I hate your lack of compassion for so many other humans.
I hate your thick hick Arkansas slang and your dirty-white-trash accent.
I hate your obsession with needing to put down gays.
I hate that you always wanted to talk about sex and “big black dicks” and penis sizes.
I hate that you oppress women.
I hate your loud mouth.
I hate your total ignorance.
I hate the filthy stinking mod where people are supposed to sleep.
I hate having to listen to your blow-hard church services, where you practiced your hatred spewing.
I hate the way that you and Wiley jr. accept that people are not supposed to move on and transition into a real life and find a place to live.
I hate the way that you use your pulpit to further your own agenda and sick ideas about how people should live their lives.
I hate your beady eyes looking at me.
I hate your mental illness and the way that you think that all women are after you.
I hate your delusional mind.
I hate the nightmares that I still have, to this day, of that horrendous experience at your church.

A form of prostitution.

Petitioning is collecting signatures for a political cause/party/candidate. Usually for about $1 per signature.

PEACE

Getting signatures to put issues on the ballot. Each signature you get pays money and sometimes you can stack them and have people sign a bunch at a time. The pay varies a lot.

{{{…Also petitioning and sparechanging,…}}}What’s petitioning?

I guess I don’t have an addicts brain. Drugs just never appealed to me.

Oh yeah. And drugs.

No, I never stayed at any shelters there. Just motels and jail.

That entire area is full of prostitutes and crime now. What were you doing staying at those places?

Prostitutes and crime.

Well, not all the time. Also petitioning and sparechanging, and voter registration.

I got clean again about a year later. Well, not 100%, but I got the monkey off my back.

Sorta’ did. Of the core group of 15 or so that helped to start the shelter, most of us had ties to the Catholic Worker movement:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_worker

But that doesn’t mean that those we were trying to help wanted to hear anything about anarchism, or even about political activism.

PEACE

Thank you, I appreciate that. But I’m not in that part of the country now.

When I went to the women’s shelter, my life changed dramatically for the better.

Glad to hear you are doing better.

The thing is, that people do not understand the homeless problem.

It’s not easy to understand for those who haven’t experienced it. A lot of people’s perspectives would change if they spent a week on the streets.

I stayed at the Motor Inn Lodge on Orangethorpe above Beach, after i left the dirty shelter, while I was waiting for my interview for the women’s shelter. The desk clerk told me some strange stories about Drake. He said that years ago, DRake was accused of abusing a woman, a very young woman while she was at his shelter. So the police were paying her to stay at the Motor Inn while they took reports on him.

You should’ve fed them libertarianism

If you are good looking, I might ask to watch or join in, but I wouldn’t insist. Is that abuse?

Some of my frequent residences in OC were the Covered Wagon motel in west Anaheim and the OC jails (in SA and the farm)

Also, the other rathole motels around Beach and Ball, but the Covered Wagon was my main spot.

We couldn’t get the city to allow a zoning variance, so we opened without one. The zoning laws did not have a “variance” for a shelter. Cops tried to shut us down several times. They would always back off when we called the TV stations.

Some of the folks we were helping bitched constantly about how little we were doing for them. Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches? Why, they were men! They needed meat!

And the filth!! Try keeping a place clean with 60-120 people around constantly! But we did do what we could, with the funding that we had.

And of course the media was around lot, especially when temperatures dropped. Enough that some people said we did it just for the media attention.

PEACE

(((No one else quotes text this way.)))

The “beef” is the Pastor and his uncompassionate attitude. Not Cinamingrl’s art. Haven’t any of you rightists every seen or read Manga?

I’m not a rightist, I like your drawings, and if I ran a shelter, you would be welcome to have lesbian sex there, since I have nothing against it.

As for alcohol and drugs, it would depend on whether it was leading to behavior that would make things too difficult for other people there.

As it stands, I am more likely headed in the direction of staying at a shelter than running one.

It doesn’t appear that any of you knows the problem since you do not live in the Orange County area of Califirnia.

I’ve lived there before. Some of my frequent residences in OC were the Covered Wagon motel in west Anaheim and the OC jails (in SA and the farm).

And as far as women liking women and the Pastor’s supposed intolerance of that,……if that is all he is worried about, then that congregation is hurting more than we all realize.

It wouldn’t worry me, but it’s his property and he has a right to his religious beliefs. He doesn’t have to run a shelter and help anyone; he can do so on his own terms, even though they are not mine.

He tolerates women being abused at his shelter, but he doesn’t tolerate gays? This is insane.

Do you have specific evidence of abuse? As for what he tolerates, it’s his property and his business. My rules would be entirely different if I was in charge.

Cinamingrl can use the same rights to voice her opinion about Wiley Drake, that Drake himself

Certainly, even if she choose to make allegations and not provide evidence, or use multiple screen names.

One love.

clue #2, comment 4: “He also has a black man working for him at his homeless shelter. But that doesn’t mean that he isn’t racist. ”

clue #3, coment 7: “He talks openly about it in his church services. It isn’t a secret. I have heard him talk about it in person.”

clue #4, comment 11: “I know for a fact that he answers his cell phone at any hour of the day or night. ”

additional clues in comment 14: “. He is obsessed with gays and “homosexuals”. … He has an entire congregation of homeless people who he doesn’t help. … Some just need a temporary place to live and some compassion. …. A lot of enabling goes on at his shelter, enabling and abuse. The Health Department is at his shelter literally thousands of times a year, thousands. It’s so filthy. ”

Final clue: lesbian drawings on cinamingirl’s webpage, which says her name is Christine (see your comment 6).

So, my guess is that Christine is likely to be someone who enjoys the company of women in more than a casual or friendly manner, and may have been kicked out of Drake’s shelter because of that, due to his own religious beliefs and being judgmental in not allowing that on his property. Possibly same with alcohol and illegal drugs. If not, then maybe her girlfriend was.

After all she knows him pretty well, knows that he answers the phone at all hours of the day and night and what kind of phone it is, knows the inside of the shelter and who works there.