Thanks for clearing that up.

I did take a look at your stuff, but must say that I am a bit appalled in perhaps some unfounded way that you posted the name of the IP registrant. While I know these things are very easy to track, I can’t help but think that maybe some form of etiquette was breached.

I guess I am saying that you don’t need to try so hard. I respect the fact that you have found a political group to promote, but you know…

By the way, I asked about the AZ intelligence fort from people who should know. From what I’ve been told, a number of installations where people use military servers to browse the Internet will go through that base, and it’s not necessarily intelligence gathering.

I hope you enjoyed your visits to my blog yesterday, after visiting this Independent Political Report website yesterday, having clicked on my name here for the link, according to my StatCounter report. I’m posting this here today just in case you return.

Are you any relation to Joe Liberman? I read your profile at Wiki, Zoom, and a few other places. None of those noted that, but being in DC and/or related to Joe might explain your interest here, and perhaps your lengthy visit at my blog – unless you left the window open to my main blog for over 4 hours yesterday afternoon while doing somethine else. Are you a fan of science fiction? You only gave my separate political blog a glance.

StatCounter has proved to be very useful to monitor visitors of my blogs. It revealed Google’s working relationship with Obama, which I then found a news story about. It also showed US Army Intelligence at a base in Arizona used to monitor people on Obama’s “snitch” list – people who now oppose him and say so in their blogs and forums. It is my opinion that Obama using US Army Intelligence to monitor Americans who now oppose him is a gross abuse of power and violation of the US Constitution First Amendment for Freedom of Speech and Press. My new email address is noted at my blogs, and you may contact me if you have any questions about that.

Have a good day!

Susan: Excellent, so far. Anything else? I found your blog. Nice blog. Keep up the good work.

How the streets get built or schools get financed within that context is an interesting discussion, but only of side interest. If it isn’t done voluntarily, it’s done by slave labor, and I’m an abolitionist.

A few months ago I scored on the line between Libertarian and Centrist, and today scored above the Centrist line and into the Libertarian area of the results of the World’s Smallest Political Quiz. I don’t know how accurate that quiz is. I have a good neighbor who is a good Libertarian, so I learn a little from him. I’ve looked it up online. You are welcome to post links here for Libertarian websites, which you believe might interest me, and I will check them out. Or email me with any information you want to send via the new email address I have noted with the form for this posting if you have access to that, or email me at the email address I posted at the top right of the page of my blog hereafterebooks.blogspot.com now titled Science Fiction Realms.

I’m normally [but not always] offline 7pm to 7am CST. I usually check for emails about 7am, around noon, and about 6pm. I post at my blogs and check forums like this one when I have time. I wanted you to know that in case you try to contact me and don’t get a reply right away – I’m not snubbing you – I will get back to you via email, or here, as soon as possible. I’m about to sign off now. fixing dinner, going to watch NBC TV tonight. Have a good night!

Everyone, have a good night!

I got it that you’ve changed and now think a vote for a ‘loser’ can still be worthwhile, and thanks for the clarification. I just think you’ll have a hard time getting enthusiasm for a centrist platform, and I think that without an ideological compass you’ll be more likely to choose positions based on (perceived) popularity than on whether you think they’re correct or will ‘work’. Even strongly ideological parties like the LP have this problem :-/

Don’t take the lively discussion here too hard, or worry too much about being ‘attacked’. This thread is about centrist parties, so naturally the non-centrists want to challenge and question you.

This is interesting:

If Democrats and Republicans were visiting this website, then they would love it that some of the people here are attacking each other, instead of seeking common ground to build a party against them.

“Building a party against them” may be your goal, but it’s not mine. I’m more interested in building a party *for* something (Libertarians and libertarianism). Maybe at some point you’ll join me. If you have a question about libertarianism, feel free to ask.

I confess my sin of being a registered Republican when last November I voted for Obama. But, now, which was the sin? I now believe voting for Obama was a mistake. I still believe voting for McCain would have been a worse mistake than voting for Obama. Even if a third choice can’t win at this time, voting for that third choice would have been the right thing to do, if that third choice is someone in a party I can be mostly in agreement with. I’m not looking for a party that is in agreement with everything I believe, because I’d end up being in a party of one, like many of them out there now noted at the DC Political Report website. I am seeking a party with which I can agree with most of what they believe. Diplomacy and negotiation is necessary, give and take, decide what is most important I will not sacrifice, and what is not as important that I can give up. I give up item B to get item A, and the other side gives up item C to get item A. Progress is made because both sides can agree on item A and were willing to sacrifice items B and C.

Some people here are attacking other people’s positions, such as Andrew and I being attacked. But those doing the attacking are only attacking, and are not offering any of their own views. You are against me and my views. So we know what you are agaisnt, but what are you for? What is your position? What are your views? Give it a shot! Who knows? You might win me over! You can’t win me over by attacking me. But you might win me over by presenting your position and views. I’m sincerely and respectfully at a point at which I’m interested in all views. I don’t want my choices to be limited to just the traditional 2 choices of Democrats or Republicans. If Democrats and Republicans were visiting this website, then they would love it that some of the people here are attacking each other, instead of seeking common ground to build a party against them.

Correction. I meant to write: If someone far to the LEFT can get elected [in the Far Right state of Kansas], then surely someone closer to the Center – drawing people from the near left and near Right – can have an even better chance of getting elected.

Umm, yeah, especially if you’re registered Republican.

I like this website, Independent Political Report. I will give it a link at my new blog when I finish setting it up. Andrew Evans, Chair of American Centrist Party, told me about it in an email. It is not a surprise to me that some of the people posting here are not in agreement with each other, because it is my opinion that the middle – moderates – centrists – and others – are just an AVERAGE of the Left and Right, having no clear common ground and direction. That is the huge advantage that the well established Left and Right have, and is the huge disadvantage of the people in the middle. Even so, I believe our numbers are growing. I don’t mean the ACP. I mean everyone in the middle who do not consider themselves to be left wing liberal Democrats or right wing conservative Republicans. I do wonder why some of the people posting here are posting here, if not simply trolls, because it is my impression from some of their postings in which they attack other people here they appear to hate everyone in the middle. Makes me conclude they are here from the far left or far Right just to cause trouble. But as the previously noted political quiz shows, not everything is on the Left to Right line, as some people can fall below that line or rise above it.

I have one suggestion you might like. Create a Polls feature here at the Independent Political Report website. Use it to find out if any of the people visiting here have any common ground at all, if there is anything we can agree on. I’d like to know. Then, from results of polls on different subjects, set up new forums where the people who are in agreement can communicate and get organized. Maybe then we can make a difference for the better. I have no doubt that the “middle” is growing fast. But unless enough of us get well enough organized, then it will not matter.