John Avlon has this article on CNN, detailing how presidential candidates may qualify for the Americans Elect on-line presidential primary. The article says candidates nominated by the Americans Elect leadership need 10,000 “clicks” from the ranks of people who have signed up to be voters in the Americans Elect primary. Those not suggested by the leadership need 100,000 “clicks”. The story also says that currently, 110,000 people have signed up to be Americans Elect primary voters.
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This post is about internal candidate selection rules. It is not about ballot access. Ballot access is a separate issue.
#15: Ninety percent of the reason Americans Elect is active now is to get on the ballot in all 50 states and the District of Columbia. Along the way, AE is encouraging delegates to sign up for its online convention. Answer to #13’s question is that ballot access laws have little (maybe nothing) to do with internal AE governing procedures. It’s all about gaining ballot access.
True, but…”John Avlon has this article on CNN, detailing how presidential candidates may qualify for the Americans Elect on-line presidential primary…”
Would be just as true a year from now.
@13 – if ballot access laws were less restrictive, a group seeking to run outside of the “major parties” would not need to organize over 1 year before the election. Case in point: 1912 (Roosevelt), 1924 (La Follette) & 1948 (Thurmond/H. Wallace).
Please explain what ballot access laws have to do with the matter of internal Americans Elect governing procedures.
Richard Winger offered this insightful comment in Ballot Access News:
If the U.S. had decent ballot access laws, as we had in the past, and as other free countries have, Americans Elect wouldn’t need to be doing what it is doing. In 1924, Senator La Follette didn’t enter the race as an independent Progressive until July 4, 1924. Back then the number of signatures for the whole country was under 100,000, and the average state had an October (of the election year) petition deadline.
http://www.ballot-access.org/2011/09/30/americans-elect-nomination-procedures-explained-by-john-avlon/
We need to be taking a longer view of things and not be imprisoned by orthodoxical thinking.
Richard Winger also offered this insightful comment in Ballot Access News:
If the U.S. had decent ballot access laws, as we had in the past, and as other free countries have, Americans Elect wouldn’t need to be doing what it is doing. In 1924, Senator La Follette didn’t enter the race as an independent Progressive until July 4, 1924. Back then the number of signatures for the whole country was under 100,000, and the average state had an October (of the election year) petition deadline.
http://www.ballot-access.org/2011/09/30/americans-elect-nomination-procedures-explained-by-john-avlon/
We need to be taking a longer view of things and not be prisoners of orthodoxical thinking.
http://www.ballot-access.org/2011/10/03/morton-h-meyerson-business-associate-of-ross-perot-is-on-advisory-committee-for-americans-elect/
According to this story by Anna Sale, Morton H. Meyerson is on Americans Elect’s advisory committee. Meyerson is former chair and CEO of Perot Systems, and also former President of Electronic Data Systems, both companies formed many years ago by Ross Perot. The Dallas Symphony Center is named for Meyerson.
http://www.wnyc.org/articles/its-free-country/2011/oct/03/why-there-will-never-be-another-ross-perot/
Things that make you go hmmmm…..
How about a cool new name for Americans Elect to keep abreast of current events?
Maybe “Wall Street Occupied” or “Occupy Main Street”?
A good comedy act needs a straight man 🙂
Sarcasm, paulie, sarcasm.
The latter has several archived pages of article lists.
Sounds like a completely open and not rigged process to me.
Then you should read this:
http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2011/10/01/americans-elect-field-director-fibs-about-candidate-censoring-committee-on-public-radio/
Then read the other archived posts at http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/category/americanselect/
#3 is in response to #2
While there are no reliable sources for this quote, Boris Bazhanov wrote1 that Stalin once said, “I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how.”
Boris Bazhanov, The Memoirs of Stalin’s Former Secretary (Global Word, St. Petersburg, 1992. Third Wave, Paris, 1980.)
Available online in Russian http://lib.ru/MEMUARY/BAZHANOW/stalin.txt.
“It’s not the people who vote that count. It’s the people who count the votes.” — Stalin
Sounds like a completely open and not rigged process to me.