere by remaining off the ballot in half of the major-population ballots. This year they missed: Georgia, Massachusetts, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Illinois, Texas, Arizona, and California.
Being on in NY didn’t really make up for it, since it delivered only 6,000+ votes. Ohio, FL, CO, Virginia, Michigan, Tennessee–these are all great states to have, but they don’t mean much when you’ve missed out on all of the above. It’s so important for the CP to have a good ballot access plan for 2016 regardless of who the candidate is. I think Goode + better fundraising + better ballot access could be a recipe for a new record. Goode beat Baldwin (the record holder) in virtually every place where both were on the ballot.
115k (prior to write-ins) is a pretty sad performance for the 3rd largest third party.
17 NotGood@yahoo.com // Nov 9, 2012 at 1:00 am
“It’s so important for the CP to have a good ballot access plan for 2016 regardless of who the candidate is. I think Goode + better fundraising + better ballot access could be a recipe for a new record. Goode beat Baldwin (the record holder) in virtually every place where both were on the ballot.”
Goode is part of the problem and the Constitution Party should ditch him. Baldwin was a better candidate. Also, Baldwin had to contend with Ralph Nader being on the ballot in addition to Bob Barr and Cynthia McKinney. Goode just had Gary Johnson and Jill Stein.
The Constitution Party does need to get a lot more serious about ballot access and running more effective campaigns if they ever want to get anywhere.
18 Andy // Nov 9, 2012 at 1:03 am
“Trent Hill // Nov 8, 2012 at 1:41 am
They’ve never been on Illinois,”
Chuck Baldwin was on the ballot in Illinois. He got on by luck because nobody challenged his signatures. In Illinois, you can get on the ballot if nobody challenges your signatures even if you don’t have enough signatures, which Chuck Baldwin did not.
19 David // Nov 9, 2012 at 2:24 am
So Montana’s Libertarian candidate for Clerk of the Supreme Court got more votes then Goode?
20 paulie // Nov 9, 2012 at 3:17 pm
Yes
21 Trent Hill // Nov 9, 2012 at 4:18 pm
I know Andy, I corrected myself above and said they’ve never “reliably” been on there.
“Baldwin was a better candidate.”
No. Baldwin didnt campaign hardly at all. He made a few appearances in local areas. But he HATED flying or traveling. He also wasted a lot of money paying some “campaign staffers” who were brand new to the game and knew nothing about how to get votes or ballot access in the third party world (or any other world for that matter). Baldwin got 200k votes because Barr was so bad (which caused him to get the Paul endorsement)–that’s the only reason.
22 paulie // Nov 9, 2012 at 4:58 pm
Castle made up for it.
Baldwin was also much better than Goode on the issues and had cred because he campaigned for Ron Paul, and Clymer is much better at making ballot access happen than Goode.
Castle and Clymer should run next time – either of them, or both.
23 Cody Quirk // Nov 10, 2012 at 7:46 pm
At least Goode did better then Howard Phillips did back in 2000. FYI on #17- Chuck Baldwin is no longer in the CP.
24 paulie // Nov 10, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Well, yeah. Pat Buchanan was running, and the USTP was originally created so he could run, but he chose to go Reform Party. Also, Bush-Gore was very close. So those two things were problems in 2000, but not so much in 2012.
He was still better ideologically than Goode and more appealing to a larger number of Ron Paul supporters. Clymer or Castle would be even better if either of them will run next time.
25 Cody Quirk // Nov 10, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Oh well, it just wasn’t our year.
26 paulie // Nov 10, 2012 at 8:05 pm
No, it wasn’t. And the candidate choice was a big part of that.
27 NewFederalist // Nov 12, 2012 at 4:59 pm
“The Constitution Party does need to get a lot more serious about ballot access and running more effective campaigns if they ever want to get anywhere.”
That is very true but the same can be said for all minor parties. I don’t envy the CP since they seem to get the scraps from the GOP table. Unless the GOP can resurrect Ronald Reagan, the CP will always be underfunded and be too late to mount a serious threat from the right to the Republicans once their moderate to liberal nominee is known. If they can resurrect Ronald Reagan the CP has no reason to exist. I don’t see a win in there anyplace.
28 Cody Quirk // Nov 13, 2012 at 1:11 am
Yes and no, Paulie
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