Sipos egotistically double-posting the entire text of his response while whining that here on IPR he can’t control how rebuttals to him are presented? Priceless.

Sipos’s attempted gotcha is already a smoking cinder on the other thread. Enjoy.

Holtz writes: “You [Sipos] have claimed that you print critical letters to the editor, but CF readers will apparently never see the one I sent in January (below)”…

Not true. So not true, it casts doubt on all of Holtz’s other rants and ravings.

Just how much journalist research do you do, Brian?

Brian Holtz’s LTE appeared re: Barr in the March issue, which is online at: http://www.ca.lp.org/cf/CF-200903.pdf

In fact, I printed two LTEs from Holtz in the March issue.

I’ve already received the April issue, so the March issue has long been out, on paper and online.

You can read this exchange on this companion thread: http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/libertarian-party-newsletter-california-freedom-peace-and-glasnost/#comments

Sorry for two threads. You see, this thread is Holtz’s reply to my above thread. But Holtz’s ego is such that he can’t simply post a reply within the thread, he must start a new thread. After all, he’s an LPC “Officer” and as such, he’s Special.

For what it’s worth, I never used to be able to get through a whole issue of CF. I now do reguarly because it’s far more realistic and personal, not just espousing ideals.

Mr. Sipos, fine job, and I hope you’ll keep doing it!

Bruce Cohen: “There was a clear Mission Statement crafted for the paper that Mister Sipos did state he would follow. Which, of course, he did not.”

Yet in public postings to Yahoo groups, which Bruce widely distributed on May 30, 2007 (and which I still have on hard drive), Bruce wrote:

“At the 2007 LPCA Convention in San Ramon, LPCA Board Member Ted Brown came up to me with Tom Sipos. … I then asked them what they would do with the Editorial Mission Statement and the Advertising Policy set in place by Aaron Starr and myself. The two of them [Tom Sipos and Ted Brown] explained these would both be going in the dustbin of history and they would not be having any written policy in either case.”

So first Bruce accuses me of saying that I would not follow the MS. But he also accuses me of saying I would follow the MS.

Bruce, I know you’re eager to elect an ExCom at Visalia that will fire me, but if you’re hoping to build a case, you must get your lies straight.

“has turned the once effective paper into a food fight style free for all.”

The smearing of Mary Ruwart, the harassment of Angela Keaton, the purge of Lee Wrights — that’s the food fight.

Yes, it looks ugly to the world. So those who engage in such behavior should stop it.

Which, of course, he did not.

The paper is not for advocacy, especially for one person’s personal views.

It’s for outreach, promotion and sharing of success strategies.

Instead, Mister Sipos discusses people’s pets and prints their pictures, has articles about vampires and has turned the once effective
paper into a food fight style free for all.

Of course, the content and presentation of the
paper reflects the 15 Members of the LPCA Board, so that speaks to their value and values
quite well.

The discussion is not about Iraq, War, Foreign Policy or Vampires.

Rather, it’s one of the most effective use of a potentially useful outreach and motivational tool for the LPCA.

Unfortunately, Mister Sipos and his Employers don’t care about success by any measure, but rather are in this purely for vanity.

Yeah, this West Coast battle royale is sho nuff gangsta. How gangsta is it?

The place for dealing with it was the LNC meeting , the proper place for voicing anger and dissent would , be blogs , email groups and newsletters/websites owned by individuals and other groups etc.

I dont see why leadership drama,personality/factional battles and offensive pictures of longtime members are being pawned off as news.
Transparency isnt the issue here for me , its whether or not this dirty laundry needs advertising.
arent there enuf other important LP things CF could report on . why do members need to read such ugliness? why does a pic of Aaron Starr , that he finds insulting , need to be reprinted in an official Party newsletter?

does Tom think its going to perhaps sway people to a side who may be delegates somewhere or is he trying to humiliate AAron and others .
It seems hypocritical to scream what a waste of time the LNC pursued with the Discipline of Angela and then to waste more time and space carrying the drama on longer .

If I were a reader it would backfire because it would turn me off to have such nonsense where relevant news should be .

Its like tabloid content , and that leads to lessened credibility not to mention its embarrassing . what if there are folks on the brink of leaving for whatever or new folks wanting to join but apprehensive , seeing 0 story like that may turn them off bigtime. many folks already think we spin our wheels in baseless arguments

You know Whistle abandoned their rap style and turned R&B after their first two albums. I would site Wikipedia but I’d be pulling a “Brian Holtz” and one of him is one too many.