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		<title>By: Libertarian Party Most Favored by Tea Party Protesters &#124; Independent Political Report</title>
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		<dc:creator>Libertarian Party Most Favored by Tea Party Protesters &#124; Independent Political Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] IPR here. Similar moves have been made or contemplated by Tea Parties in Connecticut, Nevada, and Florida. In Nevada and Florida, some Tea Party activists (especially those associated with the Republican [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Conservatives, Libertarians, Greens, Tea Party and other alternative choices for Governor of New York &#124; Independent Political Report</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conservatives, Libertarians, Greens, Tea Party and other alternative choices for Governor of New York &#124; Independent Political Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] IPR here. Similar moves have been made or contemplated by Tea Parties in Connecticut, Nevada, and Florida. In Nevada and Florida, some Tea Party activists (especially those associated with the Republican [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Lomsak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Lomsak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 05:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read all these comments and come away with the idea that most of the posters can spend much time evaluating the underlying plots of each party and what other party is manipulating the outcome of an election.  Why dont you put your energy into solidarity as a third party?  In society and people in general, there is a divide and conquer theory that works very well.  As long as there is no solidarity it is easy to defeat an enemy.  The third party being the enemy.    Mr Reid finishes his post with &quot;Real Patriots dont attack other Patriots&quot;.   Divide and conquer.

What America and Americans crave the most is honesty in government that is for the people, not just a select few (special interest groups) but for all Americans.   Right now our so called representatives,  vote on their own personal agendas.  They dont seem to realize that my vote and everybody else that voted for them is who they represent.   It is an honor to be a representative not a right!  They are not there for their own self indulgence but to vote for their constituents betterments and the betterment of the country as a whole.   Its not about &quot;the party&#039;s&quot; agenda but the welfare of the country and the constituents you represent.   As long as whoever runs for whatever office has the good of the Americans, he/she represents, they will have their hearts in the right place and be a good representative.  If they can avoid greed and corruption they will go far with Americans.  I personally grow tired of all the fence jumping politicians who change their party by the way the wind blows in order for them to achieve personal gains.  These are the lowest of the lows in my book.

In closing, what&#039;s right is right and the sooner the personal agendas are dropped, and the people unite, the sooner we will have the representation that all Americans deserve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read all these comments and come away with the idea that most of the posters can spend much time evaluating the underlying plots of each party and what other party is manipulating the outcome of an election.  Why dont you put your energy into solidarity as a third party?  In society and people in general, there is a divide and conquer theory that works very well.  As long as there is no solidarity it is easy to defeat an enemy.  The third party being the enemy.    Mr Reid finishes his post with &#8220;Real Patriots dont attack other Patriots&#8221;.   Divide and conquer.</p>
<p>What America and Americans crave the most is honesty in government that is for the people, not just a select few (special interest groups) but for all Americans.   Right now our so called representatives,  vote on their own personal agendas.  They dont seem to realize that my vote and everybody else that voted for them is who they represent.   It is an honor to be a representative not a right!  They are not there for their own self indulgence but to vote for their constituents betterments and the betterment of the country as a whole.   Its not about &#8220;the party&#8217;s&#8221; agenda but the welfare of the country and the constituents you represent.   As long as whoever runs for whatever office has the good of the Americans, he/she represents, they will have their hearts in the right place and be a good representative.  If they can avoid greed and corruption they will go far with Americans.  I personally grow tired of all the fence jumping politicians who change their party by the way the wind blows in order for them to achieve personal gains.  These are the lowest of the lows in my book.</p>
<p>In closing, what&#8217;s right is right and the sooner the personal agendas are dropped, and the people unite, the sooner we will have the representation that all Americans deserve.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting to see the vicious attacks on two great Patriots - Doug Guetzloe and Fred O&#039;Neal.
Guetzloe hosts an award-winning tea party radio show (and has for 11 years now) www.Guetzloe.com.  He has fought the RINO&#039;s in the Republican Party for decades.  His reputation is stellar among Patriots - not so much among RINO&#039;s and those that oppose our tea party views.

O&#039;Neal has fought taxes and become one of the best constitutional lawyers in the state.

It appears that the fake-tea party folks in south Florida - the Wilkenson KKK types - aren&#039;t happy because a legitimate party is now authorized and gaining steam.

Real Patriots don&#039;t attack other Patriots.

www.FloridaTeaParty.us - check it out and see for yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to see the vicious attacks on two great Patriots &#8211; Doug Guetzloe and Fred O&#8217;Neal.<br />
Guetzloe hosts an award-winning tea party radio show (and has for 11 years now) <a href="http://www.Guetzloe.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.Guetzloe.com</a>.  He has fought the RINO&#8217;s in the Republican Party for decades.  His reputation is stellar among Patriots &#8211; not so much among RINO&#8217;s and those that oppose our tea party views.</p>
<p>O&#8217;Neal has fought taxes and become one of the best constitutional lawyers in the state.</p>
<p>It appears that the fake-tea party folks in south Florida &#8211; the Wilkenson KKK types &#8211; aren&#8217;t happy because a legitimate party is now authorized and gaining steam.</p>
<p>Real Patriots don&#8217;t attack other Patriots.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.FloridaTeaParty.us" rel="nofollow">http://www.FloridaTeaParty.us</a> &#8211; check it out and see for yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question is, who are this new Florida Party&#039;s supporters, who, exactly are their people? No one tea party activist we know has signed up. The first clue is the thing was really founded by the infamous Doug Guetzloe-   he’s a scumbag and crook and exploiter. He’s proven he’ll always support whoever pays him - even if it means higher taxes.

O&#039;Neal is Guetzloe&#039;s attorney and pal.  

All of us down here in the Florida tea party movement are pretty miffed that these two guys have stolen our name and are trying to build their own power and influence in a fake effort.

Most apparent here is the Guetzloe/O&#039;Neal Party&#039;s vocal support of Paula Dockery, a RINO candidate for governor. 

Dockery is a pro-choice, free spending liberal who stands with trial lawyers instead of citizens and doctors and business owners. She is completely out of touch with Republican Primary voters in the state of Florida, who stand with AG Bill McCollum who has a long and distinguished record as a true conservative. 

But here&#039;s the trick: be ready for Dockery&#039;s third party run for govnernor after a McCollum primary victory - in the fake TEA Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question is, who are this new Florida Party&#8217;s supporters, who, exactly are their people? No one tea party activist we know has signed up. The first clue is the thing was really founded by the infamous Doug Guetzloe-   he’s a scumbag and crook and exploiter. He’s proven he’ll always support whoever pays him &#8211; even if it means higher taxes.</p>
<p>O&#8217;Neal is Guetzloe&#8217;s attorney and pal.  </p>
<p>All of us down here in the Florida tea party movement are pretty miffed that these two guys have stolen our name and are trying to build their own power and influence in a fake effort.</p>
<p>Most apparent here is the Guetzloe/O&#8217;Neal Party&#8217;s vocal support of Paula Dockery, a RINO candidate for governor. </p>
<p>Dockery is a pro-choice, free spending liberal who stands with trial lawyers instead of citizens and doctors and business owners. She is completely out of touch with Republican Primary voters in the state of Florida, who stand with AG Bill McCollum who has a long and distinguished record as a true conservative. </p>
<p>But here&#8217;s the trick: be ready for Dockery&#8217;s third party run for govnernor after a McCollum primary victory &#8211; in the fake TEA Party.</p>
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		<title>By: Darcy G Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darcy G Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Austin (#23).</description>
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		<title>By: Lovenguth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lovenguth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Clarify:

Lovenguth was a democrat who left that group after realizing the Florida democrats and the Florida republicans are one of the same.

Lovenguth is a TEA poltical party candidate in Florida and will register all the new young Florida voters he can to get out the vote and replace both republican and democrat and get Florida back to being an American, people represented state.

It&#039;s almost 2010 folks and the mindset that Florida will always be republican controlled is false.  I will do my best with my fellow veterans, the elderly, and the new young voters to bring an independent mindset back to Florida.

In the United States of America we do this by voting.   But first we must register the young folks to vote.  I will register them as Tea political party members.  

For those writing about conspiracy theories,  you sound like little sheep who fear being free and baa much like the R &amp; D bosses have taught you to.

Lovenguth is very much the real deal and you may want to research him, as he isn&#039;t taking any corporation funds and needs you to &quot;Pass the Word&quot; for him.  He hasn&#039;t, and will not be told how to vote by anyone but the people who vote for him.  

Expect to see such negative stories as R &amp; D candidates have millions of dollars from corporations who don&#039;t want Lovenguth as Senator.  They want to control who they put money on.  Including you.  Isn&#039;t that clear?

Now, Goto: http://www.TeaParty.Pro and register to vote.  That&#039;s step one.

Jorge Antonio Lovenguth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Clarify:</p>
<p>Lovenguth was a democrat who left that group after realizing the Florida democrats and the Florida republicans are one of the same.</p>
<p>Lovenguth is a TEA poltical party candidate in Florida and will register all the new young Florida voters he can to get out the vote and replace both republican and democrat and get Florida back to being an American, people represented state.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost 2010 folks and the mindset that Florida will always be republican controlled is false.  I will do my best with my fellow veterans, the elderly, and the new young voters to bring an independent mindset back to Florida.</p>
<p>In the United States of America we do this by voting.   But first we must register the young folks to vote.  I will register them as Tea political party members.  </p>
<p>For those writing about conspiracy theories,  you sound like little sheep who fear being free and baa much like the R &amp; D bosses have taught you to.</p>
<p>Lovenguth is very much the real deal and you may want to research him, as he isn&#8217;t taking any corporation funds and needs you to &#8220;Pass the Word&#8221; for him.  He hasn&#8217;t, and will not be told how to vote by anyone but the people who vote for him.  </p>
<p>Expect to see such negative stories as R &amp; D candidates have millions of dollars from corporations who don&#8217;t want Lovenguth as Senator.  They want to control who they put money on.  Including you.  Isn&#8217;t that clear?</p>
<p>Now, Goto: <a href="http://www.TeaParty.Pro" rel="nofollow">http://www.TeaParty.Pro</a> and register to vote.  That&#8217;s step one.</p>
<p>Jorge Antonio Lovenguth</p>
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		<title>By: Austin Cassidy</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/12/florida-third-party-tea-party/comment-page-1/#comment-144192</link>
		<dc:creator>Austin Cassidy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 04:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know of anyone planning to run.  That&#039;d be a tough district for a Republican to win in... but anything&#039;s possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know of anyone planning to run.  That&#8217;d be a tough district for a Republican to win in&#8230; but anything&#8217;s possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Darcy G Richardson</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/12/florida-third-party-tea-party/comment-page-1/#comment-143630</link>
		<dc:creator>Darcy G Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 07:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;supporter of Richard Lamm&quot; --- sorry, it&#039;s getting late and my eyes are getting tired.

By the way, Austin, do the Republicans plan to field a candidate against Mia Jones in the 14th district?  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;supporter of Richard Lamm&#8221; &#8212; sorry, it&#8217;s getting late and my eyes are getting tired.</p>
<p>By the way, Austin, do the Republicans plan to field a candidate against Mia Jones in the 14th district?  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Darcy G Richardson</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/12/florida-third-party-tea-party/comment-page-1/#comment-143629</link>
		<dc:creator>Darcy G Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 07:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, Austin, it&#039;s a little fishy.  I checked out Frederic B. O&#039;Neal, the Orlando attorney who&#039;s listed as the party&#039;s chairman.  I couldn&#039;t find too much about him recently, but he was a big contributor to the Democratic National Committee back in the 90s.  I think at one time he was also a big support of Richard Lamm of Colorado.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Austin, it&#8217;s a little fishy.  I checked out Frederic B. O&#8217;Neal, the Orlando attorney who&#8217;s listed as the party&#8217;s chairman.  I couldn&#8217;t find too much about him recently, but he was a big contributor to the Democratic National Committee back in the 90s.  I think at one time he was also a big support of Richard Lamm of Colorado.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin Cassidy</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/12/florida-third-party-tea-party/comment-page-1/#comment-143617</link>
		<dc:creator>Austin Cassidy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 06:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right... it&#039;s not that different at all.  The fake Greens was the same sort of deal.  

The evidence is extremely clear.   The founder is a Democratic lawyer... the U.S. Senate candidate is a former Democratic State Senate nominee from the area I live in.

And he&#039;s colorful...

http://www.jaxdaily.com/2008/04/29/democrat-to-challenge-senator-wise/

If liberty and limited government is his primary cause now, it wasn&#039;t always the case.  This is from last year...

&quot;George Anthony Lovenguth is currently a candidate for the district 5 state senate seat now held by a republican in what always a democratic district. George Anthony Lovenguth plans on retaking that district for the democrats. Mr. Lovenguth was an aide to the man spoken of in the below link. The The Democratic Party of Duval has not won an election in “how many years” ? In 1973-1991 George Anthony Lovenguth assisted Mayor George Otlowski, a democrat who achieved great social and cultural buildings and economic development in Middlesex County during his terms in office. He appointed George Anthony Lovenguth as the first Downtown Re-development Committee Chairman in Perth Amboy, NJ. in 1988. Perth Amboy New Jersey is a model of success and growth. Another fact, The Middlesex County Democratic Party wins and keeps the democrats in power. The Duval Democratic Party loses constantly and the word is that in their ranks are republicans posing as democraqts; they are ridden with republican spies; nothing really to be proud about here. George Anthony Lovenguth will fight to re-establish the democratic party in Duval, Nassau, Clay, and St. Johns County and will fight with his research and his pen everyone especially for the veterans and the elderly and for educating the young ones; with or without them. The democratic party of northeast Florida needs to rid its ranks of the impostors if they really want to ever get elected again.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right&#8230; it&#8217;s not that different at all.  The fake Greens was the same sort of deal.  </p>
<p>The evidence is extremely clear.   The founder is a Democratic lawyer&#8230; the U.S. Senate candidate is a former Democratic State Senate nominee from the area I live in.</p>
<p>And he&#8217;s colorful&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jaxdaily.com/2008/04/29/democrat-to-challenge-senator-wise/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jaxdaily.com/2008/04/29/democrat-to-challenge-senator-wise/</a></p>
<p>If liberty and limited government is his primary cause now, it wasn&#8217;t always the case.  This is from last year&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;George Anthony Lovenguth is currently a candidate for the district 5 state senate seat now held by a republican in what always a democratic district. George Anthony Lovenguth plans on retaking that district for the democrats. Mr. Lovenguth was an aide to the man spoken of in the below link. The The Democratic Party of Duval has not won an election in “how many years” ? In 1973-1991 George Anthony Lovenguth assisted Mayor George Otlowski, a democrat who achieved great social and cultural buildings and economic development in Middlesex County during his terms in office. He appointed George Anthony Lovenguth as the first Downtown Re-development Committee Chairman in Perth Amboy, NJ. in 1988. Perth Amboy New Jersey is a model of success and growth. Another fact, The Middlesex County Democratic Party wins and keeps the democrats in power. The Duval Democratic Party loses constantly and the word is that in their ranks are republicans posing as democraqts; they are ridden with republican spies; nothing really to be proud about here. George Anthony Lovenguth will fight to re-establish the democratic party in Duval, Nassau, Clay, and St. Johns County and will fight with his research and his pen everyone especially for the veterans and the elderly and for educating the young ones; with or without them. The democratic party of northeast Florida needs to rid its ranks of the impostors if they really want to ever get elected again.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Darcy G Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darcy G Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paulie,

Sorry.  I didn&#039;t see your earlier post (#13).  We&#039;re definitely in agreement; turnabout is fair play. 

 I&#039;ll give you a call later this afternoon.

Darcy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paulie,</p>
<p>Sorry.  I didn&#8217;t see your earlier post (#13).  We&#8217;re definitely in agreement; turnabout is fair play. </p>
<p> I&#8217;ll give you a call later this afternoon.</p>
<p>Darcy</p>
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		<title>By: paulie</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darcy, 

My point exactly. 

BTW, give me a call if you get a minute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darcy, </p>
<p>My point exactly. </p>
<p>BTW, give me a call if you get a minute.</p>
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		<title>By: Darcy G Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darcy G Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They’ve publicly announced that they plan to target certain Republicans in the state house for defeat next year.&quot;

I guess paranoia is really running deep in the Florida GOP these days.  

I don&#039;t know about the Tea Party&#039;s potential state legislatives candidates, but George Lovenguth strikes me as a pretty sincere individual, not the type who would allow himself to be used in some sort of mischievous scheme to make life difficult for Florida Republicans next year — a party, incidentally, that has brought the state to the brink of fiscal calamity, not only saddling it with a budget shortfall of at least $2.6 billion in FY 2010-11, but also a staggering unemployment rate of 11.2%.  

If nothing else the &quot;Tea Party&quot; recognizes that Florida&#039;s Republican-dominated legislature has completely mismanaged the state.  The $2.66 billion SunRail boondoggle is just the latest example.  Watching Republican lawmakers — the same folks who had rejected high-speed rail on two previous occasions — trip all over themselves in their Keynesian quest for federal stimulus dollars, was the last straw for many fiscal conservatives and Tea Party-types.

By the way, even if this is some sort of Democratic ploy — and I&#039;m not suggesting for a moment that it is — how does this differ from the five &quot;mystery&quot; Green Party candidates for the Florida legislature last year, all of whom were believed to have been recruited by the Republicans in districts with seemingly vulnerable Democratic incumbents?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They’ve publicly announced that they plan to target certain Republicans in the state house for defeat next year.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess paranoia is really running deep in the Florida GOP these days.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about the Tea Party&#8217;s potential state legislatives candidates, but George Lovenguth strikes me as a pretty sincere individual, not the type who would allow himself to be used in some sort of mischievous scheme to make life difficult for Florida Republicans next year — a party, incidentally, that has brought the state to the brink of fiscal calamity, not only saddling it with a budget shortfall of at least $2.6 billion in FY 2010-11, but also a staggering unemployment rate of 11.2%.  </p>
<p>If nothing else the &#8220;Tea Party&#8221; recognizes that Florida&#8217;s Republican-dominated legislature has completely mismanaged the state.  The $2.66 billion SunRail boondoggle is just the latest example.  Watching Republican lawmakers — the same folks who had rejected high-speed rail on two previous occasions — trip all over themselves in their Keynesian quest for federal stimulus dollars, was the last straw for many fiscal conservatives and Tea Party-types.</p>
<p>By the way, even if this is some sort of Democratic ploy — and I&#8217;m not suggesting for a moment that it is — how does this differ from the five &#8220;mystery&#8221; Green Party candidates for the Florida legislature last year, all of whom were believed to have been recruited by the Republicans in districts with seemingly vulnerable Democratic incumbents?</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Use-a-patrot act...Greens are good on that too. And some of them support gun rights. So far, from what I can tell, the CP is no more libertarian than the Greens are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use-a-patrot act&#8230;Greens are good on that too. And some of them support gun rights. So far, from what I can tell, the CP is no more libertarian than the Greens are.</p>
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		<title>By: libertarianblue</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you think the Constitution Party is a freedom party?

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Gun rights and Patriot Act but thats really it. In my opinion they&#039;re the religious right on steroids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you think the Constitution Party is a freedom party?</p>
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<p>Gun rights and Patriot Act but thats really it. In my opinion they&#8217;re the religious right on steroids.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie</title>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;there are two already established pro-freedom third parties. Libertarian and Constitution Party&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why do you think the Constitution Party is a freedom party? On many social issues, as well as trade and immigration they are not. And on many of those same issues the Green Party is more of a freedom party than the Constitution Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>there are two already established pro-freedom third parties. Libertarian and Constitution Party</p></blockquote>
<p>Why do you think the Constitution Party is a freedom party? On many social issues, as well as trade and immigration they are not. And on many of those same issues the Green Party is more of a freedom party than the Constitution Party.</p>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Hey guys, FYI — I’ve been hearing that there’s more to this story. Seems that the organizer was a Democratic lawyer. Lovenguth ran for State Senate last year as a Democrat.

They’ve publicly announced that they plan to target certain Republicans in the state house for defeat next year.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hmmm. Sounds like the fake Greens the Republican party got to run in Florida last year. Sauce for the goose? Taste of their own medicine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hey guys, FYI — I’ve been hearing that there’s more to this story. Seems that the organizer was a Democratic lawyer. Lovenguth ran for State Senate last year as a Democrat.</p>
<p>They’ve publicly announced that they plan to target certain Republicans in the state house for defeat next year.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmmm. Sounds like the fake Greens the Republican party got to run in Florida last year. Sauce for the goose? Taste of their own medicine?</p>
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		<title>By: libertarianblue</title>
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		<description>And most of the tea party organizers are expressing concern that someone has hijacked the name of the “movement” as a party and is going to try and use it to damage the Republicans.

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The Neocons are already doing this, whats the big surprise if a Democrat does it?

One question I have why attempt another third party when there are two already established pro-freedom third parties. Libertarian and Constitution Party</description>
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<p>The Neocons are already doing this, whats the big surprise if a Democrat does it?</p>
<p>One question I have why attempt another third party when there are two already established pro-freedom third parties. Libertarian and Constitution Party</p>
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		<title>By: d.eris</title>
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		<description>&quot;And most of the tea party organizers are expressing concern that someone has hijacked the name of the “movement” as a party and is going to try and use it to damage the Republicans.&quot;

I would be suspicious of such claims, though I wouldn&#039;t doubt the mendacity of a Democrat seeking to weaken Republicans in such a way.  A new conspiracy theory that seems to be gaining traction in circles devoted to Rush Limbaugh&#039;s brand of duopolist Republicanism effectively claims that any apparent grassroots conservative third party activism is really a conspiracy of liberal Democrats to weaken the Republican Party.  I recently noted two examples of this theory at Poli-Tea.  See &lt;a href=&quot;http://politeaparty.blogspot.com/2009/12/on-ideological-division-of-labor-in.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://politeaparty.blogspot.com/2009/12/choice-is-clear-independence-from.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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<p>I would be suspicious of such claims, though I wouldn&#8217;t doubt the mendacity of a Democrat seeking to weaken Republicans in such a way.  A new conspiracy theory that seems to be gaining traction in circles devoted to Rush Limbaugh&#8217;s brand of duopolist Republicanism effectively claims that any apparent grassroots conservative third party activism is really a conspiracy of liberal Democrats to weaken the Republican Party.  I recently noted two examples of this theory at Poli-Tea.  See <a href="http://politeaparty.blogspot.com/2009/12/on-ideological-division-of-labor-in.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://politeaparty.blogspot.com/2009/12/choice-is-clear-independence-from.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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