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	<title>Comments on: ‘Manhattan Madam’ after Libertarian nomination for NY Governor, faces nomination competition</title>
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		<title>By: Donald Trump To Actually Run For President &#124; Independent Political Report</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Trump To Actually Run For President &#124; Independent Political Report</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Roger Stone, the infamous New York political consultant who advised Kristin Davis&#8217; gubernatorial run in 2010, may have been surprised by the quick time frame  of the decision. He told POLITICO in a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@54 Wow, thanks. How is party membership and county affiliate recognition determined?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@54 Wow, thanks. How is party membership and county affiliate recognition determined?</p>
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		<title>By: William P. McMillen</title>
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		<dc:creator>William P. McMillen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph
State law requires organization on the county level and any county in which the membership is weak is subject to takeover by the predominate party in that county.  Purpose - cross endorsement, extra line on the ballot, and anyone seeking to run for office then pretty much has to go through the county chair or force a primary by gaining petition signatures.  Challenges within parties are often more bitter than those against minor parties.  
I would prefer a system in which the lines on the ballot do not belong to any party and that any designation of party or political support appear as secondary to the candidates name which could only appear once.  Discontinue the funding of political party primaries and record keeping for membership in a particular party should not be a government function.  All candidates seeking an office would have to meet the same requirement whether it be signatures, a filing fee or a combination of both.  Parties would still exist, and would probably try to unite behind a common candidate, but no person seeking office would owe their allegiance to party bosses.  
We can&#039;t play in that ballpark yet, but we can&#039;t clean up the political mess in the country, in the states, and in many of our counties and cities unless we realize and emphasize the need for separation of politics and state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph<br />
State law requires organization on the county level and any county in which the membership is weak is subject to takeover by the predominate party in that county.  Purpose &#8211; cross endorsement, extra line on the ballot, and anyone seeking to run for office then pretty much has to go through the county chair or force a primary by gaining petition signatures.  Challenges within parties are often more bitter than those against minor parties.<br />
I would prefer a system in which the lines on the ballot do not belong to any party and that any designation of party or political support appear as secondary to the candidates name which could only appear once.  Discontinue the funding of political party primaries and record keeping for membership in a particular party should not be a government function.  All candidates seeking an office would have to meet the same requirement whether it be signatures, a filing fee or a combination of both.  Parties would still exist, and would probably try to unite behind a common candidate, but no person seeking office would owe their allegiance to party bosses.<br />
We can&#8217;t play in that ballpark yet, but we can&#8217;t clean up the political mess in the country, in the states, and in many of our counties and cities unless we realize and emphasize the need for separation of politics and state.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@47, Hi William...
RE: &quot;Once ballot status is achieved, the state law concerning organization and administrative rules all but guarantee that they will be co-opted by one and sometimes both of the major parties. &quot;

What is the satae law problem, exactly? What would you suggest as the best way to organize and grow instead if you had your druthers? Or were starting the NYLP anew? Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@47, Hi William&#8230;<br />
RE: &#8220;Once ballot status is achieved, the state law concerning organization and administrative rules all but guarantee that they will be co-opted by one and sometimes both of the major parties. &#8221;</p>
<p>What is the satae law problem, exactly? What would you suggest as the best way to organize and grow instead if you had your druthers? Or were starting the NYLP anew? Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I’ve not lived in NY for a long time, but I seem to recall some allegations that d’Amato had mob connections, too.&lt;/i&gt;

Fuggedaboutit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’ve not lived in NY for a long time, but I seem to recall some allegations that d’Amato had mob connections, too.</i></p>
<p>Fuggedaboutit.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Capozzi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Capozzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, Bill, I&#039;m having a hard time tracking your conspiracy theory.  It WAS known that Stern was friendly with d&#039;Amato, as the Sen. was a frequent guest.

It sounds as if this is some sort of personal thing against you?  I can certainly imagine d&#039;Amato asking about who &quot;the other parties&quot; are running in an offhand way.  

I&#039;ve not lived in NY for a long time, but I seem to recall some allegations that d&#039;Amato had mob connections, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, Bill, I&#8217;m having a hard time tracking your conspiracy theory.  It WAS known that Stern was friendly with d&#8217;Amato, as the Sen. was a frequent guest.</p>
<p>It sounds as if this is some sort of personal thing against you?  I can certainly imagine d&#8217;Amato asking about who &#8220;the other parties&#8221; are running in an offhand way.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not lived in NY for a long time, but I seem to recall some allegations that d&#8217;Amato had mob connections, too.</p>
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		<title>By: William P. McMillen</title>
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		<dc:creator>William P. McMillen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert:
Al D&#039;amato kept abreast of Libertarian Party activities  and was well aware of the who the activist people were.  In 1982, he inquired of others in the accounting profession as to who I was running for state comptroller.  The person who told me this was one of major references whenever I was seeking new employment and he eventually became New York State Tax Commissioner under George Pataki.  He was an occasional card player in Al D&#039;amato&#039;s circle as was Howard Stern.
Connect the dots.  My friend was also outraged that we libertarians had quickly found a substitute in Bob Schultz after Howard Stern dropped out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert:<br />
Al D&#8217;amato kept abreast of Libertarian Party activities  and was well aware of the who the activist people were.  In 1982, he inquired of others in the accounting profession as to who I was running for state comptroller.  The person who told me this was one of major references whenever I was seeking new employment and he eventually became New York State Tax Commissioner under George Pataki.  He was an occasional card player in Al D&#8217;amato&#8217;s circle as was Howard Stern.<br />
Connect the dots.  My friend was also outraged that we libertarians had quickly found a substitute in Bob Schultz after Howard Stern dropped out.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Capozzi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Capozzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wmm:  With the encouragement of former Republican US Senator Al D’Amato, Howard Stern sought and obtained the nomination. Al D’Amato, one of the primary advocates for eventual Governor George Pataki wanted to disrupt the pesty libertarians and Howard Stern, as I publicly predicted the night before the nomination, withdrew his candidacy near the end of the petition drive. 

me:  Do you have evidence that this was d&#039;Amato and Pataki&#039;s motive?  It seems to be a HUGE stretch, since I don&#039;t recall the LPNY&#039;s candidate EVER being an issue in a statewide election.  Why would they waste their time with a mousenuts issue from a numbers perspective?  In NY, the GOP&#039;s perennial challenge is keeping the CP in line and reasonably satisfied, yes?

Stern introduced more people to the LP than any candidate we&#039;ve ever had, near as I can tell.  That few converted may be more of a reflection on the LP than Stern&#039;s prodigious outreach efforts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wmm:  With the encouragement of former Republican US Senator Al D’Amato, Howard Stern sought and obtained the nomination. Al D’Amato, one of the primary advocates for eventual Governor George Pataki wanted to disrupt the pesty libertarians and Howard Stern, as I publicly predicted the night before the nomination, withdrew his candidacy near the end of the petition drive. </p>
<p>me:  Do you have evidence that this was d&#8217;Amato and Pataki&#8217;s motive?  It seems to be a HUGE stretch, since I don&#8217;t recall the LPNY&#8217;s candidate EVER being an issue in a statewide election.  Why would they waste their time with a mousenuts issue from a numbers perspective?  In NY, the GOP&#8217;s perennial challenge is keeping the CP in line and reasonably satisfied, yes?</p>
<p>Stern introduced more people to the LP than any candidate we&#8217;ve ever had, near as I can tell.  That few converted may be more of a reflection on the LP than Stern&#8217;s prodigious outreach efforts.</p>
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		<title>By: Update on Warren Redlich for Governor &#124; Independent Political Report</title>
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		<dc:creator>Update on Warren Redlich for Governor &#124; Independent Political Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Davis is also running for the Libertarian nomination for Governor of New [...]</description>
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		<title>By: William P. McMillen</title>
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		<dc:creator>William P. McMillen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are we New York State Libertarians going to do with ballot status achieved by some gimmick.  Minor parties in New York State have a hard enough time maintaining their independence even if they are able to attract a committed following. Once ballot status is achieved, the state law concerning organization and administrative rules all but guarantee that they will be co-opted by one and sometimes both of the major parties.  Victory (50,000 votes) without structural organization would amount to a collosal defeat.  The goal of the campaign is and I hope continues to be to build a viable party and to use it as a means to influence people&#039;s understanding of what individual liberty entails and its benefits.
Kristin Davis may be a committed and attrative candidate, but prospective candidates need to be judged upon their motives.  Is she interested in building the Libertarian party, and if so; she should rid herself of the double dealing advisor.  She expresses support for a number of libertarian issues, but what does she know about the economy and the many state agencies and public authorities that are bankrupting New York State.
We remember the Howard Stern fiasco of 1994.  With the encouragement of former Republican US Senator Al D&#039;Amato, Howard Stern sought and obtained the nomination.  Al D&#039;Amato, one of the primary advocates for eventual Governor George Pataki wanted to disrupt the pesty libertarians and Howard Stern, as I publicly predicted the night before the nomination, withdrew his candidacy near the end of the petition drive.  Who is behind the efforts of Roger Stone?  It doesn&#039;t really matter, because his history indicates that he is not be trusted.  Evidence exists to suggest that his motives are merely to cause disarray for whoever he chooses to provide him with frivolous entertainment.  No, hopefully we in New York will not be fooled again.  Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are we New York State Libertarians going to do with ballot status achieved by some gimmick.  Minor parties in New York State have a hard enough time maintaining their independence even if they are able to attract a committed following. Once ballot status is achieved, the state law concerning organization and administrative rules all but guarantee that they will be co-opted by one and sometimes both of the major parties.  Victory (50,000 votes) without structural organization would amount to a collosal defeat.  The goal of the campaign is and I hope continues to be to build a viable party and to use it as a means to influence people&#8217;s understanding of what individual liberty entails and its benefits.<br />
Kristin Davis may be a committed and attrative candidate, but prospective candidates need to be judged upon their motives.  Is she interested in building the Libertarian party, and if so; she should rid herself of the double dealing advisor.  She expresses support for a number of libertarian issues, but what does she know about the economy and the many state agencies and public authorities that are bankrupting New York State.<br />
We remember the Howard Stern fiasco of 1994.  With the encouragement of former Republican US Senator Al D&#8217;Amato, Howard Stern sought and obtained the nomination.  Al D&#8217;Amato, one of the primary advocates for eventual Governor George Pataki wanted to disrupt the pesty libertarians and Howard Stern, as I publicly predicted the night before the nomination, withdrew his candidacy near the end of the petition drive.  Who is behind the efforts of Roger Stone?  It doesn&#8217;t really matter, because his history indicates that he is not be trusted.  Evidence exists to suggest that his motives are merely to cause disarray for whoever he chooses to provide him with frivolous entertainment.  No, hopefully we in New York will not be fooled again.  Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

My policies aren&#039;t, and weren&#039;t, in question when dealing with Mr. Root. Basic courtesy and politeness should be universal, methinks. I am not shocked to find you defending his aggressive rudeness, since you suffer from the same affliction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>My policies aren&#8217;t, and weren&#8217;t, in question when dealing with Mr. Root. Basic courtesy and politeness should be universal, methinks. I am not shocked to find you defending his aggressive rudeness, since you suffer from the same affliction.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Dondero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Dondero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Trent Hill:

Good for Wayne, badmouthing you.  You deserve it.  Offense fully intended.  Your views on foreign policy are absolutely revolting, vomit-enducing, and downright disgusting.  

I&#039;ll give you one thing though, you&#039;re not quite as bad an America-hater as Gene Berkman.  I guess you&#039;ve got that going for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Trent Hill:</p>
<p>Good for Wayne, badmouthing you.  You deserve it.  Offense fully intended.  Your views on foreign policy are absolutely revolting, vomit-enducing, and downright disgusting.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll give you one thing though, you&#8217;re not quite as bad an America-hater as Gene Berkman.  I guess you&#8217;ve got that going for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Dondero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Dondero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, one shouldn&#039;t put too much stock in what liberal-disguised as a &quot;libertarian&quot; Gene Berkman has to say.  He&#039;s not a Libertarian by any stretch.  He&#039;s a Far Leftist who has infiltrated our Libertarian movement.  The Libertarian Party is full of Gene Berkman types, who masquerade as Libertarians yet soil our good name with their Far Out Anti-American views.

If Berkman hates Wayne Root, that&#039;s a badge of honor for Root, and greatly boosts his solid LIBERTARIAN credentials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, one shouldn&#8217;t put too much stock in what liberal-disguised as a &#8220;libertarian&#8221; Gene Berkman has to say.  He&#8217;s not a Libertarian by any stretch.  He&#8217;s a Far Leftist who has infiltrated our Libertarian movement.  The Libertarian Party is full of Gene Berkman types, who masquerade as Libertarians yet soil our good name with their Far Out Anti-American views.</p>
<p>If Berkman hates Wayne Root, that&#8217;s a badge of honor for Root, and greatly boosts his solid LIBERTARIAN credentials.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Dondero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Dondero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warren, my friend, nothing will generate more publicity than the Hooker angle.  Lazio?  He&#039;s snoozeville.  Even if you ran an agressive campaign against him, people will still be interested in your fight with Kristin Davis 100 to 1.  Already she&#039;s generated a huge amount of major publicity on this.

And look to the South for an example of what&#039;s to come.  Look how much publicity Stormy Daniels supposed race against Sen. David Vitter in Louisiana has generated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren, my friend, nothing will generate more publicity than the Hooker angle.  Lazio?  He&#8217;s snoozeville.  Even if you ran an agressive campaign against him, people will still be interested in your fight with Kristin Davis 100 to 1.  Already she&#8217;s generated a huge amount of major publicity on this.</p>
<p>And look to the South for an example of what&#8217;s to come.  Look how much publicity Stormy Daniels supposed race against Sen. David Vitter in Louisiana has generated.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Berkman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene Berkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott @ 37 - registering as a Libertarian does not make Wayne Root a good spokesperson for libertarianism.

Mr Root confuses libertarianism with conservatism more often than any RLC libertarian I know, and all too often comes off as a bigot, and certainly as an opportunist whose main cause is Wayne Root.

Warren Redlich appears to be committed to personal and economic freedom, and has shown it in his campaigns and his legal work for the New York LP and for the Ron Paul campaign.

I think standards are needed in judging candidates, and not just looking at their affiliation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott @ 37 &#8211; registering as a Libertarian does not make Wayne Root a good spokesperson for libertarianism.</p>
<p>Mr Root confuses libertarianism with conservatism more often than any RLC libertarian I know, and all too often comes off as a bigot, and certainly as an opportunist whose main cause is Wayne Root.</p>
<p>Warren Redlich appears to be committed to personal and economic freedom, and has shown it in his campaigns and his legal work for the New York LP and for the Ron Paul campaign.</p>
<p>I think standards are needed in judging candidates, and not just looking at their affiliation.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Lieberman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Eric Sundwall // Feb 9, 2010 at 2:19 pm

The LPNY is not an official party in NY. You can try to enroll as one based in a 2003 court decision, but it is frequently not done or regarded. That would be a great lawsuit for the LNC to pursue or assist in. If Warren were to do that and attempt to try and win in an overwhelmingly Democratic district it would be going backwards . . .&quot;

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So you are saying that incumbent City Council members in Guilderland and New York City would not be allowed to re-register as Libertarians? 

I would not want to be the Registrar of Elections that had to say that to an Elected Official.
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&quot;You’re opinion (that publicity will generate necessary votes) has no basis in fact and lacks sound reasoning. 

   Eric Sundwall&quot;


I hope you don&#039;t *really*  mean that.   ALL political campaigns are exercises in generating as much publicity as possible.

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&quot;This discussion is necessary for the peanut gallery at IPR, but has extended my time too far already.

  Eric Sundwall&quot;


My proposal to Mr. Sundwall will be valid at least until the LP of NY Convention in April, and I might even re-offer the non-moot portions of it after that Convention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Eric Sundwall // Feb 9, 2010 at 2:19 pm</p>
<p>The LPNY is not an official party in NY. You can try to enroll as one based in a 2003 court decision, but it is frequently not done or regarded. That would be a great lawsuit for the LNC to pursue or assist in. If Warren were to do that and attempt to try and win in an overwhelmingly Democratic district it would be going backwards . . .&#8221;</p>
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<p>So you are saying that incumbent City Council members in Guilderland and New York City would not be allowed to re-register as Libertarians? </p>
<p>I would not want to be the Registrar of Elections that had to say that to an Elected Official.<br />
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&#8220;You’re opinion (that publicity will generate necessary votes) has no basis in fact and lacks sound reasoning. </p>
<p>   Eric Sundwall&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope you don&#8217;t *really*  mean that.   ALL political campaigns are exercises in generating as much publicity as possible.</p>
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<p>&#8220;This discussion is necessary for the peanut gallery at IPR, but has extended my time too far already.</p>
<p>  Eric Sundwall&#8221;</p>
<p>My proposal to Mr. Sundwall will be valid at least until the LP of NY Convention in April, and I might even re-offer the non-moot portions of it after that Convention.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Sundwall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Sundwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would further promote the candidacies of both Craig Bernt and David Andrew Gay for Assembly as Republicans and Libertarians. Until we get ballot access in NY, such fusions are politically reasonable and not completely ideologically incompatible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would further promote the candidacies of both Craig Bernt and David Andrew Gay for Assembly as Republicans and Libertarians. Until we get ballot access in NY, such fusions are politically reasonable and not completely ideologically incompatible.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Sundwall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Sundwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott - I don&#039;t gamble.  I take risks, perhaps. I&#039;ll just repeat my offer and let you hurl epitaphs and insinuations. Sorry it&#039;s come to this. I have great confidence in the candidate and the strategy, otherwise I would not have put it forward. 

I have been reviewing Root&#039;s book, but see no relevance to this discussion. The last 1/3 of the book could not maintain my attention and there was no need to continue. Read a great book about the Saratoga campaign instead. 

The Albany County Legislature would not be a good race for Warren.  Applying a poor paradigm to a specific situation seems incoherent in my estimation. 

The LPNY is not an official party in NY.  You can try to enroll as one based in a 2003 court decision, but it is frequently not done or regarded. That would be a great lawsuit for the LNC to pursue or assist in. If Warren were to do that and attempt to try and win in an overwhelmingly Democratic district it would be going backwards . . . 

You&#039;ve played the hand of the unwritten agenda Scott, thank you. You&#039;re opinion (that publicity will generate necessary votes) has no basis in fact and lacks sound reasoning. This discussion is necessary for the peanut gallery at IPR, but has extended my time too far already. 

I can be reached via phone or email, to interested parties. I&#039;ve made my case well enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott &#8211; I don&#8217;t gamble.  I take risks, perhaps. I&#8217;ll just repeat my offer and let you hurl epitaphs and insinuations. Sorry it&#8217;s come to this. I have great confidence in the candidate and the strategy, otherwise I would not have put it forward. </p>
<p>I have been reviewing Root&#8217;s book, but see no relevance to this discussion. The last 1/3 of the book could not maintain my attention and there was no need to continue. Read a great book about the Saratoga campaign instead. </p>
<p>The Albany County Legislature would not be a good race for Warren.  Applying a poor paradigm to a specific situation seems incoherent in my estimation. </p>
<p>The LPNY is not an official party in NY.  You can try to enroll as one based in a 2003 court decision, but it is frequently not done or regarded. That would be a great lawsuit for the LNC to pursue or assist in. If Warren were to do that and attempt to try and win in an overwhelmingly Democratic district it would be going backwards . . . </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve played the hand of the unwritten agenda Scott, thank you. You&#8217;re opinion (that publicity will generate necessary votes) has no basis in fact and lacks sound reasoning. This discussion is necessary for the peanut gallery at IPR, but has extended my time too far already. </p>
<p>I can be reached via phone or email, to interested parties. I&#8217;ve made my case well enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If that is the case, why is it okay for you to heavily promote Registered Republicans, but you love taking potshots at Wayne Root, who is registered to vote as a Libertarian?&quot;

To be fair, much of Root&#039;s opposition stems not from his non-radicalism, but from his abrasive attitude. I can say confidently that my website, IPR, has covered his various efforts more consistently than any other news source--this includes putting his name in the Google News filter about twice a week. Instead of polite thank yous or compliments about the website (which we recieve from many other candidates and parties)--Mr. Root has seen fit to be very rude to me and bad mouth my website elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If that is the case, why is it okay for you to heavily promote Registered Republicans, but you love taking potshots at Wayne Root, who is registered to vote as a Libertarian?&#8221;</p>
<p>To be fair, much of Root&#8217;s opposition stems not from his non-radicalism, but from his abrasive attitude. I can say confidently that my website, IPR, has covered his various efforts more consistently than any other news source&#8211;this includes putting his name in the Google News filter about twice a week. Instead of polite thank yous or compliments about the website (which we recieve from many other candidates and parties)&#8211;Mr. Root has seen fit to be very rude to me and bad mouth my website elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Lieberman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Eric Sundwall // Feb 9, 2010 at 12:20 pm 

&quot;I don’t gamble, but would be happy to make a donation to the LPCA with a promise for one to the LPNY from you.&quot;
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I take that as a no.  In other words, Mr. Redlich&#039;s own Campaign Manager is not confident enough in the campaign he is managing to make an easy $200 for his state Libertarian Party.
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&quot;Warren is already one of the highest elected officials in Albany County. Changing enrollments and running a go nowhere campaign would just be bizarre.
   Eric Sundwall&quot;

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I assume Mr. Sundwall is a proud LP Radical.  If that is the case, why is it okay for you to heavily promote Registered Republicans, but you love taking potshots at Wayne Root, who is registered to vote as a Libertarian?


Also - with no offense at all towards Mr. Redlich, he is on the City Council of a Town of 33,000.  That is very good, but most people consider becoming a part of the Legislature of a County of 300,000 to be an upgrade.  Or, he could run for County Executive, County District Attorney, or County Clerk.   Any of those offices would be a step up the political food chain.

Mr.  Sundwall, why are you willing to overlook a person&#039;s political party of registration when it is convenient for you to do so?

I repeat my premise - Mr. Redlich would make a fantastic Libertarian Elected Official.   Unfortunately for the LP, right now he is a fantastic Republican Elected Official.

And, IMO,  if Ms. Davis  is at least in the center of the libertarian quadrant on the Nolan Chart, so she is a libertarian in my non-Radical opinion, then she would be a guaranteed publicity generator and ballot -access retainer for your state Libertarian Party.

Please judge my comments on the basis of how much sense they make, given my attempt to be as factual as possible, instead of just dismissing them without using factual evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Eric Sundwall // Feb 9, 2010 at 12:20 pm </p>
<p>&#8220;I don’t gamble, but would be happy to make a donation to the LPCA with a promise for one to the LPNY from you.&#8221;<br />
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<p>I take that as a no.  In other words, Mr. Redlich&#8217;s own Campaign Manager is not confident enough in the campaign he is managing to make an easy $200 for his state Libertarian Party.<br />
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<p>&#8220;Warren is already one of the highest elected officials in Albany County. Changing enrollments and running a go nowhere campaign would just be bizarre.<br />
   Eric Sundwall&#8221;</p>
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<p>I assume Mr. Sundwall is a proud LP Radical.  If that is the case, why is it okay for you to heavily promote Registered Republicans, but you love taking potshots at Wayne Root, who is registered to vote as a Libertarian?</p>
<p>Also &#8211; with no offense at all towards Mr. Redlich, he is on the City Council of a Town of 33,000.  That is very good, but most people consider becoming a part of the Legislature of a County of 300,000 to be an upgrade.  Or, he could run for County Executive, County District Attorney, or County Clerk.   Any of those offices would be a step up the political food chain.</p>
<p>Mr.  Sundwall, why are you willing to overlook a person&#8217;s political party of registration when it is convenient for you to do so?</p>
<p>I repeat my premise &#8211; Mr. Redlich would make a fantastic Libertarian Elected Official.   Unfortunately for the LP, right now he is a fantastic Republican Elected Official.</p>
<p>And, IMO,  if Ms. Davis  is at least in the center of the libertarian quadrant on the Nolan Chart, so she is a libertarian in my non-Radical opinion, then she would be a guaranteed publicity generator and ballot -access retainer for your state Libertarian Party.</p>
<p>Please judge my comments on the basis of how much sense they make, given my attempt to be as factual as possible, instead of just dismissing them without using factual evidence.</p>
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