If this doesn’t happen, I will have lost all hope that the LP is interested in promoting Liberty, and will discontinue my membership and my donations.

Ummh, They *ARE* leading. That’s the problem.

Dear Chairman Bill Redpath:

I have recently read a memo in which you say Lee Wrights removal was a direct application of this part of Section 8, Article 4, which states, “A National Committee member shall be a sustaining member of the Party, and shall not be the candidate of any party except the Party or an affiliate.”

It is my understanding that Mr. Wrights has paid his dues and is currently a sustaining member. This renders the provision you quote mute, unless he is the candidate of a party other than the Libertarian Party or an affiliate.

Furthermore, your own memo clearly implies that sustaining membership was the only qualification in question; you said he met all qualifications prior to the lapse.

Since there was not even a formal suspension (Article 7, Section 8), this vacancy doesn’t exist, Lee Wrights is a current LNC member, and the lp.org webpage needs to be updated.

In liberty,
Scotty Boman
Michigan Delegation
313-247-2052

Time to get leaders that are real leaders. Bill, Bob and Aaron lead or step down.

Explaining myself in response to something you said shouldn’t necessarily be construed as being responsive to something you didn’t intend.

I think you’re being entirely too sensitive if you think that I think that you’re implying anything about those who don’t donate

I didn’t say you should donate $25. I also didn’t say it was wrong that you didn’t. I said it’s sad that people don’t give a meager $25.

I also said that I acknowledge this could well be due to the party squandering said money, or disbelief by party members in the purpose such dues would enact.

I think you’re both being entirely too sensitive if you think I’m implying anything about those that don’t donate. I support your right to do as you wish with your money, and am especially supportive of you taking other means to help libertarian causes. What you both missed, apparently, was my thinly veiled criticism of party operations. I wish the party was run more in a manner that people would be more willing to give up a ‘meager’ $25.

And when you don’t, the boat floats away.

It all underscores the need for the Rodney King Caucus.

I wrote on another thread: It is a sad day indeed when libertarians are so enslaved to a computer printout and a set of rules that they will not consider what is the most just and the most politic thing to do.

I love ya man, but you are always playin up the purist bs. What about these guys being bylaws and roberts rules purists? Bow to the almighty RONR some of these guys treat it like its the bible or something. About this Lee deal, do you agree that since his dues have lapsed that he should be removed from the LNC? It’s this ticky tack crap that is ruining the LP. There is going to come a day when all this stuff starts running off guys like Pat Dixon who is neither a radical or a reformer. When that happens we are going to be in trouble as a party. If this is what the LP is devolving into there are alot of people getting ready to move on to other venues in pursuit of freedom.

By checking this box “I acknowledge that contributions from corporations and foreign nationals are prohibited. I also acknowledge that this contribution is made on a personal credit or debit card for which I have the legal obligation to pay, and is made neither on a corporate or business entity card nor on the card of another.”

I recall similar wording on Ron Pauls 2008 site and the DNC site says “The funds I am donating are not being provided to me by another person or entity for the purpose of making this contribution.”

One can only conclude that unless Mr. Haugh has recently married Mr. Wrights, in which case they might have a checking account for which Mr. Haugh and Mr. Wrights have a joint “legal obligation to pay,” that it certainly appears that Sean (knowingly) violated the intent of the FEC regulation (as a Libertarian I am not much for following the rules or paying my taxes, but please remember it was the FEC that put the Reformed Party out of business so it is best to adhere to the rules as much as possible until we can change them).

Therefor, Mr. Starr’s actions in returning the funds donated by Mr. Haugh, appear appropriate since he must do so once he is “aware” that the LNC received funds contributed by one individual (who does not have a shared obligation) in the name of another or on behalf of another.

So folks, please let us move on and concentrate on getting more people, from all sides of the spectrum, into the LP at all levels, so we can save this country. In other words stop fighting amoung ourselves and let’s forcus our attention on where it really belongs!

In Liberty,

Rick M, TX

the Mansons and McVeighs among seem to want us to join the Somali pirates.

Get in the boat and let’s turn it around!

“Purism” starts to feel like a religious movement, rather than a political one.

The problem with this is that the game is on a boat and when you get in their game you are automatically headed downstream in their direction.

You have to learn to be effective just to have a slowing effect on the growth of government.

Right now, you aren’t picking up your end of the rope, and the marker is pulling away from you. Forget about these utopian dreams for a while, and get in the game.

We have to be able to get along IF we truly want to roll back the State. There are so few of us as it is, it stands to reason that politics need large numbers of people to reverse coercion.

Making threatening or crude statements appears contra-indicated. When we have a disagreement (inevitable, I’d suggest), let’s discuss them like adults.

This is not to say that he doesn’t sometimes diagnose dysfuntional behavior in others. But his over-reaction is a symptom of a deep self loathing.

Of course, my take could be incorrect. Perhaps it actually IS appropriate to suggest death by beating and f-ing oneself to those who may be acting dysfunctionally.

In this case, however, I’m liking the odds that I’m warm.