Comments on: CA: Nov. election will probably lead to 3-party special election http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/11/ca-nov-election-will-probably-lead-to-3-party-special-election/ Covering America's third parties and independent candidates since May 2008 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 01:29:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Third Party Revolution http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/11/ca-nov-election-will-probably-lead-to-3-party-special-election/comment-page-1/#comment-151476 Third Party Revolution Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:34:40 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10763#comment-151476 Actually I have found the results. She did fairly well with 6.1% of the vote: http://www.ocvote.com/live/72ndgen/results.htm Actually I have found the results. She did fairly well with 6.1% of the vote: http://www.ocvote.com/live/72ndgen/results.htm

]]> By: Third Party Revolution http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/11/ca-nov-election-will-probably-lead-to-3-party-special-election/comment-page-1/#comment-151437 Third Party Revolution Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:30:37 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10763#comment-151437 So how did she do? So how did she do?

]]> By: Third Party Revolution http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/11/ca-nov-election-will-probably-lead-to-3-party-special-election/comment-page-1/#comment-130125 Third Party Revolution Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:10:58 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10763#comment-130125 We here at Third Party Revolution endorse Jane Rands in her campaign for California's 72nd Assembly Seat, along with many other third party and independent candidates seeking public offices nationwide, ranging from local to federal levels. We here at Third Party Revolution endorse Jane Rands in her campaign for California’s 72nd Assembly Seat, along with many other third party and independent candidates seeking public offices nationwide, ranging from local to federal levels.

]]> By: Morgan Brykein http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/11/ca-nov-election-will-probably-lead-to-3-party-special-election/comment-page-1/#comment-130094 Morgan Brykein Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:33:02 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10763#comment-130094 On that issue, I think the size of the House should be increased, to where each district has around 350,000 people. That way, it might be a little easier for a third party candidate to be viable. On that issue, I think the size of the House should be increased, to where each district has around 350,000 people. That way, it might be a little easier for a third party candidate to be viable.

]]> By: Mik Robertson http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/11/ca-nov-election-will-probably-lead-to-3-party-special-election/comment-page-1/#comment-129997 Mik Robertson Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:53:15 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10763#comment-129997 There are limits on the size of legislative body that will still allow reasonable time for representatives to present views in debate on issues. Too big and all representatives will not have an opportunity to effectively present ideas in debate. That does not increase representation in the legislative process. The 435 members of The US House of Representatives probably represent the upper limit of what can be an effective deliberative body. That said there is room for expansion in California. In Pennsylvania the House has 203 members and the Senate 50, but it is set up very poorly. Both chambers are based on population, so you have these overlapping election districts (all badly gerrymandered). Each Representative has about 60,000 constituents and each senator has about 250,000 constituents. I think it would make more sense to have one senator from each county in the senate and representatives in the house with districts based on population. So if someone gets over 50% in this primary vote, is the election over? There are limits on the size of legislative body that will still allow reasonable time for representatives to present views in debate on issues. Too big and all representatives will not have an opportunity to effectively present ideas in debate. That does not increase representation in the legislative process.

The 435 members of The US House of Representatives probably represent the upper limit of what can be an effective deliberative body. That said there is room for expansion in California.

In Pennsylvania the House has 203 members and the Senate 50, but it is set up very poorly. Both chambers are based on population, so you have these overlapping election districts (all badly gerrymandered). Each Representative has about 60,000 constituents and each senator has about 250,000 constituents. I think it would make more sense to have one senator from each county in the senate and representatives in the house with districts based on population.

So if someone gets over 50% in this primary vote, is the election over?

]]> By: VAGreen http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/11/ca-nov-election-will-probably-lead-to-3-party-special-election/comment-page-1/#comment-129975 VAGreen Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:06:04 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10763#comment-129975 Morgen, While it may be easier to win a state legislative race than to win statewide, it's very hard to win in California. There are only 80 seats in the Assembly and 40 seats in the Senate, compared to the 53 seats that California holds in the House of Representatives. Virginia has 100 seats in the House of Delegates and 40 seats in the Senate; its population is roughly one-fifth of California's. I hope that California drastically increases the size of its legislature. Morgen,

While it may be easier to win a state legislative race than to win statewide, it’s very hard to win in California. There are only 80 seats in the Assembly and 40 seats in the Senate, compared to the 53 seats that California holds in the House of Representatives. Virginia has 100 seats in the House of Delegates and 40 seats in the Senate; its population is roughly one-fifth of California’s. I hope that California drastically increases the size of its legislature.

]]> By: Robert Milnes http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/11/ca-nov-election-will-probably-lead-to-3-party-special-election/comment-page-1/#comment-129966 Robert Milnes Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:45:40 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10763#comment-129966 Morgan Brykein, assuming the Green party provides some campaign support for this candidate, do you think an influx of Green AND Libertarian activists from all over starting Jan. 2 could provide an effective campaigm? Morgan Brykein, assuming the Green party provides some campaign support for this candidate, do you think an influx of Green AND Libertarian activists from all over starting Jan. 2 could provide an effective campaigm?

]]> By: Morgan Brykein http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/11/ca-nov-election-will-probably-lead-to-3-party-special-election/comment-page-1/#comment-129924 Morgan Brykein Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:41:24 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10763#comment-129924 The state legislature is the easiest state-level position for a third party candidate to get into. All they need is an effective campaign. The state legislature is the easiest state-level position for a third party candidate to get into. All they need is an effective campaign.

]]> By: tiradefaction http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/11/ca-nov-election-will-probably-lead-to-3-party-special-election/comment-page-1/#comment-129915 tiradefaction Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:05:54 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10763#comment-129915 @7 Lol...ok @7

Lol…ok

]]> By: Robert Milnes http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/11/ca-nov-election-will-probably-lead-to-3-party-special-election/comment-page-1/#comment-129914 Robert Milnes Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:01:15 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10763#comment-129914 tiradefaction,with politics as usual a Green couldn't win. Makes the point even better! tiradefaction,with politics as usual a Green couldn’t win. Makes the point even better!

]]> By: tiradefaction http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/11/ca-nov-election-will-probably-lead-to-3-party-special-election/comment-page-1/#comment-129911 tiradefaction Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:51:56 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10763#comment-129911 @5 I live in OC, and I don't see a Green really winning here (anytime soon). We are home of the John Birch society after all.... @5

I live in OC, and I don’t see a Green really winning here (anytime soon). We are home of the John Birch society after all….

]]> By: Robert Milnes http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/11/ca-nov-election-will-probably-lead-to-3-party-special-election/comment-page-1/#comment-129905 Robert Milnes Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:29:38 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10763#comment-129905 Oh, this is really good! This is a clear opportunity for a parallel PLAS Experiment in California in January! This is a clearly Republican district? !!!!!!!!!!!Massachusetts is a clearly Democratic state!!!!!!Now, if a Libertarian were to win in democratic liberal Massachusetts in January & a Green were to win in CA republican district in January, something is A FOOT! I say On Jan 2, cold weather loving Green & Libertarian activists go to Massachusetts & warm weather loving activists go to CA & CAMPAIGN! till Jan 19 & 12 respectively. The PLAS Experiment is ON BOTH COASTS! Oh, this is really good! This is a clear opportunity for a parallel PLAS Experiment in California in January! This is a clearly Republican district? !!!!!!!!!!!Massachusetts is a clearly Democratic state!!!!!!Now, if a Libertarian were to win in democratic liberal Massachusetts in January & a Green were to win in CA republican district in January, something is A FOOT! I say On Jan 2, cold weather loving Green & Libertarian activists go to Massachusetts & warm weather loving activists go to CA & CAMPAIGN! till Jan 19 & 12 respectively. The PLAS Experiment is ON BOTH COASTS!

]]> By: tiradefaction http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/11/ca-nov-election-will-probably-lead-to-3-party-special-election/comment-page-1/#comment-129788 tiradefaction Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:25:00 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10763#comment-129788 Correction "Maybe I will, if I end up liking her as a candidate, and a campaigner , and am able". Correction “Maybe I will, if I end up liking her as a candidate, and a campaigner , and am able”.

]]> By: tiradefaction http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/11/ca-nov-election-will-probably-lead-to-3-party-special-election/comment-page-1/#comment-129756 tiradefaction Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:07:12 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10763#comment-129756 Maybe I will, I'll have to check it out though. Maybe I will, I’ll have to check it out though.

]]> By: Ross Levin http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/11/ca-nov-election-will-probably-lead-to-3-party-special-election/comment-page-1/#comment-129753 Ross Levin Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:59:51 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10763#comment-129753 You could still volunteer for her if you you're interested. You could still volunteer for her if you you’re interested.

]]> By: tiradefaction http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/11/ca-nov-election-will-probably-lead-to-3-party-special-election/comment-page-1/#comment-129751 tiradefaction Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:46:04 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10763#comment-129751 Unfortunately I'm not in the 72nd district, as I'm in lower Orange County. Don't know much about Rands, but hope she can at least make an impact. Unfortunately I’m not in the 72nd district, as I’m in lower Orange County.

Don’t know much about Rands, but hope she can at least make an impact.

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