Herman Cain Calls for a Third Party

Salon has the following article: “GOP Civil War: Herman Cain Calls for Third Party

Steve Schmidt, a top Republican strategist who ran John McCain’s 2008 campaign, invoked the term on MSNBC this morning. “When I talk about a civil war in the Republican Party, what I mean is, it’s time for Republican elected leaders to stand up and to repudiate this nonsense [of the extreme right wing], and to repudiate it directly,” he said.

But on the other side of the fight, Herman Cain, the former presidential candidate who still has a robust following via his popular talk radio program and speaking tours, today suggested the most clear step to open civil war: secession. Appearing on Bryan Fischer’s radio program this afternoon, Cain called for a large faction of Republican Party leaders to desert the party and form a third, more conservative party.

“I never thought that I would say this, and this is the first time publicly that I’ve said it: We need a third party to save this country. Not Ron Paul and the Ron Paulites. No. We need a legitimate third party to challenge the current system that we have, because I don’t believe that the Republican Party … has the ability to rebrand itself,” Cain said.

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42 thoughts on “Herman Cain Calls for a Third Party

  1. RedPhillips Post author

    ““When I talk about a civil war in the Republican Party, what I mean is, it’s time for Republican elected leaders to stand up and to repudiate this nonsense [of the extreme right wing], and to repudiate it directly,” he said.”

    As a supporter of the Constitution Party, I dare Republican leaders to do so. I double dog dare them.

  2. Jill Pyeatt

    I have been saying awhile that I didn’t think the GOP would survive this nasty campaign season intact. I’m not sure what will happen, but their obvious cheating and ethics breaches showed that they are a very troubled party.

  3. paulie

    I predict this goes nowhere.

    There’s talk like this all the time, from people who haven’t had to deal with the realities of ballot access, debate exclusion, etc.

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  5. Jill Pyeatt

    RP @ 5: I expect Republicans will continue to discredit Ron Paul and his follows. They don’t want anyone to realize they may have had something to do with losing the election.

  6. Trent Hill

    No they don’t. Cain is pro-war, voted for TARP, and is a serial philanderer, he’d be boo’ed from the floor before he said a word.

    And that’s to say nothing of his support for all manner of other programs the CP dislikes.

  7. Nicholas Sarwark

    If the Reform Party was still a viable fit in there. They never really had any deal breakers in their platform, so his unique mix of positions wouldn’t be a problem.

    I’d tell Mr. Cain that there is a legitimate third party, but I’d rather not draw his attention and have to deal with him at the next national convention.

  8. paulie

    No they don’t. Cain is pro-war, voted for TARP, and is a serial philanderer, he’d be boo’ed from the floor before he said a word.

    Maybe he should give Hoefling a call? LOL

  9. Andy

    “Able // Nov 8, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    @8 Where did Cain, who’s never been in Congress, vote for TARP? The Godfather’s boardroom?”

    Herman Cain may not have been in Congress to vote for the TARP bailout bill, but he did say that he supports it.

  10. Ron Calhoun

    Well…the country has been high-jacked by special interest groups such as liberals, indigent minorities, gays and others who, are only valid in numbers when they piggy-back on each others agenda…I for one would love for the South to excuse itself from any group or section of the country that wants to force others to do it their way or no way…these special interest groups aren’t large enough in numbers or strength to have their own country….they have to use others and what others work hard to get…

  11. Deran

    @15 Angry white people for the lose! Luckily for the Republic, such people are a quickly shrinking minority.

    Maybe Cain, Trump and Dondero can for a party?

    I read Dondero’s blog post this morning. “Your wife voted for Obama? Divorce her! The end is here!” Same sort of foofarah I heard from the Dems after 2004.

  12. Steven Berson

    I nominate Eric Dondero for the National Ass Hat champion of 2012! Could their possibly be anyone more pathetic more abusive of the word “libertarian” out there?

  13. JT

    Paulie: “I predict this goes nowhere.

    There’s talk like this all the time, from people who haven’t had to deal with the realities of ballot access, debate exclusion, etc.”

    I agree. I’d bet that Cain is clueless about it. Of course, based on many of his statements, I already thought he was clueless about plenty of other things.

    Stick a fork in you, Mr. Cain. You’re done.

  14. paulie

    Your wife voted for Obama? Divorce her! The end is here!

    A picture is worth a thousand words, so:

    As for me – I am pretty happy. Message from John Mills below the dashes:

    ————————-

    Wow! What an election night.

    I have been a political activist with the LP now for almost 40 years – dating to my vote for Roger McBride in ’76.

    Almost always – without fail – I find myself on the losing end of every vote on everything. It’s the life of the avant-garde – always pushing forward into the future, but never having the support of the vision-less masses mired in the past.

    BUT THIS YEAR, WOW!

    OK, Gary Johnson did not win, but he got well over a million votes – even while being totally shut out and ignored by all major media. OK, Richard Sanders (Washington State’s overtly libertarian supreme court justice) did not win . . . hmmmm. BUT in Washington State:

    I-74 the same-sex marriage initiative PASSED. (Endorsed by LPWA,)
    I-502 legalizing pot PASSED. (Endorsed by LPWA.)
    Charter schools PASSED. (Endorsed, I think, by LPWA.)
    The supermajority to raise taxes PASSED (again, and by almost a 2-1 margin). (Endorsed by LPWA,)
    On both advisory votes as to tax increases approved by the legislature last year – both bills were REJECTED by voters.
    In Pierce County (where I live) a proposal to raise taxes to fund mass transit – REJECTED

    In short, I find that on almost everything, I’m on the WINNING side of the election. YIKES!!

    Forty years ago, when I was confronted often with people who asked “Why to the librarians need a political party?” and when I was arguing for legalized pot and social tolerance, together with fiscal sanity, the voting results today were kind of “over the rainbow” – I was hoping with hard work, maybe my kids would see those things come to pass. But, here it is, happening right now.

    And, to top it – the faux-liberty party, the ersatz-liberty party, the dang spoiler for our cause, the Rs, IMPLODED, showing that their socially intolerant agenda dooms them to failure, thus paving the way for our eventual success. I mean, really, if they can’t win the presidency this year, they are really cooked. Wow!

    Plus, in what just really rows my boat, the blowhard Wayne Root, along with the insufferable Michael Medved,who both predicted a sweeping Romney victory, were bitch-slapped – basically given the “sit down and shut up” treatment.

    And, to top all that – look at http://www.google.com/elections/ed/us/results where you will see state-by-state vote totals reported . . . for Obama, Romney – AND JOHNSON!!!!! Forty years ago, that would be unimaginable.

    We are rapidly arriving in the promised land. I think, it could be summed up in Gary’s tag-line: America: “You are Libertarian.”

    I know that you all put in hours and hours of mostly thankless work; often without any real feedback that’s positive.

    Just wanted to say: You Rock!

    One other tidbit – in my state senate district, a guy named Jack Connelly ran. He’s a very, very wealthy lawyer who is basically a Republican in a heavily D district. He put (rumor has it) nearly a million dollars into his campaign – way off the charts for state house. He lost – thereby proving, once again, that money alone doesn’t win elections.

    J. Mills

  15. Thomas L. Knapp

    @17, 18, 19,

    Don’t be too hard on Dondero. There’s a rational explanation for the severe cases of Republican derangement this year.

    In 2000 and 2004, the campaigns were hard-fought, but the Republican candidate won.

    In 2008, the Republicans knew they were going to lose. They showed the flag, but very few of them woke up on the first Tuesday in November thinking that John McCain was going to be elected.

    But in 2012, lots of Republicans were absolutely, positively, sure — beyond a shadow of doubt — that Romney was going to beat Obama like a red-headed stepchild, and that the GOP was going to re-take the US Senate.

    They believed it. They believed it intensely.

    They had picked up seats in 2010.

    Their thought leaders — the Sean Hannitys and Wayne Allyn Roots — were telling them the polls were all wrong, over-sampling Democrats, under-estimating GOP turnout, etc.

    The outcome took them completely by surprise and disproved virtually everything they thought they knew about the current mood of the American electorate.

    Some of them are going to be apeshit crazy for awhile — and if they already were, even more so.

  16. Thane Eichenauer

    @18
    Dondero held himself back to only using the f-word (or variant) 4 times. He is obviously getting soft in his old age.
    I hope he has a copy of Atlas Shrugged to read when he arrives at his own personal Galt’s Gulch.
    530 comments on his post make me wonder how many profanity laced but interesting posts I have missed since I opted out of his realm of salty sailoring.
    Donderooooo! (that’s five o’s)

  17. Jared King

    We’ll to anyone who knows Eric Dondero and didn’t vote Democrat, I’m sorry. You’re stuck with him I guess.

    But to the uneducated commentors on New York.com, they believe him when he says he’s a libertarian. The guy’s whose main priority is support for the War on Terrorism, and expanding it. Take a listen to this classic from Harry Browne’s old show with guest Dondero

  18. RedPhillips

    “Luckily for the Republic, such people are a quickly shrinking minority.”

    Deran, if someone said the same thing about blacks or another minority they would be accused of a thought crime and called all sorts of bad names. But celebrating the demographic demise of white is just fine. Some of us call that a double standard.

  19. Kleptocracy And You

    Yes go ahead and splinter, as a national Party I would say you are about done. Obama won so-called battleground states by 5 to six points and VA and FL AGAIN! This is seriously BAD news for the Rs. Obama received 10 million LESS votes in 2012 but still won by almost 3M and did get a landslide in the EC! A R POTUS may never happen again (unless the kleptocracy decides we NEED one) . They have let the EC get away from them as the Ds (BUMS, fleas and leeches) moved into former R states and have TAKEN over !

    Knapp I must disagree! The Rs didn’t win in ’00. They cheated in FL and possible OH. The Buffoon was an illegitimate POTUS and his 8 years cost us several TRILLION !$!$! and much of our FREEDOM.

    Is GEORGE WALKER BUSH Retarded?… Got a minute to find out? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyAdhVxtDq0&feature=related
    Never FEAR America “they” are grooming Jeb Bush as you SLEEP!

    #4 is an all-timer!!! ANYONE who thinks this buffoon’s not a puppet is a dumbass! Sorry but true ! The puppetmasters smile when they think of givings us both H.W. and W., ENJOY!

    David Letterman gives you the “real” Bush: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7GjfyTfjPk&NR=1&feature=fvwp
    Never FEAR America “the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)” is grooming Jeb Bush as you SLEEP!

    Mr. Pizza Chain there IS already a Justice for ALL Alternative Party –

    History of the Libertarian Party: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYQRzXd1UvQ&feature=related

  20. Thomas L. Knapp

    KAY @ 30

    “Knapp I must disagree! The Rs didn’t win in ’00. ”

    Yes, they did. Even if they won dishonestly (and I agree that they did), they won.

    Remember, I’m trying to explain this week’s derangement syndrome among Republicans, not anything else.

  21. Tom Blanton

    Yep, the GOP stole the election fair and square in 2000. Gore tried, but his lawyers couldn’t pull it off.

    I just wish someone would explain the derangement syndrome among Republicans before this week, and even more so, the Dems.

    How can you love someone who does the same shit for 4 years as someone you hated for eight years? Oh well, I guess the crazy center-left liberals would have loved Bush if only he had pretended to evolve on gay marriage.

  22. Be Rational

    “How can you love someone who does the same shit for 4 years as someone you hated for eight years?”

    … How can someone get married for a second time to a new spouse that is just a replay of the same baggage they had in the first?

    … How come Charlie Brown keeps trying to kick that football?

  23. Tom Blanton

    It seems Dondero is a fucking liar, but then we knew that already. On 11/7 he posts:

    This may be my last post here at Libertarian Republican for quite some time, possibly forever.

    Then, 2 days later he back posting again. I think it’s time to tell anyone calling themselves a “Libertarian Republican” to eat shit and die. Divorce them. Take them out of your will. Quit working for them. Smack ‘em upside the head with a large dead fish.

    This treatment should also be extended to anyone calling themselves a “Reagan Libertarian”.

    The end of the world and all things too horrible to mention that began with the reelection of Obama is the fault of idiot Republicans who cling to the false belief that a small tax cut constitutes freedom and war constitutes peace.

    Republicans voted for Obama the minute they voted to nominate Romney, Bachmann, Gingrich, Cain, Perry, or Santorum.

    On second thought, all Republicans and Democrats should eat shit and die, or at least quit voting.

  24. paulie

    if someone said the same thing about blacks or another minority they would be accused of a thought crime and called all sorts of bad names. But celebrating the demographic demise of white is just fine. Some of us call that a double standard.

    I think Deran meant racists, not “white” people per se. People primarily identified as white are not a minority in the US yet.

  25. Thomas L. Knapp

    Ethnic identity politics sucks. It sucks regardless of which ethnic identity group it is aimed at.

    The thing is, though, that both major parties play ethnic identity politics. The Republicans just don’t do it as well as the Democrats. Their message is aimed at a shrinking demographic (white voters) rather than at the growing ones (blacks and Latinos), and their message apparently isn’t very persuasive to that demographic, seeing as how the Democrats remain competitive with that demographic.

  26. Green_Liberal

    Wow that Eric Dondero is a raving disgrace.

    This is a good example of how the 2-party duopoly destroys patriotism and the basis of free-thought–“our team” and “your team”.

    Dondero, there’s virtually no difference b/w Obamney on economics. The people (barely) repudiated Romney and his team because they don’t want another oil war.

    The fact that 48%+ continue to drink the GOP crazy-aid is in fact the best reason to leave America.

  27. paulie

    I’ve often said that my view of politics is like watching a football game between the red and blue teams – from the perspective of the grass on the playing field.

  28. NewFederalist

    Perhaps Mr. Cain can get together with Donald Trump, Michael Bloomberg and Jesse Ventura. Now that’s a party! (And I bet the pizza would be free!)

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