paulie] Not a problem as long as I get my cut of the money

——— entrepreneurship, entrepreneurship!

p] Not a problem as long as I get my cut of the money

My advice is to believe nothing he says without independent and trustworthy corroboration.

Paid membership in the LPO peaked in 1997 at several hundred after adoption of the Unified Membership Program, which I pushed for as Chair. Burke and his supporters have controlled the State Committee nearly every year since then. The last membership list I saw, just before Wes Wagner was elected Chair, had fewer than 200 names.

Burke is good at making himself look good to those who don’t look too closely. Look closer, please, before crediting his words.

“I agree with Trent , I got 1/3rd of the way thru and quit reading . Too long , too sarcastic , too stupid , and who gives a fuck .”

************ If Lib Grrl really believes in less government and better government may be she should get a mini skirt and some fish net panty hose and a spot on the side walk *********

“writing tip to the author , sarcasm is best used in just a few sentences to use it the entire piece is irritating and loses its punch , sorry.”

*********** May be Lib Grrl does not have the endurance and or the academic horse power to keep at it and keep from being irritated **********

[a] be more honest —— a lot more honest. Iffin ya gonna say ya gonna do some thing, especially if you are paid money for the same, do it instead of making excuses and or ducking the bill collector!

[b] out reach instead of daring folks to ally with you. Short of this, you can loan out Ed Tesslier and or Richard Rider as mobile sand paper applicators!

[c] connect [table ????] with moderate and or ‘liberal’ events or efforts, instead of complaining that every one sees you GOP Lite! [If the Foo shits ........... ]

[d] realize [Duh!] that military veterans groups are your anti government, anti war allies and a focal, sympathetic direction instead of folks to ‘shrugged off’

[e] act like you own propaganda instead of visitors from an other planet

[f] Libervention Debate Club ………. there is a real world out there folks and for almost four decades you have made next to no impact!

LPC Titanic. White Starr Lines.

‘Nuff said.

Ever been to Gitmo? Its kinda pretty as I recall.

Yes, Wagner and Burke have very different views of what happened and they both presented it to the party membership though newsletters, personal letters, DVD’s, and personal phone calls. All I know is that the LPO membership did stop supporting Burke, who was then Executive Director of the LPO , and did start supporting Wagner.

After Wagner was selected as Chair of the party, when the supports of Burke one by one resigned from the Party officer positions, I can attest that the party membership did increase, the donations increased and the financial accounting as well as the membership rosters where accurate for the first time in years.

At the end of the term, Wagner choose not to seek a second term as chair, suggesting that Libertarians should “govern themselves”. The idea that someone can be “King of the Libertarians” sort of smacks against what a Libertarian stands for, so Wagner and his associates choose to be Libertarians and advocated to abolish the offices, as is always a choice for all Libertarian members, and free themselves from the dependence of a central committee, to make choices for themselves and to engage politically as they themselves see fit.

However, why Burke says that Wagner and his associates did not finish the term is puzzling, they did finish their appointed term and simply choose to not run for election for a second term. Given that Burke was at the this annual Party business Convention where Wagner and his associates choose to not run for a second term, but instead choose recant a different story than what happened only brings to mind what other issues and occurrences Burke is choosing to recant differently than what actually happened.

What is also odd is that all of this is old history, nearly over two years ago. Why has it all come up now?

Guantanamo Bay?

Frankly I don’t give a rat’s ass what happens in the LPO any more but it is worth noting that much of the work done by Tonie Nathan, the LP’s first VP nominee, has been pissed away thanks to these games.

Kinda like California. Same bullshit station. Same bullshit tune. And in some cases same bullshit people like let’s have a convention off shore. It’ll be great fun boys and girls.