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		<title>By: ken</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/05/libertarian-party-growing-and-beating-trends/comment-page-1/#comment-321725</link>
		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 19:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol....leave Jim alone. Much like the republicrats, ignore him and he will go away :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol&#8230;.leave Jim alone. Much like the republicrats, ignore him and he will go away <img src='http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jj</title>
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		<dc:creator>jj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about some of the LP politicians you mention Jim Davidson but I LOVE the LP for what is supposed to stand for.  Fill me in on the good LP dirt you seem to know so we can &quot;Take out the trash&quot; if we agree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about some of the LP politicians you mention Jim Davidson but I LOVE the LP for what is supposed to stand for.  Fill me in on the good LP dirt you seem to know so we can &#8220;Take out the trash&#8221; if we agree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Seebeck</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/05/libertarian-party-growing-and-beating-trends/comment-page-1/#comment-63894</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Seebeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 18:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, I&#039;ll support Root for President right this instant, after I lose the nomination to him at the LP convention in 2012 wherever that may be.

Oh, wait, I&#039;m not running for that nomination...

EDIT: Sure, I&#039;ll support Root for President right this instant, after I complete my own campaign for President of Nothing at my own funeral wherever and whenever that may be.

Root needs to grow more Party spurs and smarts and learn to soft-sell better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, I&#8217;ll support Root for President right this instant, after I lose the nomination to him at the LP convention in 2012 wherever that may be.</p>
<p>Oh, wait, I&#8217;m not running for that nomination&#8230;</p>
<p>EDIT: Sure, I&#8217;ll support Root for President right this instant, after I complete my own campaign for President of Nothing at my own funeral wherever and whenever that may be.</p>
<p>Root needs to grow more Party spurs and smarts and learn to soft-sell better.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas M. Sipos</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/05/libertarian-party-growing-and-beating-trends/comment-page-1/#comment-63858</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas M. Sipos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 15:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;We really need to support WAYNE ALLYN ROOT.&lt;/i&gt;

Bruce Cohen, is that you?

&lt;i&gt;Some of you who want the firsthand limelight of being president ... we will have NOTHING AGAIN YET AGAIN BECAUSE OF EGOS TALKING.&lt;/i&gt;

Ironically, Mr. Root supporter, nobody craves the limelight more, nor has a bigger ego, that does Root.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We really need to support WAYNE ALLYN ROOT.</i></p>
<p>Bruce Cohen, is that you?</p>
<p><i>Some of you who want the firsthand limelight of being president &#8230; we will have NOTHING AGAIN YET AGAIN BECAUSE OF EGOS TALKING.</i></p>
<p>Ironically, Mr. Root supporter, nobody craves the limelight more, nor has a bigger ego, that does Root.</p>
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		<title>By: RUN FOR ALL OFFICEESSS</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUN FOR ALL OFFICEESSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 23:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOU GUYS WHO ARE LIBERTARIANS THAT WANT TO run for president. Let me suggest. You need to run for CONGRESS, SENATE. These are just as very important. And we do not have enough libertarians candidate to go around. Innercompetition for the same thing is not going to help. We need to be everywhere we can be. Some of you who want the firsthand limelight of being president when you haven’t even got the foot in the door for Congress, Senate, or even lesser then that need to be realistic. We really need to support WAYNE ALLYN ROOT. It doesn’t matter if we agree on everyone. He has got most of it right and the IMPORTANT THING is. WE NEED TO GET A LIBERTARIAN IN OFFICE PERIOD. Personally libertariansssss in a lot of officesss If we don’t band together, we will have NOTHING AGAIN YET AGAIN BECAUSE OF EGOS TALKING. We are stronger banding together. Things are very serious the way this country is going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOU GUYS WHO ARE LIBERTARIANS THAT WANT TO run for president. Let me suggest. You need to run for CONGRESS, SENATE. These are just as very important. And we do not have enough libertarians candidate to go around. Innercompetition for the same thing is not going to help. We need to be everywhere we can be. Some of you who want the firsthand limelight of being president when you haven’t even got the foot in the door for Congress, Senate, or even lesser then that need to be realistic. We really need to support WAYNE ALLYN ROOT. It doesn’t matter if we agree on everyone. He has got most of it right and the IMPORTANT THING is. WE NEED TO GET A LIBERTARIAN IN OFFICE PERIOD. Personally libertariansssss in a lot of officesss If we don’t band together, we will have NOTHING AGAIN YET AGAIN BECAUSE OF EGOS TALKING. We are stronger banding together. Things are very serious the way this country is going.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Davidson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Davidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 06:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@30 You seem determined to take my complaints against the evil men who run the national Libertarian Party headquarters and make them about you, or about other LP members.  My complaints, including calling them evil, are about the actions and words of Donny Ferguson, Robert Kraus, Bill Redpath, Aaron Starr, and Bob Sullentrup.

I&#039;m not attacking Angela Keaton when I say that what the LNC did to her was evil.  I am not attacking Lee Wrights when I say what the LP headquarters team tried to do to him was evil.  And I&#039;m not attacking you when I say that the LP takes absurd authoritarian positions.

Admitting defeat?  Look, youngster, I&#039;ve been unwilling to send money to the national LP for over eleven years.  It is stupid of you to continue to do so.  They are not using your money for liberty.

I have not admitted defeat, and it is disgusting of you to say so.  Rather, I have continued to work with liberty activists like Angela Keaton (who is coming to my thing in KC at the end of May - Boston Tea Party meatspace gathering) and Tom Knapp and many others.  I have continued to support LP state groups in many states, essentially every state where I&#039;ve lived for any length of time.  I&#039;ve supported LP candidates, including getting the Boston Tea Party to endorse about two dozen of them.

What I have not done is found any people like you taking any action to fix what is so desperately wrong with the national LP.  You are therefore complicit in the evil they work.  You give them your tacit consent.

Which is your most disgusting behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@30 You seem determined to take my complaints against the evil men who run the national Libertarian Party headquarters and make them about you, or about other LP members.  My complaints, including calling them evil, are about the actions and words of Donny Ferguson, Robert Kraus, Bill Redpath, Aaron Starr, and Bob Sullentrup.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not attacking Angela Keaton when I say that what the LNC did to her was evil.  I am not attacking Lee Wrights when I say what the LP headquarters team tried to do to him was evil.  And I&#8217;m not attacking you when I say that the LP takes absurd authoritarian positions.</p>
<p>Admitting defeat?  Look, youngster, I&#8217;ve been unwilling to send money to the national LP for over eleven years.  It is stupid of you to continue to do so.  They are not using your money for liberty.</p>
<p>I have not admitted defeat, and it is disgusting of you to say so.  Rather, I have continued to work with liberty activists like Angela Keaton (who is coming to my thing in KC at the end of May &#8211; Boston Tea Party meatspace gathering) and Tom Knapp and many others.  I have continued to support LP state groups in many states, essentially every state where I&#8217;ve lived for any length of time.  I&#8217;ve supported LP candidates, including getting the Boston Tea Party to endorse about two dozen of them.</p>
<p>What I have not done is found any people like you taking any action to fix what is so desperately wrong with the national LP.  You are therefore complicit in the evil they work.  You give them your tacit consent.</p>
<p>Which is your most disgusting behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: John Famularo</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/05/libertarian-party-growing-and-beating-trends/comment-page-1/#comment-63372</link>
		<dc:creator>John Famularo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 20:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Libertariangirl wrote,
&quot; ....  It does not represent the LP position on the issue in my mind.&quot;

That is the problem with the LP.  All the members &quot;Know&quot; the correct position on the issues but they just don&#039;t agree.  Whoever controls the LNC controls what the LP Party&#039;s position is on the issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Libertariangirl wrote,<br />
&#8221; &#8230;.  It does not represent the LP position on the issue in my mind.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is the problem with the LP.  All the members &#8220;Know&#8221; the correct position on the issues but they just don&#8217;t agree.  Whoever controls the LNC controls what the LP Party&#8217;s position is on the issues.</p>
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		<title>By: libertariangirl</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/05/libertarian-party-growing-and-beating-trends/comment-page-1/#comment-63344</link>
		<dc:creator>libertariangirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 18:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim when you say the LP promotes such things you have essentially admitted our defeat by framing the opinions of donny and a few  as indicative of the entire LP . 

the LP is all of us registered Libertarians . The press release is a poor choice by one person.It does not represent the LP position on the issue in my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim when you say the LP promotes such things you have essentially admitted our defeat by framing the opinions of donny and a few  as indicative of the entire LP . </p>
<p>the LP is all of us registered Libertarians . The press release is a poor choice by one person.It does not represent the LP position on the issue in my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Davidson</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/05/libertarian-party-growing-and-beating-trends/comment-page-1/#comment-63248</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Davidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 06:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@20 For example, the LP promotes the position that the government should spend more money on the border keeping out &quot;swine flu.&quot;  This recent press release was highly xenophobic and authoritarian.  The libertarian position on every issue is less government, not more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@20 For example, the LP promotes the position that the government should spend more money on the border keeping out &#8220;swine flu.&#8221;  This recent press release was highly xenophobic and authoritarian.  The libertarian position on every issue is less government, not more.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Seebeck</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/05/libertarian-party-growing-and-beating-trends/comment-page-1/#comment-63235</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Seebeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 05:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mik @27:

&quot;Anybody who wants to increase individual liberty and minimize the role of the state should be welcome in the Libertarian Party.&quot;

Agreed, with the caveat that they do not want to increase it in some areas but decrease it in others.  Plenty of those foolios in the statist parties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mik @27:</p>
<p>&#8220;Anybody who wants to increase individual liberty and minimize the role of the state should be welcome in the Libertarian Party.&#8221;</p>
<p>Agreed, with the caveat that they do not want to increase it in some areas but decrease it in others.  Plenty of those foolios in the statist parties.</p>
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		<title>By: Mik Robertson</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/05/libertarian-party-growing-and-beating-trends/comment-page-1/#comment-63196</link>
		<dc:creator>Mik Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 01:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody who wants to increase individual liberty and minimize the role of the state should be welcome in the Libertarian Party. Whether they meet someone&#039;s definition of &quot;libertarian&quot; should be irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody who wants to increase individual liberty and minimize the role of the state should be welcome in the Libertarian Party. Whether they meet someone&#8217;s definition of &#8220;libertarian&#8221; should be irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: John Famularo</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/05/libertarian-party-growing-and-beating-trends/comment-page-1/#comment-63139</link>
		<dc:creator>John Famularo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 19:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erik Geib  wrote,

&quot;As long as the people joining are actually libertarians&quot;

It depends on your definition of &quot;libertarian&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erik Geib  wrote,</p>
<p>&#8220;As long as the people joining are actually libertarians&#8221;</p>
<p>It depends on your definition of &#8220;libertarian&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Geib</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/05/libertarian-party-growing-and-beating-trends/comment-page-1/#comment-63113</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Geib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 16:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as the people joining are actually libertarians (and not paleo-cons), this is great news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as the people joining are actually libertarians (and not paleo-cons), this is great news.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/05/libertarian-party-growing-and-beating-trends/comment-page-1/#comment-62869</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 16:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In NJ we have seen a tremendous increase in the number of people registered to vote as Libertarian. A year and a half ago it was under 500, now we have over 1,100. The NJLP has not had an organized push to register as a Libertarian, so this jump in the number registered is interesting (and promising).

On the other hand, we have had large gains in the numbers of inquiries, but have only had a small increase in our number of dues paid members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In NJ we have seen a tremendous increase in the number of people registered to vote as Libertarian. A year and a half ago it was under 500, now we have over 1,100. The NJLP has not had an organized push to register as a Libertarian, so this jump in the number registered is interesting (and promising).</p>
<p>On the other hand, we have had large gains in the numbers of inquiries, but have only had a small increase in our number of dues paid members.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas L. Knapp</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/05/libertarian-party-growing-and-beating-trends/comment-page-1/#comment-62852</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas L. Knapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 14:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ADD,

Commment #15 is irrelevant to your case, since Mr. Davidson is not a &quot;[Libertarian] Party malcontent.&quot; By his own account, he abandoned the LP as a bad job a decade ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ADD,</p>
<p>Commment #15 is irrelevant to your case, since Mr. Davidson is not a &#8220;[Libertarian] Party malcontent.&#8221; By his own account, he abandoned the LP as a bad job a decade ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Denver Delegate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Denver Delegate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 14:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rest my case with comment number 15.</description>
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		<title>By: libertariangirl</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/05/libertarian-party-growing-and-beating-trends/comment-page-1/#comment-62776</link>
		<dc:creator>libertariangirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 05:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats Jim davidson using his ultra-inflammatory rhetoric , like always . Evil? 

you are so off base . I can honestly say  Libertarians are some of the best people ive ever met even the ones i disagree with . 

and if the so-called opponents are winning then its a failure of the other side to try hard enuf

congratulations to hardworking LP activists everywhere . god knows its a thankless job and the finger pointing , ridicule , senseless rhetoric and little payout with progress makes those who stick with it truly my heroes.in the face of unsurmoutable odds and opposition , we keep going and i say thankyou to all of you .

however i do believe you gotta be a bit of a masochist to be an LP activist .

oh well a masochist for liberty is the best kind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats Jim davidson using his ultra-inflammatory rhetoric , like always . Evil? </p>
<p>you are so off base . I can honestly say  Libertarians are some of the best people ive ever met even the ones i disagree with . </p>
<p>and if the so-called opponents are winning then its a failure of the other side to try hard enuf</p>
<p>congratulations to hardworking LP activists everywhere . god knows its a thankless job and the finger pointing , ridicule , senseless rhetoric and little payout with progress makes those who stick with it truly my heroes.in the face of unsurmoutable odds and opposition , we keep going and i say thankyou to all of you .</p>
<p>however i do believe you gotta be a bit of a masochist to be an LP activist .</p>
<p>oh well a masochist for liberty is the best kind.</p>
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		<title>By: tab</title>
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		<dc:creator>tab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 05:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

Please describe how the LP promotes authoritarianism. I know it&#039;s easier to throw random shit out there than back it up with evidence, but I&#039;d like to see how you back up your claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>Please describe how the LP promotes authoritarianism. I know it&#8217;s easier to throw random shit out there than back it up with evidence, but I&#8217;d like to see how you back up your claim.</p>
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		<title>By: mdh</title>
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		<dc:creator>mdh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 01:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@18 - When have I ever sat around griping about the direction of the Dems/GOP?  I&#039;ve been known to applaud them for doing the right thing at times (WV ballot access reform legislation, for example) but I hardly sit around complaining about the direction they&#039;re going in.  It&#039;s silly to make such a comparison.  
To be quite blunt, I&#039;m not a part of either of those parties.  I have no emotional or otherwise investment in either of them.  I have no desire to see them be the best that they can be, at least not to the level that I&#039;m willing to put in time and effort on their behalf.  I do that for the LP, as is evidenced by my being a state chair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@18 &#8211; When have I ever sat around griping about the direction of the Dems/GOP?  I&#8217;ve been known to applaud them for doing the right thing at times (WV ballot access reform legislation, for example) but I hardly sit around complaining about the direction they&#8217;re going in.  It&#8217;s silly to make such a comparison.<br />
To be quite blunt, I&#8217;m not a part of either of those parties.  I have no emotional or otherwise investment in either of them.  I have no desire to see them be the best that they can be, at least not to the level that I&#8217;m willing to put in time and effort on their behalf.  I do that for the LP, as is evidenced by my being a state chair.</p>
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		<title>By: Eternaverse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eternaverse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 00:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@17- The same could go for you and the Dems/ GOP. The same logic applies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@17- The same could go for you and the Dems/ GOP. The same logic applies.</p>
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