IPR Monthly Open Thread – April 2012

IPR’s monthly open threads have received a lot of complaints from people who don’t understand what they are all about, and/or do not believe they serve a useful purpose.

As a result, we will no longer have open threads after this month. However, for the month of April, if any of you still want to have an open thread you can use this one. Assuming anyone in fact knows what an open thread is supposed to be, of course.

In other news, I (Paulie) have decided to turn over my IPR writer account to someone and go completely offline for good. I’m thinking I should probably turn it over to Robert Milnes or perhaps James Ogle; I haven’t decided which one yet.

I’m also discontinuing my cell phone service. For today only, you may reach me at 415-690-6352.

I won’t will be going to many more political conventions or and traveling around the country either, so you won’t may be seeing me. Fare well, and thanks for all the fish!

PS

Since I won’t be around and no one else will be posting any more IPR open threads, this is almost certainly the last episode of Rap News that we will be posting here. Enjoy it one last time:

134 thoughts on “IPR Monthly Open Thread – April 2012

  1. wolfefan

    Who is willing to admit to being so Internet illiterate as to not understand the concept of an open thread?

  2. George Phillies

    Paulie has neglected to mention that he won the local state lottery, estimated to be worth more than 12 trillion dollars.

    Unfortunately, the currency used in the lottery was not the American dollar but the dollar of a distinguished foreign country, and paying for the celebratory cup of coffee has consumed his earnings.

  3. Humongous Fungus

    Paulie has escaped from the control of his government handlers, just like Bruce Willis in Twelve Monkeys.

    On BostonTea.US he writes to Robert Milnes:

    “I take it all back.

    … seeing your numbers in the current voting round has made me change my mind about you [Milnes].

    I’m voting for you this time and I have to admit that while I have been both a plant and a jerk up until now, seeing the potential for you to actually win the nomination and, thus, the presidency has empowered me to cast off my shackles, spurn my government masters and come out in support of your candidacy.”

  4. Jill Pyeatt

    Maybe not having an April open thread is an April Fools thing, but since March’s had over 350 comments, it certainly serves a purpose.

  5. wolfefan

    In light of Jill @7 and Kurt @6 I am willing to admit to being so April Fool’s illiterate as to not get the joke. ..

  6. Jill Pyeatt

    Losty @ 11: There’s discussion going on about it on the “Lp is Dying” thread, but nothing formal has been posted yet.

  7. Jill Stein, Green Party, via Lake

    City Attorney Jan Goldsmith says we don’t get to know which hotels have the most influence over the election. (They get votes depending on how much they make and how close they are to the convention center.)

    “Goldsmith’s official legal position, then, amounts to this: Protecting the privacy of hotel profits takes precedent over an open and transparent election,” writes our City Hall reporter Liam Dillon, who’s been trying to get the information.

    An attorney tells us that the city might have to cough up the information if it got challenged in court.

    Meanwhile, the vote continues. It looks like the hotels will say yes, but we may never know whether the biggest ones forced the levy onto smaller ones far from downtown.

  8. Let the T-Rex of Talk Radio Entertain U2day

    Governor Johnson on the Colbert Report
    Set your DVRs or hold a midnight campaign party, because this Monday night (4/2/2012), Governor Johnson will be on the Colbert Report. This is Governor Gary Johnson’s second time on the Comedy Central show, Repeats several times on Tuesday!

  9. Lake

    Mickey Edwards is the Director of the Aspen Institute-Rodel Fellowships in Public Leadership and lecturer at Princeton University’s Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs.

    He was a member of Congress from Oklahoma from 1977 to 1992, elected as a Republican.

    Since leaving Congress he has taught at Harvard, Georgetown, and Princeton Universities and has chaired various task forces for the Constitution Project, the Brookings Institution, and the Council on Foreign Relations.

    In addition, he is currently an advisor to the US Department of State and a member of the Princeton Project on National Security.

    Check out Edwards’ recent piece in The Atlantic for a preview of what’s to come.

    national@independentvoting.org
    225 Broadway Suite 2010
    New York, NY 10007
    800-288-3201

  10. paulie Post author

    “Independent Voting” pushes the reprehensible “top two” scam, which locks alt parties and independent candidates out of the elections most voters actually pay attention to, destroys one of the main avenues to ballot retention and generally does more to kill any alternatives to the duopoly than any other legislation in living memory.

  11. Lake

    Thank you, altho it is linked with Indies and third parties, if only cryptically. Should we listen to them or ban them out right, a priori ????????

    But yes, *eyes open* on CUIP and Independent Voting …………

  12. Lake

    contrary to [fake veterans' advocate, Congress Member] Bilbray’s claim, it didn’t take an act of Congress to host the America’s Cup in San Diego. The event still happened.

    Organizers said the maritime law just caused more inconveniences because they had to jump through more security procedures, and cost them thousands of more dollars because they had to rent U.S.-flagged ships to ferry passengers and equipment.

    “We have some serious impediments to the race and we’re definitely at a tremendous financial burden now that we’ve had to go to this plan B,” America’s Cup spokeswoman Stephanie Martin told the Huffington Post.

    Congress did act in time for an America’s Cup competition this summer in Newport, R.I. and another race in San Francisco next year, but too late for the event in San Diego — the one Bilbray cited during KPBS’ debate.

    Our definition of Huckster Propaganda says the statement is inaccurate and it’s reasonable to expect the person making it knew that and made the claim anyway to gain an advantage. It fits Bilbray’s statement.

  13. Lake

    McFaul sparred verbally last week with a television crew as he headed to a meeting with a human rights activist, saying it had been following him everywhere and asking how its members had learned of his schedule.

    After that incident, the U.S. State Department said it had raised concerns about his security with the Russian government.

    Earlier in March, when McFaul wrote on Twitter that he was troubled to see protesters detained in Moscow the day after Putin’s election, the Foreign Ministry responded with a post saying the police had been “several times more humane” than those who had dispersed U.S. Occupy Wall Street protests.

    (Editing by Andrew Osborn)
    @yahoonews on Twitter, become a fan on Facebook

  14. Lake

    Center for Public Integrity concluded that California is one of the least-corrupt states in America.

    California rated a B-minus grade in the State Integrity Investigation, “a one-of-a-kind, data-driven assessment of laws and their effectiveness in each state,” the Register reported this week.

    That’s the good news. A closer look gives this surprising report some not-so-surprising context.

    First, only two states rated higher than B-minus; there were no A’s.

    So even a generous reading leads us to conclude California’s slightly above-average rating may be near the top, but the group as a whole, frankly, stinks ………….

  15. Steven R Linnabary

    Root was on WLW a few minutes ago on the Bill Cunningham Show.

    I wish that I was listening more closely, and the station was closer (without the static).

    I hope I am wrong (I’ll have to listen to the podcast when it becomes available), but it sounded like Root was asking people to vote for Romney, saying Johnson cannot win.

    I hope I am wrong.

    PEACE

  16. Be Rational

    It comes right at the beginning of this Root appearance.

    Root advocates voting for Romney instead of Gary Johnson or whoever is the LP nominee.

    He should be removed from LNC.

    But, in addition … What arrogance …

    Root claims that there won’t be a good LP Presidential candidate until 2016 when it will be … – Wayne Allen Root.

  17. paulie Post author

    Without Paulie how will Gary Johnson ever get on the ballot?

    I’m not sure what exactly Ms. Moore means by this question, so I’ll try to cover the likely bases:

    If, as currently appears likely, Johnson is the presidential nominee of the LP, I will almost certainly continue to get signatures to get the LP on the ballot in as many states as I can between now and the election.

    If Lee Wrights or one of the contenders for the nomination wins, I will as well, as long as the party agrees to contract with either me or with one of my friends/associates.

    The same holds true for other alternative parties that have the willingness and means to get on the ballot and come to mutually agreeable terms with us.

    I haven’t decided for sure whether I will be able to attend the convention yet. If I do, I haven’t decided which candidate(s) I will support.

    The last time the LP could make a case for having full ballot access – 2000, where Browne was on the ballot in all but one state, albeit as an independent in some states, and the LP was on with a different candidate in the remaining state – then LP political director Ron Crickenberger (RIP) told me afterwards that we would have missed making the ballot in one or more states if it were not for my help. Off the top of my head, I don’t think we would have made it in both Alabama and Oklahoma at the same time without my efforts that year.

    Generally speaking, I’m usually just a relatively small cog in the overall machine of ballot access (at least as far as the LP goes), but sometimes I do play an important role.

    For the LP, there may be one state where my efforts have already played a large role in making the difference between full party access and having to do a separate independent presidential candidate petition so far this year. However, I should not count my chickens before they hatch.

    I think there’s been at least one or two states every election cycle that would have failed to get on the ballot without my help.

    I have no absolute proof of that, though.

    Did any of that answer the intent of Ms. Moore’s question?

  18. New Liberty for America

    Up on the web LibertyForAmerica.com soon

    Root Urges Supporting Republicans
    What Should the Libertarian Party Do?
    In This Issue
    Bylaws Changes Endanger Our Party
    Hinkle Condemns LNC Gang of Ten
    Credentials Committee Obstructs Oregon Delegation
    LPTN Denies Validity of Floor Fee
    LPF Condemns Floor Fee
    Ruwart: If $94, Why Not $9400?
    2016 Convention Site Up in Air
    Olsen: All Conventions on Memorial Day
    LNC Meets in Orlando
    Project Saratoga Payment
    Johnson Spending 2012
    Draft Resolution for the LNC

  19. paulie Post author

    Root Urges Supporting Republicans
    What Should the Libertarian Party Do?
    In This Issue
    Bylaws Changes Endanger Our Party
    Hinkle Condemns LNC Gang of Ten
    Credentials Committee Obstructs Oregon Delegation
    LPTN Denies Validity of Floor Fee
    LPF Condemns Floor Fee
    Ruwart: If $94, Why Not $9400?
    2016 Convention Site Up in Air
    Olsen: All Conventions on Memorial Day
    LNC Meets in Orlando
    Project Saratoga Payment
    Johnson Spending 2012
    Draft Resolution for the LNC

    Sounds like it will be an interesting read.

  20. Steven Berson

    Breaking news – RJ Harris, candidate from Oklahoma for the Libertarian Party Presidential nomination – just announced he will be ending his campaign but instead will seek his district’s seat for Congress as an Independent:

    https://www.facebook.com/RJHarrisOfficial/posts/10150803867569104

    *OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT*

    Dear Friends and Supporters:

    With regret I must report that my campaign has not raised the funds necessary to wage a national campaign for president any longer. Initially it was my belief that we needed a back up candidate to Ron Paul in case he did not win the GOP nomination. However, with Gov. Johnson joining the LP nomination this mission will have to fall to either him or Mr. Lee Wrights now and I wish them both the very best. With Ron Paul leaving the Congress we MUST provide someone to carry on his message there THIS cycle. All along many of you have asked me to run for Congress in 2012 with exactly that concern in mind. So now with the April 13th filing deadline looming this Friday, I am happy to report that I will run, once again, for Oklahoma’s 4th District Congressional Seat. If you are in support of this action then please make the most generous donation you can beginning tonight at midnight so that we can pay the filing fees and seed this campaign to continue the Liberty Message in the Congress. Time is critical so please show your support beginning tonight. For Liberty.

    – RJ Harris

  21. Austin Battenberg

    I came on here to post that RJ Harris dropped out and right before I do I notice that he posted it himself. Shouldn’t this be front page news?

    By the way RJ, good luck on your congressional seat. You deserve it.

    I must ask though, I know that Oklahoma has really stringent rules when it comes to third parties. Are you remaining a Libertarian, or are you having to run in the Republican primary?

  22. Steven Berson

    Austin – actually that was me (Steve Berson) reposting what RJ posted on his Facebook page. RJ from my understanding will be running as an independent for Congress due to the fact that he can’t get on the ballot as a Libertarian in Oklahoma at this point in time.

  23. Austin Battenberg

    Well running as an independent is better then running as a Republican. Most incumbents do not lose their primary. Maybe he can make an impact.

  24. Joe Buchman

    I am in Las Vegas (as a member of the media covering http://www.nabshow.com)

    1) If there’s anything anyone would like me to check out at NAB (National Association of Broadcasters), let me know.

    2) If there’s anything to check out here in Las Vegas generally, and I have time, I’d be willing to do that as well (if it supports the LP Convention, your participation there, etc).

    Joe

  25. paulie Post author

    You should get in touch with LibertarianGirl (Debra Dedmon) and see about any pre-planning we may be able to arrange if you have time.

  26. Annoying Pop-Ups

    I’m suddenly getting annoying pop-up ads whenever I log onto IPR.

    My Firefox can’t block them (nor other pop-ups) unless I turn off Java entirely.

    Did IPR sell these pop-ups to advertisers, or is this some spam that’s infected the site?

  27. NewFederalist

    I had the same trouble yesterday. My anti virus software kept catching a pair of Trojan Horse threats and deleting them.

  28. NewFederalist

    I have had no further problems today. I have AVG premium on my laptop which costs a fair amount and it caught the same Trojan Horses as my free edition did on my ancient desktop.

  29. Michael H. Wilson

    May I suggest that someone put up an announcement of some sort to lett people know it is being worked on.
    Thank you.

  30. Darryl W. Perry

    Some Americans Pay No Federal Tax; No American Should

    Comment from Larken Rose:

    Thanks for not echoing the usual envious stupidity that most media outlets spew. To have extortion victims spend so much time whining that someone else isn’t getting robbed enough is embarrassing. Are Americans so easy to manipulate and exploit? The “government” is a giant, parasitic thief. When one victim of the theft whines that someone else isn’t getting victimized enough, it’s like the victim of a carjacking being mad, not at the carjacker, but at his neighbor who DIDN’T get his car stolen. How pathetic. Personally, I want everyone–from the billionaire to the minimum wage worker (and there shouldn’t be a “minimum wage”)–to have 100% control of every speck of wealth that he acquires through voluntary means. Of course, wanting universal freedom makes one an “extremist,” here in the land of the envious, whiny, handout beggars.

  31. Gary Johnson Needs You !

    Please share with your friends who use, thanks!

    Friends,

    Barack Obama lied to us.

    When running for President in 2008 Obama said, “I would not have the Justice Department prosecuting and raiding medical marijuana users. It’s not a good use of our resources.” Two years ago his Justice Department released a memo saying they would not prosecute those supplying and using medicinal marijuana in states where it is legal.

    Now the Obama Justice Department is raiding, arresting and prosecuting citizens involved in supplying medical marijuana to people who need it in the states where it is legal.

    President Obama also REJECTED a citizens’ petition to legalize marijuana as well as a citizens’ petition asking that marijuana be reclassified from a Schedule I drug, which is reserved for dangerous drugs, like heroin, with no medical value, to a Schedule II substance. Obama rejected both with the same tired, old, false arguments as the Bush Administration before him!

    That’s why I need your help.

    I will be the only national candidate for President on the ballot in all 50 states who favors the legalization of marijuana and the end of the expensive failed “war on drugs”.

    I intend to put this issue on the front burner in the 2012 Presidential Race!

    After two terms as governor of New Mexico I am seeking the National Libertarian Party nomination. My advocacy of drug law reform comes from both an economic perspective and a deep belief in personal freedom.

    Since I myself benefited from a course of medicinal marijuana after a horrible accident, I know the Federal Government is wrong when they say again and again that marijuana has no medicinal value. Marijuana worked better to relieve my pain than heavy-duty painkillers with their side effects.

    I believe that the continued prohibition of marijuana and the failed but expensive war on drugs makes little sense. We are spending billions arresting, prosecuting and incarcerating people for a non-violent crime. Those convicted are disproportionally poor and minorities. It’s a travesty and a monumental waste of our tax dollars

    Candidly I don’t think the effects of marijuana are worse than those of alcohol but the sale of alcohol is licensed, regulated and taxed by the state. Cigarettes are harmful to your health, yet we allow, regulate and tax their sale. The continued prohibition of Marijuana makes no sense. Drug abuse should be treated like the pubic health problem it is—not a criminal issue.

    Prohibition hasn’t stopped the use and domestic production of marijuana. Marijuana is currently used by over 25 million people annually and cannabis is the largest cash crop in the United States.

    For most of human history, marijuana has been completely legal. America’s first marijuana law “ordering” farmers to grow Indian hempseed was enacted at Jamestown Colony, Virginia in 1619. In fact, cannabis hemp was legal tender in most of the Americas from 1631 until the early 1800s. You could even pay your taxes with cannabis hemp for over 200 years!

    Henry Anslinger, working on behalf of businessmen wanting to destroy the burgeoning Hemp industry (since it competed with their investments in Cotton), lobbied congress to successfully pass The Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 making marijuana illegal on a federal level.

    Prior to this, marijuana was an acceptable part of society and had been around for hundreds of years. Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin were both known hemp smokers. George Washington grew cannabis at Mt. Vernon!

    There has been much debate that marijuana is a gateway drug and that marijuana is addictive and leads to death. None of these things are true. There are no studies indicating that marijuana is a gateway drug and a recent report by the CDC has shown zero deaths related to marijuana in 2009. The same study attributes 440,000 deaths per year to smoking.

    There is no unbiased study that indicates that marijuana is more injurious to your health than alcohol. Others before me, like Congressman Ron Paul, William F. Buckley, Jr., and now Rev. Pat Robertson all concluded that marijuana should be legalized.

    I intend to run for President on a platform of legalizing marijuana, ending the failed “war on drugs” and enacting sensible drug law reform. As the Libertarian candidate I will be on the ballot in all 50 States with a Vice Presidential running mate.

    If I get just 5% of the vote in 2012- just 5%- the Libertarian Party nominee for President in 2016 will be eligible for the same $90 million the Republicans and Democrats get from the Federal Treasury for the Fall campaign– and in 2016 a pro-marijuana candidate with $90 million to educate voters could actually win!

    If I get 15% in the polls I will be included in the televised debates with Mitt Romney and Barack Obama. I can’t wait to ask Obama why he lied to us about medical marijuana in 2008 and why his Justice department is arresting and prosecuting people involved in the legal supplying of medical marijuana in states that allow it.

    I want to debate whether it makes sense to legalize marijuana and I’m ready to take on Barack Obama and Mitt Romney on this issue, but I need your help.

    Won’t you rush a check for $25, $50, $100, $200 or $500 for my campaign today, or simply go to http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/marijuana?

    Money is urgently needed for printing, postage, Internet TV ads, candidate travel, office space and advertising. My pro-pot campaign must raise $149,422.00 in the next seven days to insure that my name can appear on the ballot in all 50 states!

    This is your opportunity to put the case for ending the government harassment of medicinal marijuana, legalizing marijuana and ending the waste of billions of dollars on for the “war on drugs” before the American people.

    The big pharmaceutical companies will spend millions to fight the re-legalization of Marijuana. Huge corporate donors will bankroll Obama and Romney. I must count on hundreds of thousands of smaller donations from people like you to fund my campaign to tell the TRUTH about Marijuana and the need for drug law reform.

    Won’t you send me a check for $25, $50, $100, $200 or $500 for my campaign today? Of course if you could give $1000, $2000 it would be a huge help. Go to http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/marijuana

    Please rush me your answer today.

    Gov. Gary Johnson

    PS- There will be no better way to put the issue of re-legalizing Marijuana before the people than this year’s Presidential campaign. I’m ready to make the case. Can I count on you?

    ^ * ^ * ^ * ^
    Gary Johnson 2012: End the Drug War Now – http://www.youtube.com/user/govgaryjohnson?feature=BF#p/u/16/MBOXUjHhrVM

    Gary Johnson On Weed RE-Legalization (was legal for Hundreds of years until 1934) – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOPQiGZURmA&feature=related

    Gov. Gary Johnson – Contribute to Tax Cannabis 2010 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcH-H8bhdNQ&feature=related

    Gary Johnson 2012: Don’t Get Fooled: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNXdoeF3KaM&NR=1

  32. Gary Johnson Needs You !

    Dear Friends of Liberty,

    There is still time to become a delegate to the National Libertarian Convention for Gov. Gary Johnson.

    At its national convention May 3-6 in Las Vegas, the Libertarian Party will nominate its candidate for President of the United States. As you know, Governor Gary Johnson is seeking that nomination – which will be decided by the delegates who are in attendance at the convention.

    If Governor Johnson earns the Libertarian nomination at the May convention, he will be on the November ballot in all 50 states, and will give the voters in each of those 50 states an opportunity to vote for a credible, proven and principled alternative to the ‘business-as-usual’ choices offered by the two so-called major parties.

    If you want to play an extremely critical role in Governor Johnson’s effort, there is no better way to do so than to become a delegate to the National Libertarian Convention and help insure that he earns the nomination.

    As a delegate, you will be an important part of the history we are going to make in 2012!

    The specific process for becoming a delegate is really easy! To learn how to go about it, and to get more information about the convention itself, please be in touch with our campaign as soon as possible at GaryJohnson2012.com. May 3 is fast approaching and all delegates must be in place very soon.

    We are committed to EARNING the Libertarian nomination. You have a critical role to play in helping Governor Johnson do so. Join us in Las Vegas. Help us make certain that Gary Johnson is well represented – and be alongside the Governor at this key step in the march to November.

    As always, your support and friendship are deeply appreciated. We have come a very long way – thanks to you and thousands of other supporters across the country. For the Libertarian nomination, crunch time is approaching, and we are counting on your help. Please go to GaryJohnson2012.com and become a delegate for Governor Johnson.

    Thank you,

    Ron Nielson
    Senior Advisor
    Gary Johnson 2012

    P.S. Please support Governor Johnson’s campaign with a donation. We need your help.

    Hello Everyone,

    Governor Gary Johnson will be hosting an on-line Town Hall on Thursday April 19, 2012 at 6:00 PM PT/ 7:00 PM MT/ 8:00 PM CT/ 9:00 PM ET.

    Please spread the word….General topics & no co-host. (Note we also are having town hall and Google Hangout Sunday April 22 stay tune for details.)

    Official Email announcement should go out tomorrow.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/122541324544453/

    Alexis Madill
    Media Assistant

    Office: 1-801-303-7926
    731 East South Temple
    Salt Lake City, UT 84102

    “Gary Johnson 2012″
    http://www.GaryJohnson2012.com

  33. zapper

    “We are committed to EARNING the Libertarian nomination”

    - Ron Nielson
    Senior Advisor
    Gary Johnson 2012

    Hello Ron,

    If you want to help Gary Johnson earn the LP Presidential nomination, you’ll have to first get him to be a Libertarian.

    Governor Johnson must drop his support of the Fair Tax. It would be OK to support a consumption tax if it replaces all other taxes by Constitutional Amendment, has no welfare component or “prebate” and is limited to a maximum rate of 10%.

    Governor Johnson must support a Non-Interventionist Foreign policy without reservation.

    Without these conditions Governor Johnson should not be nominated as the LP POTUS candidate.

  34. George Phillies

    “he will be on the November ballot in all 50 states”

    Not quite science fiction yet, but Oklahoma is becoming dubious, unless there is good luck with signature validity.

  35. Edy Vote Green

    I find it an abomination that this website is turning more into “Libertarian Political Report” than “Independent Political Report.” We need to put more news stories on non-Libertarian activities. And there is plenty to go around.

    Alright, hope you take my passive-aggressive comment well :)

  36. Thane Eichenauer

    @63
    You are right but for there to be more non-Libertarian articles there must be people who volunteer to post those articles. I for one would love to read more Roseann Barr articles but I am not filled with enough energy to volunteer to write or repurpose them from other sources.

  37. Trent Hill

    Edy–we can only write what’s available to us.

    The CP and GP do not provide as much in terms of news as the LP. Also, we have FAR more LP oriented writers and readers. Send me some reliable GP writers and readers.

  38. Edy Vote Green

    I didn’t mention anything on just Green Party but I guess the screen name gave everyone my leanings.

    There is Greenpartywatch.org, Jillstein.org, Roseanne Barr for President

    What would it take for me to become an editor?

  39. Edy Vote Green

    There is Greenpartywatch.org, Jillstein.org, Roseanne Barr for President

    What would it take for me to become an editor?

  40. Edy Vote Green

    (Sorry for double comment. It said I had made a mistake when posting)

    There’s a couple of other websites I am aware of that we could use…

  41. Edy Vote Green

    …But there’s more than just Green Party and Libertarian Party but I guess we just need someone to fill in those vacancies…

  42. Wes Wagner

    For an update in the Libertarian Party of Oregon legal case… we have received an amended complaint from Tyler Smith, counsel for Reeves et.al.

    It has an updated list of plaintiffs and defendants… though some of us are not sure what to make of it yet:

    TIM REEVES, ERIC SAUB, GREG
    BURNETT, CARLA PEALER as the
    LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF OREGON, and
    DAVID TERRY, M CARLING and
    RICHARD BURKE as members of the
    LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF OREGON,

    Plaintiffs,

    v.

    WES WAGNER, an individual, and WES
    WAGNER, HARRY JOE TABOR, MARK
    VETANEN, BRUCE KNIGHT, in their
    corporate capacities as the LIBERTARIAN
    PART OF OREGON,

    Defendants.

  43. Matt Cholko

    Question – Is beating the s**t out of a statist a violation of the NAP? I mean, by supporting state control over one’s life, has not the statist aggressed against everyone?

  44. Lake

    Edy Vote Green says:
    April 18, 2012:

    ” ….. this website is turning more into “Libertarian Political Report” than “Independent Political Report.” ”

    as with “Third Party Watch”.

    Just look at how ‘Libertarian’ the open thread has become. And those aggressive, pointy headed, blind eyed Libs do not seem to realize that they are involved in classic counter resolution.

    Beyond a certain point, the more they ‘work it’ —- the more it works against them.

    donlake@ymail.com

  45. paulie Post author

    Happy Earth Day! Let’s stop pollution beginning with the world’s biggest polluter — our government

    Amen!

  46. Deran

    Well, not the headline, but the bit abt Paulie turning over his duties to President Presumptive Robert Milnes. I’m serious.

  47. paulie Post author

    Deran,

    The original headline was also an April Fools joke, but I changed it.

    Thane,

    Same here – I haven’t heard an update. The old template got virally infected again soon after being fixed so it may be gone for good this time, or not.

    This also causes confusion with all the comment number references in old threads since no comment numbers are visible now. And, author names as far as I can tell are not visible anywhere publicly (I can see them in dashboard).

  48. paulie Post author

    From my comment above Apr 8

    “For the LP, there may be one state where my efforts have already played a large role in making the difference between full party access and having to do a separate independent presidential candidate petition so far this year. However, I should not count my chickens before they hatch.”

    The chickens have hatched. See http://www.ballot-access.org/2012/04/22/north-dakota-approves-party-status-for-americans-elect-constitution-and-libertarian-parties/ and comment thread.

  49. Trent Hill

    The old template was, once again, infected. Our guys are taking a deeper look. Not sure what the issue is.

  50. Deran

    I know a person who is peripherally connected to the Freedom Socialist Party, and the FSP are making their first presidential campaign in ther 50 or so year history, I passed along the contact.ipr at gmail address, is that the best place for them to send news and such? Thanks.

  51. Let the T-Rex of Talk Radio Entertain U2day

    A friendly reminder two weeks out, Gary Johnson won straw polls, with a majority of the votes cast, in most of the larger states and should win the LP nomination EASILY ! Whoever wins however it is important that we as LP members continue to work toward building and educating the Party from the local levels up ! CARPE DIEM

    Highly Successful former Gov.Gary Johnson SWEEPS FL LP Straw Poll (2-11-12) with 70% of the Delegate Votes! -http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-libertarian-presidential-debate-orlando-20120211,0,7126831.story

    * “My priority was to get government out of the way, keep it out of the way, and allow hard-working New Mexicans, entrepreneurs and businesses to fulfill their potential,” – Gary Johnson

    Gary “IRONMAN” Johnson 2012: The Athlete’s Guide to Good Government – http://www.youtube.com/user/govgaryjohnson?feature=BF#p/u/15/FmDLD4h7Ydg

    Gary Johnson 2012: Taxes – http://www.youtube.com/user/govgaryjohnson?feature=BF#p/u/7/227YyBf7-KQ

    Gary Johnson 2012: The People’s President – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54PLUhpL8Y4&feature=related

  52. Steven Berson

    More earned media appearances for Gary Johnson here – really nice interview on RT’s Alyona Show focusing on protecting civil liberties, sane and humane immigration policy reform, and balancing budgets –

  53. Steven Berson

    Full video of the “Alternative Parties Presidential Debate” hosted by Maggie Phair Institute in California a few days ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esV8dbTTdsg

    Featuring:

    Rocky Anderson
    Justice Party nominee
    http://www.voterocky.org/

    Roseanne Barr
    Green Party candidate
    http://roseanneforpresident.com/

    Stephen Durham
    Freedom Socialist Party nominee
    http://www.socialism.com/drupal-6.8/

    Peta Lindsay
    Party for Socialism and Liberation nominee
    http://pslweb.org/votepsl/2012/candidates/lindsay.html

    Dr. Kent Mesplay
    Green Party candidate
    http://mesplay.org/

    Dr. Jill Stein
    Green Party candidate
    http://www.jillstein.org/

  54. paulie Post author

    Floor fee issue design ideas

    FREE THE POLES
    Lech Walesa, Pope John Paul II, Map/Flag of Poland, Solidarnosc logo

    FREE THE POLES
    Stripper on a pole outline

    FREE THE POLLS
    Civil rights era iconography

  55. Trent Hill

    Man, I break the story here. Reason and DailyCaller pick up on it and don’t even cite me. Jerks :P.

  56. paulie Post author

    The fact that it’s official now probably merits a new story. I might post it myself if I don’t get off the computer soon.

  57. NewFederalist

    @108… I would have to believe Judge Napolitano could BE the presidential nominee if he really wanted it. Goldwater on the ticket just means the LP would appear to be the AAA affiliate of the GOP. Carlson… not even close IMO.

  58. paulie Post author

    @110 I see Jason did.

    @111 Judge Gray is certainly a more realistic choice. But as far as I know his wealth is not such that he can just spend millions of dollars on the campaign, so that ends all the speculation about that. Nor is his fame such to attract that kind of support, so it seems that Johnson is not headed for 5%, 15% or any of those fantasies.

  59. paulie Post author

    I don’t think that suggestion is plausible from a ballot access standpoint. Some states do not allow substitution.

  60. Darryl W. Perry

    A reminder of what Mark Hinkle wrote in 2010. Mr. Hinkle did not supply an answer this year.

    Why should someone vote for you (for LNC Chair)?

    Libertarians attending the LP convention in St. Louis, MO should support my candidacy if, and only if, they want any or all of the following:
    1. membership growth
    2. increased revenue
    3. regular and timely issues of LP News
    4. more elected Libertarians to office (while LPC Chair, we ran Operation Breakthrough which elected a record number of Libertarians to non-partisan office,
    5 (where allowed by law), a record number of registered libertarians (increased due to record levels of activities, not through any voter registration drives).

  61. Thane Eichenauer

    @105
    I took a look at Moore’s page and linked PDF documents. They do a good and concise job of critiquing Wayne Root. They are a useful to educate other Libertarians on where Root is coming from.

  62. Darryl W. Perry

    The BTP National Convention is taking place now until 10:45 am (EDT) May 7, 2012.
    http://bostontea.us/2012NationalConvention
    Five candidates are seeking 4 positions as At-Large Reps.
    Mike Blessing, Joseph Wendt, James Ogle, Todd Andrew Barnett & Doug Gaking

    Nominees for Chair: Darryl W. Perry & NOTA
    Nominees for Vice Chair: John Wayne Smith & NOTA
    Nominees for Secretary: James Ogle & NOTA

    There is also a resolution before the party which states:

    Whereas the membership of the BTP is largely inactive, and
    Whereas the number of State affiliates has decreased since 2008;
    Be it therefore resolved, at the close of this National Convention, that the Boston Tea Party shall cease to exist as a political party.

  63. paulie Post author

    Is that your resolution? If so, why are you running for chair again? Or did you just post it for someone else?

  64. Darryl W. Perry

    This resolution is a result of a conversation I’ve had with several party members, who’s identity I will not reveal. However, it should be stated that it was not easy for me to post that resolution; I believe proposing this resolution and possibly having it pass is akin to pulling the life support plug!

  65. wolfefan

    Duensing in Chantlly? I was just in Chantilly this morning! I’ll have to keep an eye out…

  66. Andy

    “LibertarianGirl // May 1, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    I hate him so much but whattya say we give him tokens to get in the debates?? could be fun”

    He may actually do pretty well in the debate, although his campaigning skills have been severely lacking.

  67. Darryl W. Perry

    The resolution to dissolve the BTP has failed.

    A new program was adopted unanimously. The Program for 2012-2014 reads:
    1. Monetary policy reform: Repeal legal tender law, allow for free competition of currency, and prohibit federal and state taxes on precious metal coins and bullion.
    2. Real budgetary reform: Abolish all subsidies/entitlements, drastically cut military spending, cut salary of all federal employees (including elected and appointed officials) and liquidate all government assets other than necessary office buildings.
    3. Pass the Downsize DC agenda of Congressional reforms: Read the Bills Act, One Subject at a Time Act, Write the Laws Act, and Enumerated Powers Act.
    4.End the Wars Abroad: immediately cease all foreign intervention and bring home troops stationed abroad.
    5. End the Wars at home: war on drugs, war on poverty, war on civil liberties.

    There is an open 2012 Bylaws Proposal to change party name to “We The People Party” (submitted by Jim Duensing)
    http://bostontea.us/node/1142
    A 2/3 vote is required to adopt bylaws changes.

  68. paulie Post author

    Too bad.. Duensing tried to get me to vote through his computer but it was same time as floor fee bylaw debate at LP, which thought was more important, then he said time expired.

  69. Darryl W. Perry

    Also, it seem that Todd Andrew Barnett has once again decided to leave the BTP, this time withdrawing from the race for At-Large Rep as he left the party.
    So, the four At-Large Reps will be:
    Mike Blessing, Doug Gaking, Joseph Wendt & James Ogle.

    I was re-elected as National Committee Chair
    NOTA was elected National Committee Vice Chair on the 2nd ballot.
    NOTA was elected National Committee Secretary.

  70. Darryl W. Perry

    @132 – The resolution to dissolve had 5 votes in favor; 11 opposed.
    The proposal to change the name to “We The People Party” failed to obtain a 2/3 majority with 11 in favor and 6 opposed.

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