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		<title>By: Donald Raymond Lake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Raymond Lake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Footnote of a footnote. Oh well, more candidates, more democracy! But I would take a BIG hint at the anti war stand of the Irish &#039;Troubles&quot; by real live American AND IRISH voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Footnote of a footnote. Oh well, more candidates, more democracy! But I would take a BIG hint at the anti war stand of the Irish &#8216;Troubles&#8221; by real live American AND IRISH voters.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg Jocoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregg Jocoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I owe Michael a correction.  His name is &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; Calvan, but rather is Cavlan.

His wikipedia entry can be found &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Cavlan&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

While Wikipedia is certainly not the final word on much of anything,  Michael, if the Wikipedia account is accurate, lost the Green Party nomination for state senate in 2002 in part because he refused to disavow IRA terrorism.

He did secure the Minnesota Green Party nomination for US Senate in 2006, bringing in .5% of the vote.  In 2008 he was denied the Minnesota Green Party US Senate nomination at the state convention.

I also point to his positions at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Michael_Cavlan.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;On the Issues&lt;/a&gt;.  On almost all of them I would take positions close to his.  The only glaring exception is that, according to OTI, he supports teaching values in public schools. (Aug 2006).  On that one we disagree indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I owe Michael a correction.  His name is <b>not</b> Calvan, but rather is Cavlan.</p>
<p>His wikipedia entry can be found <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Cavlan" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>While Wikipedia is certainly not the final word on much of anything,  Michael, if the Wikipedia account is accurate, lost the Green Party nomination for state senate in 2002 in part because he refused to disavow IRA terrorism.</p>
<p>He did secure the Minnesota Green Party nomination for US Senate in 2006, bringing in .5% of the vote.  In 2008 he was denied the Minnesota Green Party US Senate nomination at the state convention.</p>
<p>I also point to his positions at <a href="http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Michael_Cavlan.htm" rel="nofollow">On the Issues</a>.  On almost all of them I would take positions close to his.  The only glaring exception is that, according to OTI, he supports teaching values in public schools. (Aug 2006).  On that one we disagree indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: John C Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John C Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 23:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears this meeting was only for &quot;anti-war&quot; groups that support state violence at home, and I see an obvious absence of any principled anti-war folks that are also pro-liberty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears this meeting was only for &#8220;anti-war&#8221; groups that support state violence at home, and I see an obvious absence of any principled anti-war folks that are also pro-liberty.</p>
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		<title>By: Green Ferret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Green Ferret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 13:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When those of us who were former Greens and Independence party folks were asked as to why we had left our respective political parties, we answered the question honestly and openly. The similarities in the answers from activists in both parties were duely noted.&quot;

What did you tell them? No veiled answers, please... just the full text of your remarks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When those of us who were former Greens and Independence party folks were asked as to why we had left our respective political parties, we answered the question honestly and openly. The similarities in the answers from activists in both parties were duely noted.&#8221;</p>
<p>What did you tell them? No veiled answers, please&#8230; just the full text of your remarks.</p>
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		<title>By: Melty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 02:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s unwise for any budding party to support the needlessly elaborate and glitchy &quot;Instant Runoff&quot; voting, or any other elimination &amp; reallocation method. Best bet for better voting today is the world&#039;s simplest, namely Approval Voting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s unwise for any budding party to support the needlessly elaborate and glitchy &#8220;Instant Runoff&#8221; voting, or any other elimination &amp; reallocation method. Best bet for better voting today is the world&#8217;s simplest, namely Approval Voting.</p>
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		<title>By: Melty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 01:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since late summer last year, when solar wind reached record low and there were yet no sunspots strangely, I&#039;ve been predicting a solar minimum, &quot;mini-ice age&quot;. The last one was the Dalton Minimum two centuries ago. Now a half year later and  STILL it&#039;s weak solar wind and no sunspots. Climatologists note that the planet was colder last year than the year before. It&#039;s looking very likely that we are heading for two or more decades of colder weather than anybody remembers. Buff up your nordic skis. If 2009 ends without sunspot activity, you can be sure of chill throughout the two thousand tens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since late summer last year, when solar wind reached record low and there were yet no sunspots strangely, I&#8217;ve been predicting a solar minimum, &#8220;mini-ice age&#8221;. The last one was the Dalton Minimum two centuries ago. Now a half year later and  STILL it&#8217;s weak solar wind and no sunspots. Climatologists note that the planet was colder last year than the year before. It&#8217;s looking very likely that we are heading for two or more decades of colder weather than anybody remembers. Buff up your nordic skis. If 2009 ends without sunspot activity, you can be sure of chill throughout the two thousand tens.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Cavlan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Cavlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 01:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record Gregg Jocoy and his comments show why those of us who actually do the hard work and organizing have left the GP.

Because it has been our experience that it is those who actually do the work are attacked and smeared.
That has been the case with the folks who left the Minnesota Independence Party also.

They are called sabotouers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record Gregg Jocoy and his comments show why those of us who actually do the hard work and organizing have left the GP.</p>
<p>Because it has been our experience that it is those who actually do the work are attacked and smeared.<br />
That has been the case with the folks who left the Minnesota Independence Party also.</p>
<p>They are called sabotouers</p>
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		<title>By: mdh</title>
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		<dc:creator>mdh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paulie&#039;s scenario is exactly correct.  In fact, it happens in real life.  How does the government in your ideal society deal with people who do not initiate force or coercion against  anyone else, but who simply refuse to participate in government-mandated activities such as the surrendering of earned wealth?  

Above and beyond that, you oppose governments using lethal force, but what about when non-lethal force leads to death due to pre-existing health problems?  Above and beyond that, is assaulting a citizen who has never committed violence against another an OK thing in your ideal society?  It isn&#039;t in mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paulie&#8217;s scenario is exactly correct.  In fact, it happens in real life.  How does the government in your ideal society deal with people who do not initiate force or coercion against  anyone else, but who simply refuse to participate in government-mandated activities such as the surrendering of earned wealth?  </p>
<p>Above and beyond that, you oppose governments using lethal force, but what about when non-lethal force leads to death due to pre-existing health problems?  Above and beyond that, is assaulting a citizen who has never committed violence against another an OK thing in your ideal society?  It isn&#8217;t in mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Milnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Milnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If participation in government programs was voluntary...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If participation in government programs was voluntary&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg Jocoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregg Jocoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;We had kept it small on purpose with about 30 activists invited and present.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Very democratic of you.  What would you have done if someone came who was &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; invited?

Michael also wrote:&lt;blockquote&gt;Only people who were serious about building a solid, effective response to the two party system were invited and welcomed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I can&#039;t help but wonder what criteria were used to determine who was &quot;serious&quot;.  Did one have to be a &quot;former&quot; member of a third party?  Did one have to be an armchair activist, spending most of their energy behind a keyboard?

Michael also wrote:&lt;blockquote&gt;
When those of us who were former Greens and Independence party folks were asked as to why we had left our respective political parties, we answered the question honestly and openly. The similarities in the answers from activists in both parties were duely noted.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I imagine that this same set of excuses would be used by those who left the Reform Party, Working Families Party, Labor Party, or any other alternative party.  Some folks just don&#039;t get the concept of not always getting their way.  Politics is hard, and some don&#039;t care to do the real work, preferring instead to complain about those who do want to do the real work.

~Carefully steps down from his soap box~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>We had kept it small on purpose with about 30 activists invited and present.</p></blockquote>
<p>Very democratic of you.  What would you have done if someone came who was <b>not</b> invited?</p>
<p>Michael also wrote:<br />
<blockquote>Only people who were serious about building a solid, effective response to the two party system were invited and welcomed.</p></blockquote>
<p>I can&#8217;t help but wonder what criteria were used to determine who was &#8220;serious&#8221;.  Did one have to be a &#8220;former&#8221; member of a third party?  Did one have to be an armchair activist, spending most of their energy behind a keyboard?</p>
<p>Michael also wrote:<br />
<blockquote>
When those of us who were former Greens and Independence party folks were asked as to why we had left our respective political parties, we answered the question honestly and openly. The similarities in the answers from activists in both parties were duely noted.</p></blockquote>
<p>I imagine that this same set of excuses would be used by those who left the Reform Party, Working Families Party, Labor Party, or any other alternative party.  Some folks just don&#8217;t get the concept of not always getting their way.  Politics is hard, and some don&#8217;t care to do the real work, preferring instead to complain about those who do want to do the real work.</p>
<p>~Carefully steps down from his soap box~</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg Jocoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregg Jocoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually paulie, I kinda wonder what *would* happen if a tax were made voluntary.  One way to give that idea a try would be to begin by allowing taxpayers a chance to direct at least *some* of their taxes towards or away from programs they liked or opposed.

We can&#039;t keep on doing things the same way we have in the past if we want different outcomes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually paulie, I kinda wonder what *would* happen if a tax were made voluntary.  One way to give that idea a try would be to begin by allowing taxpayers a chance to direct at least *some* of their taxes towards or away from programs they liked or opposed.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t keep on doing things the same way we have in the past if we want different outcomes.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I&#039;m sure you are familiar with this one, but for discussion: 

Suppose someone does not agree to pay a tax. 

Do you send agents to arrest them? 

If they resist arrest, would those agents use force - up to deadly force if they have to - to execute the arreest?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I&#8217;m sure you are familiar with this one, but for discussion: </p>
<p>Suppose someone does not agree to pay a tax. </p>
<p>Do you send agents to arrest them? </p>
<p>If they resist arrest, would those agents use force &#8211; up to deadly force if they have to &#8211; to execute the arreest?</p>
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		<title>By: Woof!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woof!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...collect and spend some money for group projects such as roadways. &quot;


Spending money on roadways and highways has been one of the major socialist failures of the US government.  And a greater tragedy as the world has chosen to follow.

It has caused the building of too many roads and highways, too many cars, too much air pollution, urban sprawl, congestion and traffic problems, reliance on imports, disasterous foreign policy in obtaining imports, plots and assassinations and coups by the CIA to obtain supplies and war.

The free market would use walking, elevators and people moving technologies which are much cheaper to construct and maintain, energy efficient, cleaner, and healthier alternatives in the absence of the socialist transportation system.


But, the government should provide more cute, little red fire-hydrants.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;collect and spend some money for group projects such as roadways. &#8221;</p>
<p>Spending money on roadways and highways has been one of the major socialist failures of the US government.  And a greater tragedy as the world has chosen to follow.</p>
<p>It has caused the building of too many roads and highways, too many cars, too much air pollution, urban sprawl, congestion and traffic problems, reliance on imports, disasterous foreign policy in obtaining imports, plots and assassinations and coups by the CIA to obtain supplies and war.</p>
<p>The free market would use walking, elevators and people moving technologies which are much cheaper to construct and maintain, energy efficient, cleaner, and healthier alternatives in the absence of the socialist transportation system.</p>
<p>But, the government should provide more cute, little red fire-hydrants.</p>
<p>woof!</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberly Wilder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimberly Wilder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mdh:

Interesting perspective.

And, as a former Libertarian and &quot;Advocate for Self-Government&quot;, I get what you are saying, and agree part way.

I just think that if government was fair, and ran very democratically (ie: something deeper than just a winner-take-all voting system), that there would be agreements among people that the government set some guidelines for group behavior, and collect and spend some money for group projects such as roadways. 

I do believe that the government should not be allowed to execute/murder anyone. So, I am demanding non-violence of the government in that respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mdh:</p>
<p>Interesting perspective.</p>
<p>And, as a former Libertarian and &#8220;Advocate for Self-Government&#8221;, I get what you are saying, and agree part way.</p>
<p>I just think that if government was fair, and ran very democratically (ie: something deeper than just a winner-take-all voting system), that there would be agreements among people that the government set some guidelines for group behavior, and collect and spend some money for group projects such as roadways. </p>
<p>I do believe that the government should not be allowed to execute/murder anyone. So, I am demanding non-violence of the government in that respect.</p>
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		<title>By: mdh</title>
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		<dc:creator>mdh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kimberly, isn&#039;t the libertarian anarchist ideology the only one that actually purports true non-violence?  It seems that the Green Party still advocates the existence of a government which would take enforcement actions which would entail the initiation of force and coercion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kimberly, isn&#8217;t the libertarian anarchist ideology the only one that actually purports true non-violence?  It seems that the Green Party still advocates the existence of a government which would take enforcement actions which would entail the initiation of force and coercion.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberly Wilder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimberly Wilder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe I have expressed this to some of the parties involved. But, one of my basic, political premises is non-violence and absolute rejection of war.

If one of these groups could articulate that, I could join.

I do not think that is expressly pointed out in the platform of the Peace and Freedom Party (trust me, I studied in, looking for a home.) 

But, I don&#039;t think it is oppositional to the Peace and Freedom Party, if I understand.

So, if the folks coalitioning came up with &quot;non-violence&quot; as a spelled out value or platform item, I might be &quot;in&quot;.

(Ummm...maybe I should not warn people!)

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe I have expressed this to some of the parties involved. But, one of my basic, political premises is non-violence and absolute rejection of war.</p>
<p>If one of these groups could articulate that, I could join.</p>
<p>I do not think that is expressly pointed out in the platform of the Peace and Freedom Party (trust me, I studied in, looking for a home.) </p>
<p>But, I don&#8217;t think it is oppositional to the Peace and Freedom Party, if I understand.</p>
<p>So, if the folks coalitioning came up with &#8220;non-violence&#8221; as a spelled out value or platform item, I might be &#8220;in&#8221;.</p>
<p>(Ummm&#8230;maybe I should not warn people!)</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Donald Raymond Lake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Raymond Lake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A step in the correct direction. Any one else got energy after 2008? All the hype sure wore me down!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A step in the correct direction. Any one else got energy after 2008? All the hype sure wore me down!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Milnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Milnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 05:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The progressive alliance strategy is the correct 
strategy. In 4 years most of dems &amp; reps could be voted out culminating with election of progressive/libertarian executive ticket in 2012. That ticket could have a Green &amp; Libertarian majority Congress. Even if Nader/Gonzales or Barr/Root or McKinney/Clemente had been elected they still would have had a dem/rep Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The progressive alliance strategy is the correct<br />
strategy. In 4 years most of dems &amp; reps could be voted out culminating with election of progressive/libertarian executive ticket in 2012. That ticket could have a Green &amp; Libertarian majority Congress. Even if Nader/Gonzales or Barr/Root or McKinney/Clemente had been elected they still would have had a dem/rep Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Shoc+** **</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Shoc+** **</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MN LP &amp; CP members should join in on the areas they can agree. The Military Industrial Complex and their controlled media is certainly hindering third party progress and want WARS and more WARS!

Now if our friends would only wake up to the FRAUD of their lives...
Climate Chaos? Don&#039;t Believe it! (U.K. Sunday Telegraph Nov. 5, 2006) 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/05/nosplit/nwarm05.xml
...the &quot;climate-change&quot; scare is less about saving the planet than, in Jacques Chirac&#039;s chilling phrase, 
&quot;creating world government&quot; ~ Christopher Monckton

Is Global Warming on the Wane? (2009) http://www.almanac.com/timeline/
Some scientists believe that an extreme cooling episode, potentially a mini-ice age, is imminent. Others think that it may already be under way.
We at the Almanac are among those who believe that sunspot cycles and their effects on oceans correlate with climate changes. Studying these and other factors suggests that a cold, not warm, climate may be in our future.
-By Joseph D&#039;Aleo, From The 2009 Old Farmer&#039;s Almanac

In a report titled The First Global Revolution, pg. 115, (1991) published by the CLUB of ROME, a globalist think tank, we find the following statement:  &#039;In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill....  All these dangers are caused by human intervention...  The real enemy, then, is humanity itself&#039;.&quot; 

WEATHER CHANNEL Founder -John Coleman slams global warming HOAX (1 of 4): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk8SSqc7ekM

John Coleman slams global warming (2 of 4): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PuyvDCF95U

John Coleman slams global warming (3 of 4): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saqIqea6C0s

John Coleman slams global warming (4 of 4): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9ZXdX3qtQI

WEATHER CHANNEL Founder - Al Gore is a FRAUD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B05xnnVjJk

Glenn Beck: Global Warming greatest scam in history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft8LfE7AI2w
***
&quot;The underlying reason indeed why both parties have failed to take the people&#039;s side in the present crisis is that neither party can openly attack the real evils which are undermining representative government without convicting themselves of treachery to the voters during their recent tenure in office.&quot; Robert Marion La Follette, Sr. 
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&quot;Decades of compromise has left us with “two” political parties that have become so similar, it is nearly impossible to distinguish one from the other. With virtually no opposing power left in Washington, we are continually victimized by a lawless, one-party system that is driving us into moral and fiscal bankruptcy.&quot; ~ Mary Starrett

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTahZE4q90U

&quot;This country is a one-party country. Half of that party is called Republican and half is called Democrat. It doesn&#039;t make any difference. All the really good ideas belong to the Libertarians.&quot; 
-- (former long time ABC&#039;s 20/20 host) Hugh Downs as a guest on Politically Incorrect  3/31/97</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MN LP &amp; CP members should join in on the areas they can agree. The Military Industrial Complex and their controlled media is certainly hindering third party progress and want WARS and more WARS!</p>
<p>Now if our friends would only wake up to the FRAUD of their lives&#8230;<br />
Climate Chaos? Don&#8217;t Believe it! (U.K. Sunday Telegraph Nov. 5, 2006)<br />
<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/05/nosplit/nwarm05.xml" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/05/nosplit/nwarm05.xml</a><br />
&#8230;the &#8220;climate-change&#8221; scare is less about saving the planet than, in Jacques Chirac&#8217;s chilling phrase,<br />
&#8220;creating world government&#8221; ~ Christopher Monckton</p>
<p>Is Global Warming on the Wane? (2009) <a href="http://www.almanac.com/timeline/" rel="nofollow">http://www.almanac.com/timeline/</a><br />
Some scientists believe that an extreme cooling episode, potentially a mini-ice age, is imminent. Others think that it may already be under way.<br />
We at the Almanac are among those who believe that sunspot cycles and their effects on oceans correlate with climate changes. Studying these and other factors suggests that a cold, not warm, climate may be in our future.<br />
-By Joseph D&#8217;Aleo, From The 2009 Old Farmer&#8217;s Almanac</p>
<p>In a report titled The First Global Revolution, pg. 115, (1991) published by the CLUB of ROME, a globalist think tank, we find the following statement:  &#8216;In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill&#8230;.  All these dangers are caused by human intervention&#8230;  The real enemy, then, is humanity itself&#8217;.&#8221; </p>
<p>WEATHER CHANNEL Founder -John Coleman slams global warming HOAX (1 of 4): <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk8SSqc7ekM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk8SSqc7ekM</a></p>
<p>John Coleman slams global warming (2 of 4): <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PuyvDCF95U" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PuyvDCF95U</a></p>
<p>John Coleman slams global warming (3 of 4): <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saqIqea6C0s" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saqIqea6C0s</a></p>
<p>John Coleman slams global warming (4 of 4): <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9ZXdX3qtQI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9ZXdX3qtQI</a></p>
<p>WEATHER CHANNEL Founder &#8211; Al Gore is a FRAUD: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B05xnnVjJk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B05xnnVjJk</a></p>
<p>Glenn Beck: Global Warming greatest scam in history: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft8LfE7AI2w" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft8LfE7AI2w</a><br />
***<br />
&#8220;The underlying reason indeed why both parties have failed to take the people&#8217;s side in the present crisis is that neither party can openly attack the real evils which are undermining representative government without convicting themselves of treachery to the voters during their recent tenure in office.&#8221; Robert Marion La Follette, Sr.<br />
***<br />
&#8220;Decades of compromise has left us with “two” political parties that have become so similar, it is nearly impossible to distinguish one from the other. With virtually no opposing power left in Washington, we are continually victimized by a lawless, one-party system that is driving us into moral and fiscal bankruptcy.&#8221; ~ Mary Starrett</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTahZE4q90U" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTahZE4q90U</a></p>
<p>&#8220;This country is a one-party country. Half of that party is called Republican and half is called Democrat. It doesn&#8217;t make any difference. All the really good ideas belong to the Libertarians.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; (former long time ABC&#8217;s 20/20 host) Hugh Downs as a guest on Politically Incorrect  3/31/97</p>
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		<dc:creator>PTK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish something like this would happen down here in Florida, I would so attend it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish something like this would happen down here in Florida, I would so attend it.</p>
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