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	<title>Comments on: Fast Company: High-Profile CEOs could revitalize Libertarian Party</title>
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		<title>By: Spence</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/11/fast-company-high-profile-ceos-could-revitalize-libertarian-party/comment-page-1/#comment-134973</link>
		<dc:creator>Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The LP is a completely failed brand. They had several chances early on in their history (before this intra-party bullsh*t became a permanent fixture) to establish a foothold. Even if they reformed their ways all the sudden, people would still look at how long the LP&#039;s been around and how long it&#039;s taken them to do anything credible and scoff.

I know I sure as hell would. Hell, I am right now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The LP is a completely failed brand. They had several chances early on in their history (before this intra-party bullsh*t became a permanent fixture) to establish a foothold. Even if they reformed their ways all the sudden, people would still look at how long the LP&#8217;s been around and how long it&#8217;s taken them to do anything credible and scoff.</p>
<p>I know I sure as hell would. Hell, I am right now!</p>
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		<title>By: Aroundtheblockafewtimes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aroundtheblockafewtimes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#37 Mr. Wilson:  Yes the LP needs to work on the local level.  But it misses so many opportunities that I wonder if LP members think of themselves as serious.

Case in point:  I understand that a dozen pro-liberty groups were invited to a county &quot;summit&quot; meeting in Chester County, PA.
Things on the agenda included sponsoring debates with all candidates included.  The county LP was invited and never even responded to the invitation.  So how hard is it going to be to convince the other groups to include the LP candidates in the coming debates?
If we don&#039;t give a sh*t then why should the public give a sh*t about us????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#37 Mr. Wilson:  Yes the LP needs to work on the local level.  But it misses so many opportunities that I wonder if LP members think of themselves as serious.</p>
<p>Case in point:  I understand that a dozen pro-liberty groups were invited to a county &#8220;summit&#8221; meeting in Chester County, PA.<br />
Things on the agenda included sponsoring debates with all candidates included.  The county LP was invited and never even responded to the invitation.  So how hard is it going to be to convince the other groups to include the LP candidates in the coming debates?<br />
If we don&#8217;t give a sh*t then why should the public give a sh*t about us????</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Capozzi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Capozzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ms, I&#039;d agree with tb to THIS extent:  campaigns that have the guap to buy media are more likely to earn media, too.  Shoestring campaigns look weaker esp. as the scope of the position increases.

Having amassed some political capital helps, too.  Barr had some, for ex., with virtually no bought media other than a web presence.  Howard Stern had notoriety.  We&#039;ve had a few others over the years, but mostly not.  

A credible candidate with some credentials and real, plausible L solutions could both buy and earn media, but it requires some stars to align.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ms, I&#8217;d agree with tb to THIS extent:  campaigns that have the guap to buy media are more likely to earn media, too.  Shoestring campaigns look weaker esp. as the scope of the position increases.</p>
<p>Having amassed some political capital helps, too.  Barr had some, for ex., with virtually no bought media other than a web presence.  Howard Stern had notoriety.  We&#8217;ve had a few others over the years, but mostly not.  </p>
<p>A credible candidate with some credentials and real, plausible L solutions could both buy and earn media, but it requires some stars to align.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Seebeck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Seebeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Tom B, but earned media in politics is no myth--unless you never earned any.  Root didn&#039;t buy his way onto his media appearances, did he?  Have yet to see any evidence of that, in the absence of it, he gets the benefit of the doubt.  Besides, do you really think he&#039;d give a left-libertarian message on FoxNews? That&#039;s not only bad political strategy, but a quick way to throw the earned media out the window and not get invited back.  It&#039;s called tailoring the message for the audience.  Sure, what he says sounds GOP *in the topics he&#039;s talking about* because there is overlap between the libertarian and conservative points there.  Same is true on the left--there is overlap.  But the trick is to diverge at the point of more government into less government.  That is something any libertarian worth their salt does in those situations.  Root to his credit has gotten better than he was at that.

(BTW, it may seem that I&#039;m defending Root, but I am being fair to the man.  That doesn&#039;t make me a Rootbot, though.)

Me, been there and done that in earning media--TV and radio interviews from tax protests and war protests, and even a fill-in gig as a drive-time talk radio host --not to mention a Xmas parade float that promoted the LP to 300,000 people--which had never been done in that town until then or since.

So, yeah, Tom B.  there is a clear difference between earned and bought media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Tom B, but earned media in politics is no myth&#8211;unless you never earned any.  Root didn&#8217;t buy his way onto his media appearances, did he?  Have yet to see any evidence of that, in the absence of it, he gets the benefit of the doubt.  Besides, do you really think he&#8217;d give a left-libertarian message on FoxNews? That&#8217;s not only bad political strategy, but a quick way to throw the earned media out the window and not get invited back.  It&#8217;s called tailoring the message for the audience.  Sure, what he says sounds GOP *in the topics he&#8217;s talking about* because there is overlap between the libertarian and conservative points there.  Same is true on the left&#8211;there is overlap.  But the trick is to diverge at the point of more government into less government.  That is something any libertarian worth their salt does in those situations.  Root to his credit has gotten better than he was at that.</p>
<p>(BTW, it may seem that I&#8217;m defending Root, but I am being fair to the man.  That doesn&#8217;t make me a Rootbot, though.)</p>
<p>Me, been there and done that in earning media&#8211;TV and radio interviews from tax protests and war protests, and even a fill-in gig as a drive-time talk radio host &#8211;not to mention a Xmas parade float that promoted the LP to 300,000 people&#8211;which had never been done in that town until then or since.</p>
<p>So, yeah, Tom B.  there is a clear difference between earned and bought media.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Capozzi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Capozzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tb, 100 years to asymptotically arrive at no-state Nirvana?  Seems a bit fast to me ;-)  They&#039;ll still be sorting out IP and baby-selling at that point ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tb, 100 years to asymptotically arrive at no-state Nirvana?  Seems a bit fast to me <img src='http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   They&#8217;ll still be sorting out IP and baby-selling at that point <img src='http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert Capozzi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Capozzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>drek, what do you mean, it didn&#039;t work?  That Specter didn&#039;t get the nomination?  If that&#039;s your standard -- winning every time out? -- then you might consider getting into a different business, since politics isn&#039;t just about winning.  L politics CERTAINLY isn&#039;t!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>drek, what do you mean, it didn&#8217;t work?  That Specter didn&#8217;t get the nomination?  If that&#8217;s your standard &#8212; winning every time out? &#8212; then you might consider getting into a different business, since politics isn&#8217;t just about winning.  L politics CERTAINLY isn&#8217;t!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Blanton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Blanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a move certain to please all moderate extremists, baby-steppers, maximalist minarchists, and apologists for the state, &quot;libertarian&quot; Glenn Beck is developing a 100-year plan. After all, Rome wasn&#039;t built in a day.

Of course, if I know Beck, we will still be fighting &quot;Islamofascism&quot;and the only people that will have any privacy left will be those in solitary confinement, if it is up to him.

Freedom in our great great grandchildren&#039;s time! Hoorah!

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/33398/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a move certain to please all moderate extremists, baby-steppers, maximalist minarchists, and apologists for the state, &#8220;libertarian&#8221; Glenn Beck is developing a 100-year plan. After all, Rome wasn&#8217;t built in a day.</p>
<p>Of course, if I know Beck, we will still be fighting &#8220;Islamofascism&#8221;and the only people that will have any privacy left will be those in solitary confinement, if it is up to him.</p>
<p>Freedom in our great great grandchildren&#8217;s time! Hoorah!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/33398/" rel="nofollow">http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/33398/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael H. Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael H. Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...Mr. Beck is styling himself as a political organizer. In an interview, he said he would promote voter registration drives and sponsor a series of seven conventions across the country featuring what he described as libertarian speakers. &quot;

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/22/business/media/22beck.html?hp


No comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;Mr. Beck is styling himself as a political organizer. In an interview, he said he would promote voter registration drives and sponsor a series of seven conventions across the country featuring what he described as libertarian speakers. &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/22/business/media/22beck.html?hp" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/22/business/media/22beck.html?hp</a></p>
<p>No comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Blanton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Blanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not confusing earned media with bought media (paid media). Earned media is somewhat of a myth when it comes to politics. 

Now, if a LP candidate held a rally and thousands of people showed up, it would be newsworthy and positive coverage might be an example of earned media. Root regurgitating RNC talking points is hardly earned media. There is no groundswell of support for Root bubbling up from the masses that media is taking notice of. There is no unusual or newsworthy message being delivered by Root. Root is merely a fresh face delivering a message that right-wing media wants to hear. The only thing different about Root is that he is not a registered, partisan Republican. He is a &quot;libertarian&quot; with a &quot;conservative&quot; message. This is man bites dog media at best.

In the real world, &quot;earned media&quot; is the type of positive coverage a candidate receives for merely existing, but after having shelled out big bucks for paid media. The press suddenly notices those who spend money on advertising and they don&#039;t like to offend clients by marginalizing them. Every press conference, press release and public appearance suddenly becomes &quot;earned media&quot; when the advertising department is depositing fat checks.

Welcome to America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not confusing earned media with bought media (paid media). Earned media is somewhat of a myth when it comes to politics. </p>
<p>Now, if a LP candidate held a rally and thousands of people showed up, it would be newsworthy and positive coverage might be an example of earned media. Root regurgitating RNC talking points is hardly earned media. There is no groundswell of support for Root bubbling up from the masses that media is taking notice of. There is no unusual or newsworthy message being delivered by Root. Root is merely a fresh face delivering a message that right-wing media wants to hear. The only thing different about Root is that he is not a registered, partisan Republican. He is a &#8220;libertarian&#8221; with a &#8220;conservative&#8221; message. This is man bites dog media at best.</p>
<p>In the real world, &#8220;earned media&#8221; is the type of positive coverage a candidate receives for merely existing, but after having shelled out big bucks for paid media. The press suddenly notices those who spend money on advertising and they don&#8217;t like to offend clients by marginalizing them. Every press conference, press release and public appearance suddenly becomes &#8220;earned media&#8221; when the advertising department is depositing fat checks.</p>
<p>Welcome to America.</p>
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		<title>By: Solomon Drek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Solomon Drek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Libertarians, like so many independents and disaffected Democrats and Republicans, are fiscal conservatives and social liberals — and no one has yet built a lasting coalition out of this growing force.&quot;

Arlen Spector pulled that stunt when he ran for president in 1996 as a self-described &quot;fiscal conservative and social libertarian&quot;.  It didn&#039;t work then and it certainly won&#039;t work now.

Anybody can call themselves a fiscal conservative if they support a balanced budget amendment which would raise taxes to cover spending.  You may get some spending cuts, but lots of fiscal conservatives will support higher spending if the revenue is there to pay for it.  The only practical difference between &quot;fiscal conservatives&quot; (does anybody know any politician who wouldn&#039;t describe themselves as a &quot;fiscal conservative&quot;?) and everybody else is they wouldn&#039;t increase spending by as much as others.  So instead of a 3.3 trillion dollar budget financed by deficits you get a 3.1 trillion dollar budget financed by raising taxes.

The &quot;social liberal&quot; stuff doesn&#039;t fly either.  Alot of libertarians, like Ron Paul, are closet dixiecrats who wrap themselves up in the cloak of &quot;state&#039;s rights&quot; and we all know what that means.   And if libertarians stuck to their principles they would probably find themselves on the opposite side of the fence from those social liberals who support gun control and expansive civil rights legislation, including laws prohibiting discrimination against gays and other minorities.

This whole idea is a nonstarter.  Of course, lots of independent candidates, like Jesse Ventura, have gotten themselves elected as fiscal conservatives and social liberals without the baggage of being labeled or identified with any particular third party ideology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Libertarians, like so many independents and disaffected Democrats and Republicans, are fiscal conservatives and social liberals — and no one has yet built a lasting coalition out of this growing force.&#8221;</p>
<p>Arlen Spector pulled that stunt when he ran for president in 1996 as a self-described &#8220;fiscal conservative and social libertarian&#8221;.  It didn&#8217;t work then and it certainly won&#8217;t work now.</p>
<p>Anybody can call themselves a fiscal conservative if they support a balanced budget amendment which would raise taxes to cover spending.  You may get some spending cuts, but lots of fiscal conservatives will support higher spending if the revenue is there to pay for it.  The only practical difference between &#8220;fiscal conservatives&#8221; (does anybody know any politician who wouldn&#8217;t describe themselves as a &#8220;fiscal conservative&#8221;?) and everybody else is they wouldn&#8217;t increase spending by as much as others.  So instead of a 3.3 trillion dollar budget financed by deficits you get a 3.1 trillion dollar budget financed by raising taxes.</p>
<p>The &#8220;social liberal&#8221; stuff doesn&#8217;t fly either.  Alot of libertarians, like Ron Paul, are closet dixiecrats who wrap themselves up in the cloak of &#8220;state&#8217;s rights&#8221; and we all know what that means.   And if libertarians stuck to their principles they would probably find themselves on the opposite side of the fence from those social liberals who support gun control and expansive civil rights legislation, including laws prohibiting discrimination against gays and other minorities.</p>
<p>This whole idea is a nonstarter.  Of course, lots of independent candidates, like Jesse Ventura, have gotten themselves elected as fiscal conservatives and social liberals without the baggage of being labeled or identified with any particular third party ideology.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Seebeck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Seebeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Tom B. mistakes &quot;earned media&quot; with &quot;bought media&quot;.

Considering the perpetual problem of all non-D/R parties is bodies and cash, buying media isn&#039;t much of an option, and we tend to focus on the earned media instead, and it can happen if done right and done consistently.  Done it myself in the past, but it is a hard and ongoing process.

(Say what you want about Root, BUT...he has been working hard to get earned media.  His problem was message and presentation technique.)

Also, because we always have the bodies and cash problem, we are forced to spend (no pun intended) a lot of time trying to obtain/recruit/get both.  The D/R parties have the luxury of such of the bodies to get the cash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Tom B. mistakes &#8220;earned media&#8221; with &#8220;bought media&#8221;.</p>
<p>Considering the perpetual problem of all non-D/R parties is bodies and cash, buying media isn&#8217;t much of an option, and we tend to focus on the earned media instead, and it can happen if done right and done consistently.  Done it myself in the past, but it is a hard and ongoing process.</p>
<p>(Say what you want about Root, BUT&#8230;he has been working hard to get earned media.  His problem was message and presentation technique.)</p>
<p>Also, because we always have the bodies and cash problem, we are forced to spend (no pun intended) a lot of time trying to obtain/recruit/get both.  The D/R parties have the luxury of such of the bodies to get the cash.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael H. Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael H. Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well guys we need to try harder.  

For years I have suggested that we need to work on building the local parties. I haven&#039;t had much success at getting thru to others but I persist.  If that would happen we then would have a larger group to recruit candidates from. 

Some states with large populations have a couple of small congressional districts where walking  just might be possible and being in saturated media markets, TV and radio  advertising is not an effective use of campaign dollars. Yards signs, and well developed door hangers might work much better. 

&#039;Course you need a campaign that is not a clone of the R&amp;D faction but that is specifically Libertarian in nature and positive as well based around Civil Liberties, the benefits of &quot;Open Markets&quot; and a non interventionist foreign policy and putting money back in people&#039;s pockets.

Unfortunately I think I have a better chance of pushing a peanut up hill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well guys we need to try harder.  </p>
<p>For years I have suggested that we need to work on building the local parties. I haven&#8217;t had much success at getting thru to others but I persist.  If that would happen we then would have a larger group to recruit candidates from. </p>
<p>Some states with large populations have a couple of small congressional districts where walking  just might be possible and being in saturated media markets, TV and radio  advertising is not an effective use of campaign dollars. Yards signs, and well developed door hangers might work much better. </p>
<p>&#8216;Course you need a campaign that is not a clone of the R&amp;D faction but that is specifically Libertarian in nature and positive as well based around Civil Liberties, the benefits of &#8220;Open Markets&#8221; and a non interventionist foreign policy and putting money back in people&#8217;s pockets.</p>
<p>Unfortunately I think I have a better chance of pushing a peanut up hill.</p>
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		<title>By: robert capozzi</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert capozzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tb, sure, I agree.  Winning is unlikely, esp. with little funding.  I don&#039;t know any L candidates who think they will win offices other than local ones, so I&#039;m not sure what you&#039;re spun up about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tb, sure, I agree.  Winning is unlikely, esp. with little funding.  I don&#8217;t know any L candidates who think they will win offices other than local ones, so I&#8217;m not sure what you&#8217;re spun up about.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Lake, A Modest Proposal ...........</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Lake, A Modest Proposal ...........</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Blanton  // Nov 21, 2009:

...&quot; like a high school band that thinks they will become rock stars after playing one gig at the local skating rink on a Saturday afternoon....&quot;

As a non LP with some Lib stripes may I offer the additional observations.....

[a]    Libs need to get out of the Debating Society mode .....

[b]  Libs need to embrace the real world, real people and their real problems ......

[c]  Libs need to reach out to non Lib allies ........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Blanton  // Nov 21, 2009:</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8221; like a high school band that thinks they will become rock stars after playing one gig at the local skating rink on a Saturday afternoon&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>As a non LP with some Lib stripes may I offer the additional observations&#8230;..</p>
<p>[a]    Libs need to get out of the Debating Society mode &#8230;..</p>
<p>[b]  Libs need to embrace the real world, real people and their real problems &#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>[c]  Libs need to reach out to non Lib allies &#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Blanton</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/11/fast-company-high-profile-ceos-could-revitalize-libertarian-party/comment-page-1/#comment-132176</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Blanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Capozzi, why do you equate selling libertarianism with a lunatic standing on a soapbox on the street reading a Rothbard book?

My only point is that without huge amounts of cash, LP candidates will never win an election to a national office. Therefore, LP candidates without huge amounts of cash should concentrate on delivering a libertarian message as opposed to trying to bullshit their way into office with nonlibertarian rhetoric they mistakingly think will catapult them into certain victory. The notion that winning elections without megabucks is so naive that it is the epitome of unprofessionalism. There is nothing professional, credible or pragmatic about going on a fool&#039;s errand (like thinking you can win a congressional seat with a $5,000 warchest).

The LP is becoming more and more like a high school band that thinks they will become rock stars after playing one gig at the local skating rink on a Saturday afternoon. That shit is only in the movies. B-movies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capozzi, why do you equate selling libertarianism with a lunatic standing on a soapbox on the street reading a Rothbard book?</p>
<p>My only point is that without huge amounts of cash, LP candidates will never win an election to a national office. Therefore, LP candidates without huge amounts of cash should concentrate on delivering a libertarian message as opposed to trying to bullshit their way into office with nonlibertarian rhetoric they mistakingly think will catapult them into certain victory. The notion that winning elections without megabucks is so naive that it is the epitome of unprofessionalism. There is nothing professional, credible or pragmatic about going on a fool&#8217;s errand (like thinking you can win a congressional seat with a $5,000 warchest).</p>
<p>The LP is becoming more and more like a high school band that thinks they will become rock stars after playing one gig at the local skating rink on a Saturday afternoon. That shit is only in the movies. B-movies.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael H. Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/11/fast-company-high-profile-ceos-could-revitalize-libertarian-party/comment-page-1/#comment-132164</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael H. Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have included this url in my last post. How one walks a district is important. Mail carriers have developed a fairly good system that we might follow and all though I have not checked this out personally it look like the carrier route maps can be obtained from this company http://www.maponicsonlinestore.com/products/carrier-route-maps/carrier-route-maps.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have included this url in my last post. How one walks a district is important. Mail carriers have developed a fairly good system that we might follow and all though I have not checked this out personally it look like the carrier route maps can be obtained from this company <a href="http://www.maponicsonlinestore.com/products/carrier-route-maps/carrier-route-maps.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.maponicsonlinestore.com/products/carrier-route-maps/carrier-route-maps.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael H. Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/11/fast-company-high-profile-ceos-could-revitalize-libertarian-party/comment-page-1/#comment-132160</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael H. Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional or otherwise there has to be a commitment to getting out and going door to door. We just had a candidate here in Washington state who did just that and in his first time in a campaign managed to get 48.7% of the vote out of some 20,000 votes cast. Did he do enough? Obviously not but he did make the effort of door to door campaigning.

Finding those small campaigns that  have a specific district where the candidate can walk it is best suited for what we need at the moment. Add a well designed door hanger, dress decently, answer all the inquires without being a smartass and start early. Don&#039;t wait till Labor Day.

Btw it was a school board seat he was running for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional or otherwise there has to be a commitment to getting out and going door to door. We just had a candidate here in Washington state who did just that and in his first time in a campaign managed to get 48.7% of the vote out of some 20,000 votes cast. Did he do enough? Obviously not but he did make the effort of door to door campaigning.</p>
<p>Finding those small campaigns that  have a specific district where the candidate can walk it is best suited for what we need at the moment. Add a well designed door hanger, dress decently, answer all the inquires without being a smartass and start early. Don&#8217;t wait till Labor Day.</p>
<p>Btw it was a school board seat he was running for.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Capozzi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Capozzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tb, please note that I suggesting being as professional and credible AS POSSIBLE.

Think of it this way:  There&#039;s a continuum of professionalism--from a soapbox lunatic on the street corner reading FOR A NEW LIBERTY, HUMAN ACTION, and selected Long and Hoppe essays, to the Obama campaign.

All LP campaigns that I&#039;m aware of fall somewhere in the middle of those polar extremes.  The soapbox lunatic is all steak; Obama was almost all sizzle.

The lunatic may attract a few to his/her campaign, but methinks most will never hear his/her words, and those that do won&#039;t stop to listen.  Is that really &quot;selling Lism&quot;?  I&#039;d say no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tb, please note that I suggesting being as professional and credible AS POSSIBLE.</p>
<p>Think of it this way:  There&#8217;s a continuum of professionalism&#8211;from a soapbox lunatic on the street corner reading FOR A NEW LIBERTY, HUMAN ACTION, and selected Long and Hoppe essays, to the Obama campaign.</p>
<p>All LP campaigns that I&#8217;m aware of fall somewhere in the middle of those polar extremes.  The soapbox lunatic is all steak; Obama was almost all sizzle.</p>
<p>The lunatic may attract a few to his/her campaign, but methinks most will never hear his/her words, and those that do won&#8217;t stop to listen.  Is that really &#8220;selling Lism&#8221;?  I&#8217;d say no.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Capozzi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Capozzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>srl, yes, the majors use marketing tactics to differentiate and position their candidate.  Sometimes they seem gimmicky, agreed.

My comment was referring to the notion of split and multiple-candidate tickets, and the general calibre of candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>srl, yes, the majors use marketing tactics to differentiate and position their candidate.  Sometimes they seem gimmicky, agreed.</p>
<p>My comment was referring to the notion of split and multiple-candidate tickets, and the general calibre of candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Blanton</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/11/fast-company-high-profile-ceos-could-revitalize-libertarian-party/comment-page-1/#comment-131994</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Blanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’d like to see our candidates appear as professional and credible as possible.&quot;

LP candidates will appear professional and credible when they start dropping the same amount of dough as their opposition in ad buys. This is what &quot;earned media&quot; is really all about. If you want positive coverage, spend large amounts of money on media ads.

My congressman, Bobby Scott, spent $500K in 2008 and essentially ran unopposed. The other half of my city is represented by Eric Cantor. He has an extremely safe seat, yet he spent $3.8 million.

It&#039;s time for libertarians to get real. Even if a candidate for congress manages to raise $500K, the GOP and the Dems will make it as hard as possible anyway. It&#039;s all about the money. It always has been and always will be.

All the sophomoronic strategizing, platform tweaking, tactical rhetoric, flag waving, and ear-hair trimming don&#039;t mean shit without the cash. Lots of cash.

This is why a LP campaign should be about selling libertarianism, not &quot;true conservatism&quot; or neolibertarianism or social liberalism/fiscal conservatism. It shouldn&#039;t be about anything else. Because, without the cash, no LP candidate is going to win and even with the cash, the odds aren&#039;t good.

So, wake up goofballs. Go raise some money if you really want to play this fucked up little game and win. Would you take a roll of dimes to Vegas and expect to go home in a Brink&#039;s truck?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’d like to see our candidates appear as professional and credible as possible.&#8221;</p>
<p>LP candidates will appear professional and credible when they start dropping the same amount of dough as their opposition in ad buys. This is what &#8220;earned media&#8221; is really all about. If you want positive coverage, spend large amounts of money on media ads.</p>
<p>My congressman, Bobby Scott, spent $500K in 2008 and essentially ran unopposed. The other half of my city is represented by Eric Cantor. He has an extremely safe seat, yet he spent $3.8 million.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time for libertarians to get real. Even if a candidate for congress manages to raise $500K, the GOP and the Dems will make it as hard as possible anyway. It&#8217;s all about the money. It always has been and always will be.</p>
<p>All the sophomoronic strategizing, platform tweaking, tactical rhetoric, flag waving, and ear-hair trimming don&#8217;t mean shit without the cash. Lots of cash.</p>
<p>This is why a LP campaign should be about selling libertarianism, not &#8220;true conservatism&#8221; or neolibertarianism or social liberalism/fiscal conservatism. It shouldn&#8217;t be about anything else. Because, without the cash, no LP candidate is going to win and even with the cash, the odds aren&#8217;t good.</p>
<p>So, wake up goofballs. Go raise some money if you really want to play this fucked up little game and win. Would you take a roll of dimes to Vegas and expect to go home in a Brink&#8217;s truck?</p>
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