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		<title>By: hoosier daddy</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/12/libertarian-party-a-message-to-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-81442</link>
		<dc:creator>hoosier daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Obama’s reign will be a huge disappointment for his many devout followers. By the end of his term, he will be almost universally despised.&quot;

And it&#039;s your job as Libertaraians to make sure that this will happen by stirring up the political forums, as you&#039;ve always done.

Please tell us all why you folks can&#039;t come up with a viable candidate? Is it because your party, all ten of you, is so disorganized that you can&#039;t find another you can agree with more than 20% of the time. 
Republican Lite - I must agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obama’s reign will be a huge disappointment for his many devout followers. By the end of his term, he will be almost universally despised.&#8221;</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s your job as Libertaraians to make sure that this will happen by stirring up the political forums, as you&#8217;ve always done.</p>
<p>Please tell us all why you folks can&#8217;t come up with a viable candidate? Is it because your party, all ten of you, is so disorganized that you can&#8217;t find another you can agree with more than 20% of the time.<br />
Republican Lite &#8211; I must agree.</p>
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		<title>By: langa</title>
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		<dc:creator>langa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s reign will be a huge disappointment for his many devout followers.  By the end of his term, he will be almost universally despised.

However, 50 years from now, both he and Bush will be worshipped as &quot;great men&quot; by the statist historians, like Truman and LBJ are now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s reign will be a huge disappointment for his many devout followers.  By the end of his term, he will be almost universally despised.</p>
<p>However, 50 years from now, both he and Bush will be worshipped as &#8220;great men&#8221; by the statist historians, like Truman and LBJ are now.</p>
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		<title>By: rdupuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>rdupuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.s. even though it is not Obama&#039;s fault in the sense that he was only in the Senate for 2 years...

the fact is Obama will preside over a horrible economy.  I think the market has a lot further to drop...retirement savings wiped out, etc.

But as Franklin Roosevelt, whose policies probably did nothing but extend the misery of the great depression for a decade, was neverthless remembered as a &#039;good president&#039;...thats a tough call, whether he presides over a country that shrinks its economy, expands its debts, loses its influence in the world...but nevertheless overcomes the bad facts to be remembered as a kind of compassionate president...thats a whole &#039;nother ball of wax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. even though it is not Obama&#8217;s fault in the sense that he was only in the Senate for 2 years&#8230;</p>
<p>the fact is Obama will preside over a horrible economy.  I think the market has a lot further to drop&#8230;retirement savings wiped out, etc.</p>
<p>But as Franklin Roosevelt, whose policies probably did nothing but extend the misery of the great depression for a decade, was neverthless remembered as a &#8216;good president&#8217;&#8230;thats a tough call, whether he presides over a country that shrinks its economy, expands its debts, loses its influence in the world&#8230;but nevertheless overcomes the bad facts to be remembered as a kind of compassionate president&#8230;thats a whole &#8216;nother ball of wax.</p>
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		<title>By: rdupuy</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/12/libertarian-party-a-message-to-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-27180</link>
		<dc:creator>rdupuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that Bush was one of the worst presidents we&#039;ve had, but presidents, in general, are trending worse.

It&#039;s yet to be seen whether Obama will be worse than Bush, very likely he will be worse.

I agree with G.E. McCain would almost certianly be worse than both Obama and Bush.

McCain was not intelligent, like Bush, he was average in intelligence.  But McCain, on top of that was a hothead.   On top of that, he didn&#039;t believe in anything particular... why he was one of the most dangerous presidents we would have ever had.

Obama, is cool in demeaner.   Thats good, its better than being a hot head.  Obama is smart, also good.

However we do not have a president that has our historical concept of civil liberties or the role of government.  There is zero chance he will move the country in that direction.

He likes Green technology.   Well the economy will develop products as it has already been doing, that meet market needs.  He will likely invest vast sums of money at the direction of beauracrats, that will invitably be invested in the wrong place...that is the governments track record of dalliance into private enterprise...to base it not on market demand, but on decisions of beauracrats whose political alliegances and constistutent needs will overrule market demands.

Still all that will be a side show, a phenomenal waste of money...but the market will still implement Green technology, because its something that makes market sense, and Obama will be free to take credit for it.

The main thing I hope for Obama, is that he doesn&#039;t get us involved in Somalia or other foreign wars...but who knows.  Bush was mr. &#039;no nation building&#039; during the campaign...we&#039;ll see what happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Bush was one of the worst presidents we&#8217;ve had, but presidents, in general, are trending worse.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s yet to be seen whether Obama will be worse than Bush, very likely he will be worse.</p>
<p>I agree with G.E. McCain would almost certianly be worse than both Obama and Bush.</p>
<p>McCain was not intelligent, like Bush, he was average in intelligence.  But McCain, on top of that was a hothead.   On top of that, he didn&#8217;t believe in anything particular&#8230; why he was one of the most dangerous presidents we would have ever had.</p>
<p>Obama, is cool in demeaner.   Thats good, its better than being a hot head.  Obama is smart, also good.</p>
<p>However we do not have a president that has our historical concept of civil liberties or the role of government.  There is zero chance he will move the country in that direction.</p>
<p>He likes Green technology.   Well the economy will develop products as it has already been doing, that meet market needs.  He will likely invest vast sums of money at the direction of beauracrats, that will invitably be invested in the wrong place&#8230;that is the governments track record of dalliance into private enterprise&#8230;to base it not on market demand, but on decisions of beauracrats whose political alliegances and constistutent needs will overrule market demands.</p>
<p>Still all that will be a side show, a phenomenal waste of money&#8230;but the market will still implement Green technology, because its something that makes market sense, and Obama will be free to take credit for it.</p>
<p>The main thing I hope for Obama, is that he doesn&#8217;t get us involved in Somalia or other foreign wars&#8230;but who knows.  Bush was mr. &#8216;no nation building&#8217; during the campaign&#8230;we&#8217;ll see what happens.</p>
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		<title>By: hogarth</title>
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		<dc:creator>hogarth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What he must do is avoid moving troops from one theater to the other instead of simply bringing the troops home.

It is time for Obama and Democrats to follow through with earlier promises&lt;/i&gt;

Err. That *was* his earlier promise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What he must do is avoid moving troops from one theater to the other instead of simply bringing the troops home.</p>
<p>It is time for Obama and Democrats to follow through with earlier promises</i></p>
<p>Err. That *was* his earlier promise.</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To expand on my statement above: Obama will be worse than Bush, but NOT as bad as McCain would have been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To expand on my statement above: Obama will be worse than Bush, but NOT as bad as McCain would have been.</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama will be worse than Bush and YOU will agree, Ross. That&#039;s my prediction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama will be worse than Bush and YOU will agree, Ross. That&#8217;s my prediction.</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ross - &quot;Republican lite&quot;? You&#039;re not reading the Republican press, apparently. Imperialist organs like Investor&#039;s Business Daily, the Weekly Standard, etc., are all pleased with Obama&#039;s cabinet selections and are generally supportive of the Israel-first neocon of the left... That is what they REALLY are anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross &#8211; &#8220;Republican lite&#8221;? You&#8217;re not reading the Republican press, apparently. Imperialist organs like Investor&#8217;s Business Daily, the Weekly Standard, etc., are all pleased with Obama&#8217;s cabinet selections and are generally supportive of the Israel-first neocon of the left&#8230; That is what they REALLY are anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Levin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TheOriginalAndy - that&#039;s ridiculous.  You&#039;re saying that anyone who you judge to be a &quot;big government politician&quot; is just as bad as Bush?

Regardless, the LP could act as a force to push Obama in the right direction rather than just being divisive and glorifying themselves for no reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TheOriginalAndy &#8211; that&#8217;s ridiculous.  You&#8217;re saying that anyone who you judge to be a &#8220;big government politician&#8221; is just as bad as Bush?</p>
<p>Regardless, the LP could act as a force to push Obama in the right direction rather than just being divisive and glorifying themselves for no reason.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie cannoli</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulie cannoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not if the government collapses completely. I don&#039;t know how close the camel&#039;s back is to holding that last straw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not if the government collapses completely. I don&#8217;t know how close the camel&#8217;s back is to holding that last straw.</p>
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		<title>By: VirtualGalt</title>
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		<dc:creator>VirtualGalt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone really doubt that federal spending as %GDP will be higher 4 years from now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone really doubt that federal spending as %GDP will be higher 4 years from now?</p>
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		<title>By: TheOriginalAndy</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheOriginalAndy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ross Levin // Dec 1, 2008 at 5:03 pm 

They could focus on the fact that there is a chance he might reduce the power of the presidency or restore some civil rights.&quot;

I&#039;ll believe this when it happens.


&quot;Thereâ€™s also the fact that he called for a 16 month withdrawal from Iraq, which is an improvement over Bush.&quot;

Yes,  and when he was running for President,  George W. Bush claimed that he was a &quot;strict constructionist&quot; of the Constitution and that he did not favor any nation building.  

Obama,  like any politician,  can say anything,  but this often times has little connection to what 
they actually do.
 

&quot;Overall, thatâ€™s the bottom line - heâ€™s an improvement over Bush.&quot;

I see no evidence that he is an improvement over Bush.  Obama seems like another big government politician to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ross Levin // Dec 1, 2008 at 5:03 pm </p>
<p>They could focus on the fact that there is a chance he might reduce the power of the presidency or restore some civil rights.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll believe this when it happens.</p>
<p>&#8220;Thereâ€™s also the fact that he called for a 16 month withdrawal from Iraq, which is an improvement over Bush.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes,  and when he was running for President,  George W. Bush claimed that he was a &#8220;strict constructionist&#8221; of the Constitution and that he did not favor any nation building.  </p>
<p>Obama,  like any politician,  can say anything,  but this often times has little connection to what<br />
they actually do.</p>
<p>&#8220;Overall, thatâ€™s the bottom line &#8211; heâ€™s an improvement over Bush.&#8221;</p>
<p>I see no evidence that he is an improvement over Bush.  Obama seems like another big government politician to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Levin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They could focus on the fact that there is a chance he might reduce the power of the presidency or restore some civil rights.  There&#039;s also the fact that he called for a 16 month withdrawal from Iraq, which is an improvement over Bush.  Overall, that&#039;s the bottom line - he&#039;s an improvement over Bush.

There&#039;s no reason why they have to be so divisive, even if they are calling Obama out on not being as &quot;pure&quot; as his supporters often believe he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They could focus on the fact that there is a chance he might reduce the power of the presidency or restore some civil rights.  There&#8217;s also the fact that he called for a 16 month withdrawal from Iraq, which is an improvement over Bush.  Overall, that&#8217;s the bottom line &#8211; he&#8217;s an improvement over Bush.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no reason why they have to be so divisive, even if they are calling Obama out on not being as &#8220;pure&#8221; as his supporters often believe he is.</p>
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		<title>By: TheOriginalAndy</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheOriginalAndy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ross Levin // Dec 1, 2008 at 4:46 pm 

The national LP continues to show its stupidity by acting like Republican lite and being nothing but negative about Obamaâ€™s election.&quot;

Why should anyone who is any kind of libertarian be positive about Obama&#039;s election?  I see no reason to celebrate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ross Levin // Dec 1, 2008 at 4:46 pm </p>
<p>The national LP continues to show its stupidity by acting like Republican lite and being nothing but negative about Obamaâ€™s election.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why should anyone who is any kind of libertarian be positive about Obama&#8217;s election?  I see no reason to celebrate.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Levin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The national LP continues to show its stupidity by acting like Republican lite and being nothing but negative about Obama&#039;s election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The national LP continues to show its stupidity by acting like Republican lite and being nothing but negative about Obama&#8217;s election.</p>
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