‘Dapper Don of Dirty Deeds’ Re-Registers Libertarian, Vilifies NY Libertarians

From an article at the Examiner.com:

Roger J. Stone Jr, the celebrated political consultant, lobbyist and strategist, and youngest staffer on Richard Nixon’s 1972 re-election campaign, announced Wednesday that he has quit the Republican Party.  Stone – who has been noted for his use of opposition research for Republican candidates – is now registered as a Libertarian.

My first experience with the Libertarian Party was in New York where a small faction of anarchists held a state convention while refusing to allow all candidates access to the rules and a list of the voting delegates. Joe Stalin would have been proud of the tactics used to nominate a non-libertarian registered Republican who had only recently run as a candidate for the left-wing Green Party. But these childish tactics are not the norm in the largely democratic Libertarian Party. I have found Libertarian Party activists in California, Texas, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Colorado, Washington, and Michigan have proven to be democratic, reasonable, dedicated and interested in victory.

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Previous IPR coverage of Redlich & Stone:
For more information about Stone, see his website.
For more information about Warren Redlich, see his website.   Redlich has an article at his site about the Gary Johnson – Roger Stone link (December 26, 2011).

30 thoughts on “‘Dapper Don of Dirty Deeds’ Re-Registers Libertarian, Vilifies NY Libertarians

  1. bruuno

    I personally think Gary Johnson will be an excellent candidate for the LP but Stone is the fly in the ointment. My guess it is only a matter of time before Johnson realizes that. Having talked to people who know both personally I can’t imagine an odder couple.

  2. Henry Wilkerson

    Stone is clearly frustrated with the Republicans. His defection indicates the GOP ship is sinking. The real story here is that he is not the only one jumping ship. I know of several prominent, life-long Republicans joining Stone. I believe they are doing so because Gary Johnson embodies most of the conservative nature we badly need restored in this country. Gary Johnson’s more liberal ideas that would natually appeal to a Democratic base, like drug law reforms and not discriminating against gays are things that were going to happen anyway. Bringing those ideas into the fore is a way for this country to move forward. The Stone example is a omen that should not be taken lightly.

  3. paulie

    His defection indicates the GOP ship is sinking.

    It’s sinking just a bit less due to his defection.

    The rats may be leaving the sinking ship, but that’s no reason to welcome them on board our lifeboat.

  4. Vito

    Eric Sundwall is an asswipe.

    He uses Fascist tactics to win the NYLP nomination for a Green Party freak, Warren Redlich and brags about it.

    Yeah Stone stopped the Redlich from getting 50,000 votes and permanent ballot status.

    So who won and who lost bumpkin?

  5. Christopher Carlson

    I see a few intelligent comments on this article and some others here in the independent. I see some other not so intelligent ones that ought to be flagged. They are straightforward attacks against other bloggers for simply voicing an opinion. This guy “paulie” is some kind of hacker. Paulie, can you summon more than a few words of meaningless dribble?

  6. paulie

    Fascist tactics to win the NYLP nomination for a Green Party freak, Warren Redlich and brags about it.

    Redlich’s views are far from the Green Party, and what “fascist tactics” did Sundwall brag about?

    Yeah Stone stopped the Redlich from getting 50,000 votes and permanent ballot status.

    So who won and who lost

    The LP lost, thanks to Stone. As for who will win the lawsuit, we’ll see.

  7. paulie

    I see some other not so intelligent ones that ought to be flagged.

    Yeah, mostly yours and your other personae are the ones that I should take down. I’ll give it just a little longer before I decide about that, though.

    They are straightforward attacks against other bloggers for simply voicing an opinion.

    You are a commenter, not a blogger, here. If you are a blogger link your blog to your comments.

    The fact that your opinion is nonsense is one thing, but repeating yourself over and over under different names is something else entirely.

    This guy “paulie” is some kind of hacker.

    LOL, I wish.

    Paulie, can you summon more than a few words

    I’ve summoned a lot more words than your nonsense deserves.

    It would probably be better if I just removed it, but I haven’t quite reached that conclusion yet.

  8. Thomas L. Knapp

    I wonder how many candidates have lain awake at night pondering the question of which is worse: To have Stone against them, or to have Stone working for them.

    My guess is it’s worse to have him working against you.

  9. Christopher Carlson

    Perhaps commentary I left here concerning you, paulie was ill considered. For that you have my apology. Tell me though how it is appropriate for the site administrator to produce bias pundantry in the site he administrates and if your answer is fair, you will no longer be bothered by me whatsoever.

  10. Paulie

    CC @14,

    I’m one of, not the, admin, and I’m free to express my opinion in the comments all I wish. At the request of the site owners I try to keep it out of articles, but comments are a different matter.

    No apology necessary, and you are free to comment under whatever name you wish, but if you post under multiple names to make the same point so that it seems “more popular” (or whatever), I may draw attention to it.

    A dozen comments like that is annoying. If it becomes, say, several dozen, I or one of the other people here may actually start taking them down.

    But short of that, your opinion as well as mine is welcome in the comment section.

  11. Be Rational

    Dear Gary Johnson,

    The problem is now clear – it’s Stone.

    Say no to Stone in the your campaign – or we say no to you getting the nomination.

  12. Steven Wilson

    Whether or not you like him, Johnson needs him. If he does get the nomination, Johnson will need Stone to help with the separation between brands of Freedom.

    Stone is very good at decoy. He is even better at burn and learn. I can’t comment on how involved he is with Johnson on a daily basis, but Stone does his job well.

    Many posters here don’t acknowledge a simple truth in America. Politics is a battle. You don’t berate your soldiers for being brutal when that is exactly how you win the battle.

    If you support Gary Johnson be grateful he is with Johnson now.

  13. Ad Hoc

    @18 He’s associated with it in a variety of ways.

    @17 Johnson doesn’t have the LP nomination at this point, so it should certainly concern libertarians that Stone’s tactics might be used to secure it for him.

    It should also be of some concern what direction Stone might steer the campaign and, long term, the LP in. Foreign policy and its domestic implications comes immediately to mind.

    If Johnson does get the nomination, what is it exactly that he needs Stone for? Opposition research on Virgil Goode? Dirty tricks against Jill Stein?

    Finally, as you say, Stone is good at decoy. It may be that he is sincerely joining the LP, or it may be that he is infiltrating it. Do you know which one it is? I don’t.

  14. Ad Hoc

    From that article:

    Stone endorsed Johnson as a presidential candidate. The Johnson campaign posted Stone’s endorsement on their campaign website. A few days ago a Stone interview with Johnson, consisting entirely of glowing statements from Stone and soft-pitch questions, was posted on Vimeo.

    Of course, if Johnson campaign money is going to Stone, it may be being kept off reports by being funneled through Political Advisers in Utah, as is much of Johnson campaign spending.

    And if the Johnson campaign is taking advice from Stone it may not be immediately obvious either.

    It would hardly be surprising if Stone’s involvement is largely below board, would it?

  15. Winston Montpierre

    The independentpoliticalreport is getting beaucoup attention on google and this rant about pauli is getting attention. What happened to the days when we commented on the subject matter of the news piece?

  16. paulie

    The independentpoliticalreport is getting beaucoup attention on google and this rant about pauli is getting attention.

    Yeah, traffic has gone through the roof. Why, IPR had to buy additional server space just because of this post alone.

    What happened to the days when we commented on the subject matter of the news piece?

    I don’t remember those days.

  17. Lavra

    @22: none of the things you listed suggest involvement with the campaign. Many people have endorsed Governor Johnson (garyjohnson2012.com/endorsements), and anyone can give advice (just send an email to email@garyjohnson2012.com). Stone is not “involved” in the campaign at all.

  18. Ad Hoc

    Let’s try that agin.

    The Johnson campaign posted Stone’s endorsement on their campaign website. A few days ago a Stone interview with Johnson, consisting entirely of glowing statements from Stone and soft-pitch questions, was posted on Vimeo.

    Of course, if Johnson campaign money is going to Stone, it may be being kept off reports by being funneled through Political Advisers in Utah, as is much of Johnson campaign spending.

    And if the Johnson campaign is taking advice from Stone it may not be immediately obvious either.

    anyone can give advice (just send an email to email@garyjohnson2012.com

    Well, yes, but there is a difference between giving advice and taking that advice.

    There’s clearly not a one way conversation there, since Johnson gets interviewed by Stone and the Johnson campaign touts Stone’s endorsement.

    Does it go further than that, and if so, how much further? I can’t say I know for sure, at this point it’s all just suspicion. Do you know, or are you just guessing when you say

    Stone is not “involved” in the campaign at all.

    ?

    Taken literally that’s obviously not the case since Johnson could not be appearing with Stone or having his campaign forward Stone’s column, which are both by definition forms of involvement, and, come to think of it, even if you are on the campaign team, it is possible that there may be things happening with the campaign that you are not being made aware of, so how can you say with any certainty that there is not additional involvement beyond what we know for a fact?

    Sorry for that run on sentence, I don’t feel like fixing it.

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