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	<title>Comments on: On The Wilder Side: Green Party National Meeting wrap-up</title>
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		<title>By: Dave Schwab</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/on-the-wilder-side-green-party-national-meeting-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-85166</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Schwab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I consider it a great thing that the meeting was held at an affordable venue with a rich history, rather than a Hilton hotel.

Also a great idea to webcast the events and conduct business online. Anyone who cares about including lower-income people in the national meeting should be encourage by these developments. Of course, there&#039;s still a long way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider it a great thing that the meeting was held at an affordable venue with a rich history, rather than a Hilton hotel.</p>
<p>Also a great idea to webcast the events and conduct business online. Anyone who cares about including lower-income people in the national meeting should be encourage by these developments. Of course, there&#8217;s still a long way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: VAGreen</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/on-the-wilder-side-green-party-national-meeting-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-84201</link>
		<dc:creator>VAGreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The meeting at Durham was very productive.  We had workshops on reviving our network of chapters on college campuses, state party fundraising, statewide petition drives, and candidate recruitment.  

We started putting together our plan for the 2012 election.  We also started work on some issue campaigns.  Jesse Johnson showed us a great movie on mountaintop removal mining.

The Black Caucus was rejuvenated.  Even state parties with very difficult ballot access situations (such as North Carolina) were excited about running local candidates.  

How could I forget?  Thanks to the great work done by the North Carolina Greens and the Annual National Meeting Committee, we actually made money on this meeting.  On to a Greener 2010!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The meeting at Durham was very productive.  We had workshops on reviving our network of chapters on college campuses, state party fundraising, statewide petition drives, and candidate recruitment.  </p>
<p>We started putting together our plan for the 2012 election.  We also started work on some issue campaigns.  Jesse Johnson showed us a great movie on mountaintop removal mining.</p>
<p>The Black Caucus was rejuvenated.  Even state parties with very difficult ballot access situations (such as North Carolina) were excited about running local candidates.  </p>
<p>How could I forget?  Thanks to the great work done by the North Carolina Greens and the Annual National Meeting Committee, we actually made money on this meeting.  On to a Greener 2010!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Saldana</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/on-the-wilder-side-green-party-national-meeting-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-84087</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Saldana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the Indy&#039;s write-up in this week&#039;s print edition. Thanks to Kim and others for commenting on the blog:

http://www.indyweek.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A398633</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the Indy&#8217;s write-up in this week&#8217;s print edition. Thanks to Kim and others for commenting on the blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.indyweek.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A398633" rel="nofollow">http://www.indyweek.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A398633</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Cavlan</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/on-the-wilder-side-green-party-national-meeting-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-83332</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Cavlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kimberley

Will do. However, I am leaving for vacation in Michigan, so it will have to happen at a later date and time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kimberley</p>
<p>Will do. However, I am leaving for vacation in Michigan, so it will have to happen at a later date and time.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberly Wilder</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/on-the-wilder-side-green-party-national-meeting-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-83268</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimberly Wilder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well...I do think Cynthia McKinney was sick. Roger S. said she was even coughing in the video feed. But...

Anyway, Michael, why don&#039;t you write out here just a couple of the lessons. It is helpful to think things through.

Peace,
Kimberly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;I do think Cynthia McKinney was sick. Roger S. said she was even coughing in the video feed. But&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, Michael, why don&#8217;t you write out here just a couple of the lessons. It is helpful to think things through.</p>
<p>Peace,<br />
Kimberly</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Cavlan</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/on-the-wilder-side-green-party-national-meeting-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-83253</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Cavlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am convinced that this thing was destroyed very deliberately. 

For those of us who are serious about creating a real, strong and viable alternative to the pro-war, corporate corrupted two party system there are some significant lessons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am convinced that this thing was destroyed very deliberately. </p>
<p>For those of us who are serious about creating a real, strong and viable alternative to the pro-war, corporate corrupted two party system there are some significant lessons.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Cavlan</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/on-the-wilder-side-green-party-national-meeting-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-83252</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Cavlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kimberley,

I think the saddest moment in this thing was when Cynthia McKinney did not show up. In fact she appeared by video phone, at home, almost in her pajamas. Did Rosa Clamente show up?

This whole thing was like a train wreck, horrifying to see but you were unable to keep your eyes off it. Of course, at the chat room that was set up, I was summilarily banned for pointing out just how bad it really was. No Good Ship Lolly Pop, Pollyanna happy talk from me.

My dear God, this was so sad. This thing held so much potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kimberley,</p>
<p>I think the saddest moment in this thing was when Cynthia McKinney did not show up. In fact she appeared by video phone, at home, almost in her pajamas. Did Rosa Clamente show up?</p>
<p>This whole thing was like a train wreck, horrifying to see but you were unable to keep your eyes off it. Of course, at the chat room that was set up, I was summilarily banned for pointing out just how bad it really was. No Good Ship Lolly Pop, Pollyanna happy talk from me.</p>
<p>My dear God, this was so sad. This thing held so much potential.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberly Wilder</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/on-the-wilder-side-green-party-national-meeting-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-83228</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimberly Wilder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Gregg Gerritt, official consultant on troublesome people. Your perspective is very interesting...I think I have heard it somewhere else...well...won&#039;t even go there.

Anyway...

To Michael Cavlan - I think you are correct that attendance was low. And, it could even be that quorum was not achieved. I think that the meeting leaders shuffled numbers wrong, and also that some states and delegates did not even realize that non-delegates could not carry proxies.

But, I do know that the proposal to elect the Steering Committee on-line was made before the meeting by the whole NC.

It could be that that the on-line idea was floated because people anticipated low turnout. 

I think that on-line voting for the SC is not that bad an idea.

I will be interested how it goes. I try not to care. (Since I am not an enrolled green anymore.) There is no one I am thrilled about having on the SC, or think will change the universe. (One SC candidate brings some tiny hope, another SC candidate is at least a sparkling local candidate.)

There are a few people who I think would just destroy any hope for fairness or productivity in GP-US, and possibly destroy GP-US entirely. But, I tell myself that perhaps that is the pre-destined path. And, better to get it over with now--before prep must begin for Presidential Race 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Gregg Gerritt, official consultant on troublesome people. Your perspective is very interesting&#8230;I think I have heard it somewhere else&#8230;well&#8230;won&#8217;t even go there.</p>
<p>Anyway&#8230;</p>
<p>To Michael Cavlan &#8211; I think you are correct that attendance was low. And, it could even be that quorum was not achieved. I think that the meeting leaders shuffled numbers wrong, and also that some states and delegates did not even realize that non-delegates could not carry proxies.</p>
<p>But, I do know that the proposal to elect the Steering Committee on-line was made before the meeting by the whole NC.</p>
<p>It could be that that the on-line idea was floated because people anticipated low turnout. </p>
<p>I think that on-line voting for the SC is not that bad an idea.</p>
<p>I will be interested how it goes. I try not to care. (Since I am not an enrolled green anymore.) There is no one I am thrilled about having on the SC, or think will change the universe. (One SC candidate brings some tiny hope, another SC candidate is at least a sparkling local candidate.)</p>
<p>There are a few people who I think would just destroy any hope for fairness or productivity in GP-US, and possibly destroy GP-US entirely. But, I tell myself that perhaps that is the pre-destined path. And, better to get it over with now&#8211;before prep must begin for Presidential Race 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: greg gerritt</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/on-the-wilder-side-green-party-national-meeting-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-83208</link>
		<dc:creator>greg gerritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most interesting comment to me was the idea that work could get done without a decision.  When the Green Party runs into trouble it is when it gets hyper about rules and forgets common sense and the idea of allowing people to do their work.  Over my years in the GP, I have found those who seek to control the actions of others are the most disruptive element of the party and the most responsible for work not getting done.  I am glad the rules nannies stayed home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most interesting comment to me was the idea that work could get done without a decision.  When the Green Party runs into trouble it is when it gets hyper about rules and forgets common sense and the idea of allowing people to do their work.  Over my years in the GP, I have found those who seek to control the actions of others are the most disruptive element of the party and the most responsible for work not getting done.  I am glad the rules nannies stayed home.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Alley</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/on-the-wilder-side-green-party-national-meeting-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-83075</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Alley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s stop pretending that it was a success. 
What a failure!
Incredibly low attendance by the membership and the media, we could go on and on.
But little was decided about the future of the party or where we go from here.
And we heard nothing from the 2008 candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s stop pretending that it was a success.<br />
What a failure!<br />
Incredibly low attendance by the membership and the media, we could go on and on.<br />
But little was decided about the future of the party or where we go from here.<br />
And we heard nothing from the 2008 candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Cavlan</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/on-the-wilder-side-green-party-national-meeting-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-83072</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Cavlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok

My understanding of why the National GP did not vote for the four Co-Chair positions is that there as about 90 odd people there, representing 26 States.

Which means that the National GP meeting did not meet quorum.

Can anyone here confirm that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok</p>
<p>My understanding of why the National GP did not vote for the four Co-Chair positions is that there as about 90 odd people there, representing 26 States.</p>
<p>Which means that the National GP meeting did not meet quorum.</p>
<p>Can anyone here confirm that?</p>
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		<title>By: VAGreen</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/on-the-wilder-side-green-party-national-meeting-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-83065</link>
		<dc:creator>VAGreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Steering Committee was not elected at the meeting because we recently adopted a proposal to elect the national party&#039;s officers in online elections.  This allows delegates who could not attend the meeting to vote, and frees up time at the meeting for other business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Steering Committee was not elected at the meeting because we recently adopted a proposal to elect the national party&#8217;s officers in online elections.  This allows delegates who could not attend the meeting to vote, and frees up time at the meeting for other business.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberly Wilder</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/on-the-wilder-side-green-party-national-meeting-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-83026</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimberly Wilder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Thank you to Paulie, I guess, for posting my article here. 

But, my story was somewhat cranky and opinionated....oh, well.

Glad to find out that some video was saved as recordings. The link is now also in the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Thank you to Paulie, I guess, for posting my article here. </p>
<p>But, my story was somewhat cranky and opinionated&#8230;.oh, well.</p>
<p>Glad to find out that some video was saved as recordings. The link is now also in the story.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberly Wilder</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/on-the-wilder-side-green-party-national-meeting-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-83025</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimberly Wilder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Gail for Rail and Independent Green Party of Virginia

I don&#039;t consider Gail for Rail an actual &quot;green.&quot; And, at the 2008 Green Party Presidential Convention, Gail Parker specifically suggested the Green Party endorse Bloomberg for President.

I think that the Independent Green Party of VA is trying to confuse people by using the name &quot;green&quot; in their title. In NY, they probably would not get away with that. Guess VA law is different.

I am not even an &quot;enrolled green&quot;. But, I do think people should not posture so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Gail for Rail and Independent Green Party of Virginia</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t consider Gail for Rail an actual &#8220;green.&#8221; And, at the 2008 Green Party Presidential Convention, Gail Parker specifically suggested the Green Party endorse Bloomberg for President.</p>
<p>I think that the Independent Green Party of VA is trying to confuse people by using the name &#8220;green&#8221; in their title. In NY, they probably would not get away with that. Guess VA law is different.</p>
<p>I am not even an &#8220;enrolled green&#8221;. But, I do think people should not posture so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Indiana</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/on-the-wilder-side-green-party-national-meeting-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-83007</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Indiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monique Berry -  The Independent Greens of Virginia are not an Independent State Party. On January 10, 2008 the Virginia Independent Green Party affiliated itself with the Independence Party of America.
http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/01/13/virginia-independent-green-party-affiliates-with-independence-party/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monique Berry &#8211;  The Independent Greens of Virginia are not an Independent State Party. On January 10, 2008 the Virginia Independent Green Party affiliated itself with the Independence Party of America.<br />
<a href="http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/01/13/virginia-independent-green-party-affiliates-with-independence-party/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/01/13/virginia-independent-green-party-affiliates-with-independence-party/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Donald R Lake</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/07/on-the-wilder-side-green-party-national-meeting-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-82994</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald R Lake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gail 4 Rail Revisited:  

Since 2007, no physical address!

Since 2007, telephone numbers, never answered, and [if you ask tough, awkward questions] never returned. 

Sniff, sniff, does not pass the smell test. 

Think Frank $500 MacKay, and fakey dakey Independence Party ..........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gail 4 Rail Revisited:  </p>
<p>Since 2007, no physical address!</p>
<p>Since 2007, telephone numbers, never answered, and [if you ask tough, awkward questions] never returned. </p>
<p>Sniff, sniff, does not pass the smell test. </p>
<p>Think Frank $500 MacKay, and fakey dakey Independence Party &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Col. Jim Leslie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Col. Jim Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why didn&#039;t they elect the Steering committee at the national meeting?

It was also reported at Green Party Watch - the only press that came to the press conferences were:

1) Green Party Watch
2) Indy Blog
3) Local paper.

Is that true?

That&#039;s a disappointing performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didn&#8217;t they elect the Steering committee at the national meeting?</p>
<p>It was also reported at Green Party Watch &#8211; the only press that came to the press conferences were:</p>
<p>1) Green Party Watch<br />
2) Indy Blog<br />
3) Local paper.</p>
<p>Is that true?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a disappointing performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Monique Berry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monique Berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kimberly Wilder,

doing outstanding work as normal.  Thank you.

Brent thank you also.

As a Independent Greens of Virginia candidate for House of Delegates in 2009, I want to thank all the Green Party members who warmly received our Gail for Rail Parker at the meeting in Durham.

The Indy Greens of Virginia are an Independent State Party.  We are not the affiliate of the Green Party of the United States.   

Our big tent approach in Virginia - including independents, constitution, and greens works well.

Gail for Rail had an enjoyable three days meeting all the delegates in Durham.

It is my understanding Gail for Rail Parker discussed with the delegates the possibility of her being a candidate for the 2012 Green Party nomination to focus on the need for nationwide high speed rail, cutting dependence on foreign oil. 

Thank you.

You can read more about the Indy Greens at www.VoteJoinRun.US

And see our full list of 27 endorsee/nominees for House of Delegates in Virginia in 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kimberly Wilder,</p>
<p>doing outstanding work as normal.  Thank you.</p>
<p>Brent thank you also.</p>
<p>As a Independent Greens of Virginia candidate for House of Delegates in 2009, I want to thank all the Green Party members who warmly received our Gail for Rail Parker at the meeting in Durham.</p>
<p>The Indy Greens of Virginia are an Independent State Party.  We are not the affiliate of the Green Party of the United States.   </p>
<p>Our big tent approach in Virginia &#8211; including independents, constitution, and greens works well.</p>
<p>Gail for Rail had an enjoyable three days meeting all the delegates in Durham.</p>
<p>It is my understanding Gail for Rail Parker discussed with the delegates the possibility of her being a candidate for the 2012 Green Party nomination to focus on the need for nationwide high speed rail, cutting dependence on foreign oil. </p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>You can read more about the Indy Greens at <a href="http://www.VoteJoinRun.US" rel="nofollow">http://www.VoteJoinRun.US</a></p>
<p>And see our full list of 27 endorsee/nominees for House of Delegates in Virginia in 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent McMillan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent McMillan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To view recordings from the live streamed events go to:

http://www.livestream.com/greenpartyus
Click &quot;On-Demand&quot; 

From there you can select from a menu of recordings.

Enjoy!</description>
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<p><a href="http://www.livestream.com/greenpartyus" rel="nofollow">http://www.livestream.com/greenpartyus</a><br />
Click &#8220;On-Demand&#8221; </p>
<p>From there you can select from a menu of recordings.</p>
<p>Enjoy!</p>
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