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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;I Like Mike&#8217;: Direct Democracy Meets &#8216;Reality&#8217; TV</title>
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		<title>By: tiradefaction</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/01/i-like-mike-direct-democracy-meets-reality-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-199039</link>
		<dc:creator>tiradefaction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 15:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As one of the few people who voted for Mike Gravel in my state&#039;s democratic primary, it&#039;s nice to see him back with something. I missed my regular Gravel fix. 

On the whole LP nomination run, it was pretty clear he wasn&#039;t a libertarian (not that I mind, neither am I really) in the LP sense, and simply was running in an chance to get on the ballot, and continue to run his campaign to spread word on the N4ID (also heard he was trying to raise more money to get out of debt from his democratic primary run, but that&#039;s unconfirmed). Honestly, I thought that the run was a mistake, I knew the libertarians would not be accepting of his platform, given the extreme anti tax/any government regulation/social program views of the right wing libertarian movement.  He&#039;s also when asked, said he no longer associates himself with any party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one of the few people who voted for Mike Gravel in my state&#8217;s democratic primary, it&#8217;s nice to see him back with something. I missed my regular Gravel fix. </p>
<p>On the whole LP nomination run, it was pretty clear he wasn&#8217;t a libertarian (not that I mind, neither am I really) in the LP sense, and simply was running in an chance to get on the ballot, and continue to run his campaign to spread word on the N4ID (also heard he was trying to raise more money to get out of debt from his democratic primary run, but that&#8217;s unconfirmed). Honestly, I thought that the run was a mistake, I knew the libertarians would not be accepting of his platform, given the extreme anti tax/any government regulation/social program views of the right wing libertarian movement.  He&#8217;s also when asked, said he no longer associates himself with any party.</p>
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		<title>By: john francis lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>john francis lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 12:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t sound like a dickhead at all yourself, Seán. You sound the height of rationality and forbearance.</description>
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		<title>By: Seán</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/01/i-like-mike-direct-democracy-meets-reality-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-191709</link>
		<dc:creator>Seán</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 06:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many dickheads more concerned about the definition of libertarian than about what&#039;s going on. Any fucking idiot who complains about socialized medicine is in fact a retard. Just ignore their insane horseshit and forget about their irrelevant stupid idiocy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many dickheads more concerned about the definition of libertarian than about what&#8217;s going on. Any fucking idiot who complains about socialized medicine is in fact a retard. Just ignore their insane horseshit and forget about their irrelevant stupid idiocy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Gooding</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Gooding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll def. be watching this.
Gravel is a genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll def. be watching this.<br />
Gravel is a genius.</p>
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		<title>By: Melty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, nothing interests Gravel more than being a spokesman for National Initiative. I think &quot;I Like Mike&quot; may be the best way he&#039;s come up with yet for doing that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, nothing interests Gravel more than being a spokesman for National Initiative. I think &#8220;I Like Mike&#8221; may be the best way he&#8217;s come up with yet for doing that.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven R Linnabary</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/01/i-like-mike-direct-democracy-meets-reality-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-151969</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven R Linnabary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly a Gravel/Barr ticket would have been ultimate for the LP.  But that&#039;s just a far off memory of a dream.

Personally, I am excited for the show.  I hope it does well.

Now that &quot;My President is Bartlett&quot; bumperstickers are mostly gone, will we soon see &quot;My President is Gravel&quot; bumperstickers in the future?

PEACE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly a Gravel/Barr ticket would have been ultimate for the LP.  But that&#8217;s just a far off memory of a dream.</p>
<p>Personally, I am excited for the show.  I hope it does well.</p>
<p>Now that &#8220;My President is Bartlett&#8221; bumperstickers are mostly gone, will we soon see &#8220;My President is Gravel&#8221; bumperstickers in the future?</p>
<p>PEACE</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny thing is I think Gravel&#039;s best shot of getting his views out there (NI4D) was being Nader&#039;s running mate.

I believe a Nader/Gravel ticket would have done a lot better than the ticket of Nader/Gonzalez for a few reasons. 

1) Gravel has some sort of personality compared to the very dry Ralph Nader, I have heard he isn&#039;t as dry as the mass media makes him sound.

2) The Gravel team already, with little to no Demoncratic backing, was able to raise up to 500k. 

3) Gravel already had a team of people in a few states and at the national level.

4) Gravel had previously debated Clinton and Obama which would have gained him some serious coverage during the end of the primaries and during October.

5) Gravel was a former Senator which would make the argument for a more fair three way debate easier.

Of course this all speculation, but if we are going to discuss how Gravel could have ran in 2008 that, to me , was the best option given.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny thing is I think Gravel&#8217;s best shot of getting his views out there (NI4D) was being Nader&#8217;s running mate.</p>
<p>I believe a Nader/Gravel ticket would have done a lot better than the ticket of Nader/Gonzalez for a few reasons. </p>
<p>1) Gravel has some sort of personality compared to the very dry Ralph Nader, I have heard he isn&#8217;t as dry as the mass media makes him sound.</p>
<p>2) The Gravel team already, with little to no Demoncratic backing, was able to raise up to 500k. </p>
<p>3) Gravel already had a team of people in a few states and at the national level.</p>
<p>4) Gravel had previously debated Clinton and Obama which would have gained him some serious coverage during the end of the primaries and during October.</p>
<p>5) Gravel was a former Senator which would make the argument for a more fair three way debate easier.</p>
<p>Of course this all speculation, but if we are going to discuss how Gravel could have ran in 2008 that, to me , was the best option given.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Milnes</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/01/i-like-mike-direct-democracy-meets-reality-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-151932</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Milnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Troll fuzz @5,  references to Ruwart as the LP&#039;s sweetheart are from libertarians as veneration not patronization. My criticism of her is not patronization. Do you see patronization everywhere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Troll fuzz @5,  references to Ruwart as the LP&#8217;s sweetheart are from libertarians as veneration not patronization. My criticism of her is not patronization. Do you see patronization everywhere?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Holtz</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/01/i-like-mike-direct-democracy-meets-reality-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-151770</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Holtz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard Barr stand up for the platform on TV after the nomination, but I never heard Gravel mention the platform ever. I do remember him getty quite testy under questioning from some Libertarians.  As soon as he was eliminated by the fourth ballot in Denver, Gravel seemed to disengage from the LP.  He did later sign up for at least one LPCA fundraising dinner, but his daughter went in his place, saying he wasn&#039;t feeling well. 

Gravel wasn&#039;t going to win the White House for the LP, but he could have been an effective spokesman for libertarianism -- if he wanted to.  However, he seemed more interested in being a spokesman for his National Initiative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard Barr stand up for the platform on TV after the nomination, but I never heard Gravel mention the platform ever. I do remember him getty quite testy under questioning from some Libertarians.  As soon as he was eliminated by the fourth ballot in Denver, Gravel seemed to disengage from the LP.  He did later sign up for at least one LPCA fundraising dinner, but his daughter went in his place, saying he wasn&#8217;t feeling well. </p>
<p>Gravel wasn&#8217;t going to win the White House for the LP, but he could have been an effective spokesman for libertarianism &#8212; if he wanted to.  However, he seemed more interested in being a spokesman for his National Initiative.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Levin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gravel has said he&#039;s pretty sure he&#039;s not running for office again.  He&#039;s working on projects like &quot;I Like Mike&quot; now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gravel has said he&#8217;s pretty sure he&#8217;s not running for office again.  He&#8217;s working on projects like &#8220;I Like Mike&#8221; now.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin Battenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin Battenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@12 Well, I agree that he was one of the better Senators during his day, and he is one of the few to truly fight against corruption, however, as a candidate I thought he was rather weak. I like Gravel, and would vote for him, but realistically, he did have a personality that would turn off some voters. I&#039;m sorry, but he isn&#039;t presidential. That doesn&#039;t mean that he isn&#039;t important to the cause, or shouldn&#039;t have a voice, but just like Root or Barr, or many other well known libertarians, perhaps it would be better to run in a election that is more local. He could run for senate again, or run for the House of Representatives. Much easier to campaign in a smaller locale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@12 Well, I agree that he was one of the better Senators during his day, and he is one of the few to truly fight against corruption, however, as a candidate I thought he was rather weak. I like Gravel, and would vote for him, but realistically, he did have a personality that would turn off some voters. I&#8217;m sorry, but he isn&#8217;t presidential. That doesn&#8217;t mean that he isn&#8217;t important to the cause, or shouldn&#8217;t have a voice, but just like Root or Barr, or many other well known libertarians, perhaps it would be better to run in a election that is more local. He could run for senate again, or run for the House of Representatives. Much easier to campaign in a smaller locale.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear LGirl: Would you like to buy a bridge? Gravel would swear to anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear LGirl: Would you like to buy a bridge? Gravel would swear to anything.</p>
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		<title>By: LibertarianGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>LibertarianGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gravel may not be the purest Libertarian , but he did something I didnt hear Barr or any other candidate do , he swore if he was nominated he would campaign on our platform and stick to it stringently.

I believed him when he promised that . Also , he has an actual history of standing up against the government and calling our corruption where he sees it . Plus he would have been a strong pull from the left , whereas the LP has almost exclusively drawn from the right for some time now. these are the reasons Necvada voted for him at convention.

having said that , there is NO WAY Barr is more Libertarian. Barr has actually denied people freedom and put them in cages for crimes that should never be crimes. Gravel has not. Sometimes you gotta step away from what people say and look at what they do .

Gravel would have made an excellent candidate and I hope he tries again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gravel may not be the purest Libertarian , but he did something I didnt hear Barr or any other candidate do , he swore if he was nominated he would campaign on our platform and stick to it stringently.</p>
<p>I believed him when he promised that . Also , he has an actual history of standing up against the government and calling our corruption where he sees it . Plus he would have been a strong pull from the left , whereas the LP has almost exclusively drawn from the right for some time now. these are the reasons Necvada voted for him at convention.</p>
<p>having said that , there is NO WAY Barr is more Libertarian. Barr has actually denied people freedom and put them in cages for crimes that should never be crimes. Gravel has not. Sometimes you gotta step away from what people say and look at what they do .</p>
<p>Gravel would have made an excellent candidate and I hope he tries again.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin Battenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin Battenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d argue that Gravel is more libertarian then Barr. Gravel is better on personal issues, but worse on economic issues then Barr, but on foreign policy is is much more of a non-interventionist then Barr. Also, he seems better able to run a campaign on a shoe string budget, and spend the money more wisely then his right leaning counterpart. 

Just because Gravel has some liberal instincts, doesn&#039;t mean that he is a liberal. I would argue that he is certainly more libertarian then Kucinich, who I also liked during the 2008 election. Anyone who is for peace and civil liberties can obtain my vote. 

No candidate will ever be perfect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d argue that Gravel is more libertarian then Barr. Gravel is better on personal issues, but worse on economic issues then Barr, but on foreign policy is is much more of a non-interventionist then Barr. Also, he seems better able to run a campaign on a shoe string budget, and spend the money more wisely then his right leaning counterpart. </p>
<p>Just because Gravel has some liberal instincts, doesn&#8217;t mean that he is a liberal. I would argue that he is certainly more libertarian then Kucinich, who I also liked during the 2008 election. Anyone who is for peace and civil liberties can obtain my vote. </p>
<p>No candidate will ever be perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Holtz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Holtz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s possible to spin Gravel&#039;s positions as libertarian, but he wasn&#039;t much interested in doing so.  When he announced, I wrote to his campaign:

&lt;i&gt; I originally thought you had no chance in the LP race when you announced your switch, as I had assumed you advocate socialized health care and socialized public schools.  Then I saw your videos on health care and education. Delegates will want to hear you emphasize competition, markets, and consumer choice.  A lot of us moderates favor vouchers as an improvement over the status quo, but LP radicals consider vouchers to be socialism.  Radicals also oppose pollution/carbon taxes, but we moderates are fighting to make the LP tolerant of such market-based policies.  Radicals oppose the FairTax, but many LP members and delegates are fans of it.  Most delegates will be skeptical of the National Initiative. The best spin would be to claim that it can be used to repeal old laws and not just write new laws.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s possible to spin Gravel&#8217;s positions as libertarian, but he wasn&#8217;t much interested in doing so.  When he announced, I wrote to his campaign:</p>
<p><i> I originally thought you had no chance in the LP race when you announced your switch, as I had assumed you advocate socialized health care and socialized public schools.  Then I saw your videos on health care and education. Delegates will want to hear you emphasize competition, markets, and consumer choice.  A lot of us moderates favor vouchers as an improvement over the status quo, but LP radicals consider vouchers to be socialism.  Radicals also oppose pollution/carbon taxes, but we moderates are fighting to make the LP tolerant of such market-based policies.  Radicals oppose the FairTax, but many LP members and delegates are fans of it.  Most delegates will be skeptical of the National Initiative. The best spin would be to claim that it can be used to repeal old laws and not just write new laws.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Vaughn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vaughn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any chance of actual politicians being guest stars? Like cabinet members. I&#039;m sure that if Gravel was elected he would have chose Kucinich for something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any chance of actual politicians being guest stars? Like cabinet members. I&#8217;m sure that if Gravel was elected he would have chose Kucinich for something.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with R. Cooper. There was nothing that was libertarian about Gravel&#039;s campaign. Barr may have an anti-libertarian past but at least he campaigned on mostly libertarian principles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with R. Cooper. There was nothing that was libertarian about Gravel&#8217;s campaign. Barr may have an anti-libertarian past but at least he campaigned on mostly libertarian principles.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d watch that show.  But in the script, was Gravel elected as a Libertarian or not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d watch that show.  But in the script, was Gravel elected as a Libertarian or not?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gravel is even less libertarian than Barr. It would be foolish to have nominated him.  Then the LP would have become another Reform Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gravel is even less libertarian than Barr. It would be foolish to have nominated him.  Then the LP would have become another Reform Party.</p>
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		<title>By: Troll Police</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troll Police</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Dr. Ruwart has a history of being patronized is not a valid reason to patronize her. This should be obvious to any authentic &quot;progressive&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Dr. Ruwart has a history of being patronized is not a valid reason to patronize her. This should be obvious to any authentic &#8220;progressive&#8221;.</p>
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