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	<title>Comments on: New Jersey Libertarians Run Ken Kaplan for Governor</title>
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		<title>By: Third Party Revolution</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/new-jersey-libertarians-run-ken-kaplan-for-governor/comment-page-2/#comment-77111</link>
		<dc:creator>Third Party Revolution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 11:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears that Mr. Kaplan now has a website: http://kaplanforgovernor.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that Mr. Kaplan now has a website: <a href="http://kaplanforgovernor.com/" rel="nofollow">http://kaplanforgovernor.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Third Party Revolution</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/new-jersey-libertarians-run-ken-kaplan-for-governor/comment-page-2/#comment-68263</link>
		<dc:creator>Third Party Revolution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 13:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So does Mr. Kaplan have a campaign website?</description>
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		<title>By: Ross Levin</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/new-jersey-libertarians-run-ken-kaplan-for-governor/comment-page-2/#comment-64369</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 18:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck, Howard.  Sounds like you&#039;re doing a good job.  If you have any news you ever want us to post about your efforts, just send them to contact.ipr@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck, Howard.  Sounds like you&#8217;re doing a good job.  If you have any news you ever want us to post about your efforts, just send them to <a href="mailto:contact.ipr@gmail.com">contact.ipr@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Third Party Revolution</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/new-jersey-libertarians-run-ken-kaplan-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-64358</link>
		<dc:creator>Third Party Revolution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 17:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We here at Third Party Revolution endorse Ken Kaplan in his campaign for Governor of New Jersey, along with many other third party and independent candidates seeking public offices nation-wide, ranging from local to federal levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We here at Third Party Revolution endorse Ken Kaplan in his campaign for Governor of New Jersey, along with many other third party and independent candidates seeking public offices nation-wide, ranging from local to federal levels.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Kupferman</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/new-jersey-libertarians-run-ken-kaplan-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-64357</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Kupferman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 17:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just came across this site this morning when I Googled Kaplan’s name.

I’m not as politically savvy as some of you are, but I am actively participating in Kaplan’s campaign here in Morris County. The problem is not that he probably won’t win; the problem is that there is no viable third party. I intend to create a viable third party in my town, Long Hill Township.

I have been working for several years to create transparent and responsive government here. I faced a school board that fought me e3very inch of the way. Last year we were able to get a candidate elected who supported my efforts. This year we got two more. If we take a long-term approach, we are going to get a lot more.

I got a call yesterday from a fellow in Roxbury who won a seat on his school board. He is supporting Kaplan and is willing to go out and get signatures with us. What the NJLP needs is visibility and credibility. I believe the “new wing” of this party is more sensitive to how voters react to ideologues and what to do to overcome resistance to change.

I am asking everyone here to help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just came across this site this morning when I Googled Kaplan’s name.</p>
<p>I’m not as politically savvy as some of you are, but I am actively participating in Kaplan’s campaign here in Morris County. The problem is not that he probably won’t win; the problem is that there is no viable third party. I intend to create a viable third party in my town, Long Hill Township.</p>
<p>I have been working for several years to create transparent and responsive government here. I faced a school board that fought me e3very inch of the way. Last year we were able to get a candidate elected who supported my efforts. This year we got two more. If we take a long-term approach, we are going to get a lot more.</p>
<p>I got a call yesterday from a fellow in Roxbury who won a seat on his school board. He is supporting Kaplan and is willing to go out and get signatures with us. What the NJLP needs is visibility and credibility. I believe the “new wing” of this party is more sensitive to how voters react to ideologues and what to do to overcome resistance to change.</p>
<p>I am asking everyone here to help.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Ferrizzi</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/new-jersey-libertarians-run-ken-kaplan-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-61017</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Ferrizzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 19:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Milnes,

     I believe you have good ideas, but do not think ytou would make a good candidate. I was at the convention last year and was unimpressed with your public speaking ability. Barring that, the NJLP has a serious interest in promoting candidates that do not have a personal background that could reflect unfavorably on the party. There are plenty of other ways to aid the advancement of liberty other than being a candidate. I think your energy would best be spent in another direction, possibly researching topics and formulating policy ideas. I have served as the Libertarian Party&#039;s Chairman in Camden County and have been holding  monthly meetings since 2005. I have never seen you at one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Milnes,</p>
<p>     I believe you have good ideas, but do not think ytou would make a good candidate. I was at the convention last year and was unimpressed with your public speaking ability. Barring that, the NJLP has a serious interest in promoting candidates that do not have a personal background that could reflect unfavorably on the party. There are plenty of other ways to aid the advancement of liberty other than being a candidate. I think your energy would best be spent in another direction, possibly researching topics and formulating policy ideas. I have served as the Libertarian Party&#8217;s Chairman in Camden County and have been holding  monthly meetings since 2005. I have never seen you at one.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Levin</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/new-jersey-libertarians-run-ken-kaplan-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-58940</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 01:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, I&#039;m sorry to hear about your situation, I really am.  Maybe electoral politics isn&#039;t the best way to make money and live your life right now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, I&#8217;m sorry to hear about your situation, I really am.  Maybe electoral politics isn&#8217;t the best way to make money and live your life right now?</p>
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		<title>By: Libertarian Joseph</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/new-jersey-libertarians-run-ken-kaplan-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-58935</link>
		<dc:creator>Libertarian Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 01:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#18

not really. Ken Kapan quote &quot;He would push for an enactment of a marriage equality law to allow same sex couples to marry.&quot; http://www.politickernj.com/seancolon/29298/nj-libertarian-party-selects-kenneth-r-kaplan-governor

um I&#039;d prefer that we eliminate the marriage license altogether.

&quot;“The current system prevents owners of single family homes from converting them to two family homes and the owners of two family homes from converting them to three families,” stated Kaplan. “This solution will solve the affordable housing crisis, not just for people moving into the new units, but also for many of whom might be senior citizens.”

why bother with this? this shouldn&#039;t be a policy.

&quot;He views vouchers as an immediate way to give parents more choice in where their children attend school.&quot;

tax payer funded voucher system? That&#039;s stupid. but yes, an improvement

He&#039;s not as libertarian as I, but that&#039;s ok, he&#039;s clearly still the best choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#18</p>
<p>not really. Ken Kapan quote &#8220;He would push for an enactment of a marriage equality law to allow same sex couples to marry.&#8221; <a href="http://www.politickernj.com/seancolon/29298/nj-libertarian-party-selects-kenneth-r-kaplan-governor" rel="nofollow">http://www.politickernj.com/seancolon/29298/nj-libertarian-party-selects-kenneth-r-kaplan-governor</a></p>
<p>um I&#8217;d prefer that we eliminate the marriage license altogether.</p>
<p>&#8220;“The current system prevents owners of single family homes from converting them to two family homes and the owners of two family homes from converting them to three families,” stated Kaplan. “This solution will solve the affordable housing crisis, not just for people moving into the new units, but also for many of whom might be senior citizens.”</p>
<p>why bother with this? this shouldn&#8217;t be a policy.</p>
<p>&#8220;He views vouchers as an immediate way to give parents more choice in where their children attend school.&#8221;</p>
<p>tax payer funded voucher system? That&#8217;s stupid. but yes, an improvement</p>
<p>He&#8217;s not as libertarian as I, but that&#8217;s ok, he&#8217;s clearly still the best choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Milnes</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/new-jersey-libertarians-run-ken-kaplan-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-58780</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Milnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CT, I can call you a loser because I can admit I am a loser. I don&#039;t want to be but that is the result of the situation in which whoever gets the most votes is the winner. Fortunately Ron Paul, my nemesis,  is also a loser which is some small consolation. Winner-Barack Obama. Selected by supercomputer study engineered by the Massachusetts Mischief and Mayhem Makers. Purpose: elect a liberal democrat after the close election of JFK followed by the setback of his assasination. Liberal democrat as seen as the most progressive (leftist) possible under the dem/rep duopoly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CT, I can call you a loser because I can admit I am a loser. I don&#8217;t want to be but that is the result of the situation in which whoever gets the most votes is the winner. Fortunately Ron Paul, my nemesis,  is also a loser which is some small consolation. Winner-Barack Obama. Selected by supercomputer study engineered by the Massachusetts Mischief and Mayhem Makers. Purpose: elect a liberal democrat after the close election of JFK followed by the setback of his assasination. Liberal democrat as seen as the most progressive (leftist) possible under the dem/rep duopoly.</p>
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		<title>By: Catholic Trotskyist</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/new-jersey-libertarians-run-ken-kaplan-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-58751</link>
		<dc:creator>Catholic Trotskyist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leymann, write in Catholic Trotskyist. I choose not to make my name known publicly as of yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leymann, write in Catholic Trotskyist. I choose not to make my name known publicly as of yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Catholic Trotskyist</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/new-jersey-libertarians-run-ken-kaplan-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-58750</link>
		<dc:creator>Catholic Trotskyist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Milnes, how can you call me a loser when we both have gotten about the same number of votes (aka 0?) I live in California, so I will consider helping you with your mining expedition if you apologize. And note that I did give you a position in the Catholic Trotskyist shadow cabinet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Milnes, how can you call me a loser when we both have gotten about the same number of votes (aka 0?) I live in California, so I will consider helping you with your mining expedition if you apologize. And note that I did give you a position in the Catholic Trotskyist shadow cabinet.</p>
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		<title>By: mdh</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/new-jersey-libertarians-run-ken-kaplan-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-58739</link>
		<dc:creator>mdh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberalism used to be libertarian, before the socialists... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberalism used to be libertarian, before the socialists&#8230; <img src='http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mik Robertson</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/new-jersey-libertarians-run-ken-kaplan-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-58737</link>
		<dc:creator>Mik Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose you could equate progressive with liberal, but it is misleading. From Wikipedia:

&quot;The term &quot;progressive&quot; is today often used in place of &quot;liberal&quot;. Although the two are related in some ways, they are separate and distinct political ideologies. According to John Halpin, senior advisor on the staff of the Center for American Progress, &quot;Progressivism is an orientation towards politics, It&#039;s not a long-standing ideology like liberalism, but an historically-grounded concept... that accepts the world as dynamic.&quot; Progressives see progressivism as an attitude towards the world of politics that is broader than conservatism vs. liberalism, and as an attempt to break free from what they consider to be a false and divisive dichotomy.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose you could equate progressive with liberal, but it is misleading. From Wikipedia:</p>
<p>&#8220;The term &#8220;progressive&#8221; is today often used in place of &#8220;liberal&#8221;. Although the two are related in some ways, they are separate and distinct political ideologies. According to John Halpin, senior advisor on the staff of the Center for American Progress, &#8220;Progressivism is an orientation towards politics, It&#8217;s not a long-standing ideology like liberalism, but an historically-grounded concept&#8230; that accepts the world as dynamic.&#8221; Progressives see progressivism as an attitude towards the world of politics that is broader than conservatism vs. liberalism, and as an attempt to break free from what they consider to be a false and divisive dichotomy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Milnes</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/new-jersey-libertarians-run-ken-kaplan-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-58734</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Milnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the progressive movement is about 2/3 leftist, 1/3 libertarian. Libs need to assert themselves, that&#039;s all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the progressive movement is about 2/3 leftist, 1/3 libertarian. Libs need to assert themselves, that&#8217;s all.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Milnes</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/new-jersey-libertarians-run-ken-kaplan-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-58733</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Milnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mdh, ok, I&#039;m open to suggestions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mdh, ok, I&#8217;m open to suggestions.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Milnes</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/new-jersey-libertarians-run-ken-kaplan-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-58732</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Milnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TR was NOT a socialist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TR was NOT a socialist.</p>
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		<title>By: mdh</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/new-jersey-libertarians-run-ken-kaplan-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-58731</link>
		<dc:creator>mdh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mik, the modern definition of progressive as the majority of people see it is someone who advocates things like socialized healthcare, a welfare state (particularly &quot;new deal&quot; type programs), heavy government regulation of just about everything, and generally sees government as being the solution to all of society&#039;s ills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mik, the modern definition of progressive as the majority of people see it is someone who advocates things like socialized healthcare, a welfare state (particularly &#8220;new deal&#8221; type programs), heavy government regulation of just about everything, and generally sees government as being the solution to all of society&#8217;s ills.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Milnes</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/new-jersey-libertarians-run-ken-kaplan-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-58730</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Milnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unlike RP/RP, who is trying to &quot;reform&quot; the gop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike RP/RP, who is trying to &#8220;reform&#8221; the gop.</p>
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		<title>By: mdh</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/new-jersey-libertarians-run-ken-kaplan-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-58729</link>
		<dc:creator>mdh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not bad mouthing anyone.  I&#039;m being honest about how the average libertarian feels when they hear the word progressive.  

I could go on to tell you how to proceed if you actually wanted to get anywhere, but it seems like trying to be an internet personality is more entertaining to you.  Fair enough, but complaining without any worthwhile action is just pointless, hopeless, and silly.  It&#039;s all been said before by others anyway, though.  

I will say this much.  If you focused on controlling your mental illness and spent less time on the internet, you would likely have a better chance of leading a fulfilling life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not bad mouthing anyone.  I&#8217;m being honest about how the average libertarian feels when they hear the word progressive.  </p>
<p>I could go on to tell you how to proceed if you actually wanted to get anywhere, but it seems like trying to be an internet personality is more entertaining to you.  Fair enough, but complaining without any worthwhile action is just pointless, hopeless, and silly.  It&#8217;s all been said before by others anyway, though.  </p>
<p>I will say this much.  If you focused on controlling your mental illness and spent less time on the internet, you would likely have a better chance of leading a fulfilling life.</p>
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		<title>By: Mik Robertson</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/new-jersey-libertarians-run-ken-kaplan-for-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-58728</link>
		<dc:creator>Mik Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’d say that most libertarians are (quite correctly) afraid of those who call themselves progressives.&quot;

Unless you consider progressive to mean those who defend the human rights that were subjugated with the rise of conservatism in the 19th century, when liberty came to mean economic liberty. The idea that the survival of the fittest, as Darwin scientifically demonstrated  in the natural world, was seen as the driving force in civilized society as well. Fitness was defined as material success. 

By the late 19th and early 20th century, huge corporations were squishing the rights of the individual. The ideals of the American Revolution had to be brought back into the picture, and the progressive movement helped to do that. 

If you consider progressive to mean socialist or Keynesian, that&#039;s another issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’d say that most libertarians are (quite correctly) afraid of those who call themselves progressives.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unless you consider progressive to mean those who defend the human rights that were subjugated with the rise of conservatism in the 19th century, when liberty came to mean economic liberty. The idea that the survival of the fittest, as Darwin scientifically demonstrated  in the natural world, was seen as the driving force in civilized society as well. Fitness was defined as material success. </p>
<p>By the late 19th and early 20th century, huge corporations were squishing the rights of the individual. The ideals of the American Revolution had to be brought back into the picture, and the progressive movement helped to do that. </p>
<p>If you consider progressive to mean socialist or Keynesian, that&#8217;s another issue.</p>
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