Subject: [Libertariansfor911Truth] Porn industry seeks federal bailout
To: Libertariansfor911Truth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 3:11 PM

Porn industry seeks federal bailout

Posted: 03:00 PM ET

From CNN’s Rebecca Sinderbrand and Mark Preston

Larry Flynt is asking for a bailout.

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Another major American industry is asking for assistance as the global financial crisis continues: Hustler publisher Larry Flynt and Girls Gone Wild CEO Joe Francis said Wednesday they will request that Congress allocate $5 billion for a bailout of the adult entertainment industry.

“The take here is that everyone and their mother want to be bailed out from the banks to the big three,” said Owen Moogan, spokesman for Larry Flynt. “The porn industry has been hurt by the downturn like everyone else and they are going to ask for the $5 billion. Is it the most serious thing in the world? Is it going to make the lives of Americans better if it happens? It is not for them to determine.”

Francis said in a statement that “the US government should actively support the adult industry’s survival and growth, just as it feels the need to support any other industry cherished by the American people.”

“We should be delivering [the request] by the end of today to our congressmen and [Secretary of the Treasury Henry] Paulson asking for this $5 billion dollar bailout,” he told CNN Wednesday.

Flynt and Francis concede the industry itself is in no financial danger — DVD sales have slipped over the past year, but Web traffic has continued to grow.

But the industry leaders said the issue is a nation in need. “People are too depressed to be sexually active,” Flynt said in the statement. “This is very unhealthy as a nation. Americans can do without cars and such but they cannot do without sex.”

“With all this economic misery and people losing all that money, sex is the farthest thing from their mind. It’s time for congress to rejuvenate the sexual appetite of America. The only way they can do this is by supporting the adult industry and doing it quickly.”

So far, there has been no congressional reaction to the request.

–CNN’s Chloe Melas contributed to this report

Exaggerate much?

As MW pointed out, this is the position of some radicals but not all. What IS an actual stated position of the caucus is more concerned with (re)radicalizing the LP than with the sort of specific policy-level statement you mentioned:

http://www.lpradicals.org/pages/home/key-points.php

To imagine that you don’t belong in a caucus because you disagree with what some folks reported as their personal opinions in an informal discussion is a bit overly sensitive, don’t you think?

When speaking of strategy, you say:

The answer, I would suggest, is to go where they’re [D and R) not… and do what they don’t.

And that is a pretty widely – though not universally – held opinion on strategy within the radical caucus.

Keep your powder dry…

AS for NLP they could let the lease run out at the high priced Watergate and move the Nat Office to each state HQ where the Nat.Convention will be held each two years. Pay those state workers a commission on the funds they actually collect for NLP not a bloated salary. It needs to become a lean mean fightin’ machine, not a bloated Republican club enriching only a few (non-producers at that) at the top…

You might add the possibility that the Maya may have been a couple of years off on their calendar due to “rounding off” and time will come to an end earlier than expected.

So our hundred and some odd thousand, against that backdrop, is like the buzzing of a gnat’s wings.

We are never going to have any measure of success if we are trying to be “just like the big boys and girls”, and do things just like the big boys and girls do, but with 0.1% of the budget. We will never rise above the chatter that way.

The answer, I would suggest, is to go where they’re not… and do what they don’t.

“For complete details, see The Daily Liberty thedailyliberty. com”

and realize that the URL Link answers some of your questions.

Things that are more likely to happen than the courts ruling that Obama is not a natural born citizen on or before 2009.01.20:

1. Bush declaring martial law and staying in office

2. The KKK outsmarting the Secret Service

3. BHO keeling over from a heart attack

4. A meteor ending all human life

5. Sudden reversal of the north and south poles

6. The entire leadership of the country and all other countries coming out of the closet as shape-shifting reptiles from outer space

7. An anarcho-capitalist revolution followed by the immediate advent of the Second Coming of Christ

More seriously, a collapse of the dollar does not seem too unlikely. Additional terrorist attacks on a larger scale than 9/11 and/or massive outbreaks of deadly infectious disease seem plausible. More, larger, Katrina-like disasters – certainly possible. I think NorthCom has more to do with those than any fantasy that the courts will find Obama ineligible.

Be careful what you wish for; you just might get it. In which case there will be nationwide riots and marital law – imposed by the DOD’s NorthCom – or don’t you read the news?

The new LP site is a huge upgrade from the old one. For IT purposes, I would assume that is actually a really small number.

I don’t hold it against the LP that they’re begging for money — LvMI and LRC do it too, along with other libertarian organizations — but the money that they do get seems to be poorly spent, which is the real issue.

Perhaps it’s time to ask whether a (explicitly) libertarian party was ever a good idea; perhaps it’s time to let the LP, or at least the national LP, fade away.

We’ll see.

What I’d like to know is what the money was spent on consultants for and who those consultants were. That’s $12,690.
Then there is the IT work at $17,977 what does that consist of?

Brilliant, I agree! I want the LP to die too.

Mailings $21,779 – should be increased, the LP should also look to cutting costs in what they’re mailing out.

Politics $18,675 – what?

Office $18,407, including rent, office equipment, and supplies. – Necessity, I suppose

Information Technology $17,977 – um, what?

Consultants $12,690 – why bother?

Legal expenses $7,564 – for what? lawsuits. not always a bad idea

Staff Travel $4,320 – There should be no staff travel, most communication should be accomplished through internet networking

Moving money around $3042 – What is this?

D&O Insurance 821 – What is this?

No, I don’t “capice.” Work study for the CIA? You sound like a tinfoil hat nut.

Root seems to have an Obama obsession, because they were both at the same social position in Columbia, but Obama went on to become president, while Root is an infomercial huckster who couldn’t even get a third party presidential nomination.

Root blames affirmative action. However, while I disagree with many of Obama’s policies, I believe that he is a better man than Root. The better man (if not the better policies) won.

The Libertarian National Committee has made its FEC filing for the period October 16-November 24, 2008. For the period, they raised $144,639 and spent $141,096. The totals to date for the year are then $1,570,548 in income and $1,670,914 in expenditures. Over the past 8 years LNC income for a Presidential election year has fallen by more than half, while at the same time fixed expenses such as office rent and web support have increased markedly. In 2004 for the same October-November period the LNC raised $213,826 and spent $263,271 … In 2000, for the October-November period the LNC raised more than twice as much as 2004, namely $437,583 out of a year total-to-date of $3,159,471.

And what did the LNC do with your money? For starters, they actually spent a little money on real politics, namely $11,000 of non-candidate-specific radio ads. They paid staff, a net of $18,401. For an organization that professes to believe that social security retirement is a scam that is sure not to pay, they spent very little money ($1,241 for 401K and matching) on retirement benefits for their staff.

They also spent money on:
Employees $29,938 including pay, retirement, unemployment, etc.
Mailings $21,779
Politics $18,675
Office $18,407, including rent, office equipment, and supplies.
Information Technology $17,977
Consultants $12,690
Legal expenses $7,564
Staff Travel $4,320
Moving money around $3042
D&O Insurance 821

For complete details, see The Daily Liberty thedailyliberty. com

Your point[?] cause I should did not connect!