http://freedomballotaccess.org

for anyone who wants to donate to getting an early start on ballot access.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre_Marrou

Yes, I know, but I don’t see how it relates to 36.

36 was in response to

“I am glad that Stewie-baby resents it, and I like the thought that Carling, Root, Marrou, and Mattson resent it.”

What does Marrou have to do with the above list? Has he weighed in on this issue somewhere that I missed?

For that matter, I have not see Root or Mattson comment on the issue, and the comments I have seen from Carling that touched on it have been about parliamentary procedure issues, bylaws, and other stuff that makes my eyes glaze over.

On the other hand, I just know looked at it from a different angle…you like the thought that the above named people resent it, much as you might like the thought that Pope Benedict and Hugo Chavez resent it.

1) What have we learned this year that will serve us in getting on 50 states plus DC in 2010 and 2012?

It takes planning and effort to get on all 50 state ballots. Many states have to be started early, and some, like New Hampshire can evidently be knocked off at the last minute, so even though they don’t do substitution, not to worry. The Boston Tea Party is already planning our 50 state strategy for 2010.

2) How can we raise the max funds to have the max impact in the next election cycles?

Apparently having a candidate who is actually libertarian makes a difference to many libertarian contributors. Go figure.

3) How can we educate our candidates to present the best possible messages in earned media coverage?

I think the best spokespeople this year have included Charles Jay, Tom Knapp, and George Donnelly, just judging from the stuff I’ve seen. Admittedly, my focus is BTP.

It is very good that this year many candidates, including quite a few LP candidates endorsed by BTP, were the difference in their races between the incumbent winning or losing. So that point can be mentioned in upcoming elections. Also, guys like Jeff Hunt in Duval County who won their races can share their winning strategies, tactics, and operations ideas. These winners ought to be paid to come around and share their insights with other campaigns.

4) How can we best work to end these unjust wars as quickly as possible?

Well, rioting the streets and burning the recruitment centers and ROTC buildings was the big thing in 1968-71 or so. Is that best practice, though?

A lot of men who were in the military at the time believe that it was the unwillingness of the troops to continue serving, as documented in films like “Sir, No Sir!” which ended the Vietnam war. Iraq Veterans Against the War promotes this type of disobedience to some people, I gather. IVAW.org might be a good place to look for other ideas.

5) How can we best work to stop the government from owning all business activity in the USA?

Don’t buy their bonds, to start. If you own any government securities, sell them.

Much of the consolidation of industry began at the end of the 19th Century with, ironically, anti-trust legislation. Also things like the Interstate Commerce Commission which allegedly regulated the railroads were instrumental in consolidating that industry and other agencies did the same in other industries.

The Federal Reserve system is probably the keystone in the consolidation of the banking industry.

Obviously with a policy of economic fascism it becomes significant which companies get the inside track. Eliminating the income tax would go a long way toward reducing the size and scope of government. A less powerful government is less useful when corrupted, so it attracts less corruption, I think.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre_Marrou

http://delawarelibertarian.blogspot.com/2008/12/because-absudity-is-obviously-foreign.html

The charge of sabotaging LP fund-raising is serious, but there is not quite enough evidence here to confirm that sabotage happened. LNC will have to decide if it thinks Angela was trying to sabotage fund-raising, as opposed to just clearing her conscience by correcting any mis-perceptions she thinks she may have helped give those donors. Without testimony from any of the donors, the evidence here wouldn’t appear to an LNC outsider to warrant suspension from LNC.

Criticism of the LNC’s litigation choices should not warrant suspension. LNC will have to decide whether Angela went beyond good-faith criticism with this message to LPNH Chair Brendan Kelly asking him to not join an LNC lawsuit. The charges don’t say enough about the lawsuit for an otherwise uninformed LP member to agree that Angela’s message warrants suspension.

Somebody reported that LNC’s counsel Bill Hall thinks Angela was within her rights to publicly divulge a defamatory claim about her that was reported in executive session. That sounds reasonable to me, but I can’t rule out that there are arguments that would make me think she should apologize and desist. For the disclosure about Shotgun Willie’s to be actionable in the eyes of an LNC outsider, the charges would need to explain why that subject was a proper matter for executive session.

Flood’s report of a verbal threat by Angela is very disturbing, but even without hearing Angela’s defense it’s hard to see how even this facially credible report can overcome the benefit of the doubt that Angela deserves.

Below is the minimum apology that Angela should be asked for:

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I apologize to any LP member who misinterpreted a couple of my most satirical and exasperated recent statements expressing my concern over the state of the party — viz., “friends don’t let friends join the LP” and “the LP is hopeless”. If I really thought the LP is not worth joining or improving, then I would have already resigned from the LNC. I will refrain from such statements for the remainder of my service on LNC.

I apologize to the LP for the collective deprecation (per LNC Policy Manual 8.A.) that can be inferred from me calling an LP member from the South a “hillbilly” and further saying “All those Christian types married to their uncle cousins look the same to me.” I will refrain from such statements for the remainder of my service on LNC.

I apologize to any LP member who interpreted my compliments to LP staff as sexual advances (per LNC Policy Manual 8.B.) and thus worried about theoretical LP exposure to sexual harassment accusations. I will refrain from such statements for the remainder of my service on LNC.

If we cannot function with a general transparency and proceed to render verdict or judgment without reasonable due process, I would consider such resolutions as necessary for potential secession of affiliates as reasonable and with proper cause.

That’s where I got that from.

Thanks again.

Awesome coverage. I’m impressed. And at the same time, once again saddened I can’t get you to group blog.

Anyway, one thing….I read Sundwall’s piece and did not see anything about disaffiliating, but you did say it was oblique. What did I miss?

Navigating the Keaton-LNC Brouhaha

http://georgedonnelly.com/libertarian/keaton-lnc-brouhaha

Mr. Sipos, thank-you very much for that NY Times link. I grew-up in Las Vegas, and have considered it home, even in the times my nomadic urges had caused me to reside elsewhere. I am living there again, possibly to stay. The part of the article about Root was not surprising, or even a better part of it. I have had the pleasure of meeting both Lem Banker, and Jimmy Vaccaro, although just in casual circumstances. They both give off the aura of Old Las Vegas. It is a sad statement about Corporate Vegas’ present state of affairs, when I wax nostalgic about good times past, when mafia frontmen and thugs ran the show.

Mr. Buchman , I believe you are not fully aware of what exactly is at stake here. I readily admit that I have never been a big LP activist, yet my association with the party dates back well over two decades now. I manned petition tables many times to help secure ballot access for the party, have generally been a staunch and vocal proponent of it , have convinced many to vote for libertarian candidates, and a smaller number to register as LP members. I consider myself to be a True Friend of Liberty. I am in my own small way, partly responsible for the LP being. I firmly believe in accepting personal responsibility for the effects which flow as cause from past actions. If the LP has irreconcilably become tainted with equivocators and compromisers; is being controlled by poseur reconstructionists and fainéant conservatives who care naught of liberty excepting their being at liberty to enrich themselves off the product of other people’s labours, then the party has become a monster, and personal honour dictates that I cannot simply walk-away in disgust; must instead work to assure that this Frankenstein I helped create never matures into a position of political primacy. With great amusement I willfully embrace the “Anarchist Wing” of the LP, but the irrational fantasies that many have when contemplating the term is a cardboard tiger compared to the reality of a nihilist insurgency.

When I asked the LNC to commit committee suicide, I was not expecting they would actually listen to me, LOL.

What? You expect them to act like a real political party?

“I challenge anyone with a sense of humor to read through the allegations against her without laughing at least once.”

Always LOVE Starchild’s insightful comments. Right to the point, and unlike most others here, far more light than heat generated by them.

I’ll offer two more challenges for LIBERTY LOVING Americans/Humans

2) Read through the charges without crying/feeling deep sadness for the state of the LP.

3) Read through all the posts related to this issue here and in other threads without falling asleep.

It’s time to focus (past time actually) on activities that advance the cause of Liberty on the planet, else the LP will quickly become irrelevant to that cause.

Whatever Angela has done that’s truly out of line (and some of it does concern me) appears to have been more than compensated for with these charges being posted online. IMO she’s already been amply chastised.

Replace her “discipline” on the agenda with questions like:

1) What have we learned this year that will serve us in getting on 50 states plus DC in 2010 and 2012?

2) How can we raise the max funds to have the max impact in the next election cycles?

3) How can we educate our candidates to present the best possible messages in earned media coverage?

4) How can we best work to end these unjust wars as quickly as possible?

5) How can we best work to stop the government from owning all business activity in the USA?

AFTER those questions (and others like them) are fully answered, if someone wants to raise the discipline of Angela (especially if it involves handcuffs and spanking) I might be willing to listen, or support it. (Sad to see my level of interest in porn has dropped to such a low state.)

In the meantime, if that’s the LP’s number one (or even number 10) priority, I’d rather find some other way to work to advance the cause of Liberty.

At least that’s the business I thought we were all in here.

Joe
http://www.buchmanforcongress.com