The Daily Caller: Roger Stone on Gary Johnson

The title of the article at the Daily Caller is “Roger Stone on Fashion, Nixon, Spitzer, and Gary Johnson.” How could I pass that up?

So what accounts for his affinity for Gary Johnson? Stone — who backed Jack Kemp in the 1988 primary — believes Reagan took the GOP from Wall Street to main street — but that the Bushes gave it back to Wall Street.

Only Gary Johnson, Stone argues, will actually cut spending, end the war on drugs, and get us out of Afghanistan.

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30 thoughts on “The Daily Caller: Roger Stone on Gary Johnson

  1. RedPhillips Post author

    “Stone … believes Reagan took the GOP from Wall Street to main street — but that the Bushes gave it back to Wall Street.”

    There is actually some truth to that, at least perceptually.

    And you do have to hand it to Stone, he is a snappy dresser.

  2. Steven Berson

    The one thing that proved to me that Stone is beyond a doubt a snake is that I caught him actually hissing at the LP Convention right after someone nominated Mary Ruwart for LNC At Large Delegate (a nomination she declined). Someone can disagree with Mary’s politics but in my brief encounters and conversations with her she’s an incredibly nice person who definitely should be respected for all the work she’s done for the LP to date – especially by a new comer to the party with suspect credentials. But that’s just me.

    Personally I think the LP needs to be seriously cautious with any association with Stone – especially after the debacle that happened via the smear flyers he might have propagated against 2010 LP candidate for NY Governor Warren Redlich (who I also have been disappointed with recently as well for his not being more supportive of the LP’s current efforts).

  3. paulie

    “Watch a battleground play out in the fall, not between Romney and Obama on college campuses but between Obama and Gary Johnson, the libertarian, who I think speaks to a lot of frustration of young people.” – Zogby

  4. Steve M

    Lets see… economy not generating jobs for the young. Obama medical plan makes young pay for the health care of their parents. Obama fighting against even medical use of marijuana.

    Obama has completely betrayed the youth, why would they support him?

  5. Eric Blitz

    On the other hand, its not as if there weren’t outright boos and other hissing if WAR was mentioned. Not that it makes it right, just saying.

  6. Steven Berson

    Steve – I actually have a lot of friends that will be supporting Obama again this election – or for them there’s just a total disconnect where they have a really blind eye to just how much civil liberties he’s been signing away, and how much wars and occupations he’s been the deciding factor in having continued. They also tend to not see deficit/debt as an actual problem – instead the problem to them is that there is not enough revenues being collected – and they focus solely on big business and corporate special interests as being the villians. They also tend to focus strictly on a D vs. R “must stop Romney” type of paradigm. I’ve found there’s definitely ways of reasoning with many if you know how to speak “progressive-ese” (which as a previously long time leftist I do) – but there’s still a ton that can’t be persuaded.

  7. Steve M

    Steven B.

    yep but we have 4.5 months to raise awareness of how Obama is personally screwing them. 4.5 months of interest of college dept. no jobs and prosecution of cannabis club owners, threats of fines for not buying over priced health insurance (to cover my generation) that they don’t need.

    Inject doubt, doubt, doubt!

  8. Steven Berson

    I like the attitude! Persistence – and just as importantly being reasonable and friendly is the key to me.

  9. Dick Norris

    Gary Johnson seems to be doing very well right now in the polls. We wish him well and good luck achieving the 15% national polling mark he seeks. Roger Stone has a long and frequently cited reputation although it is not often reported that he consulted with Reagan and helped win the cold war.

  10. O Rly?

    I also wish Gary Johnson good luck with the 35% or so that he needs to beat Obama and Romney. It is even less well known that Roger Stone helped consult nazi scientists and the CIA in setting up a secret base on the dark side of the moon.

  11. just saying

    A moonbase won’t be much help. Any successful campaign will have their nazi scientists on earth hacking the Diebolds et al

  12. Get a Message

    I saw Gary Johnson on Jon Stewart last night, and Gary was terrible. Gary needs to move away from trying to snag Ron Paul supporters, sure you can find a common-sense Ron Paul supporter but most of them are “cult-ish” followers who believe that it’s “Ron Paul or No One!” Gary just should focus on his own message and whoever is running his campaign is doing a bad job of it. In the end though, Gary Johnson has made great decisions and speaks freely plus honestly when he’s on television, it’s just a shame that he’s trying to do what all these other 3rd party jerk-offs try to do and that’s win the “RP supporters” when they can’t be won. Like they say, “NO ONE BUT PAUL!”

  13. Austin Battenberg

    @15 Just because that’s how the Ron Paul supporters on the Daily Paul act doesn’t mean that is how the majority of Ron Paul supporters are. Most of the people I know who voted for Ron Paul here in California did so because of me. Some were liberals, and some were conservatives, and all have now forever been changed to a more libertarian direction. Most of them will never support the two major parties ever again. That is not to say that what you say isn’t true, but I know that with enough persuasion, I will get most of them to vote for Gary in the fall.

  14. Austin Battenberg

    And I became a libertarian because of Ron Paul. I am a hardcore Paul supporter, and would still prefer Paul over Johnson. But I am realistic. I think the majority of Paul’s supporters, including the ones who don’t post a lot online, will make the switch. We just have to make sure Gary remains authentic, because that was Barr’s major problem with Paul supporters in 2008.

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  16. Charles Lupton

    Stone supports the LP and Gov. Johnson. However, he’s not staff and merely an unpaid volunteer consultant. As far as Stone goes, he’s actually one of the only reasons the OK ballot drive even came close. He donated $10,000+ to that effort.

    Stone is similar to Root in some ways… both have people who dislike(“hate” seems a bit strong) them in the LP, but both I think genuinely want the LP to grow. He also does, similar to Root but on a larger scale, get media. Any media that doesn’t harm the LP that any personality can get is a positive in my opinion.

  17. Paulie

    I don’t think Root has ever done to a state LP what Stone did to the LPNY in 2010, although my Nevada friends are unhappy that their counties got disaffiliated and that they are running so few candidates this year that they are likely to lose ballot access.

  18. Charles Lupton

    “I don’t think Root has ever done to a state LP what Stone did to the LPNY in 2010.” Stone is on FB, I suggest you message him there as he will give his side of things, an interesting read to be sure(Maybe he should put out a piece on it here?).

    “although my Nevada friends are unhappy that their counties got disaffiliated and that they are running so few candidates this year that they are likely to lose ballot access.” The solution is getting Gov. Johnson to 15% in the polls, making it on stage, and getting at least 5% in the GE to get public funding (a dirty word in the LP and libertarian thought to be sure, but to refuse arms from the enemy is not a wise decision IMHO) which can be used to secure ballot access in ALL 50 states next cycle and be used to help promote the top ticket AND down ballot races.

    I every movement the are catalysts and watershed moments. I believe Gov. Johnson’s nomination was a watershed moment for the LP as he IS technically the most qualified (politically speaking) candidate the LP has ever run. Then with individuals like Rupert Boneham, who has name ID, running for governor in Indiana, I see the LP is becoming more mainstream. Stone, Christopher Barron(of GOProud), Penn Jillette, Rupert Boneham’s candidacy and all the media Gov Johnson is getting are indications of this.

    Did prior candidates for the LP ever receive this kinda of media attention in prior cycles?

    I’ve also seen a “coming together” if you will in the LP. Generally opposed factions providing constructive criticism, but supporting the ticket. For example, R.J. Harris and Wrights, who were the top two contenders for the nomination before Gov. Johnson switched parties are both working with the campaign to grow the LP. Here in TX Mr. Glass was challenging Mr. Dixon for the chair. Mr. Dixon retained his seat and now BOTH are working together despite their history. It’s these type of things that will move the LP forward.

    It’s a learning process for Gov. Johnson as well and he has shown he’s willing to learn and listen. For example, after the interview with Mr. Wenzel, the governor took it upon himself to start some of Mr. Wenzel’s suggested reading.

    http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/06/report-gary-johnson-is-reading.html

  19. Paulie

    he will give his side of things,

    I’ve read it and I side with LPNY and Redlich.

    The solution is getting Gov. Johnson to 15% in the polls, making it on stage, and getting at least 5% in the GE to get public funding (a dirty word in the LP and libertarian thought to be sure, but to refuse arms from the enemy is not a wise decision IMHO) which can be used to secure ballot access in ALL 50 states next cycle and be used to help promote the top ticket AND down ballot races.

    Good goals, but I wouldn’t rely on anything so far removed from past experience to insure ballot access. LPNV should have run more candidates, then it wouldn’t have been an issue. They should also have kept their counties affiliated.

    I every movement the are catalysts and watershed moments. I believe Gov. Johnson’s nomination was a watershed moment for the LP as he IS technically the most qualified (politically speaking) candidate the LP has ever run.

    I hope you are correct. However, Johnson’s qualifications did not earn him a spot in the national polls or (with rare exceptions) the debate stage when he was running for the NSGOP nomination, and it will be a big struggle to change that when he represents a party that has received 0.4% +/- 0.1% for president in 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, and 2008, and less than 1% in those and three other previous tries. I’d love to see a watershed. But I wouldn’t put all my eggs in that basket.

    Did prior candidates for the LP ever receive this kinda of media attention in prior cycles?

    It’s hard to compare today’s media environment, with multiple 24-hour news networks among other things, but I recommend reading Harry Browne’s archived campaign journals and accounts of Ed Clark’s campaign in 1980. They both had comparable media access.

    I’ve also seen a “coming together” if you will in the LP. Generally opposed factions providing constructive criticism, but supporting the ticket. For example, R.J. Harris and Wrights, who were the top two contenders for the nomination before Gov. Johnson switched parties are both working with the campaign to grow the LP. Here in TX Mr. Glass was challenging Mr. Dixon for the chair. Mr. Dixon retained his seat and now BOTH are working together despite their history. It’s these type of things that will move the LP forward.

    I agree, but there again I would counsel caution. I’ve seen a lot of skepticism and cynical comments on the LP Radicals list. I’d like to see more party unity for the general election, too, but some people are “once bitten twice shy” after Bob Barr. I think Johnson is a lot better than Barr, but not everyone there agrees with me.

    It’s a learning process for Gov. Johnson as well and he has shown he’s willing to learn and listen. For example, after the interview with Mr. Wenzel, the governor took it upon himself to start some of Mr. Wenzel’s suggested reading.

    http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/06/report-gary-johnson-is-reading.html

    Excellent news – glad to hear it.

  20. Robert Capozzi

    22 p, s’pose so on GJ’s reading list, but I trust he’ll see the fetus-as-parasite bit as wildly overstated ;-)

  21. Robert Capozzi

    rb, the link sez GJ was given a copy of For a New Liberty as well, the plumbliner’s manifesto…..

  22. Robert Capozzi

    P, yes. My concern is that GJ reads For a New Liberty and he has a “Once in a Lifetime” revelation…”My God, what have I done?”

    Same as it ever was… ;-)

  23. Rob Banks

    Johnson becoming too extreme does not seem likely at all. Glad he’ll be reading it.

  24. zapper

    Hopefully Gary will internalize For a New Liberty and add it to his own personal fundamental principles.

    Gary Johnson is a lot like Mr. Rogers and has the right demeanor to channel a bit of Rothbard effectively.

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