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	<title>Comments on: Update on Modern Whig Party state chapters: Florida, California, New York, Georgia</title>
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		<title>By: Conor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, I&#039;m the 14 year old and no I&#039;m not the Delaware State Chairman, anyone who would think that is crazy. That would be impossible. I&#039;m the Emerging Owl Chairman, the MWP youth group. 

Also Green Party Fan, Delaware is spelled, Delaware not &quot;Deleware&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, I&#8217;m the 14 year old and no I&#8217;m not the Delaware State Chairman, anyone who would think that is crazy. That would be impossible. I&#8217;m the Emerging Owl Chairman, the MWP youth group. </p>
<p>Also Green Party Fan, Delaware is spelled, Delaware not &#8220;Deleware&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: S L Crane</title>
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		<dc:creator>S L Crane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 00:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spoke with the Florida chairman for almost an hour recently and he said nothing off base with the MWP. Instead he said the FWP was focused on organizational form and substance rather than academic debates. When I read that they have college professor running a district I wanted to know more as a teacher myself.  I can see how the FWP would rub some in the MWP wrong as their chairman came across as a no nonsense business guy who has specific goals and deadlines. I took notes and heard him say many times  &quot;mutual tolerance&quot; &quot;get down to business&quot;, &quot;too small to fight over stupid stuff&quot;, &quot;it&#039;s all about the candidates&quot; and &quot;the people who don&#039;t have lobbyists&quot;.  When Truesdale talks he knows his stuff and rattles off historical Whig facts like a machine gun. There are also a lot more Whigs across the nation who found the timing and location of the near Christmas December convention difficult according to Truesdale.  He said they had 20 people scheduled to attend but pulled out after their candidates were polled and his board voted not to attend. He said he expects that as many as 200 would attend with sufficient notice for a meeting in the middle of the nation. I also got an ear full and education about political clubs, PACs, parties, and national committees and was told to listen to an audio online which I did. There is no doubt that the Florida people are committed and have spent a lot of time and money. I never once heard Truesdale say they would not support other &quot;Whig organizations&quot; but would take a &quot;wait and see&quot; approach due to issues that could taint what they are doing.  Money, membership, infighting, proper vetting, code of conduct are just a few of the notes I made as he rattled off reasons for staying on the sideline with the MWP.  

What I found online before and after the call is nothing more than a national movement with one state party that is moving faster than the rest. I think all these guys are on to something. The only really stupid thing is the name modern. I think they would do better by being just Whigs and returning phone calls.

Instinct tells me some of these Whigs have a real shot at sticking around this time if they get the leadership and money at the national level.

I say good luck and Godspeed mates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spoke with the Florida chairman for almost an hour recently and he said nothing off base with the MWP. Instead he said the FWP was focused on organizational form and substance rather than academic debates. When I read that they have college professor running a district I wanted to know more as a teacher myself.  I can see how the FWP would rub some in the MWP wrong as their chairman came across as a no nonsense business guy who has specific goals and deadlines. I took notes and heard him say many times  &#8220;mutual tolerance&#8221; &#8220;get down to business&#8221;, &#8220;too small to fight over stupid stuff&#8221;, &#8220;it&#8217;s all about the candidates&#8221; and &#8220;the people who don&#8217;t have lobbyists&#8221;.  When Truesdale talks he knows his stuff and rattles off historical Whig facts like a machine gun. There are also a lot more Whigs across the nation who found the timing and location of the near Christmas December convention difficult according to Truesdale.  He said they had 20 people scheduled to attend but pulled out after their candidates were polled and his board voted not to attend. He said he expects that as many as 200 would attend with sufficient notice for a meeting in the middle of the nation. I also got an ear full and education about political clubs, PACs, parties, and national committees and was told to listen to an audio online which I did. There is no doubt that the Florida people are committed and have spent a lot of time and money. I never once heard Truesdale say they would not support other &#8220;Whig organizations&#8221; but would take a &#8220;wait and see&#8221; approach due to issues that could taint what they are doing.  Money, membership, infighting, proper vetting, code of conduct are just a few of the notes I made as he rattled off reasons for staying on the sideline with the MWP.  </p>
<p>What I found online before and after the call is nothing more than a national movement with one state party that is moving faster than the rest. I think all these guys are on to something. The only really stupid thing is the name modern. I think they would do better by being just Whigs and returning phone calls.</p>
<p>Instinct tells me some of these Whigs have a real shot at sticking around this time if they get the leadership and money at the national level.</p>
<p>I say good luck and Godspeed mates.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Lake .......... A Couple More Paul Harvey Moments</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Lake .......... A Couple More Paul Harvey Moments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Third Party Revolution  // Dec 16, 2009 :

Regardless, I still consider the Florida Whigs to be part of the MWP.

Lake:   LOL at #11</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Third Party Revolution  // Dec 16, 2009 :</p>
<p>Regardless, I still consider the Florida Whigs to be part of the MWP.</p>
<p>Lake:   LOL at #11</p>
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		<title>By: Third Party Revolution</title>
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		<dc:creator>Third Party Revolution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL at #4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL at #4</p>
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		<title>By: Third Party Revolution</title>
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		<dc:creator>Third Party Revolution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless, I still consider the Florida Whigs to be part of the MWP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless, I still consider the Florida Whigs to be part of the MWP.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Lake .......... More Ex Officio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Lake .......... More Ex Officio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>paulie  // Dec 16, 2009:
&quot; [a] Want a “centrist” national party? It’s the Green Party!  -----The Green Party is not centrist.  [b] And the IGP is not the Green Party.&quot;

I do not know how you reached YOUR conclusion[s] but I got to the same place via months of personal interaction. We are either both very very wrong or very very correct!

Also, [c] the Whigs are Fake, same deal! I sent in a long detailed SPECIFIC pro veterans stand to replace the Democan/ Republicrat boiler plate steer manure. Months ago. No response!

Also sent in a San Diego County Registrar of Voters application all filled out and ready to mail [with instructions, a reply post card to my self, and notice that it was the original, not a copy, that if they did not mail (at county expense) my copy in, then I would not be a Whig registrant. It was a test and they failed! ]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paulie  // Dec 16, 2009:<br />
&#8221; [a] Want a “centrist” national party? It’s the Green Party!  &#8212;&#8211;The Green Party is not centrist.  [b] And the IGP is not the Green Party.&#8221;</p>
<p>I do not know how you reached YOUR conclusion[s] but I got to the same place via months of personal interaction. We are either both very very wrong or very very correct!</p>
<p>Also, [c] the Whigs are Fake, same deal! I sent in a long detailed SPECIFIC pro veterans stand to replace the Democan/ Republicrat boiler plate steer manure. Months ago. No response!</p>
<p>Also sent in a San Diego County Registrar of Voters application all filled out and ready to mail [with instructions, a reply post card to my self, and notice that it was the original, not a copy, that if they did not mail (at county expense) my copy in, then I would not be a Whig registrant. It was a test and they failed! ]</p>
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		<title>By: robbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for the people that keep harping on the size of the national meeting, you are barking up the wrong tree.  this was a national leadership meeting, i.e. only the leaders from the states were invited.  too bad that they do not have the extravagent slush funds and bribe money that the two other national parties have.  maybe they could have brought in more people.  fact of the matter is, they are not sitting around doing nothing.  they are ordinary citizens trying to bring some light back to washington and their own states.

i think, therefore I am a whig.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for the people that keep harping on the size of the national meeting, you are barking up the wrong tree.  this was a national leadership meeting, i.e. only the leaders from the states were invited.  too bad that they do not have the extravagent slush funds and bribe money that the two other national parties have.  maybe they could have brought in more people.  fact of the matter is, they are not sitting around doing nothing.  they are ordinary citizens trying to bring some light back to washington and their own states.</p>
<p>i think, therefore I am a whig.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Want a “centrist” national party? It’s the Green Party &lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Green Party is not centrist. And the IGP is not the Green Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Want a “centrist” national party? It’s the Green Party </p></blockquote>
<p>The Green Party is not centrist. And the IGP is not the Green Party.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s been said before here.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

By whom? You?



&lt;blockquote&gt;
And should be said again.

The Whigs are fake.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If the Whigs are fake, what&#039;s the Independent Green Party? How many people show up to your meetings?

As I recall, the person who kept saying &quot;Modern Whigs are fake&quot; used multiple screen names (just like the Independent Green Party, which was busted for it by Green Party Watch) and also employed some rather bigoted rhetoric against Jews and others. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s been said before here.</p></blockquote>
<p>By whom? You?</p>
<blockquote><p>
And should be said again.</p>
<p>The Whigs are fake.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>If the Whigs are fake, what&#8217;s the Independent Green Party? How many people show up to your meetings?</p>
<p>As I recall, the person who kept saying &#8220;Modern Whigs are fake&#8221; used multiple screen names (just like the Independent Green Party, which was busted for it by Green Party Watch) and also employed some rather bigoted rhetoric against Jews and others.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That’s the strength of the Catholic Trotskyist Party; it only has one member so it can’t split.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That’s the strength of the Catholic Trotskyist Party; it only has one member so it can’t split.</p></blockquote>
<p>LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Green Party fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Green Party fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been said before here.

And should be said again.

The Whigs are fake.

14 people show up for a the first &quot;National Party meeting&quot;.

Please do grow up...Oh Whigs have a 14 year old state chair in Deleware...

Want a &quot;centrist&quot; national party?  It&#039;s the Green Party 

An inclusive national party that has elected - that&#039;s ELECTED nationwide  progressives, leftists, centrists, even conservatives.

It&#039;s the Green Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been said before here.</p>
<p>And should be said again.</p>
<p>The Whigs are fake.</p>
<p>14 people show up for a the first &#8220;National Party meeting&#8221;.</p>
<p>Please do grow up&#8230;Oh Whigs have a 14 year old state chair in Deleware&#8230;</p>
<p>Want a &#8220;centrist&#8221; national party?  It&#8217;s the Green Party </p>
<p>An inclusive national party that has elected &#8211; that&#8217;s ELECTED nationwide  progressives, leftists, centrists, even conservatives.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the Green Party.</p>
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		<title>By: Catholic Trotskyist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catholic Trotskyist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Third party losers, parties have at least one split before even their first election. That&#039;s the strength of the Catholic Trotskyist Party; it only has one member so it can&#039;t split.

Yet its agenda is taking over the world almost as quickly as I predicted.

Praise be unt oIPR, the new Israel. AND THE NEW KING COMETH UPON THE MOUNT OF ZION, AND PEACE ON EARTH CAME THROUGH THE GLORIOUS SPIRIT OF THE PENETITENTAL FRIARS, AMEN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Third party losers, parties have at least one split before even their first election. That&#8217;s the strength of the Catholic Trotskyist Party; it only has one member so it can&#8217;t split.</p>
<p>Yet its agenda is taking over the world almost as quickly as I predicted.</p>
<p>Praise be unt oIPR, the new Israel. AND THE NEW KING COMETH UPON THE MOUNT OF ZION, AND PEACE ON EARTH CAME THROUGH THE GLORIOUS SPIRIT OF THE PENETITENTAL FRIARS, AMEN.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, what an info dump. Wish I had this when I did my own story on them. They just recently wrapped up their first national meeting, if I&#039;m correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, what an info dump. Wish I had this when I did my own story on them. They just recently wrapped up their first national meeting, if I&#8217;m correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned Whig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concerned Whig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see why the Florida Party broke from them. I just read an article that was written about the &quot;Big&quot; national meeting in D.C. last weekend and 14 people showed up. Then the former candidate from New Jersey and the NY Chair got on and attacked him for being honest. These so called national guys couldn&#039;t organise marbles in a bucket. 

How many times did they attack the Florida candidate from within the party. I even know of 4 blogs that were set up by the North Carolina chair and on in New York smearing Florida. Truth is that Florida is the only Whigs in the nation with candidates. 

They even have a 14 year old as Delawares state chair according to the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see why the Florida Party broke from them. I just read an article that was written about the &#8220;Big&#8221; national meeting in D.C. last weekend and 14 people showed up. Then the former candidate from New Jersey and the NY Chair got on and attacked him for being honest. These so called national guys couldn&#8217;t organise marbles in a bucket. </p>
<p>How many times did they attack the Florida candidate from within the party. I even know of 4 blogs that were set up by the North Carolina chair and on in New York smearing Florida. Truth is that Florida is the only Whigs in the nation with candidates. </p>
<p>They even have a 14 year old as Delawares state chair according to the article.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan Brykein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan Brykein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Far-right?  Paul McKain doesn&#039;t sound very far-right to me.  And I like &quot;Whig&quot; as a title better than &quot;Modern Whig.&quot;  Afterall, the Republican Party founded in the 1850s wasn&#039;t the &quot;Modern Republican Party.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Far-right?  Paul McKain doesn&#8217;t sound very far-right to me.  And I like &#8220;Whig&#8221; as a title better than &#8220;Modern Whig.&#8221;  Afterall, the Republican Party founded in the 1850s wasn&#8217;t the &#8220;Modern Republican Party.&#8221;</p>
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