Comments on: Election night open thread

By: Myles

Myles — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:45:29 +0000

To Joe and ‘me’:
You’re correct in most of what you’re saying.
The candidate was Kevin Zeese. Only the Maryland Green Party was dumb enough to give him a ballot line for his campaign. Immediately afterwards he ran as an Independent. When even asked by the media what party he was one of his sons/campaign worker said he’s ‘Independent’. Basically he punked the GP in this state.
Also, 3 times the GP candidate for governor, Ed Boyd (presente) and his running mate made overtures to the Zeese campaign for a mutual endorsement; common sense as both were state-wide races in the same party. What we didn’t know was that he was behind the scenes, and even up front at times, promoting a 4th party candidate who’s only success in this election was to deny Boyd the 1% needed for 2 more years of ballot access. They got it by petitioning, just the same.
Zeese also lied to my wife, part of the Boyd campaign, and a candidate herself for a State Delegate’s position, about his role in this whole affair; that he was working on behalf of the other party against ‘his own’.
I speak from authority as I was the campaign manager for the Boyd/Madigan ticket.
He was no anomaly. He knew very well how to take a weak party and manipulate it for his own personal aggrandizement.
Some state GP’s are very weak and very susceptible to charlatans that speak well and have $ connections but not an ounce of integrity.

His entourage of 2 or 3 were even running as Greens in other elections while serving as members of the governing body of that 4th party. Their screeds on list serves that were against us, and even from one who was on vacation , bordered on the deranged and pathetic.

They couldn’t handle real Green activists who had the balls to stand up to hypocrites, bigots and morons, even when some were Green.

This is over. I and my wife have moved on. We even are no longer in the Party although we have supported the good Reverend. We support good, real Greens, and if we should move to another state we’d gladly join the GP again if they focus on politics and not pure personalities.

By: Joe Momma

Joe Momma — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:54:10 +0000

“Adding blocs of votes & maximizing instead of competing & minimizing etc”

…and he played two of the parties against one another, from what i hear.

By: Joe Momma

Joe Momma — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:51:50 +0000

….there was confusion and ambivalence because the candidate was an opportunist who told the media that he was an “Independent” after he got the nomination.

By: Robert Milnes

Robert Milnes — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:53:38 +0000

Me, I already know about it. It doesn’t count. It basically was an anomaly. There was confusion, ambivalence, uncertainty etc. this time the whole thing will be thoroughly publicized with emphasis on voter education of what is asked of them. & clarification of what it is NOT- merger of the two parties, renunciation of beliefs, one party having preference etc. & what it IS-vote coordination. Adding blocs of votes & maximizing insteadof competing & minimizing etc.

By: me

me — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:19:32 +0000

Do your researchL PLAS was tried in Maryland esnate race in 2006, much to the ire of many Greens in that state and at the shock of many Greens nationally for the MD Greens allowing it. Anyway, it was a miserable failure.

By: Don Lake, late at night

Don Lake, late at night — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:25:55 +0000

Third Party Revolution // Nov 4, 2009 at 9:55 pm

“Hopefully 2010 will be our year.”

—– Hopefully 2008 was to be our year, but it wasn’t!

By: Chris Cole

Chris Cole — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:22:12 +0000

In Charlotte, NC, Libertarian Travis Wheat received 6600 votes, 1.7%, in a partisan race for city council. He was one of nine candidates for four seats elected at-large (there are also seven seats elected from districts). That compares to LP candidates who received 4600 votes in 2001 and 5500 votes in 2003 in the same race (Libertarians weren’t ballot-qualified for ‘05 and ‘07 elections). In NC, the Libertarian Party is the only ballot-qualified alternative party.

By: Robert Milnes

Robert Milnes — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:04:38 +0000

paganstorm, sorry, I meant to say you have joined The Crazy Losers Club. Whether you like it or not.

By: Robert Milnes

Robert Milnes — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:01:23 +0000

pro pot anti pot, I look forward to the possibility of meeting Catholic Trotskyist &/or The Last Conservative in Massachusetts. TPR, with a win in Massachusetts in the U.S. Senate, 2010 would get off to a roaring start! paganstorm, yes you are crazy here. As to your second question, let’s ask Prof. Phillies. According to him the LP is giving the Kennedy campaign some sort of ambivalent signals.

By: libertariangirl

libertariangirl — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:58:28 +0000

Paganstorm , THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION!

By: paganstorm

paganstorm — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:23:38 +0000

Am I crazy here, or should there have been something on the Libertarian Party’s website mentioning there was an election coming up? Isn’t that what political parties do?

By: Third Party Revolution

Third Party Revolution — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:55:49 +0000

Hopefully 2010 will be our year.

By: Pro-Pot Anti-Pot

Pro-Pot Anti-Pot — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:50:54 +0000

Ironically, Catholic Trotskyist, “The Last Conservative” and I almost moved to Boston. But we decided to stay in sunny California. But if Catholic Trotskyist and The Last Conservative finish their mission for the Vatican, maybe they can go to Massachusetts to campaign for the PLAS.

By: Robert Milnes

Robert Milnes — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:46:13 +0000

George, Solomon Drek @68 says he saw Kennedy on a free oil commercial. Is that right? Would that be Bobby Kennedy’s son’s Citgo oil free home heating oil program? Venezuela gave Bush a finger by offering Citgo oil to this program. Good program. Good segue for Joe Kennedy to get some publicity. Evidently Kennedy cares more about the poor & his program than he does about who replaces his uncle in the Senate. Good for BOTH Kennedys!

By: NewFederalist

NewFederalist — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:21:48 +0000

OR… the LP could just meet in a phone booth (if there still are any!)