Virgil Goode to Address Spring Constitution Party National Meeting in Wake of CPAC Controversy

From an e-mail from Gary Odom:

Former Congressman to speak in the wake of increased national visibility and attention following appearance at CPAC 2011

The newest member of the Constitution Party’s National Executive Committee, former Virginia Congressman, Virgil Goode, made a splash at the recent C-PAC 2011 event when he appeared on a panel with Tom Tancredo, Bay Buchanan and Pennsylvania Congressman, Lou Barletta. The panel discussed the topic of whether immigration would “kill the GOP” and in the process Goode’s remarks sent leftwingers everywhere into a frenzy! Apparently just having this topic discussed was enough to send the left-wing blogosphere into a state of near hysteria. A single highly slanted story “reporting” the event circulated among and was shared by most of the “usual suspect” blogsites after the event. That story describes some of Goode’s remarks in the following paragraph:

Not to be out done, Goode maintained that immigration in general “will not only kill the GOP but will kill the United States of America.” He went on to say that Democratic politicians support undocumented immigration only in order to introduce “socialized medicine” and gain future voters. The Virginia firebrand maintained that the majority of Americans favor his fervently anti-immigrant views, and wanted every state to emulate Arizona’s SB-1070. He asked, “Who could really be against doing away with birthright citizenship?”

Constitution Party News and Information simply asks, “So, what’s the problem?”

Virgil Goode continues to demonstrate the courage needed to speak out boldly on the critical issue of immigration (both illegal and legal) and other serious problems facing America. The Constitution Party appreciates his courage, is encouraged by his ongoing participation in and support of the Constitution Party and welcomes him as the newest member of the Constitution Party National Executive Committee.

Note: There was no link to the “highly slanted story” in the e-mail. I’ll look for a link.

28 thoughts on “Virgil Goode to Address Spring Constitution Party National Meeting in Wake of CPAC Controversy

  1. Gene Berkman

    In his 1980 campaign for President, Ronald Reagan called for “Open Borders with Canada and Mexico.”

    In that same election, Rep Phil Crane of Illinois noted that when America had an economy based on free enterprise we were able to absorb millions of immigrants.

    Ronald Reagan and Phil Crane supporting the pro-freedom side of the issue is not proof that it is right, But it is evidence that there is a pro-freedom tradition on the right that is in conflict with the current so-called conservatives and their support for a big government solution to the immigration issue.

  2. RedPhillips Post author

    This is likely the article being referred to.

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/cpac-immigration-panel-readying-fight-save-gop-and-white-america

    As I have said over and over, the fact that current demographic trends influenced primarily by immigration doom the GOP to irrelevance at the national level within a few decades is hardly even debatable. Halting current immigration trends is an existential issue for the GOP and conservatism (of which the GOP is an admittedly bad surrogate) by extension.

    The left understands this intuitively which is why they routinely dance on the demographic grave of whitey. That the right doesn’t equally understand this indicates that they are either dense or afraid of being accused of thought crimes. (I suspect the latter.) Goode was simply stating an obvious fact. If it is scandalous to state facts then what have we come to?

  3. RedPhillips Post author

    Gene, good luck selling your political philosophy in a city/county/state/nation that is majority Mexican.

    I hear that Central Valley of California is on the verge of becoming a real libertarian paradise.

  4. paulie

    Actually, laws on the books aside, I found Mexico to be more libertarian than the US in many ways. Laws on the books are often times not enforced there. Fred Reed has had some good articles about that on Lew Rockwell’s blog.

  5. RedPhillips Post author

    “I found Mexico to be more libertarian than the US in many ways. Laws on the books are often times not enforced there. Fred Reed has had some good articles about that on Lew Rockwell’s blog.”

    I don’t necessarily disagree with that. My point is that the Mexican vote in the the US is not a vote for small government.

  6. paulie

    I think that would depend on which issues you consider most important.

    I don’t presume Republicans are for smaller government than Democrats.

    From what Wes Benedict told me, Mexican-Americans in Texas vote Libertarian at about twice the rate of Anglos…despite the conservative way in which libertarianism is often “sold” in the US, and the lack of organized outreach to Latino Texans by the LP until the last year or so.

  7. Gene Berkman

    Actually, Ronald Reagan always won a sizeable share of the Hispanic vote in his races for Governor. In his races for President he won a big percentage of the Mexican-American vote in the southwest and a majority of the Cuban vote.

    In California Hispanics were becoming more Republican – and mostly because of issues related to small business – until Gov Pete Wilson unleashed the anti-immigrant rhetoric in his 1994 re-election bid.

    I live in a city that is about 40% Hispanic, and it is Anglos that control the local government that threatens my business.

    That said, I do consider “open borders” a utopian position. For health, national security and demographi reasons some control over access to the United States is necessary.

    But seeing people who want to come here for freedom and opportunity as the enemy is a dead-end road to political marginalization.

    The Hispanic demographic most aligned with the left and big government is US born Hispanics who go to colleges, where left wing professors teach Marxist dogma to all their students regardless of race.

  8. Steven Wilson

    I don’t understand all the separation within the CP. The candidates from the Missouri CP supported Arizona, but all the hate per the line on the map wasn’t present.

    I have a difficult time with the national CP. I really like speaking with the candidates last year. Many of them hand out copies of the constitution when they speak.

    I think they need one voice, and that voice needs to be clear. I think they might service their members better at the local level. Or just get rid of the national leadership.

    Their message is muddy water.

  9. paulie

    Not to be out done, Goode maintained that immigration in general “will not only kill the GOP but will kill the United States of America.” He went on to say that Democratic politicians support undocumented immigration only in order to introduce “socialized medicine” and gain future voters. The Virginia firebrand maintained that the majority of Americans favor his fervently anti-immigrant views, and wanted every state to emulate Arizona’s SB-1070. He asked, “Who could really be against doing away with birthright citizenship?”

    Constitution Party News and Information simply asks, “So, what’s the problem?”

    Hmm….where to begin…the problems with that are so numerous I could talk about them all day, although I have a few other things I’d like to do.

    Let’s start with “who could be against doing away with birthright citizenship.”

    Lots of people, myself included. If no one was against it, it would have already been eliminated, or never come to be in the first place.

    That’s the most obvious error.

    I fervently disagree with all the rest of that, of course, as well.

  10. Red Phillips

    Gene, “Hispanics” (which is a hopelessly imprecise term anyway) who have been in California or Texas for several generations are more open to voting Republican, but for the purpose of this discussion what is important is how recent immigrants vote. And recent immigrants block vote for Dems at a rate nearly as high as Blacks.

    Cubans have always been a special case and have supported Republicans because Republicans were more likely to be hawkish toward Castro, but young second and third generation Cubans are starting to vote more and more like other minority ethnic groups.

    Part of the reason cities with large Hispanic populations still have Anglo representatives is because a lot of those Hispanics still can’t vote (either they are not yet citizens or are illegals), but I find it interesting that you appear to take for granted that they will inevitably vote for their co-ethnics when they can and when they are in the majority.

  11. paulie

    And recent immigrants block vote for Dems at a rate nearly as high as Blacks.

    I just don’t see why it matters whether they vote for Democrats or Republicans, and since you brought up the black vote, the fact that a so called “race” votes more for one of the Big Two parties than the other is not a reason to stop immigration or to round up and deport millions of people…just like it isn’t a reason to forcibly send black Americans “back” to Africa.

  12. A Different Green Party Conservative

    Virgil Goode belongs in the Green Party. He can run as the running mate with the Green Party’s Wisconsin governor Scott Walker, who will run for reelection or for US President as a Green Party conservative constitutionalist, with his environmentalist budget proposal and his high experience at patrolling the Mexican border as governor of Wisconsin.

  13. Gene Berkman

    “you appear to take for granted that they will inevitably vote for their co-ethnics when they can and when they are in the majority.”

    I don’t take that for granted at all. I was just pointing out that the city government where I live is dominated by Anglos who believe avidly in redevelopment and other big government programs.

    Hispanics who have been in this country were trending Republican in the 1970s and 1980s, but anti-immigrant rhetoric from Republican politicians was seen as an attack on their communities, so they vote Democrat in response.

  14. paulie

    CT, how would you account for the reports of higher than average vote totals for Libertarian candidates in heavily Mexican-American precincts in Texas?

  15. Catholic Trotskyist

    It may be true that Mexican-Americans who rebel against the prevailing ideas of their group, may be more likely to move towards libertarianism for various reasons. I do think that the Libertarians can do a lot of outreach to the Hispanic community; however, I believe a majority of them will continue to be socially conservative Democrats.

  16. Jerry S

    They should give Goode a bullet proof vest and send him into the RP’s Iowa Causus and the NH primary. Use the MSM. Just like Ron P. in ’07-’08 but when he fails in the RP bid take the millions of followers into the CP for the general election.

    Goode is a George Wallace Sr. type politician (not as good on the stump but similar). A lot of people like a candidate to say what they are thinking, not what’s on the teleprompter, without fear. Of course that can cause you to catch bullets sometimes in this country (T.Roosevelt, G.Wallace, etc.). The gov’t probably wouldn’t give him SS protection until it was too late Hence the bp vest!

    I personally am impressed with Mary Starrett. She is trained and comfortable in front of a camera. That plays well with the masses! If the CP cannot get a bigger name they could do much worse than Mrs. Starrett.
    Welcome to a new refreshing ANSWER: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_SobkISNrY&feature=player_embedded

    A Goode/Starrett ticket would certainly bring the CP their largest totals yet! They do need to get that CA problem worked out however…

    PEACE now please!
    **^^^**
    PS -Paulie, I couldn’t get the email (ipr@g.mail.com)to work. (if you haven’t already and I missed it) I hope you will consider using this

    “http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2011/02/22/an-end-to-foreign-aid/ ”

    from American Concervative in IPR. I know it’s not third party but it’s very important to most Americans. It is exciting to know that 73% of Americans agree!
    THX, Jerry

  17. Jerry S.

    They should give Goode a bullet proof vest and send him into the RP’s Iowa Causus and the NH primary. Use the MSM. Just like Ron P. in ’07-’08 but when he fails in the RP bid take the millions of followers into the CP for the general election.

    Goode is a George Wallace Sr. type politician (not as good on the stump but similar). A lot of people like a candidate to say what they are thinking, not whats on the teleprompter, without fear. Of course that can cause you to catch bullets sometimes in this country (T.Roosevelt, G.Wallace, etc.). The gov’t probably wouldn’t give him SS protection until it was too late Hence the bp vest!

    I personally am impressed with Mary Starrett. She is trained and comfortable in front of a camera. That plays well with the masses! If the CP cannot get a bigger name they could do much worse than Mrs. Starrett.
    Welcome to a new refreshing ANSWER: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_SobkISNrY&feature=player_embedded

    A Goode/Starrett ticket would certainly bring the CP their largest totals yet! They do need to get that CA problem worked out however…

    PEACE now please!
    **^^^**
    PS -Paulie, I couldn’t get the email (ipr@g.mail.com)to work. (if you haven’t already and I missed it) I hope you will consider using this

    “http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2011/02/22/an-end-to-foreign-aid/ ”

    from American Concervative in IPR. I know it’s not third party but it’s very important to most Americans. It is exciting to know that 73% of Americans agree!
    THX, Jerry

  18. paulie

    Gak! Answered this on another thread. Here goes again.

    except when he fails in his RP bid he switches to the CP and takes millions of votes with him for the general election.

    It doesn’t actually work that way. Support for the same person, running as a Republican in the primaries, does not equal support in the general election.

    Case in point: Pat Buchanan.

    PS -Paulie, I couldn’t get the email (ipr@g.mail.com)to work

    That’s because it’s actually contact.ipr@gmail.com

    just copy and paste that.

    I hope you will consider using this
    http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2011/02/22/an-end-to-foreign-aid/

    from American Concervative in IPR. I know it’s not third party but it’s very important to most Americans

    There are many important issues and interesting articles, but that does not make them IPR material. We have a rather narrow focus here, for better or for worse. However, discussions in the comments are not nearly so narrow and we have a readers’ general news thread where you can post items like that if they don’t fit into any ongoing discussions.

    Also, your comments were accidentally trapped in the automated spam filter. Write contact.ipr@gmail.com if that happens again.

  19. paulie

    Goode is a George Wallace Sr. type politician (not as good on the stump but similar).

    That’s supposed to be a good thing?


    A lot of people like a candidate to say what they are thinking, not whats on the teleprompter, without fear.

    On the other hand, what they are really thinking is sometimes really, really stupid. I admit it’s a tradeoff.

    Of course that can cause you to catch bullets sometimes in this country (T.Roosevelt, G.Wallace, etc.).

    T. Roosevelt?

  20. NewFederalist

    Yup but he finished his speech before getting treatment. I think his glasses case or some such thing took the full force of the bullet. IIRC he did bleed but still finished making his speech. This was the same campaign where he went Bull Moose.

  21. paulie

    Hm, I’d probably read that before and forgot it.

    Anyway, I wouldn’t be holding up George Wallace, Teddy Roosevelt, or for that matter Virgil Goode as shining examples…

  22. Steven R Linnabary

    “Who could really be against doing away with birthright citizenship?”

    I find it odd that nobody has brought this issue up until there was a black man in the White House. Or is it mere coincidence that the movement to repeal the 14th Amendment takes place now?

    PEACE

  23. Michael H. Wilson

    re Steve @ 24 actually if my recall of my ancient history is correct it was brought up when Andrew Jackson was Prez. Apparently people thought he was born elsewhere.

    I know that doesn’t help us today, but it a fun thing to know. ;)

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