Comments on: Maine Green Party Will Have no Candidate for Governor http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/03/maine-green-party-will-have-no-candidate-for-governor/ Covering America's third parties and independent candidates since May 2008 Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:04:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sam http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/03/maine-green-party-will-have-no-candidate-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-210096 Sam Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:29:15 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=13778#comment-210096 As a registered Green who was never asked for his signature, his opinion, or a donation, I'm not surprised Williams didn't get on the ballot. We'll never make headway if we don't ask the party faithful. As a registered Green who was never asked for his signature, his opinion, or a donation, I’m not surprised Williams didn’t get on the ballot. We’ll never make headway if we don’t ask the party faithful.

]]> By: VAGreen http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/03/maine-green-party-will-have-no-candidate-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-172821 VAGreen Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:40:36 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=13778#comment-172821 "Buh Bye Green Party. You were a noble experiment but fell on the sword of “lesser evilism” “safe states” “Pat don’t vote for me LaMarche” “only run small local races that do not threaten or make the Democrats angry” kind of thinking. We tried to warn you. Hell all of us “dissidents” told you all that this would happen." Yawn. The National Party repudiated "safe states" in 2007, but your little faction insisted on falsely attacking them as Demo-Greens anyway. Pat LaMarche got ballot status for the Green Party twice (in 1998 and 2006), which is far more than can be said for ANY of the crowd that is still attacking her more than five years after then 2004 election. As for Maine, they are running 18 candidates for state legislature. Lynne Williams could have gotten on the ballot if all she needed was 2,000 signatures from all registered voters in Maine, but she needed 2,000 signatures from registered Greens (a much smaller pool of voters). Attacking the Greens is what you do because you can't build your own party. “Buh Bye Green Party. You were a noble experiment but fell on the sword of “lesser evilism” “safe states” “Pat don’t vote for me LaMarche” “only run small local races that do not threaten or make the Democrats angry” kind of thinking. We tried to warn you. Hell all of us “dissidents” told you all that this would happen.”

Yawn. The National Party repudiated “safe states” in 2007, but your little faction insisted on falsely attacking them as Demo-Greens anyway. Pat LaMarche got ballot status for the Green Party twice (in 1998 and 2006), which is far more than can be said for ANY of the crowd that is still attacking her more than five years after then 2004 election.

As for Maine, they are running 18 candidates for state legislature. Lynne Williams could have gotten on the ballot if all she needed was 2,000 signatures from all registered voters in Maine, but she needed 2,000 signatures from registered Greens (a much smaller pool of voters).

Attacking the Greens is what you do because you can’t build your own party.

]]> By: Work on it folks .......... via Don Lake http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/03/maine-green-party-will-have-no-candidate-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-171959 Work on it folks .......... via Don Lake Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:53:23 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=13778#comment-171959 ............ well considering that Green Party fan is not even a member of the green party ........ ………… well considering that Green Party fan is not even a member of the green party ……..

]]> By: The Last Conservative http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/03/maine-green-party-will-have-no-candidate-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-171958 The Last Conservative Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:49:50 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=13778#comment-171958 Kavlan, I'm looking forward to how depressed you'll continue to be as your new progressive party fails. However, I give you a lot of credit for your hilarious takedown of the eternal optimist, Green Party Fan. Kavlan, I’m looking forward to how depressed you’ll continue to be as your new progressive party fails. However, I give you a lot of credit for your hilarious takedown of the eternal optimist, Green Party Fan.

]]> By: Work on it folks .......... via Don Lake http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/03/maine-green-party-will-have-no-candidate-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-171890 Work on it folks .......... via Don Lake Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:17:11 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=13778#comment-171890 Us too: Citizens For A Better Veterans Home! Us too: Citizens For A Better Veterans Home!

]]> By: Michael Cavlan RN http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/03/maine-green-party-will-have-no-candidate-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-171869 Michael Cavlan RN Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:38:08 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=13778#comment-171869 Sigh Why even bother.. Despite the feel nice, happy face, good ship lolly pop denial of the horific reality shown by some here (yes Green Party Fan, I mean you) it's over. Buh Bye Green Party. You were a noble experiment but fell on the sword of "lesser evilism" "safe states" "Pat don't vote for me LaMarche" "only run small local races that do not threaten or make the Democrats angry" kind of thinking. We tried to warn you. Hell all of us "dissidents" told you all that this would happen. Oh well, carry on Building and organizing a real, honest, unafraid oppposition to the rotten, corporate corrupted, pro-war two party system. Like we really mean it. Sigh

Why even bother..

Despite the feel nice, happy face, good ship lolly pop denial of the horific reality shown by some here (yes Green Party Fan, I mean you) it’s over.

Buh Bye Green Party. You were a noble experiment but fell on the sword of “lesser evilism” “safe states” “Pat don’t vote for me LaMarche” “only run small local races that do not threaten or make the Democrats angry” kind of thinking. We tried to warn you. Hell all of us “dissidents” told you all that this would happen.

Oh well, carry on

Building and organizing a real, honest, unafraid oppposition to the rotten, corporate corrupted, pro-war two party system. Like we really mean it.

]]> By: d.eris http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/03/maine-green-party-will-have-no-candidate-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-171857 d.eris Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:21:02 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=13778#comment-171857 It is too bad to have to give up on the effort, but Williams could have pushed for the primary write-in campaign. The fact that she didn't makes it seem like there could be some strategic calculus behind the move. Greens across the country have been going back and forth on whether to focus on executive or legislative races this year. I'd personally rather see emphasis on races they could "almost definitely win." It is too bad to have to give up on the effort, but Williams could have pushed for the primary write-in campaign. The fact that she didn’t makes it seem like there could be some strategic calculus behind the move. Greens across the country have been going back and forth on whether to focus on executive or legislative races this year. I’d personally rather see emphasis on races they could “almost definitely win.”

]]> By: Shawn Levasseur http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/03/maine-green-party-will-have-no-candidate-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-171776 Shawn Levasseur Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:34:58 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=13778#comment-171776 Actually, this is one reason why a 3rd party may NOT want ballot status. It's much easier to get a candidate on the November ballot without it for minor parties. You need twice as many signatures, but you can get them from ANY registered voter, not just ones registered in your party. You have more time to get the signatures, and you bypass the primary and go straight to the November ballot. I wouldn't say the ballot access laws are excessively complicated, just that there are trade offs when a small party gains ballot status. In my experience, Maine is probably a better state for 3rd parties and independants that most. Shawn L. -Rockland, Maine. Actually, this is one reason why a 3rd party may NOT want ballot status.

It’s much easier to get a candidate on the November ballot without it for minor parties. You need twice as many signatures, but you can get them from ANY registered voter, not just ones registered in your party.

You have more time to get the signatures, and you bypass the primary and go straight to the November ballot.

I wouldn’t say the ballot access laws are excessively complicated, just that there are trade offs when a small party gains ballot status.

In my experience, Maine is probably a better state for 3rd parties and independants that most.

Shawn L.
-Rockland, Maine.

]]> By: Imperial http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/03/maine-green-party-will-have-no-candidate-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-171749 Imperial Wed, 17 Mar 2010 06:38:14 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=13778#comment-171749 Ross has some good points for the Maine race. I think the big thing to take from this story is that Maine's ballot access laws are excessively complicated. Ross has some good points for the Maine race. I think the big thing to take from this story is that Maine’s ballot access laws are excessively complicated.

]]> By: Ross Levin http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/03/maine-green-party-will-have-no-candidate-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-171643 Ross Levin Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:52:47 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=13778#comment-171643 I don't know about that, Trent. Personally, I think it could turn out to be a wise decision. For one, campaign finance was made a lot harder to qualify for so Williams wouldn't have had that advantage. Also, like the Greens are saying, they'll be able to focus more attention (and God knows their resources are limited) on more winnable local races. And there's Eliot Cutler, an very well funded and seemingly well organized independent progressive running who might have taken away some of the Greens' voters. I don’t know about that, Trent. Personally, I think it could turn out to be a wise decision. For one, campaign finance was made a lot harder to qualify for so Williams wouldn’t have had that advantage. Also, like the Greens are saying, they’ll be able to focus more attention (and God knows their resources are limited) on more winnable local races. And there’s Eliot Cutler, an very well funded and seemingly well organized independent progressive running who might have taken away some of the Greens’ voters.

]]> By: Trent Hill http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/03/maine-green-party-will-have-no-candidate-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-171635 Trent Hill Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:32:29 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=13778#comment-171635 d.eris Crowded in the primary, maybe, but in the general the Greens would almost definitely run third. With how LaMarche did last time, I feel like they're really wasting a valuable opportunity here. d.eris

Crowded in the primary, maybe, but in the general the Greens would almost definitely run third. With how LaMarche did last time, I feel like they’re really wasting a valuable opportunity here.

]]> By: d.eris http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/03/maine-green-party-will-have-no-candidate-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-171622 d.eris Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:52:31 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=13778#comment-171622 "The party will concentrate on campaigning for its legislative nominees." Given the crowded field for governor in Maine, this might make more sense anyway. “The party will concentrate on campaigning for its legislative nominees.”

Given the crowded field for governor in Maine, this might make more sense anyway.

]]> By: Work on it folks .......... via Don Lake http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/03/maine-green-party-will-have-no-candidate-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-171608 Work on it folks .......... via Don Lake Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:07:19 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=13778#comment-171608 " ............ news also highlights what a gifted candidate for Governor Pat LaMarche was for the Green Independent Party of Maine" .........and yet, still, six years after Cobb's off the wall, agents provocateur hint of leaving Dems alone in 'safe states' statement, many, in and out of Green Land, HATE the Traitor from the Pine Tree State! ” ………… news also highlights what a gifted candidate for Governor Pat LaMarche was for the Green Independent Party of Maine” ………and yet, still, six years after Cobb’s off the wall, agents provocateur hint of leaving Dems alone in ‘safe states’ statement, many, in and out of Green Land, HATE the Traitor from the Pine Tree State!

]]> By: Green Party fan http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/03/maine-green-party-will-have-no-candidate-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-171602 Green Party fan Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:55:26 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=13778#comment-171602 Green Party does well in Columbia Appear to finish very well in capitol, Bogota http://www.colombianews.tv/news/31510-monday-tv-colombia-newscast Green Party does well in Columbia

Appear to finish very well in capitol, Bogota

http://www.colombianews.tv/news/31510-monday-tv-colombia-newscast

]]> By: Green Party fan http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/03/maine-green-party-will-have-no-candidate-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-171597 Green Party fan Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:40:47 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=13778#comment-171597 Re Green Party and French elections.. Social Democrats 30% Sarkozy conservatives 26% Green Party 13% Re Green Party and French elections..

Social Democrats 30%
Sarkozy conservatives 26%
Green Party 13%

]]> By: Green Party fan http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/03/maine-green-party-will-have-no-candidate-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-171596 Green Party fan Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:39:11 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=13778#comment-171596 ...other Green Party news... France had local elections last week, and the French Green Party continued to do very well.. Green Party was strong third place The country's green party, Europe Ecologie, consolidated its position as the third biggest bloc after scoring 13 percent, followed by the hard-right National Front of Jean-Marie Le Pen with almost 12 percent. http://euobserver.com/843/29677 …other Green Party news…

France had local elections last week, and the French Green Party continued to do very well..

Green Party was strong third place

The country’s green party, Europe Ecologie, consolidated its position as the third biggest bloc after scoring 13 percent, followed by the hard-right National Front of Jean-Marie Le Pen with almost 12 percent.

http://euobserver.com/843/29677

]]> By: Green Party fan http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/03/maine-green-party-will-have-no-candidate-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-171593 Green Party fan Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:30:35 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=13778#comment-171593 The positive Green Party news in this story is that in points out the overly difficult, and unreasonable hurdles to ballot access across the nation. This Green Party news also highlights what a gifted candidate for Governor Pat LaMarche was for the Green Independent Party of Maine. Thanks for the news. The positive Green Party news in this story is that in points out the overly difficult, and unreasonable hurdles to ballot access across the nation.

This Green Party news also highlights what a gifted candidate for Governor Pat LaMarche was for the Green Independent Party of Maine.

Thanks for the news.

]]> By: .......... via Don Lake http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/03/maine-green-party-will-have-no-candidate-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-171481 .......... via Don Lake Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:43:57 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=13778#comment-171481 Even with vonder kin 'Don't Vote For Me' verdant icon Patricia 'Traitor to all non Democans and all non Republicrats' LaMarshe 'practicing' journalism near by ??????????? Even with vonder kin ‘Don’t Vote For Me’ verdant icon Patricia ‘Traitor to all non Democans and all non Republicrats’ LaMarshe ‘practicing’ journalism near by ???????????

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