Below is a Facebook post from Tom Hoefling, the CA AIP Presidential nominee.
FYI…
It should be noted that while my friend J.D. Ellis of Tennessee was nominated for Vice-President by America’s Party in February, and will be running with me in all the states except California, the AIP in California chose to nominate someone else for that role.
His name is Dr. Robert Ornelas of Anaheim, CA.
I’m still getting to know him myself, so I haven’t made any public comments as yet, until this post.But my brief conversations with Mr. Ornelas so far leave me deeply impressed with his principles and character.
And it appears that he may well be able to provide the opening into the Los Angeles area that we must have to really take it to Obama.
Tom Hoefling
24 responses so far ↓
1 NewFederalist // Aug 12, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Nice. Really nice. What a bunch of jerkoffs!
2 Ad Hoc // Aug 12, 2012 at 8:12 pm
“….and will be running with me in all the states except California, ..”
Which ones?
3 Ad Hoc // Aug 12, 2012 at 8:14 pm
“……….And it appears that he may well be able to provide the opening into the Los Angeles area that we must have to really take it to Obama.”
They are shaking in their boots at the White House Situation Room.
4 bruuno // Aug 12, 2012 at 8:34 pm
#3- Seriously. What a pack of a** clowns. Maybe they think this can get Mel Gibson’s vote.
5 NewFederalist // Aug 12, 2012 at 8:35 pm
I think these idiots should join Ogle’s fantasy parliament circle jerk.
6 Richard Winger // Aug 12, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Dr. Robert Ornelas was Rev. Wiley Drake’s choice for vice-president, if the convention had nominated Rev. Drake for president. Rev. Drake asked for the presidential nomination but did not receive it. But the convention gave Rev. Drake a consolation prize, of sorts, by picking Dr. Ornelas for vice-president. Dr. Ornelas lives in Anaheim, Orange County, California, and works with SOG Ministries (Sons of God) to develop Hip Hop oriented evangelistic literature.
7 Catholic Trotskyist // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:19 pm
NF, some of them already have joined.
8 William Saturn // Aug 13, 2012 at 1:25 am
They wanted a Hoe Fling. Perhaps Concerned Chuck and Hetro Harry were right.
9 Peter Gemma // Aug 13, 2012 at 8:54 am
Hoefling-Ornelas: another tiny asterisk in political history. Their grandkids can giggle about it.
10 Root's Teeth Are Awesome // Aug 13, 2012 at 9:31 am
Richard, do you know if there will be any “certified write-in candidates” on the California ballot this year?
And will Ron Paul be a certified write-in candidate in CA, as he was in 2008?
11 Richard Winger // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:32 am
#10, yes, but the deadline lies in the future so we can’t know who will file.
12 just American // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:49 am
The new issue of GLOBE has a picture inside of Roseanne reading a previous issue of GLOBE. The magazine she’s reading has a big cover story about aka Obama’s identity fraud scams involving stolen Social Security numbers.
Has Roseanne contacted WAR to compare notes on Resident Barry’s identity fraud scams?
Barr & Root working together, that seems unbeatable!
13 just misplaced // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:49 am
wrong page
14 Ad Hoc // Aug 13, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Just go away
15 Trent Hill // Aug 13, 2012 at 12:38 pm
I hope the Ron Paul people don’t file write-ins and such all over the country. Write-ins are unreliable and this year, unlike in 2008, the Libertarian is quite good. Vote Johnson.
16 RedPhillips // Aug 13, 2012 at 12:53 pm
It looks like the CA AIP might have managed to alienate Noonan and Drake, both of whom wanted the nomination.
Anyone know if they still plan to stay active after this slight.
17 Ad Hoc // Aug 13, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Trent you are correct as far as libertarians go.
But as far as anyone for whom abortion, immigration or gay marriage are deal breaker issues, they should work to get Goode on as a registered write in as soon as possible.
18 Ad Hoc // Aug 13, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Red, it reminds me of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_Then_There_Were_None
19 Cody Quirk // Aug 14, 2012 at 4:07 am
Mark and Markham have certainly alienated themselves for good now.
The Nevada IAP will have nothing to do with them or the AIP until they are gone from the leadership of the AIP, completely.
Bill Shearer’s dream is very much dead now :’(
20 Paulie // Aug 14, 2012 at 7:42 am
Comment @ BAN
Casual Bystander Says:
August 12th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Perhaps a state affiliate of the Independent American Party should try to qualify in CA.
21 NewFederalist // Aug 14, 2012 at 8:07 am
So you liked that? I thought of that all by myself!
22 paulie // Aug 14, 2012 at 8:16 am
Yep, great idea. Richard never responded as to whether there’s any Kalifornia regulation against it though.
23 Cody Quirk // Aug 15, 2012 at 3:52 am
Perhaps a state affiliate of the Independent American Party should try to qualify in CA.
= As I stated in the other blog, there is a state law that addresses that.
Basically its a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” situation in California right now >:(
24 Mark Seidenberg // Aug 18, 2012 at 2:42 pm
RedPhillips
Wiley Drake Sr. voted for the ticket of Hoefling and Ornelas at the AIP Convention. Wiley Drake
was elected Chairman of the AIP for the term of
2012 t0 2014.
Cody Quirk
Why do you say the Nevada Independent American Party will have noting to do with
Seidenberg (Chairman 2011 to 2012) and
Robinson (Secretary 2010 to 2014) of the
AIP? This is news to me!
Paulie
Answer to you post # 22,
It would be a violation of several sections of the
Kalifornia (sic.) Elections Code.
Independent American Party is to close of a name to the American Independent Party of
California.
Paulie, spoke with activist in New York about
the formation of a new party there that would
affliate with the AMERICAN INDEPENDENT
PARTY OF THESE UNITED STATES. The
plan is to open offices near Rome, New York.
Since the last affliate with AIP was the COURAGE PARTY, do you think we should
keep that name or go with a new name. I am thinking of the NESHER {Hebrew for eagle} PARTY as a name. Do you have any other ideas
for a party name. Others have been suggestion is
the PERSONHOOD PARTY.
Siincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Chairman, Ameican Independendent Party of California
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