Estimated Californians whom consider Doctor Grundmann to be some thing akin to “Vice Chair American Independent Party” about 38!

Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party

[and on the side of sanity]

General articles on disappearing island nations include:

* South Pacific Islands Slip Beneath the Waves by Janine Israel at Straight.com

* Will rising seas swamp some small island states? at Climate Ark

* Sinking Islands, Vanishing Worlds by Tamari’i Tutangata in Earth Island Journal

Articles focusing on Tuvalu:

* Sinking Tuvalu by Asha Krishnakumar in Frontline

* Sinking Islands Cling to Kyoto Lifebuoy by Michael Perry at Planet Ark

Kiribati is featured in Sinking Feeling by Daniel Williams at Time Pacific, and That sinking feeling at InternationalReports.net discusses the Maldives.

[a] Grundmann is NOT the Vice Chair ………..

[b] he probably thinks that Jesus was born in the Roma year zero ……….

[c] he probably thinks that the New Testament was originally written in 21st century English …..

[d] he probably thinks that the sea is not rising but that the islands are sinking ……….

Response – There are NOT ” dozens of islands that are literally disappearing.” This is the common tactic of the Plantation Masters are their doopy/loopy/drone/widgit/leemings – ” The SKY IS FALLING!!!!! DOOM DOOM DOOM!! PANIC PANIC PANIC We have to DOOO SOMETHING!!! ANYTHING!!! NOW NOW NOW NOW!!! Everything is always ” threatened,” ” possibly,” maybe,” ” could be,” studies indicate,” yada, yada, yada because there are NO FACTS – ZIP – NADA – ZERO to back them up as shown by the recently exposed e-mails regarding the cover-up of the true facts. Total mass hysteria for the typical brain dead zombie drone. How easy it is for the Plantation Masters to herd their cattle.

Don Grundmann Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party

Elsewhere I posted this a couple of days ago.
It may be a bit helpful.

“One issue that we should consider is opening the local transit market to competition. It has been suggested that doing so might reduce local urban auto emissions by as much as 50-75%. While I think those numbers are high we should be able to see a reduction of about 30% over time as well as slowing the growth of cities and roadways along with the environmental problems that are associated with them.

How do we get the LP to put as much effort into this as other issues becomes the question.

Secondly we need to point out that the U.S. military is one of the largest users of oil products on the globe. Reducing our overseas commitments would help in reducing the military’s consumption of oil products.”

And, yes, there’s nothing “wrong” with making a case against monopoly government. It is, however, ridiculous IMO to make a claim about effectiveness when there’s no data to back up the claim.

The current language is anarcho-code

If so, it’s well-coded. Most effective to me means just that – it says nothing about not having any form of monopoly government role in the area. What’s wrong with pointing out that monopoly government is not the end-all and be-all of peaceful, mutually respecting relations among neighbors?

This language we’re discussing —
when read carefully — codifies anarchism in the platform. That strikes me as counter to the St. Louis Accord.

You may be reading too carefully. If I say that self-protection is the most effective means of preventing crime, does it follow that I am necessarily an anarchist? If I say that “buyer beware” is still the most effective means of consumer protection, have I thus advocated doing away with laws against fraud?

You may be getting a bit too jumpy at imagining the spectre of anarchism lurking around every corner..

The current language is anarcho-code that goes past even MNR or Triple H. They suggest that a “libertarian society” (a non-helpful construct, IMO) would have alternative law enforcement.

Now, unless you’re saying that you want eco-terrorists like Earth First to unilaterally protect the environment outside of any generally recognized rule of law, I can’t say I’m buying.

This language we’re discussing — when read carefully — codifies anarchism in the platform. That strikes me as counter to the St. Louis Accord.

But I can be reasonably sure that most people wouldn’t just go out and commit murder if there were no enforcement monopoly against it.

Social pressure is much more than “asking someone to please not do something.” For example, there is a social taboo against incest; even though there are now effective means of birth control, the taboo remains in effect. There’s even a social taboo against incest which can’t produce offspring, such as with women past menopause, and step-siblings who are not actually closely genetically related. There are probably still some laws on the books against some of these actions, but I don’t think it’s why people generally don’t engage in them.

Not everything that is bad has to be outlawed, criminalized by a monopoly system, and subject to tax-funded police, courts and jails.

Nor do these things necessarily stop people from doing what they want to do, either.

But, I’m open. Have there been studies that show murder in Somalia and first-millenial Iceland had appreciably lower murder rates?

They’re not?

Consider deleting the sentence. I’d be OK with making the moral suasion point, but to say it’s “most effective” is not demonstrated and probably false. Or, perhaps, make the moral suasion point COUPLED WITH the rule of law.

The first sentence of 2.3 combines a truism with redundancy.

2.2. Environment
We support a clean and healthy environment and sensible use of our natural resources. Private landowners and conservation groups have a vested interest in maintaining natural resources. Pollution and misuse of resources cause damage to our ecosystem. Governments, unlike private businesses, are unaccountable for such damage done to our environment and have a terrible track record when it comes to environmental protection. Protecting the environment requires a clear definition and enforcement of individual rights in resources like land, water, air, and wildlife. Pollution of other people’s property is a violation of individual rights, and polluters must bear the full costs of their pollution. Free markets and property rights stimulate the technological innovations and behavioral changes required to protect our environment and ecosystems. We realize that our planet’s climate is constantly changing, but environmental advocatescy and social pressure are the most effective means of changing public behavior.

2.3. Energy and Resources
While energy is needed to fuel a modern society, government should not be subsidizing any particular form of energy. We oppose all government control of energy pricing, allocation, and production. We support the freedom of energy markets to induce consumers to conserve and to spur producers to innovate. Insurance markets and the courts are the proper way to regulate risks and liabilities such as those related to nuclear power.