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	<title>Comments on: Steve Kubby, Mary Ruwart, Ray Carr and Lee Wrights resign from Cannabis Science corporation Board of Directors</title>
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		<title>By: Court Judgment: Kubby regains control of Cannex Therapeutics &#124; Independent Political Report</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/steve-kubby-mary-ruwart-ray-carr-and-lee-wrights-resign-from-cannabis-science-corporation-board-of-directors/comment-page-2/#comment-210672</link>
		<dc:creator>Court Judgment: Kubby regains control of Cannex Therapeutics &#124; Independent Political Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of IPR will recall (see previous stories here, here and here) that Kubby&#8217;s departure as CEO Cannabis Science, Inc. took place amid various [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of IPR will recall (see previous stories here, here and here) that Kubby&#8217;s departure as CEO Cannabis Science, Inc. took place amid various [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Knapp on Cannabis Science, Inc. controversy: &#8216;Depends on what the meaning of &#8220;owns&#8221; is&#8217; &#124; Independent Political Report</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/steve-kubby-mary-ruwart-ray-carr-and-lee-wrights-resign-from-cannabis-science-corporation-board-of-directors/comment-page-2/#comment-95189</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Knapp on Cannabis Science, Inc. controversy: &#8216;Depends on what the meaning of &#8220;owns&#8221; is&#8217; &#124; Independent Political Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Steve Kubby, Mary Ruwart, Ray Carr and Lee Wrights resign from Cannabis Science corporation Board of... [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Interview with Steve Kubby &#124; Independent Political Report</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/steve-kubby-mary-ruwart-ray-carr-and-lee-wrights-resign-from-cannabis-science-corporation-board-of-directors/comment-page-1/#comment-82843</link>
		<dc:creator>Interview with Steve Kubby &#124; Independent Political Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] candidate Mary Ruwart, her husband Ray Carr, and LNC member Lee Wrights. More recently, there was a falling out with some of the financial officers of the company. Their side of the story is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] candidate Mary Ruwart, her husband Ray Carr, and LNC member Lee Wrights. More recently, there was a falling out with some of the financial officers of the company. Their side of the story is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Capozzi</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/steve-kubby-mary-ruwart-ray-carr-and-lee-wrights-resign-from-cannabis-science-corporation-board-of-directors/comment-page-1/#comment-79764</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Capozzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While my practice is to keep an open mind about all things, when I see merger with Vancouver stock market company, I tend to move on.  That sort of enterprise is linked with all sorts of shadowy reputation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While my practice is to keep an open mind about all things, when I see merger with Vancouver stock market company, I tend to move on.  That sort of enterprise is linked with all sorts of shadowy reputation.</p>
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		<title>By: Cannabis Science Accuses Kubby and Ruwart in SEC Filing &#124; Independent Political Report</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/steve-kubby-mary-ruwart-ray-carr-and-lee-wrights-resign-from-cannabis-science-corporation-board-of-directors/comment-page-1/#comment-79740</link>
		<dc:creator>Cannabis Science Accuses Kubby and Ruwart in SEC Filing &#124; Independent Political Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] At Large member of the Libertarian National Committee.  Kubby&#8217;s account of these events was reported earlier on IPR.  A response by Cannabis Science CFO (and Kubby&#8217;s former campaign manager) Richard Cowan is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] At Large member of the Libertarian National Committee.  Kubby&#8217;s account of these events was reported earlier on IPR.  A response by Cannabis Science CFO (and Kubby&#8217;s former campaign manager) Richard Cowan is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Orvetti</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/steve-kubby-mary-ruwart-ray-carr-and-lee-wrights-resign-from-cannabis-science-corporation-board-of-directors/comment-page-1/#comment-79213</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Orvetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not an investor in the company -- though I considered it -- so my opinion may not mean much.  But I&#039;ve read these lengthy statements from both sides, and it seems like a lot is not being made known.  I&#039;m curious what happened between Kubby&#039;s acceptance of Cowan&#039;s resignation and that e-mail a week later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not an investor in the company &#8212; though I considered it &#8212; so my opinion may not mean much.  But I&#8217;ve read these lengthy statements from both sides, and it seems like a lot is not being made known.  I&#8217;m curious what happened between Kubby&#8217;s acceptance of Cowan&#8217;s resignation and that e-mail a week later.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Seebeck</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/steve-kubby-mary-ruwart-ray-carr-and-lee-wrights-resign-from-cannabis-science-corporation-board-of-directors/comment-page-1/#comment-79097</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Seebeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Notice that he (Cowan)never mentions anything relating to Kubby&#039;s allegations, the audit by Ray Carr, or anything in that vein, and attempts to deflect the situation back on Kubby instead of addressing the allegations...

Not a good showing of a response, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notice that he (Cowan)never mentions anything relating to Kubby&#8217;s allegations, the audit by Ray Carr, or anything in that vein, and attempts to deflect the situation back on Kubby instead of addressing the allegations&#8230;</p>
<p>Not a good showing of a response, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Hogarth</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/steve-kubby-mary-ruwart-ray-carr-and-lee-wrights-resign-from-cannabis-science-corporation-board-of-directors/comment-page-1/#comment-79026</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Hogarth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cowan has responded to Kubby&#039;s allegations here:

http://marijuananews.com/blog/general-news/someone-is-lying-kubby-fired-by-cannabis-science-accuses-melamede-and-cowan-of-theft-etc-are-you-a-thief-if-you-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-me/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cowan has responded to Kubby&#8217;s allegations here:</p>
<p><a href="http://marijuananews.com/blog/general-news/someone-is-lying-kubby-fired-by-cannabis-science-accuses-melamede-and-cowan-of-theft-etc-are-you-a-thief-if-you-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-me/" rel="nofollow">http://marijuananews.com/blog/general-news/someone-is-lying-kubby-fired-by-cannabis-science-accuses-melamede-and-cowan-of-theft-etc-are-you-a-thief-if-you-don%E2%80%99t-agree-with-me/</a></p>
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		<title>By: paulie</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/steve-kubby-mary-ruwart-ray-carr-and-lee-wrights-resign-from-cannabis-science-corporation-board-of-directors/comment-page-1/#comment-78951</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Your case of claim to part of sale price I meant not in Court but negotiation/arbitration between buyer (Miche) &amp; seller (owner?) ENM.&lt;/i&gt;

Since neither of them is my friend any longer, apparently they felt justified in making some deal that kept my past writing in Michelle&#039;s property (my name no longer appears, but the articles were still there last time I checked), whatever money that may have changed hands with ENM (assuming any did), and my self banned from LFV. 

As I said - more their loss than mine. 

Not that I&#039;m happy with it, but it&#039;s a dead horse. I&#039;ve moved on. Why do you want to dig it up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Your case of claim to part of sale price I meant not in Court but negotiation/arbitration between buyer (Miche) &#038; seller (owner?) ENM.</i></p>
<p>Since neither of them is my friend any longer, apparently they felt justified in making some deal that kept my past writing in Michelle&#8217;s property (my name no longer appears, but the articles were still there last time I checked), whatever money that may have changed hands with ENM (assuming any did), and my self banned from LFV. </p>
<p>As I said &#8211; more their loss than mine. </p>
<p>Not that I&#8217;m happy with it, but it&#8217;s a dead horse. I&#8217;ve moved on. Why do you want to dig it up?</p>
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		<title>By: paulie</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/steve-kubby-mary-ruwart-ray-carr-and-lee-wrights-resign-from-cannabis-science-corporation-board-of-directors/comment-page-1/#comment-78949</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a long period of seemingly friendly and productive collaboration with her. She turned out to be a backstabber. I&#039;m not trying to change your mind, as I don&#039;t especially care what you think, Milnes. If you don&#039;t believe me, look it up. If you don&#039;t want to look it up, you can&#039;t say I didn&#039;t warn you.

With any luck, I hope her health gets better and she runs on your ticket in 2012. You deserve each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a long period of seemingly friendly and productive collaboration with her. She turned out to be a backstabber. I&#8217;m not trying to change your mind, as I don&#8217;t especially care what you think, Milnes. If you don&#8217;t believe me, look it up. If you don&#8217;t want to look it up, you can&#8217;t say I didn&#8217;t warn you.</p>
<p>With any luck, I hope her health gets better and she runs on your ticket in 2012. You deserve each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Milnes</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/steve-kubby-mary-ruwart-ray-carr-and-lee-wrights-resign-from-cannabis-science-corporation-board-of-directors/comment-page-1/#comment-78946</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Milnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your case of claim to part of sale price I meant not in Court but negotiation/arbitration between buyer (Miche) &amp; seller (owner?) ENM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your case of claim to part of sale price I meant not in Court but negotiation/arbitration between buyer (Miche) &amp; seller (owner?) ENM.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Milnes</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/steve-kubby-mary-ruwart-ray-carr-and-lee-wrights-resign-from-cannabis-science-corporation-board-of-directors/comment-page-1/#comment-78945</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Milnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I must say my contact with ENM certainly is much different than yours &amp; I came to the opposite conclusion than you as to whether she is a &quot;...real, good person.&quot; I&#039;m open to changing that upon further evidence. But I do not feel the burden is on me to seek out that evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I must say my contact with ENM certainly is much different than yours &amp; I came to the opposite conclusion than you as to whether she is a &#8220;&#8230;real, good person.&#8221; I&#8217;m open to changing that upon further evidence. But I do not feel the burden is on me to seek out that evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/steve-kubby-mary-ruwart-ray-carr-and-lee-wrights-resign-from-cannabis-science-corporation-board-of-directors/comment-page-1/#comment-78942</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Can you spell l-a-p-t-o-p?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Can you spell I--d-o-n-&#039;-t--w-a-n-t--o-n-e?

There&#039;s that word TIME in there. It&#039;s a key factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Can you spell l-a-p-t-o-p?</p></blockquote>
<p>Can you spell I&#8211;d-o-n-&#8217;-t&#8211;w-a-n-t&#8211;o-n-e?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s that word TIME in there. It&#8217;s a key factor.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Milnes</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/steve-kubby-mary-ruwart-ray-carr-and-lee-wrights-resign-from-cannabis-science-corporation-board-of-directors/comment-page-1/#comment-78941</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Milnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>paulie, just about all if not all potential f. lib vps are married. I&#039;m not looking for a date or trouble, just a vp. Maybe if I was not single this would be less of a problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paulie, just about all if not all potential f. lib vps are married. I&#8217;m not looking for a date or trouble, just a vp. Maybe if I was not single this would be less of a problem?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Milnes</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/steve-kubby-mary-ruwart-ray-carr-and-lee-wrights-resign-from-cannabis-science-corporation-board-of-directors/comment-page-1/#comment-78937</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Milnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...any admin can demote any other admin.&quot; Wow. Ample room for conflict here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;any admin can demote any other admin.&#8221; Wow. Ample room for conflict here.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Milnes</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/steve-kubby-mary-ruwart-ray-carr-and-lee-wrights-resign-from-cannabis-science-corporation-board-of-directors/comment-page-1/#comment-78936</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Milnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...I was on the road with little internet time/access.&quot; Ummmmm. Can you spell l-a-p-t-o-p?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;I was on the road with little internet time/access.&#8221; Ummmmm. Can you spell l-a-p-t-o-p?</p>
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		<title>By: paulie</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/steve-kubby-mary-ruwart-ray-carr-and-lee-wrights-resign-from-cannabis-science-corporation-board-of-directors/comment-page-1/#comment-78935</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;IIRC, Miche stated in so many words she thinks I am cute.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Maybe she will leave her husband for you and be your VP candidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>IIRC, Miche stated in so many words she thinks I am cute.</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe she will leave her husband for you and be your VP candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/steve-kubby-mary-ruwart-ray-carr-and-lee-wrights-resign-from-cannabis-science-corporation-board-of-directors/comment-page-1/#comment-78934</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So if Trent goes to sell IPR will you feel you have a similar claim to it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No. I was never an admin at IPR. I did not invite Trent to blog here, he was here before me. I did not promote him to admin. 

Not analogous.

However, last time IPR was sold, I sold my share on the condition/understanding that whoever bought it would not substantially alter what I have written here in the past. I certainly hope that if Trent&#039;s boss sells it that this condition would attach to any subsequent sale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So if Trent goes to sell IPR will you feel you have a similar claim to it?</p></blockquote>
<p>No. I was never an admin at IPR. I did not invite Trent to blog here, he was here before me. I did not promote him to admin. </p>
<p>Not analogous.</p>
<p>However, last time IPR was sold, I sold my share on the condition/understanding that whoever bought it would not substantially alter what I have written here in the past. I certainly hope that if Trent&#8217;s boss sells it that this condition would attach to any subsequent sale.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Milnes</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/steve-kubby-mary-ruwart-ray-carr-and-lee-wrights-resign-from-cannabis-science-corporation-board-of-directors/comment-page-1/#comment-78933</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Milnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IIRC, Miche stated in so many words she thinks I am cute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IIRC, Miche stated in so many words she thinks I am cute.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/steve-kubby-mary-ruwart-ray-carr-and-lee-wrights-resign-from-cannabis-science-corporation-board-of-directors/comment-page-1/#comment-78932</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Info flow specialist pc/pc, at least point to a few threads that state YOUR grievances against ENM. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why should I do your homework? If you are so interested, dig them up yourself. I am fairly sure some of them are still on the front page of Next Free Voice. Do a search.



&lt;blockquote&gt;Did you communicate this to her?&lt;/blockquote&gt;


I&#039;m not sure what &quot;this&quot; is, but I communicated with her until she stopped replying. Incidentally, I found HER to be quite abusive right before that happened. I asked her when and where she thought I had been abusive to her, and told her that it had never been my intention to so be and that, if I had inadvertantly come off that way, I apologized. She blustered that I was intentionally and repeatedly abusive and pointed to an email exchange. I reviewed it, and in no way was I abusive to her. 

She also claimed I was &quot;disparaging her and LFV&quot; and that she received some email I allegedly sent out. The only email I sent out during the time in question was sent to several writers who she either kicked off LFV right before or after me or left on their own as she went on a power trip right around that time. It was a very short note that invited them to blog on my blog, since then renamed Next Free Voice. It did not disparage anyone. In her last reply to me she claimed I had also sent (this?) note to various &quot;groups,&quot; which I did not do; however, one of the people I sent it to, Brian Miller, copied his reply to the Outright Caucus leadership list and George Phillies. Finally, she claimed I lied about why she demoted me at LFV, yet my note did not say anything about why. 




&lt;blockquote&gt;Miche bought it? Why didn’t she negotiate/arbitrate this transaction better?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have no idea what you mean by &quot;better&quot; here.



&lt;blockquote&gt;&amp; where did she(ENM) get the authority to demote, remove &amp; ban you?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In my opinion, she had no such authority. As a practical matter any admin can demote any other admin. I either did not realize that she could, or never thought she would, do that to me when I (A) invited her to write at LFV and (b) promoted her to admin alongside me and then let her have the chief title because I was on the road with little internet time/access.

She did, nevertheless, without discussion, first demote me and then very quickly removed and banned me from commenting. Morally,e  I think if she had a problem with me she could not resolve, she should have removed herself instead, but what&#039;s done is done and no use crying over spilt milk.



&lt;blockquote&gt;It sounds like you have a claim based on contribution of time &amp; labor to part of the sale price. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Morally speaking yes, but as a practical matter it&#039;s not worth the aggravation of pressing such a claim, nor is the case ironclad. 

In any case, the bulk of the conversation and conversationists apparently followed me over here, and LFV appears rather dormant, so what did Michelle really acquire and ...what would I be pressing to gain? Nothing much it appears.

Thus, I no longer care very much, except to dispute any assertion that ENM is a good person of any sort. And really why should I have to do all this elaboration? It&#039;s all been said before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Info flow specialist pc/pc, at least point to a few threads that state YOUR grievances against ENM. </p></blockquote>
<p>Why should I do your homework? If you are so interested, dig them up yourself. I am fairly sure some of them are still on the front page of Next Free Voice. Do a search.</p>
<blockquote><p>Did you communicate this to her?</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what &#8220;this&#8221; is, but I communicated with her until she stopped replying. Incidentally, I found HER to be quite abusive right before that happened. I asked her when and where she thought I had been abusive to her, and told her that it had never been my intention to so be and that, if I had inadvertantly come off that way, I apologized. She blustered that I was intentionally and repeatedly abusive and pointed to an email exchange. I reviewed it, and in no way was I abusive to her. </p>
<p>She also claimed I was &#8220;disparaging her and LFV&#8221; and that she received some email I allegedly sent out. The only email I sent out during the time in question was sent to several writers who she either kicked off LFV right before or after me or left on their own as she went on a power trip right around that time. It was a very short note that invited them to blog on my blog, since then renamed Next Free Voice. It did not disparage anyone. In her last reply to me she claimed I had also sent (this?) note to various &#8220;groups,&#8221; which I did not do; however, one of the people I sent it to, Brian Miller, copied his reply to the Outright Caucus leadership list and George Phillies. Finally, she claimed I lied about why she demoted me at LFV, yet my note did not say anything about why. </p>
<blockquote><p>Miche bought it? Why didn’t she negotiate/arbitrate this transaction better?</p></blockquote>
<p>I have no idea what you mean by &#8220;better&#8221; here.</p>
<blockquote><p>&amp; where did she(ENM) get the authority to demote, remove &amp; ban you?</p></blockquote>
<p>In my opinion, she had no such authority. As a practical matter any admin can demote any other admin. I either did not realize that she could, or never thought she would, do that to me when I (A) invited her to write at LFV and (b) promoted her to admin alongside me and then let her have the chief title because I was on the road with little internet time/access.</p>
<p>She did, nevertheless, without discussion, first demote me and then very quickly removed and banned me from commenting. Morally,e  I think if she had a problem with me she could not resolve, she should have removed herself instead, but what&#8217;s done is done and no use crying over spilt milk.</p>
<blockquote><p>It sounds like you have a claim based on contribution of time &amp; labor to part of the sale price. </p></blockquote>
<p>Morally speaking yes, but as a practical matter it&#8217;s not worth the aggravation of pressing such a claim, nor is the case ironclad. </p>
<p>In any case, the bulk of the conversation and conversationists apparently followed me over here, and LFV appears rather dormant, so what did Michelle really acquire and &#8230;what would I be pressing to gain? Nothing much it appears.</p>
<p>Thus, I no longer care very much, except to dispute any assertion that ENM is a good person of any sort. And really why should I have to do all this elaboration? It&#8217;s all been said before.</p>
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