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  1. Opeach Obama, I mean, is this the best we can do? [Lake]

    Heart Land Heart Beat:

    Star’s editorial | KC will have a lively mayor’s race, Dec 27, 6:21 PM

    Kansas City’s mayoral race in 2011 promises to be spirited and wide open, based on what happened in 2010.

    For starters, a crowd of qualified candidates has decided to challenge Mayor Mark Funkhouser.

    That’s significant, because incumbent mayors seeking a second term in Kansas City usually face only token challenges.

    Since the 1940s, every mayor running for a second term has been re-elected. [Lake: Mark Funk En Stein and his Butt In Sky wife, Mrs. Mayor, have been an excellent example of incompetence since 2007 ........]

  2. paulie

    http://www.lp.org/blogs/staff/obama-getting-a-little-less-statist

    Obama getting a little less statist?
    posted by Staff on Dec 29, 2010

    The Executive Vice President of the Cato Institute recently wrote a piece for POLITICO magazine’s debate forum. In his writing, David Boaz asserts that some of Obama’s recent December victories have reflected libertarian values.

    Including Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell and the federal pay freeze, these measures have echoed the libertarian goals of less government and more freedom. While the president is far from being a libertarian, Boaz claims, Obama has done more to please libertarians in the month of December than he has during all his prior time in office.

    Read the POLITICO article in its entirety.

    http://www.politico.com/arena/perm/David_Boaz_B08E302B-59F3-4837-B2BD-24792DD11D5A.html

  3. paulie

    from James L Burns

    Dear Paul,

    576 words about LP membership

    I submit that to require a fee for membership participation in

    the business activities or to hold any office at any level of the

    Libertarian Party (LP) is anti-libertarian and shows bad manners.

    Do you accept the ideas that people should be allowed to live as

    they choose so long as they do not initiate force, threaten to initiate

    force or engage in fraud against their fellow human beings? If so,

    then ideas have consequences. The acceptance of these ideas leads

    to other ideas that could be called distinctions without a difference

    or they could be called parallel ideas. For example, the bedrock of

    human existence is voluntary exchange. Other parallel ideas include:

    contracts, property rights, self-defense, free speech, voluntary

    association, and rule of law, to name a few.

    Another parallel idea requires a question to be asked: Who should

    be allowed to live as they choose and who should be required not

    to initiate force? Thankfully, throughout history those people who

    have these privileges and responsibilities have been expanding in

    number and class. Do we agree, then, that it follows that at least all

    adult citizens should be allowed to live as they choose and all should

    be required not to initiate force? Do we agree that the purpose of laws

    should be to enable these ideas to be practiced? If we agree about this

    aspect of proper law, then it follows that equality before these laws are just.

    It follows that law should not grant special privilege and should not

    discriminate. Laws that discriminate by racism and religious bigotry

    are obviously anti-libertarian. Another type of discrimination is

    discrimination because of financial situation: In the past, only

    white men who owned property had rights: voting and other rights

    were denied because of financial situation. I hope that we agree that

    to discriminate by law because of financial situation is anti-libertarian.

    The LP receives special privilege from the government: Our

    candidates’ names are many times printed on government election

    ballots and in many places people may register to vote Libertarian

    and their records placed in government archives all at taxpayer

    expense. Because we receive these privileges we fall into

    government jurisdiction, and therefore, should legally be

    required not to discriminate because of financial situation

    (anti-poll tax laws) (14th amendment).

    The LP is a democratically run voluntary association. If

    enough votes are available any policy or tactic may be

    adopted. Libertarianism may be supported or hypocritical,

    dishonest, and unjust policies and tactics may be adopted.

    Just because an organization is called libertarian does not

    make it so. The LP could reject black people or Jews, but

    if the LP voters did so, it should be continually resisted with

    knowledge and conviction and would only be set right with

    enough votes. The requirement of a fee for membership

    participation in the business activities or to hold any office

    at any level of the LP must be continually resisted with

    knowledge and conviction because it is anti-libertarian.

    “The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.” -Thomas Jefferson

    As a general rule if you want more of something, you should make

    it easier to obtain. If the fee is removed, there will be more members.

    I want more members of the Libertarian Party. What about you?

    It is, in general, easier to get things with honey than with vinegar.

    Good manners are as honey to social interaction. The requirement

    of a fee for our type of organization is, indeed, bad manners.

    Best Wishes,

    Jim Burns

    http://www.jimburnsforpresident.com/

    PO Box 1139

    Beatty, NV 89003

    541-261-4163

    702-722-9494

    PS: To be clear, I am not saying that a fee should not be allowed,

    just not required.

  4. paulie

    Emailed to contact.ipr

    Bob Bird will be on Radio 92 KSRM’s “Sound Off” tomorrow (Thursday, December 30) at 9:00 AM Alaska Time with moderator Dwane Bannock. Go to http://www.radiokenai.com if you are outside of the listening area.

    Topic: The utter illegality of the 14th Amendment; and, even accepting its legitimacy, how it has been the engine of tyranny for the courts in the destruction of states’ rights.

    Unquestionably the discussion will entail many aspects of American history and constitutional law.

  5. paulie

    Emailed to contact.ipr

    From 2010, a year of living dangerously – to 2011, a year of living
    victoriously!

    Dear Friends,

    The Freedom Socialist Party sends solidarity and a New Year’s salute to
    all those struggling around the world. We are part of an international move-
    ment fighting to free the working class from the increasingly deadly chains
    of the capitalist economic order.

    2010 has been a year marked by individual and collective acts of heroic
    dissent, amidst growing resistance to the austerity drive directed at
    working people across the globe. Despite corporate media censorship,
    images of resistance are leaking out along with incriminating truths about
    this corrupt system we live under.

    From Bradley Manning exposing the double-dealing and terror of U.S.
    imperialism, to the massive street protests by European workers and
    students demanding the bosses pay for their crisis, our class is living
    dangerously. How else could we live in this time of capitalist calamity?

    Throughout 2010, FSP members and international affiliates have engaged
    in struggles far and near, big and small, to rock the system. A few highlights:

    The San Francisco Bay Area branch was in the thick of students hitting
    the streets against tuition hikes at the University of California at Berkeley
    and participated in protests of the criminal police murder of Oscar Grant.
    FSP has also helped socialist feminist allies in Bay Area Radical
    Women launch a community campaign, Sisters Organize for
    Public Education.

    Both Bay Area and Los Angeles branches hosted a tour by Puerto Rican
    student striker Gamelyn Oduardo. He told the inspiring story of the female-
    led strikes that shut down ten campuses of the University of Puerto Rico
    from April to June. His message: community and labor strikes are the way
    to ensure everyone’s demands will be met.

    In Los Angeles, FSP did just that, working with the Los Angeles March 4th
    Committee to Defend Public Education and Social Services to bring
    together library workers, students, teachers, and the community to oppose
    cuts on all fronts. Los Angeles FSP and Radical Women were also proud
    participants in the huge Arizona protests against anti-immigrant laws.

    In Washington State, the party helped organize rallies, meetings, labor
    support and community canvassing to defend vital services such as Basic
    Health (a low income healthcare plan) under the leadership of Radical
    Women’s Sisters Organize for Survival campaign. FSP pressured unions
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    United Against FBI Repression to oppose the Obama administration’s FBI
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    international solidarity activists in the Midwest.

    In Oregon, FSP worked in a labor-led coalition that helped pass a ballot
    measure to increase taxes paid by corporations and the rich. Portland also
    organized on issues of police brutality and international labor solidarity with
    Mexican electrical workers protesting privatization and union-busting.

    New York FSPers marched for jobs and hospitals in Harlem and sent
    worker-to-worker aid to Haiti. They defended the construction of an Arab
    community center near Ground Zero and, with Radical Women, provided
    ongoing defense of an embattled Bronx abortion clinic.

    In Melbourne, Australia, FSP fought for pay equity in public sector jobs;
    helped the Indigenous Social Justice Association win freedom for
    Aboriginal political prisoner Lex Wotton; and saw charges dropped against
    a young Cairns couple targeted under Queensland’s anti-abortion laws.

    In Japan, FSP organized for trade union rights among teachers and staff
    at private Tokyo language schools.

    Our international emissaries made several trips to Cuba to study changes
    in the political climate. In Mexico, an FSP representative met with striking
    workers and revolutionaries interested in socialist feminism. FSP and
    Radical Women also attended the huge Encuentro de Mujeres (Women’s
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    fighting for reproductive freedom and confronting Catholic church repression.

    Amidst all this activity, FSP also held a momentous national convention
    in July that analyzed U.S. and global politics and set directions for action
    and intervention.

    It won’t surprise you to learn that all this organizing costs money. I urge
    you to support FSP’s efforts in 2011 by clicking here to donate to the
    Freedom Socialist Party. Every dollar counts!

    Events in the coming year will call on all of us to take a stand. Bradley
    Manning, Lynne Stewart, and Mumia Abu-Jamal knew the risks when they
    courageously stood up to injustice, lies, and the rising police state. Their
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    In solidarity,

    Doug Barnes
    FSP National Secretary, U.S.

    Donate here
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  6. George Phillies

    I am saddened to note that James Oaksun has resigned this morning as LNC Treasurer. His issues are his to speak up about, should he wish to do so, but the resignation itself is a matter of public record.

  7. Gains

    GP @9:

    That is a terrible shame, and he was the only New Path candidate to engender enough trust from the membership to get elected to national party office.

    Should we expect a Starr reappointment?

  8. George Phillies

    @10

    Now that is a good question.

    The LNC has several obvious options here. Some of these people will not take the job if offered.

    Board members with corporate management or fundraising background:
    Wayne Root comes most immediately to mind
    Doug Craig fits the description
    Angela Keaton — tend to doubt it, though
    Former Treasurers:
    Starr
    Neale
    Tuniewicz
    People who teach management
    Lark
    Members of the old boys club
    Pat Dixon
    Julie Fox

    State Party activists who are doing Treasury-type things or management type things. (Start with state parties that are FEC-filing.)

    any number of people from a long time ago, most no longer connected with the National Party operations.

    And your ideas are?

  9. George Phillies

    But to take your question, if you have someone who wants you to make a bet, the best bets appear to me to be Starr or Neale. After the delegate response to the Treasurer election, I would think Neale is the better choice, but I doubt that issue has penetrated in the right circles.

  10. Bruce Cohen

    Is the Treasurer supposed to be a celebrity funraiser first, a diplomat, a spokesperson?

    Or, are they supposed to be a Treasurer first, a person with a good background in Accounting, who is, like every other Member of the LNC/LP National Board of Directors, just expected to…

    *In addition to* their normal responsibilities, participate in fundraising, recruiting and other team efforts.

    Of course, there are those who think none of the above are important, and would rather argue foreign policy as a reason to purge LP Members.

  11. George Phillies

    @15

    Of course, there are a range of opinions. For example, there are people who would want to associate our party with vehement antiSemites. I doubt that either of us is one of them.

    Accounting, as normally understood, is not central in an organization our size, especially when we are a party and concepts applicable to for-profits are wildly misleading.

  12. Boston Tea Party

    The National Committee voted to hold the 2012 National Convention from May 1-7, 2012. With a separate convention to select the Presidential & Vice Presidential nominees to begin on December 22, 2011 and lasting as many days as needed to chose the nominees.

    Party members may make Presidential & Vice-Presidential nominations by commenting at http://bostontea.us/node/963

  13. LibertarianGirl

    i have started researching cheap eats and things for the 2012 conv. I will write a story when im done , i gt plenty of time. I also have a Station casino players card( dont care to exlain wat that is) and i get REALLY good room discounts. My gift to all the povitarians will be at least 1 room for whoever the fuck wants to stay ( LP clique no matter) …also I will be finding people with vans like Angela McKinster Gurin ,( who I havent asked but reads here often , ROFL) to help with rides to the convention for people who stay at other hotels.

    actually weshould start a planning group , maybe on the radical group list ( cept I dont want it marginalized to just 1 faction) for just such things sometime in the coming months..

    love you P , hope the snow has stopped.

    BTW , ya , I have no phone again

  14. LibertarianGirl

    then your in , ill start a list , i get like 75% off for booking at least 3 months early , gonna do it pretty soon as Im certain my rate will be better than any deal the LP gets , plus B.H paid for my NatCon registration last time and he just told me no pay backs just pay it forward so , HAPPY TO DO IT!!!

    ALSO for 10 bucks a day i can have a mini fridge put in the room , we can all buy bread , sandwich meat , etc ,and help defray the costs of eating atthe hotel

    P.S i also have a house but way to many cats if we need to use it and anybody dont have allergies , itll be open as well

  15. George Phillies

    @11 My usual sources have reminded my newspaper that when Deryl Martin resigned as Treasurer Bill Redpath was appointed as interim Treasurer until new elections could be held by the LNC. The issue is that the LNC must have a Treasurer or designated assistant treasurer, or it cannot write checks or receive funds.

    We understand that Bill Redpath has stood up and volunteered again.

    Readers who check the LNC filings for last June will find that James Oaksun did appoint a designated agent, so this issue is perhaps a tempest in a teapot, but the permanent replacement is another question.

    So far, no one on the LNC has announced that they should follow the rpecedent set for at-large members and appoint James Oaksun’s runner up as the new Treasurer.

  16. Be Rational

    Did Jim Oaksun give his reasons for resigning? Has he written a letter of resignation or an article?

  17. LibertarianGirl

    aint that a motherfucker??!! the dude who was sposed to save us all from the evil ,long -serving Treasurer Aaron Starr , who was sposed to be the savior from the Starr cabal ( in jest LOL) has resigned in about 7 months??

    now I dont know the dude , im sure he’s a very nice fellow , but Ill take someone who doesnt quit and gets the job done regardless of who his friends are or arent…

    Aaron should recieve the job again that is if he’d take it , I sure the fuck wouldnt.

    thats what ya get for tryin to fix something that aint broke , ROFLMAO

  18. Be Rational

    Expanding on that, George, did he give his reasons for resigning in his letter? Have you seen the letter? Is it available on line?

  19. Chuck Moulton

    If I were voting, my choice would be Julie Fox. Now that her Illinois State Comptroller campaign is over, she may have more time for internal party stuff.

    Geoff Neale would be a great choice if he can make it through a term. He is already involved with LNC business spearheading the building fund.

  20. paulie

    http://www.lp.org/blogs/michelle/lp-grows-in-votes-and-ballot-access-for-2010

    LP Grows in Votes and Ballot Access for 2010
    posted by Michelle on Dec 30, 2010

    Ballot Access News recently released national totals for the 2010 U.S House election. In the report, author Richard Winger compares these totals to the totals from the 2006 mid- term election.

    The Libertarian Party gained 1,074,189 votes this election, almost doubling the 560,400 votes from 2006. In both elections, the Libertarian Party finished with the 3rd highest totals behind the Republican and Democratic Parties.

    Additionally, Winger estimates that with 166 Libertarian candidates in 2010, there were 6189 votes per nominee. In 2006, the figures show 114 candidates with 4916 votes each. That is an approximately 25% increase in four years.

    The original information can be found here.

    http://www.ballot-access.org/2010/12/23/u-s-house-national-totals-by-party-comparing-2010-with-2006/

  21. LP Drama Junkie

    Given how resoundingly Aaron Starr was defeated at the convention, would it not be considered a slap in the face of the delegates to reappoint him?

    Is Bill Redpath willing to stay on as Treasurer, or does he only want to do it temporarily?

    And…two at large slots open on LNC? Hmmmm….

  22. Robert Capozzi

    gp16: Accounting, as normally understood, is not central in an organization our size, especially when we are a party and concepts applicable to for-profits are wildly misleading.

    me: If the Treasurer is essentially a bookkeeper/accountant, that’s correct. If the Treasurer is more like a CFO, that’s certainly NOT correct. CFOs are strategists, people who provide leadership on the ways and means for growth. Beancounting is only a part of a CFO’s job.

    Also correct that the financial dynamics of for-profits differ from non-profits. However, financial dynamics most certainly do affect non-profits. A good CFO assesses the trade-offs for a range of options that any organization has. Which fundraising tactic is most likely to work? What are the optimal use of funds for, say, ballot access vs. direct support? Build, buy or rent decisions need financial savvy. Etc.

  23. LibertarianGirl

    “Given how resoundingly Aaron Starr was defeated at the convention, would it not be considered a slap in the face of the delegates to reappoint him? ”

    ME_ maybe , if you look at it like that. its my personal opinion that Starr was defeated so badly based on personality and factional reasons , not on his lack of performing duties as Treasurer.

    im lazy , its a no-brainer , get the dude with the most experience who needs the least time for learning and catching up to speed i.e Starr. that is until you can hold elections again or whatever

  24. @36

    Currently there are 3 at large reps out of 5: Kevin Knedler, Wayne Allyn Root and Mary Ruwart. There are two open spots to be filled in April.

    FYI, the votes for non-winning candidates for At Large:

    Dixon- 168
    Sink-Burris 167
    Myers 159
    Gray 153
    Wrights 139
    Hill 109
    Vallejo 47
    Stevens 16
    Sloan 12

  25. @39 from LP Drama Junkie

    “its my personal opinion that Starr was defeated so badly based on personality and factional reasons , not on his lack of performing duties as Treasurer.”

    You are correct. But that still means the convention did not want him to remain as treasurer. Redpath is OK if he wants to stay on. Julie Fox was suggested above, it seems she would be a good choice.

    According to the votes as posted in my previous comment, Dixon and Sink-Burris should be up next if they are willing. I have heard that Dixon wants to defer to John Jay Myers. Sink-Burris gave up her regional spot by not showing up to two meetings in a row, but she was busy with a campaign and may have more time now. If not, how about John Jay Myers and Judge Gray?

    From what I understand Wrights is disqualified because he is on the Judicial Committee.

  26. George Phillies

    @38 Either your claims or your reading of what I said is backwards.

    @39 The LNC is under no obligation to fill the at-large seats with people who ran 8 months ago, and whether they do or not is a political issue. When Keaton quit, it was a good excuse to replace her with someone that many of Keaton’s supporters detested. Wrights being on the Judicial Committee is always soluble by his agreement that he resigns from the JC if elected to the LNC.

    Electing Wrights and Myers likely means there are three Presidential candidates on the LNC.

  27. Chuck Moulton

    I wrote the following privately to several LNC members when asked my opinion on David Nolan’s seat.

    I had heard several people mention the idea of leaving David Nolan’s at-large seat vacant. It seemed like a good idea to me, but when I read the bylaws I found that the LNC is required to fill the vacancy.

    LP Bylaws, article 8, section 7:

    The National Committee shall appoint new officers and members-at-large if vacancies occur, such officers and members-at-large to complete the term of the office vacated.

    In my opinion the bylaws would have read “may” instead of “shall” if it were not mandatory.

    I believe the LNC would be well-advised to fill the vacancy with someone ideologically close to David Nolan. Of course no one can adequately fill his shoes, but an ideological opponent would be a huge disaster with regard to inside politics.

    If I were on the LNC, I would vote for John Jay Myers to fill the vacancy. Myers finished 8th in the at-large vote behind Pat Dixon and Rebecca Sink-Burris. Rebecca is already on the committee as a regional rep (though I gather she has missed 2 meetings in a row). I have great respect for Pat Dixon of course, but the records indicate he was not David Nolan’s choice. David Nolan gave nomination speeches for himself, Mary Ruwart, and John Jay Myers. Both he and Mary Ruwart made the committee; John Jay Myers did not. I believe filling David Nolan’s vacant seat with John Jay Myers would be the least contentious route to take for the membership.

    pp. 50-51 (nominations), p. 54 (vote totals)
    http://www.lp.org/files/2010%20National%20Convention.pdf

    Now that there apparently is another at-large vacancy this seems like a no brainer to me. Assuming Bill Redpath is permanently appointed Treasurer and his at-large seat opens up, Pat Dixon should be appointed to fill the empty at-large seat.

    Pat Dixon could hit the ground running and be brought up to speed quickly, having previously served several terms on the LNC. He is respected across the libertarian ideological spectrum for his hard work, leadership, and thoughtful engagement with activists. For that reason I believe he drew from the same voting demographic as Bill Redpath did at the convention: those less concerned about moderate vs. radical ideological battles than historical demonstration of hard work for the LP (Redpath with ballot access, Dixon with his service as Texas chair and Lago Vista city council public service).

    I believe the LNC would both improve the composition of the body best and avoid an internal party controversy by appointing John Jay Myers and Pat Dixon to the vacant at-large seats.

  28. Robert Capozzi

    thinking out loud here with only a few datapoints, but I’m not sure Myers is close to Nolan. Based on my reading of their thought processes, Myers comes off more like a constitutionalist. Nolan came off as a reformed Randian. While there’s a lot of overlap, I see those as different sub-schools of L thought.

    I have no read on Oaksun’s come from, but I don’t recall him sounding like a constitutionalist, either. My limited reading of Dixon is he’s more coming from the constitutionalist wing.

    If my reads are close to accurate, adding both Myers and Dixon might not match Moulton’s stated desire of maintaining ideological balance.

    I wonder if Phillies might be interested in taking the Treasurer slot. I’d prefer he give a more credible explanation of his FEC complaint of 2 or so years ago, but he might actually be great as Treasurer. He’s obviously quite bright and good with numbers and certainly tight with money. It also might be valuable for his own personal development, as he can see from the inside the trade-offs and challenges in actually managing the LNC’s business.

    As he was allied with Oaksun, Phillies would also likely maintain ideological balance.

  29. Robert Capozzi

    tb, notice that Boaz anticipates your “fulmination.”

    “(Lest my libertarian friends begin fulminating, yes, I know that there are libertarian objections to most of the items above. But to most voters, these look like a shift away from the tax-spending-regulation course the president pursued for about 22 months.) ”

    You read Boaz as seeing a “surge,” yet he clearly indicates it’s a shift in direction. Do you recognize the difference?

  30. Hmmm ...

    @54

    Chickens are well known for recycling their own droppings by picking out undigested grain. And while Tom Blanton is hen pecking Boaz over his kernels of truth, he admits the kernels are there. Perhaps TB needs to quit squawking so much, get out of the coop a bit more, and visit the other animals on his little farm.

  31. paulie

    Hi folks, just stopping back in for a quick minute, I am paying 20 cents a minute to be online since the computer in the motel lobby is down, so I’ll be on here even less than I have been the last few weeks unless/until something changes.

    However, I did read Chuck’s comment at 43 and completely agree. No time to compose my own email, but please feel free to let LNC members know I second Chuck’s sentiments.

    Would love to hear from everyone at 415-690-6352 as I will try to force myself not to read comments here for foreseeable future. Again, 415-690-6352 if you want me to get your message, as I will probably NOT see any comments on IPR for a long time.

    Happy new year everyone!

  32. George Phillies

    It might be sensible for the owners and editors to post a new one of these on a moderately regular basis. or if available use a software trick to pin the current one on the first page.

  33. paulie

    @Phillies good idea.

    General status update: computer in the lobby works again, but it’s still next to a blqaring TV that I don’t control and other people still need to use it. Will be checking out soon.

    Maryland LP is turning in an initial batch today. About 13-14 raw for a 10k valid requirement. This may be enough, but verification is an issue…among other things, they may disqualify names without a middle initial, something I have never encountered before anywhere.

    We have not left yet and can get some more signatures if some money materializes quickly. Anyone reading can contribute at

    https://co.clickandpledge.com/advanced/default.aspx?wid=23698

    If money does not materialize, I’ll need to make a move in the next 2-3 days. Not sure what my internet access will be like at that point.

  34. JT

    Tom: “After reading about Obama’s December libertarian surge as set forth by David Boaz, i can’t help but wonder if Boaz picks through his feces for undigested pieces of corn that can be served for dinner again.”

    Just wondering if you have a list of disgusting phrases you like to use in political discussions. I don’t know how all of these things come into your mind, but you seem to do that a lot.

  35. Opeach Obama, I mean, is this the best we can do? [Lake]

    [Lake: Non American English]

    Home |Science in Society | News
    Battle looms over US science funding

    * 12:27 04 January 2011 by David Shiga

    * For similar stories, visit the US national issues Topic Guide

    As Republicans take control of the US House of Representatives, science could take a hit – despite a new Congressional measure to boost funding.

    “There’s going to be a big fight,” says Michael Lubell of the American Physical Society in Washington DC. “The question is who blinks first.”

    In one of its last votes before the holidays, Congress passed the America COMPETES Reauthorization Act. Contained in the act is a resolution to boost science funding over the next three years.

    But with budget-minded Republicans now a majority in the House of Representatives, even maintaining science funding at existing levels could be a struggle.

    The America COMPETES act calls for a 13 per cent boost in funding for the National Science Foundation (NSF) by 2013, with similar growth for other science agencies.

    [Stopgap spending] Though the White House is not expected to release its proposed 2012 budget until February, and despite pressure to reduce the budget deficit, President Barack Obama has called for investment in science and technology to be maintained.

    Republicans – whose consent is needed to actually set new budgets for government agencies – have been calling for cuts to the overall federal budget,

    ……… and it is not at all clear that science will survive unscathed, says Lubell.

  36. Opeach Obama, I mean, is this the best we can do? [Lake]

    Gabrielle Giffords and six others were shot by a lone gunman Saturday morning during a scheduled public event outside a Tuscon grocery store, according to an NPR report.

    Despite earlier reports that the Congresswoman was killed, Reuters and Politico reported that she is in surgery.

    “She’s alive,” Giffords’ spokesperson reportedly told Reuters.

    The Pima County sheriff’s office told NPR that six others at the event were killed.

    [Lake: other reports include up to 40 shots total and as many a 13 victims, some non lethal. The shooter was supposedly chased and tackled and held by folks braver than I ......]

    Giffords, 40, was chatting with a couple in her district when the shooter opened fire from about four feet away.

  37. Be Rational

    @58 13,000 sigs is probably not enough. 14,000 maybe, but still low IMO, for MD.

    For MD I think a safe minimum is 17,000.

    Can we turn in more later to make up the difference if we are short? According to BAN the deadline has been extended, but can we add more to a short total?

  38. Alaska Constitution Party

    The Alaska Constitution Party condemns all acts of political violence. We must maintain our civil discourse and the rule of law. We must uphold our Constitution in thought, speech and deed. We stand in solidarity with those who have been targets of political violence. May the LORD be with them as they grieve their losses.

    .

  39. Tom Blanton

    JT @ 60 posts:

    Tom: “After reading about Obama’s December libertarian surge as set forth by David Boaz, i can’t help but wonder if Boaz picks through his feces for undigested pieces of corn that can be served for dinner again.”

    Then JT asks:

    Just wondering if you have a list of disgusting phrases you like to use in political discussions. I don’t know how all of these things come into your mind, but you seem to do that a lot.

    Yes, JT, I have a binder filled with disgusting phrases I like to use in political discussions. I have other binders filled with disgusting phrases I like to use in various other discussions.

    I suppose picking through feces sounds sort of disgusting, but there it is. It was perhaps uncalled for as Boaz’s silliness is slightly less disgusting than picking through turds.

    I should have said something like this:

    If Boaz had been on the sinking Titanic, he would have been marveling over the clean toilets and raving about the wonderful toast served with breakfast.

    My dear friend, Bubby asks @ 54:

    You read Boaz as seeing a “surge,” yet he clearly indicates it’s a shift in direction. Do you recognize the difference?

    I was responding to:

    While the president is far from being a libertarian, Boaz claims, Obama has done more to please libertarians in the month of December than he has during all his prior time in office.

    The truth is I’m not fulminating over whether Obama’s actions were “libertarian” or not, I’m fulminating over Boaz and his eagerness to point out matters, ranging in significance from trivial to insignificant in the grand scope of things, that are libertarian gains.

    No doubt, being the curmudgeon that I am, I can’t comprehend why Boaz sees a glass half full when barely a drop sits at the bottom of the dribble glass.

    I’d write something truly disgusting now, but I left my binder out in the car. But, for those turd pickers – be sure to avoid the turds being thrown your way as the word “libertarian” is bandied about in connection with the shooting in AZ of Congresswoman Giffords by a guy named Loughner. Already the left of center media is talking about the violent speech of libertarian radio and the libertarian tea party.

    Try Googling: Loughner Libertarian

    Some of what comes up will probably be making its way into the mainstream media shortly. Maybe some might see why trying to put the “libertarian” label on right wing Republican radio and tea party nonsense is not a good thing in the long term.

    Meanwhile, Wayne Root’s tea party Republican buddies are preparing to raise the debt limit again and the new Speaker can’t think of anything to say when asked what program(s) would be cut. Does this make Root look like a hypocrite? It sure will unless he comes out blasting the tea party Republicans that he tries to associate himself with.

  40. Robert Capozzi

    tb68: …I can’t comprehend why Boaz sees a glass half full when barely a drop sits at the bottom of the dribble glass.

    me: Yes, I see your point IF one say Boaz’s words as indicating a glass half full. I don’t, though. I see it as a change in trajectory. Obama seems to be changing direction, and that change could be vaguely seen as in the sideways, but with a L edge to it. Less fiscal insanity coupled with DADT’s repeal seems somewhat L-ish. That’s all.

  41. LP Press Release on AZ

    Press Release

    For Immediate Release
    Saturday, January 8, 2011
    Libertarian Party condemns shooting of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords

    WASHINGTON – Mark Hinkle, Chair of the Libertarian Party, issued a statement condemning the shooting of Congressional Representative Gabrielle Giffords, and others in Tucson, Arizona. According to reports, federal Judge John Roll and five others were killed in the shooting, and several others were seriously wounded.

    “The Libertarian Party condemns the shooting of Representative Gabrielle Giffords and others today. We are saddened by the loss of life, the suffering of those who survived the shooting, and the grief and sorrow of their family and friends.

    “This shooting was wrong, and is the kind of abhorrent political violence that threatens our freedoms.

    “The Libertarian Party opposes the initiation of force and violence whether it is politically motivated or for other reasons. To become a member of the Libertarian Party, people are required to sign a statement certifying that they oppose the initiation of force to achieve political or social goals.

    “Regardless of the motives and other circumstances surrounding the killing, the Libertarian Party maintains its steadfast defense of the Second Amendment and the uncompromising right to gun ownership. In a free society, citizens should be free to arm and protect themselves, their families, and their property. Sadly, because of restrictions placed on responsible gun owners by all levels of government, many people avoid carrying weapons that could be used to stop mass shootings.

    “Our condolences go out to the victims and their families. We wish them a speedy and full recovery.”

  42. paulie

    the word “libertarian” is bandied about in connection with the shooting in AZ of Congresswoman Giffords by a guy named Loughner. Already the left of center media is talking about the violent speech of libertarian radio and the libertarian tea party.

    Haven’t heard much about Loughner other than that his favorite books included Mein Kampf and the Communist Manifesto.

  43. paulie

    For MD I think a safe minimum is 17,000.

    Can we turn in more later to make up the difference if we are short? According to BAN the deadline has been extended, but can we add more to a short total?

    We are still here and could get more signatures, but the money to pay for them would have to be sent very quickly. We are not going to sit around in motels paying a lot of money and not working, or working and hoping that money will arrive later.

    If readers would like to extend this project, we need to move quickly before we go off on other jobs which may well be in distant parts of the country.

    The latest I have heard is that they have until March 7 to get more signatures, but it would be a lot easier to get them while we are still here than to bring in us or other people in later.

    We did have an 83% validity rate four years ago with the same people that worked this time, so we probably have enough signatures, but more would be good for insurance purposes.

  44. Cody Quirk

    His former high school friends on twitter are claiming he was a left-winger in his views.

    There’s also a video of him burning a american flag

  45. Be Rational

    The guy needed some professional help. Reports are that he lived with his family. It’s sad for everyone that they were unable to help him before this …
    ……..

    “My final thoughts: Jared Lee Loughner!

    Most people, who read this text, forget in the next 2 second!

    The population of dreamers in the United States of America is less than 5%!

    If 987,123,478,961,876,341,234,671,234,098,601,978,618 is the year in B.C.E. then the previous year of 987,123,478,961,876,341,234,671,234,098,601,978,618 B.C.E. is 987,123,478,961,876,341,234,671,234,098,601,978,610 B.C.E.

    987,123,478,961,876,341,234,671,234,098,601,978,618 is the year in B.C.E.

    Therefore the previous year of 987,123,478,961,876,341,234,671,234,098,601,978,618 B.C.E. is 987,123,478,961,876,341,234,671,234,098,601,978,619 B.C.E.

    If B.C.E. years are unable to start then A.D.E. years are unable to begin.

    B.C.E. years are unable to start.

    Thus, A.D.E. years are unable to begin.

    If A.D.E. is endless in year then the years in A.D.E. don’t cease.

    A.D.E. is endless in year.

    Therefore, the years in A.D.E. don’t cease.

    If I teach a mentally capable 8 year old for 20 consecutive minutes to replace an alphabet letter with a new letter and pronunciation then the mentally capable 8 year old writes and pronounces the new letter and pronunciation that’s replacing an alphabet letter in 20 consecutive minutes.

    I teach a mentally capable 8 year old for 20 consecutive minutes to replace an alphabet letter with a new letter and pronunciation.

    Thus, the mentally capable 8 year old writes and pronounces the new letter and pronunciation that replaces an alphabet letter in 20 consecutive minutes.

    Every human who’s mentally capable is always able to be treasurer of their new currency.

    If you create one new currency then you’re able to create a second new currency.

    If you’re able to create second new currency then you’re able to create third new currency.

    You create one new currency.

    Thus, you’re able to create a third currency.

    You’re a treasurer for a new currency, listener?

    You create and distribute your new currency, listener?

    You don’t allow the government to control your grammar structure, listener?

    If you create one new language then you’re able to create a second new language.

    If you’re able to create second new language then you’re able to create third new language.

    You create one new language.

    Thus, you’re able to create a third language.

    All humans are in need of sleep.

    Jared Loughner is a human.

    Hence, Jared Loughner is in need of sleep.

    Sleepwalking

    If I define sleepwalking then sleepwalking is the act or state of walking, eating, or performing other motor acts while asleep, of which one is unaware upon awakening.

    I define sleepwalking.

    Thus sleepwalking is the act or state of walking, eating, or performing other motor acts while asleep, of which one is unaware upon awakening.

    I’m a sleepwalker — who turns off the alarm clock.

    All conscience dreaming at this moment is asleep.

    Jared Loughner is conscience dreaming at this moment.

    Thus, Jared Loughner is asleep.

    Terrorist

    If I define terrorist then a terrorist is a person who employs terror or terrorism, especially as a political weapon.

    I define terrorist.

    Thus, a terrorist is a person who employs terror or terrorism, especially as a political weapon.

    If you call me a terrorist then the argument to call me a terrorist is Ad hominem.
    You call me a terrorist.
    Thus, the argument to call me a terrorist is Ad hominem.

    Every United States Military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix is receiving one mini bible before the tests.

    Jared Loughner is a United States Military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix.

    Therefore, Jared Loughner is receiving one mini bible before the tests.

    I didn’t write a belief on my Army application, and the recruiter wrote on the application: None.

    The majority of citizens in the United States of America have never read the United States of America’s Constitution.

    You don’t have to accept the federalist laws.

    Nonetheless, read the United States of America’s Constitution to apprehend all of the current treasonous laws.

    You’re literate, listener?

    If the property owners and government officials are no longer in ownership of their land and laws from a revolution then the revolutionary’s from the revolution are in control of the land and laws.

    The property owners and government officials are no longer in ownership of their land and laws from a revolution.

    Thus, the revolutionary’s from the revolution are in control of the land and laws.

    In conclusion, reading the second United States Constitution, I can’t trust the current government because of the ratifications: The government is implying mind control and brainwash on the people by controlling grammar.

    No! I won’t pay debt with a currency that’s not backed by gold and silver!

    No! I won’t trust in God!”

  46. Tom Blanton

    Capozzi, I take it you don’t read much that Boaz writes. That doesn’t surprise me. I take it you don’t read much of anything except IPR.

    He often alerts libertarians to the existence of libertarianism that that he thinks they are unaware of. He also is cognizant of the fact that many libertarians fulminate over CATO products. He doesn’t predict fulmination, he has grown to expect it.

    Maybe there is a reason that CATO is often identified as a “conservative think tank” in the media. Note Capozzi, (before you insert ideas into what I wrote), I am not saying that Boaz or the media is right, wrong, libertarian, conservative, or anything else – merely making an observation.

    My point in what most of what I post at IPR relates to the propensity of many libertarians, especially LP Libertarians, to associate libertarianism with conservatism, constitutionalism, tea party rhetoric, etc. either because they don’t know the difference themselves or they believe it is a clever strategy.

    The anti-libertarian left uses these associations as a blunt instrument to hammer away at all libertarians and it is a weapon that libertarians (or perhaps fake libertarians) have given them.

    Of course, I may be completely wrong because, as Capozzi frets, I don’t know how I know what I know. On the other hand, I might suggest to Capozzi that he doesn’t know what he doesn’t know – and to the extent that this is due to a lack of information, reading more might lead to a better understanding of what is actually going on in the world.

  47. Robert Capozzi

    tb, actually, I do read other stuff, including Boaz’s, whom I consider an insightful fellow and whom I’ve known personally for decades.

    The anti-L left will do what they will, as will any number of others “camps” of ideologies. It seems neurotic to worry about what others think and how they might respond to one’s opinion. Perhaps one can just speak one’s truth the best one can and let the chips fall where they may.

    Fretting is not my practice, but I am pleased to see that you are appreciating epistemic openness. Yes! I most certainly don’t know what I don’t know! There’s a LOT of that going around, I’m told. ;-)

  48. Opeach Obama, FYI / Marketing #101 ! [Lake]

    [Lake: THE FIX IS IN!]

    DeLay sentencing hearing [AP]

    Tom DeLay AP – Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay at the Travis Co. Courthouse in Austin, Texas on Monday, Jan. …

    By JUAN A. LOZANO, Associated Press Juan A. Lozano, Associated Press – 7 mins ago

    AUSTIN, Texas – Former U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay was expected to find out by Monday afternoon whether he will be sentenced to prison or given probation after being convicted last year on charges of money laundering and conspiracy to commit money laundering.

    Testimony in DeLay’s sentencing began Monday morning and wrapped up by midday, with only one witness testifying for the record. The sentencing hearing had been set to last two days.

    Prosecutors and defense attorneys were set to make their closing arguments before Senior Judge Pat Priest Monday afternoon. Priest has said he expects to issue DeLay’s sentence after listening to arguments from each side.

    The former Houston-area congressman, who was in good spirits before the start of the hearing, faces up to life in prison. His attorneys are asking for probation. Prosecutors said they intend to ask for prison time but declined to comment on how much they would seek.

    Prosecutors attempted to present only one witness at the hearing, Peter Cloeren, a Southeast Texas businessman who claimed DeLay had urged him in 1996 to evade campaign finance laws in a separate case. Prosecutors said the case was similar to the one DeLay was being sentenced for.

    But not long after Cloeren began testifying, Senior Judge Pat Priest declined to hear the testimony, saying prosecutors couldn’t prove the businessman’s claims beyond a reasonable doubt.

    “You lose. I will not hear this testimony,” Priest said after agreeing with DeLay’s attorneys ……….

    [Lake: why are we alternative types so agitated about the Republicrats and the Democans? They are doing just a fine job, just fine ------ for each other!]

  49. Be Rational

    What’s with the attacks on David Boaz anyway?

    Actually, thinking about it, David Boaz might be a really good choice to be the LP candidate for President in 2012.

  50. Daniel Surman

    @78, while he would be good within policy circles, he doesn’t have much name recognition beyond DC and our little echo chamber. That said, most LP candidates do not have much name recognition even in those places, so it would be an improvement.

    One really interesting candidate would be David Stockman- he seems to have taken a stronger turn to libertarianism, being antiwar and a relatively recent convert to Austrianism. He also would have some decent name recognition with the public and could really claim the mantle as the guy who rejects both major parties.

  51. Liberty for America is Out

    George Phillies writes:

    Read it at LibertyForAmerica.com/201101.pdf
    LPNH State Convention
    LP Maine Launches Party Drive
    Oaksun Resigns!
    LSLA to Meet in Seattle
    LP Maryland Achieves Ballot Status
    LP Massachusetts Regains Ballot Access
    Julian Assange, Libertarian Hero
    LNC Votes for $750,000 Building
    Lee Wrights’ New Year’s Resolutions for 2011: A Declaration of Peace
    LP North Carolina Secedes from LP Region 1
    LP District of Columbia is Trying to Meet Again
    LP Virginia Offers 9 Steps to Party Support
    LP Florida State Convention
    Green National Party Receipts Fall to Zero
    LP New York Misses Ballot Access
    LNC in Action

  52. George Whitfield

    Thanks for posting the link, George #80. I read the newsletter and it was very interesting.

  53. George Phillies

    Dear George,

    You are most welcome. Note that you can subscribe directly at LibertyForAmerica.com and get your free issue — Liberty for America is free –by email every month. (Your choices are ‘attached to the email’ and ‘the email includes the link’.)

    Having said that, if you want to contribute to a building, the LNC will be happy to take your money. And if you want to contribute to a group that spends its money on doing real politics, LibertyForAmerica.com has an answer for you.

  54. Daniel Surman

    That is a good magazine! I’ll try to make a post for it tomorrow (along with a few other articles).

    I have not been posting as much because I am working on another project, http://redracinghorses.com. Run by a small group of exiles from Swing State Project, our website covers electoral politics from a Republican perspective. The official launch is the 18th.

    However, I do plan to keep on writing here as well. Although there will be some overlapping subject matter, on the whole both sites have different focuses.

  55. paulie

    LP Maryland Achieves Ballot Status

    Not yet. Per state chair Bob Johnston, Jan 10:

    “Turned in 13,787 today to the BOE.” (for a 10,000 valid signature requirement).

    If validity falls below 72.53% that would not be enough.

    We got 83% with most of the signatures being gathered by the same people in 2006, but validation standards are a major question.

    As Green Party watch put it:

    http://www.greenpartywatch.org/2011/01/03/maryland-green-party-submits-ballot-access-papers/

    The Maryland Green Party has reported that they have submitted to their Board of Elections 14,842 signatures to qualify for the ballot for the next two election cycles, 2012-2014.

    This should be enough to give us 10,000 valid signatures, although the Board of Elections has been whipsawed by court decisions over the past two years that first made validation of signatures much stricter and then returned to a more reasonable standard. Litigation is ongoing so we can’t know for certain the outcome until the BOE finishes checking our signatures.

    The effort was helped by a number of out of state Greens, particularly Audrey Clement of Virginia who crossed the border to work the cold weather on multiple occasions.

    Paulie) Additionally, the Green effort was helped by some Libertarians as well, myself included.

  56. paulie

    Maryland LP collected 13,787 raw for a 10k valid requirement. This may be enough, but verification is an issue…among other things, they may disqualify names without a middle initial, something I have never encountered before anywhere.

    Andy will remain close to the Maryland border and can get more signatures if some money materializes quickly. Anyone reading can contribute at:

    https://co.clickandpledge.com/advanced/default.aspx?wid=23698

    I am leaving for a place where I can crash at no charge today, in another part of the country. We are not going to sit around in motels paying a lot of money and not working, or working and hoping that money will arrive later. It costs me about $100 a day to be on the road (motels, restaurants, gas, etc), and that’s if I don’t go out on the town at all. I have in fact done thousands of volunteer signatures – when I could afford to do them. Right now is not one of those times.

    They have until March 7 to get more signatures, but it would be a lot easier to get them sooner, as later all of us may be working on other projects.

    We did have an 83% validity rate four years ago with the same people that worked this time, so we probably have enough signatures, but more would be good for insurance purposes.

    Bob Johnston told me he would like to get another 1,000 or 1,500 signatures to be safe.

    Quoting from the North Carolina LP newsletter:

    If you have a few bucks to spare, please send some Maryland’s way. If you can help, please contact Bob Johnston, Chair of LP of Maryland. His phone number is 443-310-5373 and his email is chair@md.lp.org.

    You can donate on the website at http://www.md.lp.org/ or mail a check to LP of Maryland, PO Box 176, Abingdon, MD 21009-0176.

  57. Michael Cavlan RN

    The FBI has been spying on peace groups in Minnesota for over two years..

    It has just been exposed that FBI agent Karen Sullivan infiltrated and spied on the Anti-War Committee and Women Against Military Madness since 2008.

    These groups are under a Special Jury investigation. Under direct orders from Attorney General Eric Holder and full authorization of president Barack Oily-Bomber.

  58. Catholic Trotskyist

    Obama is forced to continue because of secret government operations involving massive right-wing atheist conspiracy, possibly involving MP Ralph Nader, though evidence is inconclusive. The Catholic Trotskyist Party is investigating, and does hope that these FBI infiltrations will stop, but must also understand that the antiwar movement is being infiltrated by pro-war Republican sympathizers who want to direct attention from the only viable sane candidate in our current flawed eelction system, Barack Obama. The only hope for antiwar true antiwar activists is to join the Catholic Trotskyist Party and rpojects with which it is associated. Hopefully Michael Kavlan RN will understand this soon. We must have a truce.

  59. Catholic Trotskyist

    Obama is forced to continue because of secret government operations involving massive right-wing atheist conspiracy, possibly involving MP Ralph Nader, though evidence is inconclusive. The Catholic Trotskyist Party is investigating, and does hope that these FBI infiltrations will stop, but must also understand that the antiwar movement is being infiltrated by pro-war Republican sympathizers who want to direct attention from the only viable sane candidate in our current flawed eelction system, Barack Obama. The only hope for antiwar true antiwar activists is to join the Catholic Trotskyist Party and rpojects with which it is associated. Hopefully Michael Kavlan RN will understand this soon. We must have a truce.

  60. Opeach Obama, FYI! [Lake]

    OPEACH OBAMA OPEACH NEWS

    Herman Cain For President.

    January 12, 2011 19:20 pm

    by Buzz Brockway “….. looks like radio talk show host and former candidate for US Senate Herman Cain is running for President:

    Cain, a popular figure on the Tea Party speaking circuit, officially formed a presidential exploratory committee, allowing him to raise money and test the waters.

    Despite being a small fish in those waters compared to Tea Party giant Sarah Palin, he’s confident he has a chance.”

  61. Green Party

    Last Friday five supporters made the $5/month pledge to the Green Party. Can we get five more today? The Green Party is the largest party in the country that doesn’t accept corporate contributions. Last year we ran over 300 candidates. More will come forward if they see your support. Thank you! http://bit.ly/viralgp

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