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	<title>Comments on: LNC leak: &#8216;Mary Ruwart: Minority Report of the Donor Confidentiality Committee&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Michael H. Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/12/lnc-leak-mary-ruwart-minority-report-of-the-donor-confidentiality-committee/comment-page-1/#comment-144742</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael H. Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 03:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 16 Hats off to Brian for stepping up to the plate and clearing up a point or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 16 Hats off to Brian for stepping up to the plate and clearing up a point or two.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael H. Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/12/lnc-leak-mary-ruwart-minority-report-of-the-donor-confidentiality-committee/comment-page-1/#comment-144739</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael H. Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 03:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 7 &quot;From the source of the article, forwarded allegedly from LNC member Dan Karlan:

RONR specifically includes “Refraining from speaking adversely on a prior action not pending” as a key component of decorum, and by extension, speaking adversely on a prior action not pending is a breach of decorum. To the extent that this minority report specifically does that, the content of the minority report is inappropriate. (RONR also strenuously advises against the use of members’ names as much as possible, and this guidance is also violated extensively in the minority report.)&quot;

Mr Karlan may object but I think that it is important that the members of the party know how the LNC officers and representatives conduct themselves with regards to their position. Further more from the standpoint of an employer I want to know who is doing what and how. 

We need to remember that we should not be using the rules to hide the facts.

 An act of silence is an act of complicity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 7 &#8220;From the source of the article, forwarded allegedly from LNC member Dan Karlan:</p>
<p>RONR specifically includes “Refraining from speaking adversely on a prior action not pending” as a key component of decorum, and by extension, speaking adversely on a prior action not pending is a breach of decorum. To the extent that this minority report specifically does that, the content of the minority report is inappropriate. (RONR also strenuously advises against the use of members’ names as much as possible, and this guidance is also violated extensively in the minority report.)&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr Karlan may object but I think that it is important that the members of the party know how the LNC officers and representatives conduct themselves with regards to their position. Further more from the standpoint of an employer I want to know who is doing what and how. </p>
<p>We need to remember that we should not be using the rules to hide the facts.</p>
<p> An act of silence is an act of complicity.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas L. Knapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas L. Knapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 03:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;First, I want to make it clear that I don’t confirm or deny who my sources are — to anybody.&quot;

Ever?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;First, I want to make it clear that I don’t confirm or deny who my sources are — to anybody.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ever?</p>
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		<title>By: paulie</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/12/lnc-leak-mary-ruwart-minority-report-of-the-donor-confidentiality-committee/comment-page-1/#comment-144732</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 02:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Offtopic 

Brian - used your videos for the new site I am building for the Alabama LP (not yet the official state party site) 

http://allparty.wordpress.com/

Hope you&#039;re cool with that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Offtopic </p>
<p>Brian &#8211; used your videos for the new site I am building for the Alabama LP (not yet the official state party site) </p>
<p><a href="http://allparty.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://allparty.wordpress.com/</a></p>
<p>Hope you&#8217;re cool with that</p>
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		<title>By: paulie</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 02:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian is correct about the time stamp issue. I changed the time stamp to East Coast time because 

A) It is consistent with our sitemeter stats and

B) It&#039;s the highest populated US timezone, thus statistically the one where the largest percentage of our readers are likely to be. 

It was originally set to Central Time because site founder GE lives in Central Time Zone. 

Whether this has anything to do with Brian&#039;s alleged source, I have no idea - that&#039;s for him to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian is correct about the time stamp issue. I changed the time stamp to East Coast time because </p>
<p>A) It is consistent with our sitemeter stats and</p>
<p>B) It&#8217;s the highest populated US timezone, thus statistically the one where the largest percentage of our readers are likely to be. </p>
<p>It was originally set to Central Time because site founder GE lives in Central Time Zone. </p>
<p>Whether this has anything to do with Brian&#8217;s alleged source, I have no idea &#8211; that&#8217;s for him to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Holtz</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/12/lnc-leak-mary-ruwart-minority-report-of-the-donor-confidentiality-committee/comment-page-1/#comment-144729</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Holtz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 02:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Ruwart ventures an inference when she writes: &lt;i&gt;Mr. Starr’s memo appeared on Independent Political Review (IPR) less than 18 minutes after it was sent to the LNC. [...] with the tight time window, it is more likely that someone already had Mr. Starr’s memo and was ready to upload it as soon as it was sent to the LNC.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s not always easy to tell on IPR, but I in fact was the author of the IPR story Dr. Ruwart references. She suggests that Starr, or perhaps someone who had early access to Starr&#039;s memo, was a source for my story.  However, that suggestion is based on a mistake.

First, I want to make it clear that I don&#039;t confirm or deny who my sources are -- to anybody.

Now, Dr. Ruwart&#039;s mistake is that she thinks I had an hour less time to write my article than I actually did. My source(s) forwarded me an email apparently sent to the LNC at what would be 10:00pm in the Pacific Time Zone.  I did not post my article until 11:26pm.

While IPR articles are currently timestamped three hours ahead of California time, in April they were being timestamped two hours ahead. I know this because any time I post original content for IPR, I email myself a copy.  I emailed myself that April article at 11:26pm, and its posting timestamp on IPR is 1:26am the next day.  Similarly, my Apr 26 IPR article on Day 2 of the LPCA convention was posted via email to my
own blog (http://libertarianintelligence.com/2009/04/lpca-convention-day-2.html) at 5:06pm, and then immediately pasted into an IPR posting that became timestamped at 7:07pm.

So however much time Dr. Ruwart believes I had to write the article, I actually had an hour more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Ruwart ventures an inference when she writes: <i>Mr. Starr’s memo appeared on Independent Political Review (IPR) less than 18 minutes after it was sent to the LNC. [...] with the tight time window, it is more likely that someone already had Mr. Starr’s memo and was ready to upload it as soon as it was sent to the LNC.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not always easy to tell on IPR, but I in fact was the author of the IPR story Dr. Ruwart references. She suggests that Starr, or perhaps someone who had early access to Starr&#8217;s memo, was a source for my story.  However, that suggestion is based on a mistake.</p>
<p>First, I want to make it clear that I don&#8217;t confirm or deny who my sources are &#8212; to anybody.</p>
<p>Now, Dr. Ruwart&#8217;s mistake is that she thinks I had an hour less time to write my article than I actually did. My source(s) forwarded me an email apparently sent to the LNC at what would be 10:00pm in the Pacific Time Zone.  I did not post my article until 11:26pm.</p>
<p>While IPR articles are currently timestamped three hours ahead of California time, in April they were being timestamped two hours ahead. I know this because any time I post original content for IPR, I email myself a copy.  I emailed myself that April article at 11:26pm, and its posting timestamp on IPR is 1:26am the next day.  Similarly, my Apr 26 IPR article on Day 2 of the LPCA convention was posted via email to my<br />
own blog (<a href="http://libertarianintelligence.com/2009/04/lpca-convention-day-2.html" rel="nofollow">http://libertarianintelligence.com/2009/04/lpca-convention-day-2.html</a>) at 5:06pm, and then immediately pasted into an IPR posting that became timestamped at 7:07pm.</p>
<p>So however much time Dr. Ruwart believes I had to write the article, I actually had an hour more.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/12/lnc-leak-mary-ruwart-minority-report-of-the-donor-confidentiality-committee/comment-page-1/#comment-144707</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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Exhumed - This Axe was made to Grind</description>
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<p>Exhumed &#8211; This Axe was made to Grind</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Seebeck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Seebeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evidently Mr. Karlan, seems to think that Mr. Starr should get a pass for breaching decorum, but that Dr. Ruwart in pointing out Mr. Starr&#039;s antics on the committee, as well as his attempt to ramrod the committee and exclude Dr. Ruwart&#039;s rightful place on the committee, assisted by Mr. Hinkle&#039;s wishy-washy chairmanship, should not.

Mr. Karlan, we call that hypocrisy, and Dr. Ruwart&#039;s concerns about the operations of the committee, as glossed over and ignored by Mr. Redpath, deserve a full and proper airing before the entire LNC in whatever manner she sees fit.  To attempt to censor a minority report of a committee (of which you are not even a member!) is highly inappropriate in itself and speaks volumes of your own selective interpretation of decorum and proper procedure.  Witness your own grandstanding in regards to Mr. LaBianca recently in St. Louis as Exhibit A.  If the LNC decides to exclude the minority report now, once it is publicly leaked, it dopes so at its own peril, but at the very least it should be given a full and proper vetting before the entire LNC.  As libertarians we are supposed to abhor censorship as aggressive force against the personal right of free speech, remember?

Frankly, there is nothing in Dr. Ruwart&#039;s Executive Summary that merits removal; but there is plenty of information in there that warrants at the very least a censure of Mr. Starr for continued actions damaging to the Party and its reputation, including continued creation of risk of legal liability and financial damages.

If anything, the enitre escapade once again illustrates why Mr. Starr is a cancer on the LNC that needs removal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evidently Mr. Karlan, seems to think that Mr. Starr should get a pass for breaching decorum, but that Dr. Ruwart in pointing out Mr. Starr&#8217;s antics on the committee, as well as his attempt to ramrod the committee and exclude Dr. Ruwart&#8217;s rightful place on the committee, assisted by Mr. Hinkle&#8217;s wishy-washy chairmanship, should not.</p>
<p>Mr. Karlan, we call that hypocrisy, and Dr. Ruwart&#8217;s concerns about the operations of the committee, as glossed over and ignored by Mr. Redpath, deserve a full and proper airing before the entire LNC in whatever manner she sees fit.  To attempt to censor a minority report of a committee (of which you are not even a member!) is highly inappropriate in itself and speaks volumes of your own selective interpretation of decorum and proper procedure.  Witness your own grandstanding in regards to Mr. LaBianca recently in St. Louis as Exhibit A.  If the LNC decides to exclude the minority report now, once it is publicly leaked, it dopes so at its own peril, but at the very least it should be given a full and proper vetting before the entire LNC.  As libertarians we are supposed to abhor censorship as aggressive force against the personal right of free speech, remember?</p>
<p>Frankly, there is nothing in Dr. Ruwart&#8217;s Executive Summary that merits removal; but there is plenty of information in there that warrants at the very least a censure of Mr. Starr for continued actions damaging to the Party and its reputation, including continued creation of risk of legal liability and financial damages.</p>
<p>If anything, the enitre escapade once again illustrates why Mr. Starr is a cancer on the LNC that needs removal.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Don Lake .......... More Paul Harvey Moments</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Lake .......... More Paul Harvey Moments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob  // Dec 22, 2009:
&quot;Ah nothing better than third party in house squabbles. The battle is so fierce cause the stakes are so low. Absolute powerlessness corrupts absolutely. An in-house party squabble a day keeps the voters away. Sure the two big parties suck-and when voters go check out the third parties…..no, no, no I am the real vice chair of the real party in this state, not so and so….yada yada yada.&quot;

Lake: so you are are some what familiar with the deform/ reform movement ?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob  // Dec 22, 2009:<br />
&#8220;Ah nothing better than third party in house squabbles. The battle is so fierce cause the stakes are so low. Absolute powerlessness corrupts absolutely. An in-house party squabble a day keeps the voters away. Sure the two big parties suck-and when voters go check out the third parties…..no, no, no I am the real vice chair of the real party in this state, not so and so….yada yada yada.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lake: so you are are some what familiar with the deform/ reform movement ?????</p>
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		<title>By: libertariangirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>libertariangirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*sigh* more he said she said ...yay:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*sigh* more he said she said &#8230;yay:(</p>
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		<title>By: paulie</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: paulie</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: George Phillies</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Phillies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Mr. Hinkle went on to say ... he intended to have it[a particular point] reversed in the conference call of the DCC which was at 3pm CST, approximately 20 minutes away.

When I[Ruwart]  told Mr. Hinkle that I[Ruwart]  was available for the meeting, he told me that I[Ruwart]  could not participate because Mr. Starr had specifically asked that I be excluded until the document was “finalized.” &quot;

For those of you who find something a bit odd here, note &quot;After the meeting, Chairman Redpath assigned Mr. Hinkle, Mr. Flood, Mr. Carling, Mr. Starr and [Ruwart] to the [Donor Confidentiality] Committee.&quot;

That is, here we have the Chair of the DCC, according to Ruwart, acceding to the demand of one committee member that another committee member be excluded from the Committee&#039;s proceedings.  This is somewhat the opposite of the Roberts&#039; concept that the purpose of rules of order is to permit the minority to be heard and the majority to act.  The Chair of the DCC is, of course, a candidate to become National Chair of our party, so his ideas on interpretations of Roberts&#039; is of at least passing interest in the real world.

If you think the Ruwart minority report is a bit odd, wait until you see Dan Karlan&#039;s memo demanding that large parts of the minority report be suppressed.  To judge from the CC list, Liberty for America magazine was one of a substantial list of parties that has now seen it.

For real oddity, the new LNC Policy Manual, including the large new parts that do not appear ever to have been passed by the LNC, is even more noteworthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mr. Hinkle went on to say &#8230; he intended to have it[a particular point] reversed in the conference call of the DCC which was at 3pm CST, approximately 20 minutes away.</p>
<p>When I[Ruwart]  told Mr. Hinkle that I[Ruwart]  was available for the meeting, he told me that I[Ruwart]  could not participate because Mr. Starr had specifically asked that I be excluded until the document was “finalized.” &#8221;</p>
<p>For those of you who find something a bit odd here, note &#8220;After the meeting, Chairman Redpath assigned Mr. Hinkle, Mr. Flood, Mr. Carling, Mr. Starr and [Ruwart] to the [Donor Confidentiality] Committee.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is, here we have the Chair of the DCC, according to Ruwart, acceding to the demand of one committee member that another committee member be excluded from the Committee&#8217;s proceedings.  This is somewhat the opposite of the Roberts&#8217; concept that the purpose of rules of order is to permit the minority to be heard and the majority to act.  The Chair of the DCC is, of course, a candidate to become National Chair of our party, so his ideas on interpretations of Roberts&#8217; is of at least passing interest in the real world.</p>
<p>If you think the Ruwart minority report is a bit odd, wait until you see Dan Karlan&#8217;s memo demanding that large parts of the minority report be suppressed.  To judge from the CC list, Liberty for America magazine was one of a substantial list of parties that has now seen it.</p>
<p>For real oddity, the new LNC Policy Manual, including the large new parts that do not appear ever to have been passed by the LNC, is even more noteworthy.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/12/lnc-leak-mary-ruwart-minority-report-of-the-donor-confidentiality-committee/comment-page-1/#comment-144667</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the source of the article, forwarded allegedly from LNC member Dan Karlan: 

RONR specifically includes &quot;Refraining from speaking adversely on a prior action not pending&quot; as a key component of decorum, and by extension, speaking adversely on a prior action not pending is a breach of decorum. To the extent that this minority report specifically does that, the content of the minority report is inappropriate. (RONR also strenuously advises against the use of members&#039; names as much as possible, and this guidance is also violated extensively in the minority report.)

I ask Dr. Ruwart to remove that material and confine her comments
specifically to the mission of the Committee and her disagrements with the report of the Committee. Until that happens, I strongly oppose inclusion of this minority report in the minutes. (For assistance, those indecorus comments are from the paragraph at the bottom of page 1 beginning &quot;Mr. Starr’s memo ... &quot; through the end of the paragraph on page 3 beginning &quot;As our Treasurer ... &quot;)

Furthermore, everything in the report under the heading &quot;Why the Donor
Confidentiality Committee Is Ineffective&quot; on page 4 through the paragraph beginning &quot;Mr. Starr’s reaction ... &quot; on page 5 should be removed as inappropriate. The minority report should limit itself to a statement of what is insufficient in the Committee report, and leave it at that. Using the minority report as the base from which to conduct personal attacks is a gross violation of decorum, and the report with those comments included must not be allowed to appear in the minutes.

Dan Karlan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the source of the article, forwarded allegedly from LNC member Dan Karlan: </p>
<p>RONR specifically includes &#8220;Refraining from speaking adversely on a prior action not pending&#8221; as a key component of decorum, and by extension, speaking adversely on a prior action not pending is a breach of decorum. To the extent that this minority report specifically does that, the content of the minority report is inappropriate. (RONR also strenuously advises against the use of members&#8217; names as much as possible, and this guidance is also violated extensively in the minority report.)</p>
<p>I ask Dr. Ruwart to remove that material and confine her comments<br />
specifically to the mission of the Committee and her disagrements with the report of the Committee. Until that happens, I strongly oppose inclusion of this minority report in the minutes. (For assistance, those indecorus comments are from the paragraph at the bottom of page 1 beginning &#8220;Mr. Starr’s memo &#8230; &#8221; through the end of the paragraph on page 3 beginning &#8220;As our Treasurer &#8230; &#8220;)</p>
<p>Furthermore, everything in the report under the heading &#8220;Why the Donor<br />
Confidentiality Committee Is Ineffective&#8221; on page 4 through the paragraph beginning &#8220;Mr. Starr’s reaction &#8230; &#8221; on page 5 should be removed as inappropriate. The minority report should limit itself to a statement of what is insufficient in the Committee report, and leave it at that. Using the minority report as the base from which to conduct personal attacks is a gross violation of decorum, and the report with those comments included must not be allowed to appear in the minutes.</p>
<p>Dan Karlan</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/12/lnc-leak-mary-ruwart-minority-report-of-the-donor-confidentiality-committee/comment-page-1/#comment-144664</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They both suck ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They both suck ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Mik Robertson</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/12/lnc-leak-mary-ruwart-minority-report-of-the-donor-confidentiality-committee/comment-page-1/#comment-144663</link>
		<dc:creator>Mik Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m starting to like this Clay thing. It makes more sense than the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m starting to like this Clay thing. It makes more sense than the article.</p>
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		<title>By: Clay Barham</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/12/lnc-leak-mary-ruwart-minority-report-of-the-donor-confidentiality-committee/comment-page-1/#comment-144652</link>
		<dc:creator>Clay Barham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UP YOUR KNOW-HOW
Leonard Read, the Founder of FEE, used to say “Improve you before trying to improve others.”  It is embarrassing to argue with someone who appears to know more and grinds you into the dust.  Yet, in politics, it is easy to find the roots of all arguments and see how issues follow those roots.  That’s what I’ve tried to provide.  If you know the roots, where the yellow brick road begins, you know better how to reach the conclusions you seek. You can take a reasoned position without passion and injury, and be the “go to” person in your circle.  Try it and see.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UP YOUR KNOW-HOW<br />
Leonard Read, the Founder of FEE, used to say “Improve you before trying to improve others.”  It is embarrassing to argue with someone who appears to know more and grinds you into the dust.  Yet, in politics, it is easy to find the roots of all arguments and see how issues follow those roots.  That’s what I’ve tried to provide.  If you know the roots, where the yellow brick road begins, you know better how to reach the conclusions you seek. You can take a reasoned position without passion and injury, and be the “go to” person in your circle.  Try it and see.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/12/lnc-leak-mary-ruwart-minority-report-of-the-donor-confidentiality-committee/comment-page-1/#comment-144640</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah nothing better than third party in house squabbles. The battle is so fierce cause the stakes are so low. Absolute powerlessness corrupts absolutely. An in-house party squabble a day keeps the voters away. Sure the two big parties suck-and when voters go check out the third parties.....no, no, no I am the real vice chair of the real party in this state, not so and so....yada yada yada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah nothing better than third party in house squabbles. The battle is so fierce cause the stakes are so low. Absolute powerlessness corrupts absolutely. An in-house party squabble a day keeps the voters away. Sure the two big parties suck-and when voters go check out the third parties&#8230;..no, no, no I am the real vice chair of the real party in this state, not so and so&#8230;.yada yada yada.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/12/lnc-leak-mary-ruwart-minority-report-of-the-donor-confidentiality-committee/comment-page-1/#comment-144632</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donor information is already public.  It is posted online at the Federal Elections Commission website which anyone can access.  There are also several other websites which post donor information such as New Meat,  Open Secrets,  Zip Code Watch (I think that&#039;s what it is called),  and some others.  Plus donor information is also available on political party websites as well as political party publications (such as LP News).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donor information is already public.  It is posted online at the Federal Elections Commission website which anyone can access.  There are also several other websites which post donor information such as New Meat,  Open Secrets,  Zip Code Watch (I think that&#8217;s what it is called),  and some others.  Plus donor information is also available on political party websites as well as political party publications (such as LP News).</p>
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