Comments on: Working Families Party accused of ballot fraud in Troy, NY http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/09/working-families-party-accused-of-ballot-fraud-in-troy-ny/ Covering America's third parties and independent candidates since May 2008 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:12:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: libertariangirl http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/09/working-families-party-accused-of-ballot-fraud-in-troy-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-110408 libertariangirl Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:07:44 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10382#comment-110408 tru dat! tru dat!

]]> By: Steven R Linnabary http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/09/working-families-party-accused-of-ballot-fraud-in-troy-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-110406 Steven R Linnabary Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:55:11 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10382#comment-110406 <i>Voter fraud is entirely an operation of the Left, and of Leftwing Parties, most notably the Democrat Party USA.</i> Eric, I'll be the first to admit that election and petition laws are written in such a convoluted manner as to invite either fraud, or the appearance of fraud. I have never been accused of faking signatures. I seem to recall that YOU have been accused of this, and it made national news. Were you working for the democrats or some lefty organization when this happened? FWIW, I don't think you did anything wrong. But there is an old adage about those that live in glass houses... PEACE Voter fraud is entirely an operation of the Left, and of Leftwing Parties, most notably the Democrat Party USA.

Eric, I’ll be the first to admit that election and petition laws are written in such a convoluted manner as to invite either fraud, or the appearance of fraud.

I have never been accused of faking signatures. I seem to recall that YOU have been accused of this, and it made national news.

Were you working for the democrats or some lefty organization when this happened?

FWIW, I don’t think you did anything wrong. But there is an old adage about those that live in glass houses…

PEACE

]]> By: Dave Schwab http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/09/working-families-party-accused-of-ballot-fraud-in-troy-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-110378 Dave Schwab Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:09:56 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10382#comment-110378 Hey, did anyone ever read "How to Rig an Election: Confessions of a Republican Operative"? http://www.amazon.com/How-Rig-Election-Confessions-Republican/dp/1416552227 Hey, did anyone ever read “How to Rig an Election: Confessions of a Republican Operative”?

http://www.amazon.com/How-Rig-Election-Confessions-Republican/dp/1416552227

]]> By: Lou Novak http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/09/working-families-party-accused-of-ballot-fraud-in-troy-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-110216 Lou Novak Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:27:49 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10382#comment-110216 I gotta agree with Michael on this one. After the 2000 and 2004 presidential election fiascos, anyone who thinks election fraud is only on the left has their head up their ass. I gotta agree with Michael on this one. After the 2000 and 2004 presidential election fiascos, anyone who thinks election fraud is only on the left has their head up their ass.

]]> By: Skyler McKinley http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/09/working-families-party-accused-of-ballot-fraud-in-troy-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-110083 Skyler McKinley Wed, 30 Sep 2009 04:36:24 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10382#comment-110083 Eric, You are no longer politically relevant. I appreciate that you have your opinions, and I appreciate indulging in them from time to time. However, broad generalizations aren't going to help you become relevant again. I submit to you these headlines: Analyst: GOP voter fraud scandal 'really serious' McCain Employing GOP Operative Accused Of Voter Registration Fraud Voter Fraud Charges Out West. GOP Group Under Investigation In Oregon Five Kentucky Election Officials Arrested for Election Fraud Using ES & S ivotronic touchscreen The list goes on an on. Inherent in political parties is the urge to *win* elections. Whereas we assume the leadership of these parties will choose the moral and ethical path when it comes to elections, there will always be outlying examples of fraud regardless of the party or circumstance. To say anything to the contrary is nothing short of folly. Eric,

You are no longer politically relevant. I appreciate that you have your opinions, and I appreciate indulging in them from time to time. However, broad generalizations aren’t going to help you become relevant again.

I submit to you these headlines:

Analyst: GOP voter fraud scandal ‘really serious’

McCain Employing GOP Operative Accused Of
Voter Registration Fraud

Voter Fraud Charges Out West. GOP Group Under Investigation In Oregon

Five Kentucky Election Officials Arrested for Election Fraud Using ES & S ivotronic touchscreen

The list goes on an on. Inherent in political parties is the urge to *win* elections. Whereas we assume the leadership of these parties will choose the moral and ethical path when it comes to elections, there will always be outlying examples of fraud regardless of the party or circumstance. To say anything to the contrary is nothing short of folly.

]]> By: Michael Cavlan http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/09/working-families-party-accused-of-ballot-fraud-in-troy-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-110050 Michael Cavlan Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:06:51 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10382#comment-110050 Eric Dondero is usually such an idiot that there is no point in answering his points. His head is so fully ensconced up his ass that his colon presses against his ears, so the idiot could not hear what you are saying. Having said that his idiotic ramblings, picked up from his Fox News induced haze of ignorance needs to be challenged this time. According to this bright bulb, it is only the "left" that are accused of election fraud. Ok, that may be true in Fox News Land, but right here in the real world, that fact could not be farther from the truth. Now remember, I HATE Democrats so this is no defense of them. I was an Official Green Party observer in Ohio 2004. Among the myriad ways that right wingers stole THAT election was by, what can only be called "stop the nigra's and poor folks from voting." In a blatant, organized and systematic way all over the country. With SOS's using their power to ensure that black communities and poor neighborhoods did not have access to the right to vote and have their vote counted. Then there was the "questionable" practices of Triad, ES&S and Die-bold voting machine technicians and of the machines themselves. In one precinct in Toledo County, Ohio of the 800 people who voted, 3,500 voted for GW Bush. This is one that we actually caught. How many we never found because of the spinelessness (or complicity) of the Democrats, we will never know. As an aside, I watched Glen Beck on Fox News today. Oh my dear God, these folks are unbelievable. Dumb as dirt and with less common sense than what God granted to turnips. Eric Dondero is usually such an idiot that there is no point in answering his points. His head is so fully ensconced up his ass that his colon presses against his ears, so the idiot could not hear what you are saying.

Having said that his idiotic ramblings, picked up from his Fox News induced haze of ignorance needs to be challenged this time.

According to this bright bulb, it is only the “left” that are accused of election fraud. Ok, that may be true in Fox News Land, but right here in the real world, that fact could not be farther from the truth.

Now remember, I HATE Democrats so this is no defense of them.

I was an Official Green Party observer in Ohio 2004. Among the myriad ways that right wingers stole THAT election was by, what can only be called “stop the nigra’s and poor folks from voting.” In a blatant, organized and systematic way all over the country. With SOS’s using their power to ensure that black communities and poor neighborhoods did not have access to the right to vote and have their vote counted.

Then there was the “questionable” practices of Triad, ES&S and Die-bold voting machine technicians and of the machines themselves.

In one precinct in Toledo County, Ohio of the 800 people who voted, 3,500 voted for GW Bush. This is one that we actually caught. How many we never found because of the spinelessness (or complicity) of the Democrats, we will never know.

As an aside, I watched Glen Beck on Fox News today. Oh my dear God, these folks are unbelievable.

Dumb as dirt and with less common sense than what God granted to turnips.

]]> By: paulie http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/09/working-families-party-accused-of-ballot-fraud-in-troy-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-110007 paulie Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:35:02 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10382#comment-110007 Here's the email alluded to further up Dan Levitan to contact.ipr show details 9:02 PM (23 hours ago) Your headline is a little misleading - It isn't accurate to say that the WFP has been accused of voter fraud. There has been fraud in the WFP election, but it seems the Democrats are responsible: Sunday's updated Times Union story: http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=846612&category=YTTROY More coverage: http://wnyt.com/article/stories/S1163335.shtml?cat=300 http://capitalnews9.com/capital-region-news-12-content/top_stories/483673/allegations-of-voter-fraud-surface-in-troy --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Independent Political Report" group. To post to this group, send email to independent-political-report@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to independent-political-report+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/independent-political-report?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- Here’s the email alluded to further up

Dan Levitan to contact.ipr
show details 9:02 PM (23 hours ago)
Your headline is a little misleading – It isn’t accurate to say that the WFP has been accused of voter fraud. There has been fraud in the WFP election, but it seems the Democrats are responsible:

Sunday’s updated Times Union story: http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=846612&category=YTTROY

More coverage:

http://wnyt.com/article/stories/S1163335.shtml?cat=300

http://capitalnews9.com/capital-region-news-12-content/top_stories/483673/allegations-of-voter-fraud-surface-in-troy

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]]> By: Citizens For A Better Veterans Home http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/09/working-families-party-accused-of-ballot-fraud-in-troy-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-109980 Citizens For A Better Veterans Home Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:06:25 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10382#comment-109980 When the Deform Party of California lost it's ballot access earlier this century [thanks: Patrick Buchanan and the agents provocateur of the high profile national convention in Long Beach (California) in the simmer, summer of 2000] California GOP demigod McCormick immorally [and falsely] sent official looking notices to thousands of RfPCa registrants stating FALSELY that they were no longer members of an official political party and would be welcomed [Don Lake's words] in the cold embrace of the fascist thugs of the GOP! When the Deform Party of California lost it’s ballot access earlier this century [thanks: Patrick Buchanan and the agents provocateur of the high profile national convention in Long Beach (California) in the simmer, summer of 2000] California GOP demigod McCormick immorally [and falsely] sent official looking notices to thousands of RfPCa registrants stating FALSELY that they were no longer members of an official political party and would be welcomed [Don Lake's words] in the cold embrace of the fascist thugs of the GOP!

]]> By: libertariangirl http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/09/working-families-party-accused-of-ballot-fraud-in-troy-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-109973 libertariangirl Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:48:38 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10382#comment-109973 they all play dirty , im just sayin , I worked for Rock the Vote and saw them in action . Ive never worked for a voter drive run by republicans. so thats my experience they all play dirty , im just sayin , I worked for Rock the Vote and saw them in action . Ive never worked for a voter drive run by republicans. so thats my experience

]]> By: paulie http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/09/working-families-party-accused-of-ballot-fraud-in-troy-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-109953 paulie Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:00:59 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10382#comment-109953 or this......... http://www.truecrimereport.com/2008/10/mark_jacoby_head_of_ypm_charge.php tip of iceberg or this………

http://www.truecrimereport.com/2008/10/mark_jacoby_head_of_ypm_charge.php

tip of iceberg

]]> By: paulie http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/09/working-families-party-accused-of-ballot-fraud-in-troy-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-109949 paulie Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:56:05 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10382#comment-109949 Feh. Repugs do all the same crap. See for example http://articles.latimes.com/2008/oct/20/local/me-fraud20 scroll down past the ads. Feh. Repugs do all the same crap. See for example

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/oct/20/local/me-fraud20

scroll down past the ads.

]]> By: The Last Conservative http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/09/working-families-party-accused-of-ballot-fraud-in-troy-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-109893 The Last Conservative Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:09:40 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10382#comment-109893 LG, the reason why you feel that Democrats play dirty is that you are in Nevada. In Nevada, the only people who are Democrats are degenerate deviant sinners, who patronize the den of Satan, the Las Vegas cacinos. Republicans are god-fearing people of the Lord and would never be corrupt. LG, the reason why you feel that Democrats play dirty is that you are in Nevada. In Nevada, the only people who are Democrats are degenerate deviant sinners, who patronize the den of Satan, the Las Vegas cacinos. Republicans are god-fearing people of the Lord and would never be corrupt.

]]> By: David Aitken http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/09/working-families-party-accused-of-ballot-fraud-in-troy-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-109868 David Aitken Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:52:55 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10382#comment-109868 Here's the wikipedia link for WFP. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_Families_Party You'll note the references to ACORN and, of course, the SEIU. Here’s the wikipedia link for WFP. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_Families_Party
You’ll note the references to ACORN and, of course, the SEIU.

]]> By: Ross Levin http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/09/working-families-party-accused-of-ballot-fraud-in-troy-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-109862 Ross Levin Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:44:13 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10382#comment-109862 We actually got an email about this story saying that the WFP was not involved in the fraud, just that it had occurred in their primary. FYI. We actually got an email about this story saying that the WFP was not involved in the fraud, just that it had occurred in their primary. FYI.

]]> By: Third Party Revolution http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/09/working-families-party-accused-of-ballot-fraud-in-troy-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-109861 Third Party Revolution Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:44:12 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10382#comment-109861 Mostly the WFP endorses the Democratic Party, but on some occasions they endorse the Republican Party as well. Take Dede Scozzafava for example. Mostly the WFP endorses the Democratic Party, but on some occasions they endorse the Republican Party as well. Take Dede Scozzafava for example.

]]> By: citizen1 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/09/working-families-party-accused-of-ballot-fraud-in-troy-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-109854 citizen1 Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:24:01 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10382#comment-109854 I do not think that it is only left leaning parties. I think that is establishment candidates which often the WFP is because they just endorse Dems for the the most part. I do not think that it is only left leaning parties. I think that is establishment candidates which often the WFP is because they just endorse Dems for the the most part.

]]> By: Eric Sundwall http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/09/working-families-party-accused-of-ballot-fraud-in-troy-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-109600 Eric Sundwall Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:44:59 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10382#comment-109600 South Troy against the world ! They are on the right side of the river . . . local jokes. South Troy against the world ! They are on the right side of the river . . . local jokes.

]]> By: Jeremy Young http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/09/working-families-party-accused-of-ballot-fraud-in-troy-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-109570 Jeremy Young Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:13:44 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10382#comment-109570 <i>Dems play the dirtiest</i> That's definitely true in the South, even in the border South. But I'm not certain it's true elsewhere. In Southern Maryland I saw some pretty damn dirty machine-style politics, but in Arizona the Dems always seemed to be above-board. Dems play the dirtiest

That’s definitely true in the South, even in the border South. But I’m not certain it’s true elsewhere. In Southern Maryland I saw some pretty damn dirty machine-style politics, but in Arizona the Dems always seemed to be above-board.

]]> By: Ross Levin http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/09/working-families-party-accused-of-ballot-fraud-in-troy-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-109564 Ross Levin Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:03:34 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10382#comment-109564 Dave, check the google group (if you're not a member of it yet, let me know and I'll forward the email to you). Dave, check the google group (if you’re not a member of it yet, let me know and I’ll forward the email to you).

]]> By: libertariangirl http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/09/working-families-party-accused-of-ballot-fraud-in-troy-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-109549 libertariangirl Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:31:15 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=10382#comment-109549 VA , I like your quote . Im gonna use it :) VA , I like your quote . Im gonna use it :)

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