Wayne Allyn Root gets reality show

Email from Wayne Root to contact.ipr@gmail.com:

For Immediate Release:

My Entertainment Productions Announces Filming of Reality Show About Libertarian Party and Bigger-Than-Life TV Personality Wayne Allyn Root

New York-based My Entertainment Productions announced today that they are sending a film crew this weekend to St Louis, Missouri to the site of the Libertarian National Convention. My Entertainment’s producers and cameras will be following the every move of the Libertarian Party’s bigger-than-life political celebrity Wayne Allyn Root- a colorful, charismatic, telegenic Las Vegas oddsmaker turned Vice Presidential nominee and Tea Party leader. The footage will be used to create a pilot for a new reality show about Root’s efforts, as the potential new Libertarian Party National Chairman, spokesman and all-around rainmaker to transform the Libertarian Party into a potent, formidable force in U.S. politics.

Michael Yudin, Founder and CEO of My Entertainment, states “We’re intrigued and we believe that American television watchers will be glued to their television sets to see what Wayne Root does next. Root offers viewers an opportunity to see a high-profile national leader, who possesses the qualities of laser-sharp focus, the discipline of a monk, the passion of an evangelist, the energy of a Ferrari, and a mindset based around tenacity, relentlessness, and nonstop action. The closest role model we can identify for Root is fellow charismatic, bombastic, audacious, tenacious, New Yorker George Steinbrenner- the bigger than life owner of the world champion New York Yankees. With his injection of New York chutzpah, we believe Root can turn ‘America’s Third Party’ into a household name and a political force in a country that loves underdogs.”

National polls show Tea Parties to be more popular than either Republicans or Democrats; over 70% of the voting public aligned against big government; the highest number of voters calling themselves “independents” in history; and more voters wanting a third party alternative than at any time in modern political history. Yudin calls it, “an amazing alignment of the stars.” My Entertainment is betting that Root is in the right place, at the right time to strike political gold and create television magic.

My Entertainment and Root may be riding a wave with perfect timing. In both UK and Germany recently, third parties led by bigger-than-life leaders propelled their small, previously powerless parties to major party status and power-sharing roles in government. In UK, Nick Clegg became Deputy Prime Minister after a masterful TV debate performance. In Germany, Guido Westerwelle, a former star of “Big Brother” became Vice Chancellor of the country and Foreign Minister as reward for a power sharing agreement with Prime Minister Angela Merkel. Guido is a Wayne Root clone- a telegenic former TV star leading a smaller government party that is best described as libertarian (pro business, pro free markets, pro tax cuts, anti union, anti welfare, anti big government).

“Root has unbelievable energy,” says Yudin. “We expect our camera crews to be exhausted just trying to keep up with this amazing personality.” My Entertainment will be following Root as he runs his family of six — including four home-schooled children (the oldest Dakota is headed to Harvard); appears on national TV (FOX News, FOX Business, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC) and dozens of radio shows per week; hosts his own radio show; runs multiple businesses; serves as national spokesman for multiple companies; picks the point-spread winners of NFL football games for thousands of High Roller clients; and discusses sports gambling on radio stations across the country. That’s all just the backdrop to this unique story. The centerpiece of this reality show is combining all that with the day to day drama, dejection, determination, celebration, commitment, chutzpah, campaign strategy, and adrenaline rush of turning America’s Third Party into a political powerhouse will make for one heck of a TV reality show. The show is tentatively titled “W.A.R. Story!”

Root is a former TV anchor (for CNBC) and host (“King of Vegas” and “WinningEDGE”), now a FOX News regular guest, guest host of national radio shows, best-selling author, political commentator and columnist (Newsmax.com, the Las Vegas Review Journal, Whiskey & Gunpowder) and has made thousands of media appearances since becoming a Vice Presidential nominee.

Root describes himself as “a S.O.B. (son of a butcher), small businessman, home-school dad and citizen politician from the Wild West frontier state of Nevada- where the constitution bans taxes, welcomes guns, legalizes sin, and limits the time politicians can sit in their seats.” Root calls that combination “HEAVEN!” The foundation of Root’s platform is economic and personal freedom. Root is fiscally conservative, socially tolerant, and believes that following the Nevada model of smaller government, dramatically lower taxes and legalization of sin can save the U.S. economy and pay down the national debt. But most importantly, he understands politics is a combination of show business, salesmanship, and strategy. All of those traits will be showcased in this reality show- a combination of “Celebrity Apprentice” meets “American Idol” meets a real-life Robin Williams in “Man of the Year.”

My Entertainment has several hit shows on cable television- including “Pros and Joes” on Spike TV now entering it’s 5th season, and “Ghost Adventures” on Travel now entering it’s 3rd season. My Entertainment has produced shows for Travel, Lifetime, MTV, Spike, Oxygen, Food Network, FOX Family, Logo, IFC, and Nickelodean. Michael Yudin is Founder and CEO of My Entertainment.

97 thoughts on “Wayne Allyn Root gets reality show

  1. Nicholas Sarwark

    There’s a difference between (1) getting a reality show and (2) paying a camera crew to follow you around for the weekend to shoot footage that may be cobbled into a pilot of a show that may be pitched to networks that may be picked up.

    Whether this is more like 1 or 2 is left as an exercise for the reader.

  2. Joey G. Dauben | The Palmer Post

    Let’s see, I think Barry Cooper of NeverGetBusted.com pays his camera crew, so what’s the difference?

    Plus, Wayne Allyn Root is the only Libertarian in the history of the world (besides Ron Paul) who is able to get in a televised debate with his major-party cohorts.

    That right there is enough to support him for national chair and the 2012 nomination.

  3. paulie Post author

    Joey, what debate was that?

    Of course, numerous Libertarians have been in debates with major party opponents for office. But I can’t remember which ones Wayne has been in as a Libertarian candidate. Can you help with that?

  4. Nicholas Sarwark

    Plus, Wayne Allyn Root is the only Libertarian in the history of the world (besides Ron Paul) who is able to get in a televised debate with his major-party cohorts.

    Oh, really? I must have been sleeping during the Biden/Palin/Root debate.

  5. wolfefan

    Whatever his virtues or failings, I never thought I would see anyone compare Wayne Root’s lifestyle to that of a monk.

  6. John Jay Myers

    I wish I was sleeping through this press release.
    Good lord. The statements are almost word for word what Wayne says during our debates. So apparently he wrote the guys review.
    That’s just sad.

    Just how stupid are we?

  7. Joey G. Dauben | The Palmer Post

    who is able to get in a televised debate with his major-party cohorts.

    Who is able is the key phrase there. Of all the people who has a permanent media presence, Root is the only candidate from the LP that could conceivably score a presidential debate appearance.

    I meant to qualify that as “presidential” in before “debate.”

  8. Nicholas Sarwark

    Good lord. The statements are almost word for word what Wayne says during our debates. So apparently he wrote the guys review. That’s just sad.

    I listened to the MI debate between hancock and Root yesterday and the references to Clegg and Westerwelle are pretty much word-for-word from that.

    A little research on My Entertainment (aka MY-Tupelo Entertainment, Michael Yudin Entertainment, Tupelo Honey Productions) reveals that most of its work is branded production. They did a show called Tease that ran on Oxygen, designed to spotlight Jenny Craig. Their show King of Vegas on Spike was branded entertainment to sell Schick Quattro razors (full disclosure: I shave with a Quattro).

    If this isn’t a branded entertainment scheme paid for by Root or his campaign, I’ll be very surprised indeed.

  9. paulie Post author

    Who is able is the key phrase there. Of all the people who has a permanent media presence, Root is the only candidate from the LP that could conceivably score a presidential debate appearance.

    I’ll believe it when I see it.

  10. Thomas L. Knapp

    How many times has Root played the “I’m about to get a reality TV show” card?

    I recall at least once, maybe twice during the 2008 presidential campaign.

    I think he may have done it again in the run-up to his book release.

    And which “life,” other than the Munchkins and the Oompah Friggin’ Loompahs, is he “bigger” than?

  11. paulie Post author

    Wayne writes:


    FOX Business Network in 2008…Root, Gravel [who ran for the Democratic nomination before switching to Libertarian - P] and Barr were invited to debate live on national TV (certainly a first in LP history outside of CSpan at the actual LP convention). I pitched the idea to FOX and they agreed. Gravel and Root accepted and we debated live for 30 minutes on Fox Business- preempting all regular programming.

    [....]

    Please tell my detractors at IRP to stop exhibiting “wishful thinking” about my success. I don’t pay for ANY television publicity. My Entertainment Productions has numerous hit shows on TV- as it clearly states on the press release. They produce real programming–they produce “Pros and Joes” on Spike TV for the 5th season…and “Ghost Adventures” on Travel Channel for 3rd season. They are a reality TV production company. They are excited about a show built round my role as National Chairman turning the LP into a serious threat to GOP and Dems. I am not paying for any TV show. They are shooting a pilot for cable TV. There is no other way for my critics to spin the story. It is real. This is a tremendous opportunity to brand and build the LP into a household name. This is exactly what the LP has needed for 39 years.

  12. Thomas L. Knapp

    Dauben very specifically claimed that Root “is the only Libertarian in the history of the world (besides Ron Paul) who is able to get in a televised debate with his major-party cohorts.”

    Setting aside Dauben’s busted vocabulary (“cohorts” doesn’t mean what he seems to think it means), Barr and Gravel were not Root’s “major party” anything when he debated them. They were exactly like him — candidates for the Libertarian Party’s 2008 presidential nomination.

  13. Tony DiMare

    The TV Reality Shows were only put on TV because they were infomertials. His sports handicapping shows were also paid infomertials. Wayne Root is a clown!

  14. Andy

    “Setting aside Dauben’s busted vocabulary (‘cohorts’ doesn’t mean what he seems to think it means), Barr and Gravel were not Root’s “major party” anything when he debated them. They were exactly like him — candidates for the Libertarian Party’s 2008 presidential nomination.”

    Mary Ruwart, Steve Kubby, Michael Jingozian, and Christine Smith also debated Bob Barr and Mike Gravel.

  15. Andy

    Is this being announced now because it is a publicity stunt to help Root when the Chair’s race, or am I just being cynical?

  16. Steven R Linnabary

    On the bright side…

    …a show built round my role as National Chairman turning the LP into a serious threat to GOP and Dems.

    This is the FIRST TIME I’ve seen Root even mention the thought of being a “serious threat to the GOP”…

    PEACE

  17. Michael Seebeck

    Oh, goody, time to break out the tie-dye!

    a personal cameraman following around a candidate like a shadow for his own ends is the height of narcissism. Call it the “Hair Itch Project.”

    LNC-TV? The goings-on at LNC are so bizarre that it’ll never sell, because networks will think it’s all staged works, not real shoots. Hell, Vince McMahon couldn’t write some of our stuff–ask Glenn Jacobs or Sean Morely!

  18. Carolyn Marbry

    Steven @ 15: “So many shows to cancel, so little time. The man would smile telling you that you have cancer. Where are his viewers coming from?”

    Thanks for that, I’m now wearing my drink instead of drinking it. :-) Spot on.

    Great, so to put this in perspective, the Libertarian Party Show (dah dah dah dah dah) starring WAYNE! ALLYN! ROOT!! is going to put itself out on there in the public eye on the freak show circuit right alongside Tommy Lee and Bam Marghera. Hooray for media exposure!

    Those who were concerned about being taken seriously as a political party OR movement can rest easy. It’ll never happen while this idiocy is going on.

  19. George Phillies

    “Plus, Wayne Allyn Root is the only Libertarian in the history of the world (besides Ron Paul) who is able to get in a televised debate with his major-party cohorts. ”

    Apparently world history is not what it used to be. I had a dozen debates and joint appearances with my congressional opponents, two of which were rebroadcast coast to coast on national television (C-SPAN) in prime time the day before the election. Joe Kennedy did as well.

  20. Steven R Linnabary

    Apparently world history is not what it used to be.

    Well, we ARE talking about “Wayne’s World” here…lol

    But you sort of look forward to the “Rand Paul on Steroids” episode, don’t you?

    PEACE

  21. Susan Hogarth

    Paulie, how did this come to you?

    The first line is “My Entertainment Productions Announces…,” but I find no such announcement on their website’s PR page:

    http://www.myentertainment.tv/Press.html

    And Google only shows hits to this site and Wayne’s site. So if the notice came from Root’s campaign and ME won’t confirm, I think the headline (or entire story) needs to be changed or gotten rid of.

  22. paulie Post author

    Susan, it was an email from Wayne. I will change the post to reflect that fact.

    If you have any reason to believe, or suspicion, that he made it up, you are certainly welcome to contact My Entertainment Productions and make a followup post, and/or correct this one if they deny that it is accurate. You are still signed up to write here last time I checked, even though Trent took you off the “about” page because you have not posted in a really long time.

    Investigative journalism is always welcomed here, although by no means do I want to take the time to check every claim in every press release we get sent. I don’t even think professional journalists have time to do that, much less those of us who do it as a hobby.

    Unless/until you find out that there is some error in Wayne’s claims, please don’t alter this post, besides the addition that I will make that it was an email from Wayne. Thanks for pointing out that ommission, I’ll go add that now.

  23. Mik Robertson

    “Plus, Wayne Allyn Root is the only Libertarian in the history of the world (besides Ron Paul) who is able to get in a televised debate with his major-party cohorts. ”

    The last time Arlen Specter ran for Senate there was a televised debate that included R nominee Arlen Specter, Libertarian Nominee Betsy Summers, I think the D nominee was Joe Hoeffel, and the CP nominee Jim Clymer.

  24. Michael Seebeck

    “Wayne’s World”–there’s the camera disruption theme right there.

    And a Photoshop opportunity?

  25. David F. Nolan

    Truth is a concept alien to WAR’s mind. I don’t think he consciously lies; he just has no idea of what’s true and what is not. He makes stuff up, and later denies doing so. (And the comment @28 made me laugh!)

  26. volvoice

    …..It is moves like this that make me love Root as a candidate for public office……

    ROTF(Seriusly)LMAO!!…Isn’t it always the reformers hollerin all about how the radicals will make us all look crazy? WTF do they think a reality show with Wayne at the LP convention is going to do for our cause. The reformers should trust me on this one…..It is a bad, bad idea….still LMAO. This is going to be one fun convention.

  27. George Whitfield

    A reality show about the Libertarian National Convention. That sounds like fun. I wish I were going to be there. But I will be following it real closely!

  28. Tribunal Flicking

    LG@36:
    Mr. Wood’s link isn’t a USA Today Story. It is part of USA Today’s internet search engine result, and is a search page that lists IPR… It begs the question if a temporal paradox is created when Search engines reference each other.

    VV@38:
    I am in no, way, shape or form a reformer. But publicity hounding like this is what we need from flagship candidates. I see ideology and fairness as the prime requisites for Chair. Wayne strikes me as a man with a vision. I don’t want the chair to be a visionary. I want him or her to be someone who gives visionaries a framework to hang onto and yanks them into philosophic line when they blindly travel the road to the popular vote.

    This kind of move is politically dexterous. I just don’t think it is the right venue or position for this kind of exceptional talent.

  29. paulie Post author

    It is part of USA Today’s internet search engine result, and is a search page that lists IPR… It begs the question if a temporal paradox is created when Search engines reference each other.

    Paradoxes abound in life. For example

    or

  30. Brian Holtz

    Since Root is involved with the production company, we can be reasonably confident it won’t give the LP the kind of negative publicity one usually associates with reality TV. Still, Root is clearly not equipped to give the LP the sort of positive national TV exposure that another Chair candidate is so proud of being able to generate:

  31. Gene Trosper

    If anyone does NOT want to appear in the “show”, Do NOT sign a release form. If you DO sign a release form, the production company can basically use your image and voice in any manner they so choose, even if it is creative editing to make YOU look stupid.

  32. Carolyn Marbry

    That’s mostly true, although they can get around that by simply posting placards in the hotel lobby and in the room itself saying that if you enter this space, it is possible you may appear in a film or other media presentation blah blah. It’s how you do crowd scenes and documentaries when you don’t necessarily have perfect control over the comings and goings through the space. If they do that, it means anyone who doesn’t want to appear in his film is essentially (if voluntarily) barred from the convention.

  33. Danny S

    @4, Barry Cooper is done with Kopbusters after the police raided his home on trumped up charges (soon after his last police bust). One of his step-children was forced to live with his biological dad after the raid, which found a TINY amount of pot.

  34. David F. Nolan

    Well, hopefully, there will be lots of anti-WAR signs, t-shirts, buttons, etc. always in evidence wherever Wayne and his hired camera crew are filming. If they’re a legitimate outfit, there to do a story, they’ll take it all in. If they are simply WAR tools, he will try to get the “disruptive elements” removed and can probably be made to look like a fool.

    Fun times ahead!

  35. Michael H. Wilson

    Garth Algar: “Did you ever see that “Twilight Zone” where the guy signed a contract and they cut out his tongue and put it in a jar and it wouldn’t die, it just grew and pulsated and gave birth to baby tongues? Pretty cool, huh?”

    Just a thought.

  36. wolfefan

    I’m not a big Root fan for moral reasons, not political or tactical, and I’m not an LP member. Nevertheless, I think a show like this could be something very positive for the LP.

    It could easily expose viewers to a wide variety of LP viewpoints and let them see that the LP is not necessarily GOP-Lite vs. All Anarchy All the Time, but that there are shades of gray and places/issues where viewers will be able to plug in. It could provide significantly more exposure to local LP candidates, and would probably allow a more accessible and more positive view of the party than merely broadcasting the nominating convention on CSPAN.

    I understand the reluctance some have to fully trust Mr. Root. I hope people won’t let that keep them from embracing what could be a good chance for positive and educational media outreach.

  37. Gene Trosper

    @49 If they do that, then EVERY delegate should demand the production company (and WAR) refund the cost of registration and travel.

  38. Brian Holtz

    I suspect that spirited but civil libertarian debate won’t make for very good TV, so it could be that Root’s producers are counting on having some (edited) incivility and boorishness to contrast with Root’s own (edited) civility and reasonableness. So if there is any Seebeckian “camera disruption” available for filming, don’t be surprised if the production crew laps it up.

    As for “release forms”, since when do Libertarians believe that they have the right to control the photons that other people capture using their privately-owned camera equipment? If you want to own your photons, don’t spray them in my direction.

  39. Robert Milnes

    Mr. Root, I…yes, me, Robert Milnes, am embarassed for you. Please don’t proceed with this misadventure. No, wait. Like Tom saying fuck it to any further corrections of your typos, I say fuck it. Do this fool thing.
    Really people…Root is really expected to get a plurality, maybe even winning majority on the first ballot? He should get ZERO votes on the first ballot. Anybody who votes for Root is a moron.
    Brain on Hold @47,…nevermind.

  40. David F. Nolan

    @58 – “Anybody who votes for Root is a moron.”

    No. I’m not supporting Root, but it’s absurd to say that anyone who votes for him is a moron. Root’s supporters see his ability to generate media exposure as outweighing his somewhat shaky and compromised grasp of libertarian principles. Some of them even actually like his tepid version of libertarianism. This makes their judgment suspect, in my opinion, but it does not mean they are morons.

  41. Robert Milnes

    Susan Hogarth aka Party pooper, at 29. See 58. Don’t delete the story. This is the funnest thread in a long time! BTW, long time no see you here.
    Now maybe some investigative journalism is called for here. Esp. if it checks to see if any strings go from Root to Uncle Sam.

  42. Robert Milnes

    The Nolan, I ask you this: How much of Root’s ability to generate media exposure comes from behind The Curtain of the Great Oz-the GOP, The FBI, Homeland Security, NSA, oil interests, etc.?…
    Hint: he might just be a dupe & not even know.

  43. Jill Pyeatt

    So, what will the camera crew do if someone eles is elected chair? Now THAT would be good TV…

  44. wolfefan

    It seems strange to me that My Entertainment (link above @29) seems to have issued no press releases since 2008.

  45. Gene Trosper

    @57 Remember that argument next time some pervert wants to take pictures of your children.

  46. Michael Seebeck

    “Seebeckian”?

    Wow, I haven’t heard that level of pathetic since junior high school. I think that guy either wound up in prison or got a job with someone else’s name on his shirt. Or maybe it was a job in prison with someone else’s name on his shirt…

    As for camera disruption, Root gets the monopoly on that one by simply showing up.

    Frankly, the better way is to have every last delegate filmed demand royalties, as well as the LPUS. If Root is as successful at making money off of things as he brags he is, then this should be a runaway hit and we all should get our piece of the action. Otherwise, he’s simply using the convention as his extras and being an extra to him is insulting and beneath almost all of the delegates.

  47. What About Property Rights?

    Carolyn Marbry: “they can get around that by simply posting placards in the hotel lobby and in the room itself saying that if you enter this space, it is possible you may appear in a film or other media presentation blah blah,”

    Only if the property owner agrees to those signs.

    Brian Holtz: “As for “release forms”, since when do Libertarians believe that they have the right to control the photons that other people capture using their privately-owned camera equipment?…”

    Depends on whose private property your photons are on. That’s Basic Libertarianism 101.

    It’s a libertarian principle that you can’t film (or do anything) on other people’s private property, without their permission.

    The issue boils down to — who owns the property of the convention area?

    The hotel owns it, but has leased it, to some extent, to the LP.

    So the hotel or the LP determines how that property will be used.

    So technically, Root’s team cannot film without permission of the relevant above entity.

  48. Michael Seebeck

    Or we could make it really, really fun and move the entire convention into Executive Session and bar the doors and toss out the cameras and really have fun behind closed doors!

    See, the vast conspiracy is now revealed to all: the California Convention was a simple dress rehearsal to refine tactics to implement The Master Plan at St. Louis. Phase 2 goes into effect when we totally change the schedule around without telling anyone, including the dress rehearsal of having Bylaws and Platform committee meetings on Friday without telling the members, and we’ll implement our full plan to postpone the elections until May 32nd when everyone has gone home because they couldn’t get in because we barred the doors for Executive Session and never adjourned and blew the Treasury on catered food brought in and (takes deep breath) we did it all just to piss off Brian Holtz because everyone needs a hobby! :-P

    End snarkasm (TM, me) and on to St. Louis.

  49. Andy

    Root’s team or whoever else is going to attend the event should be able to film. It is news gathering. The venue has been rented by the Libertarian Party and all Libertarian Party members are invivted.

  50. Michael Seebeck

    BTW, that last one is funnier if it’s rapidly read aloud in the enthusiastic lil’-kid-worshiping-the-big-kid-golly-gee-whiz-he’s-my-hero voice

  51. Thomas L. Knapp

    “technically, Root’s team cannot film without permission of the relevant above entity.”

    I suppose it’s true that the LNC could refuse “press credentials” to Root’s camera crew, or that the delegates could pass a motion to expel said crew, or whatever.

    That would be a very bad idea, if for no other reason than that if Wayne Allyn Root/My Entertainment Productions aren’t allowed to film the convention, it’s only fair that Blogger X with his laptop webcam also be forbidden, that the press be barred from all convention areas, etc.

  52. Tom Blanton

    Once America sees how Tea Party leader Wayne Root can walk on water and turn ordinary horse shit into tasty bullshit, he will be elected President in 2012.

    The syndicated television program, The Reality of W.A.R., will run for 12 seasons and be shown on all networks several times every day. Every American will become a libertarian and for the first time in America’s history, there will be poker machines, tax cuts and guns in every church.

    This is bigger than life. This is the reality show that the LP has needed for 30 years!
    ————————
    Wayne’s World III: coming soon to a political theater near you.

  53. Brian Holtz

    So technically, Root’s team cannot film without permission of the relevant above entity.

    No. Technically, what is not forbidden (and is not force initiation) is permitted. That is Libertarianism 100.

    next time some pervert wants to take pictures of your children.

    When my kids are out in public, anyone is free to take pictures of them. Sorry, but your ability to generate a light cone does not give you the right to control all cameras within it.

    Release forms for using my private property? Royalties for saving the photons you send me? FEC criminal complaints? Can someone direct me to where the Libertarian convention is being held? I think I booked my flight to the wrong city….

  54. What About Property Rights?

    Brian Holtz: “No. Technically, what is not forbidden (and is not force initiation) is permitted.

    Gee, I thought trespass (which includes doing an act on private property that is forbidden by the owner) was initiation of force?

    Holtz: “When my kids are out in public…”

    A hotel is private property, not public property. But surely you know that?

    I’m not saying the hotel or LP should or should not permit Root to film. I’m only observing, in response to Carolyn’s remark, that putting up placards is not enough. The property owner must allow the filming.

    The owner can even set permission somewhere in the middle — i.e., permit news filming, but no commercial exploitation without a release form.

    As on COPS, some people may wish to have their faces blurred on TV, rather be seen in Root’s presence, on his freak show.

    I don’t know whether Holtz’s obtuseness is intentional or innocent. But to repeat, it is the property owner who decides what’s permitted on his property. Otherwise it is initiation of force.

  55. Carolyn Marbry

    My comment was specifically about how filmmakers get around getting every single person to sign a waiver, not about universal permissions required to shoot there.

    Naturally, on private property, you need permission to film from whoever is custodian of the premises. In this case, were I filming, I’d have a binder with written permissions from the corporation that owns the hotel, the manager of the day and the LNC to film. THEN I would set out signs to warn people that by entering the fixed area (that’s very important, the area has to be clearly delineated), they are giving consent to be filmed.

    On the film I produced, I had licenses for each and every piece of music we used, permissions from all the owners of any locations we filmed, even if we just drove past them in a shot, which was interesting because we had a scene that involved running down an alleyway between a bunch of houses, and the easements weren’t obvious, so we got the owners to sign off anyway, just in case. We also had permission from the city and county, waivers from all the actors and even waivers from the extras — we didn’t use the signs because our locations were very controlled — all in a binder which was later sent off to the executive producer along with the finished film and other paperwork. And he STILL asked me to sign off on a piece of music that was public domain, stating that I was responsible if for some reason copyright law still protected this music from 1896 or so. *Sigh*

    My point in all this is, producers tend to be extremely careful about this stuff because lawsuits are very expensive.

    Sure, Libertarians aren’t likely to bring a lawsuit for using their images without permission. Then again…

  56. Root's Shoot

    I also recommend that delegates arrive armed with their own video cameras.

    If you see Root and his crew approaching you, pull out your camera and film Root if he interacts with you.

    That way, the delegate will have a copy of the entire conversation, making it hard for Root to take things out of context. If Root deletes his gaffes, while making the delegate look foolish, said delegate can post the entire conversation on YouTube.

    EVERY delegate should be armed with a video camera at all times, ready to aim at Root and crew whenever they approach. It’ll give Root an incentive to edit honestly.

  57. paulie Post author

    LOL. There will be cameras all over the place, folks. The hotel is well aware of this and are allowing the LP to manage the film crews as long as they generally film within the areas the LP is renting out. If you are camera shy it’s probably not a good idea to go anywhere near the place. But bringing your own camera is a good idea if you can swing it.

  58. Brian Holtz

    BH: “No. Technically, what is not forbidden (and is not force initiation) is permitted.”

    WAPR: Gee, I thought trespass (which includes doing an act on private property that is forbidden by the owner) was initiation of force?

    Learn to read. If the hotel expressly forbids filming, then filming is force initiation. Otherwise, not.

    The property owner must allow the filming.

    If they don’t explicitly disallow it, it’s allowed. When I make a cell phone call from the hotel, I’m broadcasting the voice of anyone standing near me. So to make a cell phone call, do I need to get a release form from them, and from the hotel too?

    On the film I produced, I had licenses for each and every piece of music we used,

    You probably also complied with minimum wage laws — all of which has zero to do with whether actual force initiation is happening.

    As on COPS, some people may wish to have their faces blurred on TV

    You always have an individual right not to be defamed. But when you are out in public — i.e. in a place where the property owner has not expressly forbidden the use of cameras — then you don’t have an individual right to veto the commercial use of the photons you emit.

    The law (http://www.simslaw.com/model/model_releases.htm) says otherwise, but the law is wrong. Libertarians should know the difference between what’s currently illegal and what ought to be illegal. Sigh.

  59. Nate

    “In Germany, Guido Westerwelle, a former star of “Big Brother” became Vice Chancellor of the country and Foreign Minister as reward for a power sharing agreement with Prime Minister Angela Merkel.”

    He was a *guest* on the show *once*. He was a guest *because* he was chairman of the FDP, one of the five Parties then in government (they were part of the opposition then).

    “Guido is a Wayne Root clone- a telegenic former TV star leading a smaller government party that is best described as libertarian (pro business, pro free markets, pro tax cuts, anti union, anti welfare, anti big government).”

    Again, he is nowhere close to being a “former TV star.” For that matter, he’s a *gasp* lawyer; and a *even bigger gasp* career politician since at least 1996 (when he became a member of the federal Bundestag), possibly 1980 (when he first joined the FDP).

    Also, while the FDP *is* probably best described as libertarian (actually “liberal” is a better word, but we Americans misuse and/or hate that word), it is interesting to note that none of the civil libertarian views the FDP has were mentioned.

  60. Tony DiMare

    Wayne Root is a legend in his own mind. Even if he knows he’s not telling the truth he tells himself so many times whet he’s doing is right and just acts like his opinion or statement is fact.

  61. Susan Hogarth

    It seems evident that this PR (which, by the way, seems to have been written only for, or picked up only by, IPR) was written by Wayne or his people, as it has all of his key talking points and breathless style. Also, I can’t see a company issuing a release and getting their own company’s name wrong:

    “My Entertainment Productions announced…”

    The company is obviously named after its founder, Michael Yudin, and consequently is called “MY Entertainment”. I can’t see someone actually working for the company making that mistake repeatedly throughout a press release, even give the generally mediocre quality of writing at their website. And in fact, I don’t see the word “Productions” anywhere in their name on their site(s).

    Hype is one thing, but misleading statements are another. The headline of this piece is still entirely wrong.

    I will resist correcting the purely grammatical errors in this PR, except to note that “it’s” is not the possessive form.

    Whatever happened to Root’s radio show?

  62. Thomas L. Knapp

    Susan,

    The possessive form error also appears on MY Entertainment’s site (see the “about us” page), so it’s possible that the release was in fact written in-house rather than by Root’s people.

    Of course, I suppose it’s also possible that Root’s people wrote MY Entertainment’s web site copy ;-)

  63. Susan Hogarth

    Happens, but not consistently. But they do make the same mistake with “it’s”. But this textual analysis is probably silly. I just see no evidence that the company actually issued the release, although Yudin may have authorized such an issue.

  64. Jill Pyeatt

    Wayne had to have written the press release. It’s too over-the-top for a polished TV professional to have written.

    I will give Wayne credit for being highly interesting, and, of course, amusing.

  65. Tony DiMare

    I love the line in the press release where Wayne Root describes himself as, “Bigger Than Life”. He is one egotistical bastard.

  66. Michael H. Wilson

    What to me is real interesting is the time of the first comment, 3:21. Then at 5:06 paulie post an email from Wayne.

    Someone was keeping an eye on IPR.

    Re #4 Gene Nanni was in the debate with his R & D competition in 1996 in Oregon for the U.S. Senate race.

  67. Andrew

    A Note From Ernest Hancock to LP National Delegates
    (BTW – I am writing from a small caravan going to St. Louis and we are east of Gallup, New Mexico on I-40 right now, 10:00pm Wednesday. We plan on driving straight through so that we are at the hotel in time for the Suns/Lakers game Thursday night)

    Those that know me, and others that have witnessed my previous efforts, likely understand why I do the things that I do and what I aim to accomplish in St. Louis.

    Very soon (if not already) the vast majority of Americans (along with the rest of the planet) will come to the realization that they are all victims of the largest swindle/robbery in human history,… and they will be searching for an accurate explanation. Libertarianism provides a very useful road map to what happened, who/what was responsible and how to avoid the same mistakes in the future. But ‘off ramps’ to detours that take us meandering through the same unprincipled wilderness that got us in this mess will be of no use to a ‘Generation Next’ that has a detailed 3D online map in their hip pocket.

    This decentralization of information is only beginning to be felt by a liberty starved planet and attempts to negotiate our principles for a place at the establishment’s media table will backfire just as it did in the 2008 presidential election cycle.

    Another election cycle of LPUS’ documented compromises on libertarian principle will make it very unlikely, as a political party, we’ll legitimately be able to compete at a national level in the future as a standard bearer for libertarianism. I am of the opinion that information availability is so ubiquitous now, that the ‘Liberty Nexus’ that was the best trait of the LPUS will be replaced by too many sources of contacts and information to keep track of. Politics is about to be replaced with communities that will attempt to create the freedom denied them by layers of government,… without asking permission.

    What if I really really believe that the future will have fresh young minds embracing libertarianism as the only consistent and understandable path to peace and prosperity? Then positioning ourselves so that we are the obvious destination for those seeking exactly what we offer is a very good idea. Since many (enough) that I associate with are also of this opinion, we chose to make our advocacy of no-compromise libertarianism a blazing torch everywhere possible.

    In the near future, freedom communities will likely be virtual and without borders or boundaries. Governments, states, countries and even languages will have less and less to do with an individual’s interactions than a simple listing on the contemporary cousin of craigslist with servers based in orbit or on the Moon.

    Libertarianism is ‘the philosophy for the stars’ and to think in smaller terms is an abandonment of the future for the LPUS. The future is why St. Louis is so important to many that support my effort. The economic tragedy coming, that is only in the early stages, provides a rare opportunity to help many millions,… not just when they need it the most, but when they are also seeking it the most. And they have already abandoned the ‘lame-stream media,… the media that is soooo last century’ in search of the truth.

    We have done our best to make our advocacy clear, and our long track record of principled activism has accomplished several things; government abuses of individual rights have been exposed while branding us as defenders of individual freedom, available resources in support of such advocacy are directed towards the most effective uses of those resources, inspiration of an entirely new generation of freedom activists have been continually nurtured.

    I am prepared and eager to represent the future and inspire a flood of fresh and energetic activists, that are already experienced and networked with each other, to come and make use of the Libertarian Party at a national/international level to free as many minds as possible in as short a time as possible to save as many lives as possible. But should the LPUS’ words/silence and actions/inactions allow the perception of it being less effective a tool as the many others available, then it will continue to wither.

    My documenting of all LNC chair debates and appearances across the country of every candidate participating has been a deliberate act of making it very clear to future freedom activists that the choice in St Louis was a fully informed one. These documented discussions will be of much greater importance months, years and even decades later to those needing to determine where and how best to direct their time and resources to expand human freedom. I’m working very hard to make that investment the Libertarian Party of the United States.

  68. Carol Moore

    Notice that Root did not get ANY independent or mainstream media from his convention attendance or running for chair. Between first and second ballot, looks like the big blowhard is going down in flames. Now I WANT to see the Pilot. Ho HO HO

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