Three members of the Utah Constitution Party were elected to city office on November 3, 2009. They are Kenneth O. Lutes, elected Mayor of Elk Ridge; Matt Kimmel to the Syracuse City Council; and Thomas Butler to the Highland City Council. These were non-partisan elections, but newspapers generally would report the party affiliation of the various candidates.
Also, the party’s vice-chair, David Perry, polled 42% for Mayor in Sandy. Sandy is the sixth-largest city in Utah. Perry was the only opponent of the incumbent Mayor.
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1 Third Party Revolution // Nov 5, 2009 at 6:33 am
So how many CP members are elected nationwide?
2 NewFederalist // Nov 5, 2009 at 10:30 am
http://www.constitutionparty.org/
3 Morgan Brykein // Nov 5, 2009 at 10:47 am
I heard that there is a socially libertarian wing of the Constitution Party. Is that correct?
4 Trent Hill // Nov 5, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Morgan,
I have been out of the party for awhile–but when I left, yes, that was true. There is a large free market contingent too.
5 citizen1 // Nov 5, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Morgan,
Depending on what you mean by a socially libertarian wing of the Constitution Party, I may be part of that wing.
Trent,
I may be ignorant here but you say “There is a large free market contingent too.” Large like almost all of it or am I missing something?
6 Joey G. Dauben // Nov 5, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Constitution Party of Texas embroiled in major controversy over 2 competing (“rogue”) factions, 2 Web sites, 2 state chairs, etc.
I just broke the news:
http://www.elliscountyobserver.com/?p=9647
7 Don Lake, late at night // Nov 5, 2009 at 5:06 pm
And on the West Coast ………
8 Morgan Brykein // Nov 5, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Reading through the Constitution Party’s platform, I agree with them on most points, except for those concerning social issues. I probably find the CP platform more appealing than that of the LP.
9 Trent Hill // Nov 5, 2009 at 6:21 pm
“Large like almost all of it or am I missing something?”
Yea, most of it.
10 libertariangirl // Nov 5, 2009 at 6:54 pm
good for them
11 Third Party Revolution // Nov 5, 2009 at 9:39 pm
NewFed, so why did u post the CP website?
12 Ralph Swanson // Nov 5, 2009 at 11:18 pm
@ 6…
Why the split? Thanks.
13 Cody Quirk // Nov 6, 2009 at 12:17 am
Yeah, what’s the infighting about?
14 Erik Geib // Nov 6, 2009 at 12:48 am
Joey,
It’s nice to see you free from the trouble you were harassed with. Keep up the excellent reporting!
15 Trent Hill // Nov 6, 2009 at 12:11 pm
If I had to guess–and this is just that, a guess–I’d say Drumheller likes the Keyes faction and wants to join them, and Malatesta doesn’t. Or it could relate to the Ron Paul issue. Drumheller dislikes Ron Paul because he is very socially conservative (and nationalistic) and protectionist. Malatesta is pro-Ron Paul (he led the chargew to draft Ron paul for the CP), free market oriented, and more libertarian on social issues.
Malatesta was one of the best party leaders in the CP.
16 C James Madison // Nov 6, 2009 at 2:41 pm
#6: According to politics1.com, there are about 33 political parties in the US. If the Keyes faction does not like enough of the CP platform to work alongside the party leaders, then surely they can find a political party that satisfies their desires. The CP is staunchly free-market and a recent political article I read states that it seems as if Americans are dividing over command-centered government vs. capitalism.
17 Third Party Revolution // Nov 6, 2009 at 2:42 pm
So does anybody have an answer to my question?
18 Richard Winger // Nov 6, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Concerning post #16, there are lots of organizations that call themselves “political parties” but which never run candidates, or at least don’t run candidates in partisan elections.
Also, in Connecticut, Illinois, and New York, there are lots of political parties that only exist in a single city or town or village. And there are plenty of parties that only exist in a single state. Trying to say how many political parties there are in the U.S., without setting out definitions and rules about the scope, is almost like trying to say how many churches there are in the U.S.
In 2009, as far as I know, the only nationally-organized parties that had candidates in partisan elections anywhere in the U.S. are Libertarian, Green, Constitution, Socialist, Socialist Workers, Working Families, Party for Socialism and Liberation. Peace & Freedom says it wants to be a nationally-organized party but it isn’t yet. The Independence Parties of New York and Minnesota talk to each other but they aren’t really in any national party organization. So I would say there are only 7 national parties right now.
19 NewFederalist // Nov 6, 2009 at 10:18 pm
TPR- I posted the CP website so you could contact them directly and ask about their elected members.
20 Third Party Revolution // Nov 7, 2009 at 12:50 pm
I guess I will do that then and give everyone here the number.
21 Trent Hill // Nov 9, 2009 at 2:15 pm
TPR,
Please do. I believe the number will be somewhere around ….15? All local.
22 Third Party Revolution // Nov 9, 2009 at 3:24 pm
I still haven’t received a number even thought I sent a request on Saturday.
23 Trent Hill // Nov 9, 2009 at 3:39 pm
TPR,
They get a lot of emails through the public email address. Last I’d checked, the number sat at somewhere around 7-8 elected officials–but that was two years ago. The three in Utah would raise it to 10-11.
24 Third Party Revolution // Nov 9, 2009 at 9:59 pm
How long does it take to get a response?
25 Don Lake, late at night // Nov 10, 2009 at 5:06 am
TPR is sure impatient on minor matters of minor matters. What is the rush dude ????? We are on the verge of a mid week Federal holiday AFTER the off off year elections.
As important as a paper trail of protest of the anti citizen Establishment Duopoly might be, our proper place, as defined by our selves and our continuing dysfunctioning, is that of an asterisk on an asterisk!
26 Trent Hill // Nov 10, 2009 at 3:22 pm
So, the Baldwin-AIP faction is running 5 candidates, at least, in the elections for 2010. The Alan Keyes faction is not running any. Each state or national candidate becomes a member of the State Central Committee–giving the Baldwin faction more and more votes (and it already had more votes, I think). Whether it’s through the courts or the traditional Convention-battle, the AIP is going to come back to the Baldwin faction.
27 Joey G. Dauben // Nov 10, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Malatesta is also one of the CP “leaders” who voted against making the Tampa Bay national convention platform plank solidly pro-life.
He also claimed to have paid for my membership in the Texas Right to Life ($25) and never did. He also worked at the same company that Dick Simkanin either worked for or owned. Simkanin (sp?) was sentenced to federal prison for tax evasion (one of those tax honesty guys.)
Malatesta was never really an active chairman. I mean, where are the results? I set up a blog for the former vice chair for those guys to utilize and launch (a site that kinda mirrored The Ellis County Observer blog that I run) and yet they did nothing with it.
My good friend Bill Horning is the Ellis County CP chairman and judging from strictly an observational standpoint, the Clem faction (keep in mind this is the same faction that is recognized by the Secretary of State) of which Horning is a part of is the do-something branch.
There are reasons why the Malatesta group is no longer in power.
28 Joey G. Dauben // Nov 10, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Let me also throw out two instances in 2008 (before filing ended on Jan. 3, 2009) where two partisan special elections in Ellis County took place.
Special elections in Texas are unique because you can file any candidate for any party.
I told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told Malatesta and the CP folks about this, about the fact there were two guys in Ellis County (south of Dallas) ready to run as CP candidates for these special elections (countywide posts, at that…treasurer and tax collector I believe.)
But Malatesta never did jack crap, and he lied when he said he’d be making contact with the potential CP candidate.
Just like the Freedom County, Texas scam that Michael Badnarik is apart of that I exposed, I’ll do the same thing to the Malatesta Klux Klan.
29 Joey G. Dauben // Nov 10, 2009 at 5:40 pm
@ Erik, thank you.
All of the police officers in this bogus case have all resigned and/or are in the process of “leaving.” :0
Updates on that: KaufmanCountyO.com
30 Third Party Revolution // Nov 10, 2009 at 5:56 pm
And speaking of the Keyes faction, has the AIP (America’s Independent Party) ever run any candidates of their own other than Keyes?
31 Don Lake, late at night // Nov 11, 2009 at 2:56 am
It is my understanding that Debra Bowen [Democrat Party C alifornia Secretary of State] can remove the Baldwin candidates at the request of the [recognized] Keyes faction.
32 Trent Hill // Nov 11, 2009 at 12:03 pm
“Malatesta is also one of the CP “leaders” who voted against making the Tampa Bay national convention platform plank solidly pro-life.”
I’ve say that’s a huge over-simplification and demonstrated a lack of understanding of the issue.
Malatesta was a great guy, when I knew him. He was not a crazy, he was active, he was right on the issues, he was inclusive, etc.
Malatesta’s group is the one recognized by Texas, I believe.
33 Trent Hill // Nov 11, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Recognized by National* I mean.
34 Trent Hill // Nov 11, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Really? The Malatesta Klux Klan? You don’t think that goes too far? You just destroyed your credibility as far as im concerned, by comparing this faction that you dislike to open and overt racists? That’s pretty disgusting, Joey.
35 Trent Hill // Nov 11, 2009 at 12:10 pm
“And speaking of the Keyes faction, has the AIP (America’s Independent Party) ever run any candidates of their own other than Keyes?”
I believe they had two members that tried to run for Congress or something–both failed to get on the ballot.
36 libertariangirl // Nov 11, 2009 at 12:19 pm
the AIP is kicking ass in NV . Normally they are a non issue as far as competition , but they gt new leadership and are making serious inroads . Im more than a little worried about the competition they bring next election .
Good Job NV AIP!
37 NewFederalist // Nov 11, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Actually, it is IAP in NV.
38 libertariangirl // Nov 11, 2009 at 12:45 pm
youre right ! sorry
39 Don Grundmann // Nov 11, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Regarding comment #31 above the Keyes faction ( where the corruption is ) has NO ability to stop any Baldwin faction ( the REAL AIP ) from running any candidate. We will have a greater number of candidates running than at any time in the history of the party and Mark Robinson, the ultra corrupt fake Chairman of the AIP, can do NOTHING to stop them.
Don Grundmann Vice-Chairman American Independent Party California branch of the Constitution Party
40 Trent Hill // Nov 11, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Libertariangirl,
Please tell us more about the NV IAP.
41 Don Lake, late at night // Nov 11, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Doctor Donald Grundmann is soooooooooooo delusional to think that his little band of misfits can over rule the duly elected state wide elections executive! Yes, Debra Bowen is one of the Sacramento political thugs —– but she is official, you and Cody Quirk are not!
You two were wrong, AS MANY OF US TOLD YOU EARLY and OFTEN, about the California ballot access of the FAILED P2008 West Coast candidacy of Alex Baldwin. Go ahead and embarrass your self in 2010! Don’t let reason and rationality stop you now!
42 libertariangirl // Nov 11, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Well , they are poised to obtain major party status , some believe because of the tricky name play for stupid registrants ( that may contribute) but either way they got new leadership(not Chris Hansen) and they’ve been all over the media . Cody Quirk would be a better 1 to ask that question of though.
43 Don Grundmann // Nov 11, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Don Lake – 1) You are the last person to talk about ” reason and rationality.” 2) While you sit on your posterior we will be fighting in defense of the country on virtually countless issues including, and galaxies better than you will accomplish, veterans issues.
Don Grundmann Vice-Chairman American Independent Party California branch of the Constitution Party
44 Don Lake, late at night // Nov 11, 2009 at 7:37 pm
You are doing absolutely next to nothing on that issue, as I return from the local veterans parade.
So do you get [illegally, unlawfully, unconstitutionally] escorted from the microphone via fear that you will say some thing honest and truth ful ????
Ask the art ful dodger Jane Burgman of Chula Vista about our research into the shoddy state and operation of the local TEN YEAR OLD veterans homes [with $1.5 m rehabilitation effort]. Oh, sorry, she is no longer in her $100K job.
Away, false veterans advocate, away!
45 Don Lake, late at night // Nov 11, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Lib Grrl: says who, Cody ‘Some what confused’ Quirk ?????? He has been wrong about this [Baldwin P2008] that and the other. He posts others’ message as his own. He lies, lies, lies, and then lies about the lies.
Yes Genius Grrl with the Room Temperature IQ, this would be the best time to take his word for it!
46 libertariangirl // Nov 11, 2009 at 7:51 pm
um , the stuff I said is in the news . I just meant he prob nows more about it than I . My IQ is 136 , just so ya know.
47 libertariangirl // Nov 11, 2009 at 7:53 pm
and I can spell knows if I try …LOL
48 Don Lake, late at night // Nov 11, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Well, it was a hot room and the A/C was broken!
I was a Doctor Donald J. Grundmann supporter in 2004. He was a reactionary sort but still with a foot, alright, a couple of toes, on the planet. But since 2006 he has been on a major anti gay, Bible Thumping tear. And, again, he is just so unethical.
Cody, since 2005, is one of the most dishonest political activist I have met, and they abound in the [so call] Reform/ Deform movement. He will say any thing to attempt to make his point, no matter how illogical or hypocritical!
49 libertariangirl // Nov 11, 2009 at 9:31 pm
dude , chill out . Im just saying the IAP in NV is doing good.
50 Don Lake, late at night // Nov 12, 2009 at 12:45 am
Again, your source is ………..
51 Skyler McKinley // Nov 12, 2009 at 12:59 am
Anyone who has to publicly state their IQ is probably lying.
Not that I’m disagreeing or agreeing with anyone here in general. I’m just saying, that’s a fact better kept private.
52 libertariangirl // Nov 12, 2009 at 1:00 am
the news Don Lake , the News , I read it in the news , news …
53 libertariangirl // Nov 12, 2009 at 1:01 am
your right i was lying my IQ is really 154
54 Don Lake, late at night // Nov 12, 2009 at 1:33 am
oh, like my sperm count …………
And whom invited Skyler to comment ??????
Is Skyler the individual behind Third Party Revolution ???????????
55 Don Lake, late at night // Nov 12, 2009 at 1:45 am
[Chula Vista] Vets’ Home Chief Resigns
By Michael Gardner U-T Sacramento Bureau 2:00 a.m. October 31, 2009
CHULA VISTA — The administrator of the state veterans’ home in Chula Vista has resigned after superiors learned that four members of her nursing staff were given permission to attend a training seminar on a cruise ship to Ensenada at taxpayer expense.
Jane Bergman sent an e-mail to employees late Thursday revealing her decision to quit effective today, citing personal reasons.
The Department of Veterans Affairs and governor’s office in Sacramento yesterday confirmed that a high-ranking administrator had been disciplined for signing off on the three-day, three-night cruise.
The four staff members will be required to use unpaid furlough days to make up for the time they spent on the cruise. They will also have to pay the costs of the cruise out of their own pockets. The amount originally billed to the state was $209 each, Tremblay said.
“We took appropriate action,” said J.P. Tremblay, a department spokesman. Tremblay declined to identify those involved, citing personnel policies.
The trip came to light when the finance office at the department’s Sacramento headquarters received a reimbursement request from the nursing staff.
“It got flagged” and the department refused to send reimbursement checks to the staff, Tremblay said.
The trip violated Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s directive banning almost all out-of-state travel given the severe budget crisis. All trips must be pre-approved by headquarters.
Said Aaron McLear, a spokesman for the governor, “We will always take immediate action when we hear that taxpayer dollars are not being spent responsibly.”
A message left at the veterans’ home was not returned. The governor has named Jim Miller, who oversaw the home’s skilled nursing facility, as interim administrator.
In her e-mail, Bergman said: “Due to personal reasons, I have submitted my letter of resignation. .?.?. It has been an honor to work alongside you in serving veterans. You are a great team and will continue to bring honor and pride to the state of California.”
Bergman had been a fixture at the 400-bed home in Chula Vista since 2000. [Lazy Lake: and the world's worst veterans care campus, Barstow, before that ..........] The governor elevated her to the administrator’s post in May 2008. At that time, her salary was $100,428 per year.
The training session was billed as a “seminar at sea” for long-term care nurses. Staff members attended sessions related to seasonal and and pandemic flu outbreaks, disaster preparedness and how to respond to drug-resistant organisms. The program was certified, allowing staff members to receive credits toward complying with state-required training and accreditation standards.
But the vast majority of the three days and three nights did not involve work. There were cocktail receptions, dinners, shows and seven hours of free time in Ensenada [Mexico], according to a brochure.
Union-Tribune [via Citizens For A Better Veterans Home, founded 1998]
We Told Ya So!
56 Don Lake, late at night // Nov 12, 2009 at 2:05 am
Dear Doctor Donald J. Grundmann: Before Citizens For A Better Veterans Home veterans ‘biz’ executives could not be blasted out of their flawed, lethal offices. Since May 1998 it has been a revolving door ………
Gov. Schwarzenegger Appoints Roger Brautigan Secretary of the California Department of Veterans Affairs
Announces Appointment of Rocky Chavez as Undersecretary
Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger today announced the appointment of Roger Brautigan as secretary for the California Department of Veterans Affairs (CDVA).
“Roger is a respected California veteran who served honorably in the U.S. Army for more than 33 years. He has shown outstanding leadership ability and has been a true public servant for our state while serving in my administration,” said Governor Schwarzenegger. “I know he will work with the same integrity in the role of secretary that he proved while defending our nation’s freedoms and will ensure the veterans in our state are provided with access to the absolute best services available.”
Brautigan has served at CDVA as acting secretary since May 2009 and has held the position of undersecretary since 2004. He served in the U.S. Army for more than 33 years, most recently as the deputy commanding general and chief of staff, I Corps and Fort Lewis from 1999 to 2002. Prior to that, Brautigan served in Germany from 1993 to 1999 and in the Pentagon from 1991 to 1993.
Brautigan received the Army’s Baldridge-based quality management award for three consecutive years while serving as commanding general during a peacekeeping assignment in Bosnia from 1994 to 1997.
“I am proud to continue serving the administration and the veterans’ community in this role,” said Roger Brautigan. “I will work closely with the Governor to ensure California veterans are able to live in our state with the dignity and honor and access to services they deserve.”
Brautigan, 63, of Stockton, earned a Master of Arts degree in physical education from University of the Pacific and a Bachelor of Science degree in education from the University of Arizona. This position requires Senate confirmation and the compensation is $175,000. Brautigan is a Democrat.
The Governor today also announced the appointment of Rocky Chavez as undersecretary for CDVA.
Chavez, 58, of Oceanside, has served on the Oceanside City Council since 2002. He served in the U.S. Marine Corps from 1974 to 2001, most recently as assistant chief of staff for logistics, Camp Pendleton from 1999 to 2001 and previously as chief of staff, 4th Marine Division in 1998 and assistant chief of staff for logistics for 2nd Marine Division from 1996 to 1997. He currently serves on the North County Transit District Board of Directors. Chavez is a graduate of the Marine Corps Command and Staff College, Armed Forces Staff College and Air War College. This position does not require Senate confirmation and the compensation is $122,424. Chavez is a Republican.
Lazy Don Lake, lacking in honesty, ethics and effort ……… and results!
57 Skyler McKinley // Nov 12, 2009 at 2:51 am
Friendly reminder that this is a public forum. A lot of us read without commenting.
154, though. I’m impressed.
58 Don Lake, late at night // Nov 12, 2009 at 4:06 am
…………. But the air conditioning was down!
59 Robert Milnes // Nov 12, 2009 at 4:25 am
Skyler, slumming at IPR again? Are you down with the PLAS Experiment, slow as Massachusetts in January?
60 Trent Hill // Nov 12, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Skyler–no one needs to be invited–im glad you’re reading and commenting.
Don Lake and Robert Milnes–shut up.
61 libertariangirl // Nov 12, 2009 at 12:57 pm
skyler , im lying , its really 136
not so impressive:)
62 Joey G. Dauben // Nov 12, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Trent, sorry man. I was being very sarcastic and silly with that comment. It was purely sarcastic. My sense of humor doesn’t come out well online (think Mad TV), but, but, but, on a serious note, I still blame Malatesta for giving me the Chuck Geshlider experiment lol.
63 libertariangirl // Nov 12, 2009 at 7:38 pm
chuckie’s doing a radio-show with Bobby Joe Copeland tonight.
you should call in Joey:)
Chuck Geshlider–
Fellow Patriots:
I have been honored with a position on Thurs. nights from this day until the internet gets censored and/or licensed, et al. Mr. Bobby Joe Copeland of Dallas and Ellis Counties here in Texas, decided to push it to the “next level” on blogtalkradio. The
Bobby Joe Radio Show
will be soon running M-F, featuring a different theme and guest co-host each night. Tonight, he is kicking off his on-going program with:
“These 2 just ain’t cuttin’ it!”
and I, Louis Charles “Chuck” Geshlider have been invited to be his co-host each Thurs. night. He asked me what I wanted to discuss as a “pump-primer” and immediately, I stated Obama vs. Oath Keepers! Mainly, this is because it’s such an incendiary issue which ties in fed., state and local politics like no other. Of course, being that the basis of the Thurs. night show will be how the Democrats and Republicans have so royally screwed up this nation… down to every nook and cranny town, with their overt theft and obtrusive prohibitions and regulations, the march toward the New World Order gun-grab becomes a perfect point at which the grilling of the psycoPhant and jackAssWipe shall begin….
and alternatives and imperatives discussed.
It’s a call-in show. We especially want to hear from ANYONE who is on a governing board of any alternative party, at national, state or county level. Let’s hear what you are offering the voter in your jurisdiction this 2010. 347-633-9317. .. and remember, that’s “Texas Time”, y’all. (that’s central time for you Yankees)
http://www.blogtalkradio. com/bobbjoe
64 Don Lake, Prove Me Wrong ........... // Nov 12, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Skyler – you are wasting the time of serious anti Establishment patriots! – shut up.
65 Joey G. Dauben // Nov 14, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Thanks, libertariangirl.
I found the radio show link that caused an uproar among the national CP and a few state party chapters:
http://www.theamericanview.com/index.php?id=724
66 Cody Quirk // Nov 15, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Cody, since 2005, is one of the most dishonest political activist I have met, and they abound in the [so call] Reform/ Deform movement. He will say any thing to attempt to make his point, no matter how illogical or hypocritical!
= Simply because I wouldn’t be your friend and showed you for a simpleton extremist- even though you do that fine yourself with your bad spelling and grammer.
67 Cody Quirk // Nov 15, 2009 at 1:01 pm
And I’m glad that Malatesta voted the right way at Tampa: it wasn’t about making the CP “100% Pro-Life”, it was about an attempt by religious fanatics to kick out the Nevada IAP because they didn’t like the fact that the State Chair & most of their leadership are LDS (Mormon) and outspoken about their beliefs.
In fact, Nevada was only going to be just the beginning if they had succeeded.
But they didn’t and they left the CP afterwords- Good Riddence!
68 Third Party Revolution // Nov 15, 2009 at 1:38 pm
I still haven’t got a response from the CP Nationals.
69 Don Lake, Prove Me Wrong ........... // Nov 15, 2009 at 3:18 pm
I have never, ever, ever asked you, Grandmann [whom I supported far and wide in 2004], or any one else with TPW or IPR for your friend ship — their ya go making it up as you go along.
I have never asked/ demanded that you be honest and forth right. I mean, you cry anti LDS discrimination from Mormans [Ed Noonan]!
Post Script for Third Party boy: hey it is da week end dude!
70 HumbleTravis // Nov 16, 2009 at 4:33 pm
If you listen a little over halfway through the “American View” episode that Joey posted @65, Bryan Malatesta states why he voted the way he did in Tampa. It sounds like it was on quasi-federalist grounds, i.e.- the ability for state parties to manage their affairs, candidates, platforms, etc. As state chairman of the Texas CP, he did not want to enable the National CP to take action against the Texas party in the future.
However later on in the same clip, he says that he would probably vote differently if given the opportunity. Finally he says that he wishes he could help find a way to bring the Constitution Party back together instead of helping it to fall apart.
71 Trent Hill // Nov 16, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Travis,
It seems clear to me that Malatesta is quite thoughtful on this issue. Joey, however, is just trying to provide cause for his fight with malatesta.
72 Cody Quirk // Nov 16, 2009 at 7:24 pm
BTW LP Girl, the IAP is not only competition, but the LP just might have to catch up with us.
73 libertariangirl // Nov 16, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Cody , I know . It sucks for us but maybe we can capitalize on the competition;) good job.
74 HumbleTravis // Nov 17, 2009 at 8:11 pm
For whoever is trying to tally the number of officeholders from the Constitution Party, I just read about a U.S. Taxpayers Party member who was elected to the Board of Trustees at Grand Rapids Community College in Michigan. The election is non partisan. Anyway, his name is Dr. Richard Ryskamp & he has also run for the Board of Regents at University of Michigan.
http://www.grcc.edu/ShowPage.cfm?PageID=359
75 Cody Quirk // Nov 17, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Don, you once gave me your phone number, or some sort of phone number that I never bother to call.
Then again, I, or anybody else here doesn’t take you seriously at all.
76 Cody Quirk // Nov 17, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Good luck on that LG; though the LP pretty much dominates in most states anyways, I admit that.
BTW, thank you Travis for the link. I didn’t know that.
77 Don Lake, Prove Me Wrong ........... // Nov 18, 2009 at 1:49 am
Quirk Man: again, your comments prove my point! Your lack of communication, what does that have to with me never, ever asking you or Grundmann [whom I supported loud and long in 2004] to be my pal and your on going unethical behavior ???????
Fact: I have called you and called people around you, including LDS types whom are supposedly harassing you in a fit of anti Mormon effort[s]. You hare held such low esteem! You seem to think you effort is soooooooooo noble that you can lie and cheat and cut corners to promote the same.
Shame on you.
Mean what you say and say what you mean. You are one of the most unethical folks out side of the Dems and GOP and Deform Party.
78 Cody Quirk // Nov 21, 2009 at 10:28 am
Ah-Choo!
79 Cody Quirk // Nov 21, 2009 at 10:30 am
…(sniff!) Sorry, I’m allergic to BS.
80 Don Lake, A Modest Proposal ........... // Nov 21, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Cody Quirk // Nov 21, 2009:
…”(sniff!) Sorry, I’m allergic to BS.”
—- and yet Quirkie Quirk is well known in California and Nevada for the extensive dispensing of Steer Manure to a point where it is assumed that his main back ground is not Biblical but Agricultural College!
—- and yet this guy cries ‘anti Mormon’ discrimination from folks whom are IN FACT — LDS! [Ed Noonan has never been accused of being prejudiced by any one but Cody ‘Making It Up as He Goes Along’ Quirk.
—- Let the Loyal Opposition be better than the foul Establishment Duopoly, not as bad as or worse than! Shame on Doctor Grundmann and Cody Banks, er, ah Cody Quirk! They do a disservice to good hearted patriots and citizens all over!
These jerks, if they cannot make traction on a partisan issue then get all dumb and snarkie and personal and illogical. THEY are the pervayers of Bovine Ecretia!
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