Comments on: Ann Garrison: ‘Where else will the LGBT community, or the anti-war and environmental communities, have to turn in 2012?’ http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/12/ann-garrison-where-else-will-the-lgbt-community-or-the-anti-war-and-environmental-communities-have-to-turn-in-2012/ Covering America's third parties and independent candidates since May 2008 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 06:20:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dear .......... Thinkers http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/12/ann-garrison-where-else-will-the-lgbt-community-or-the-anti-war-and-environmental-communities-have-to-turn-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-172945 Dear .......... Thinkers Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:36:54 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=5839#comment-172945 think Victor /Victoria [Rudolph] should email donlake@ymail.com or voice mail 619.420.0209 for an ear full of Verdant defaults! think Victor /Victoria [Rudolph]
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]]> By: Victoria Rudolph http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/12/ann-garrison-where-else-will-the-lgbt-community-or-the-anti-war-and-environmental-communities-have-to-turn-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-172918 Victoria Rudolph Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:55:12 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=5839#comment-172918 I'm a lesbian living in Alabama, and I have decided to vote Green in the next Presidential election. The LGBT community has the power in the next election to send a message to the Democrats and force the inclusion of the Green Party in the Presidential debates. Why do nothing when we can do something substantial? If the Green Party jumped from 1% to 10%, people nwould be nmore likely to listen to them, and they would have a national forum. Topics that would be avoided by corporate whore A and corporate whore B would suddenly be part of the national dialogue. So next time I'm voting Green Party, and I hope that my LGBT brothers and sisters will choose to join me and stop wasting their votes. I’m a lesbian living in Alabama, and I have decided to vote Green in the next Presidential election. The LGBT community has the power in the next election to send a message to the Democrats and force the inclusion of the Green Party in the Presidential debates.

Why do nothing when we can do something substantial? If the Green Party jumped from 1% to 10%, people nwould be nmore likely to listen to them, and they would have a national forum. Topics that would be avoided by corporate whore A and corporate whore B would suddenly be part of the national dialogue.

So next time I’m voting Green Party, and I hope that my LGBT brothers and sisters will choose to join me and stop wasting their votes.

]]> By: Ann Garrison http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/12/ann-garrison-where-else-will-the-lgbt-community-or-the-anti-war-and-environmental-communities-have-to-turn-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-34828 Ann Garrison Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:09:53 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=5839#comment-34828 Thanks for posting part of my Colored Opinions piece. Here's a a You Tube animation I made to go with a KPFA News segment in which Anthony Fest interviewed me about Reverend Rick Warren, LGBT intolerance, and HIV/AIDS in Africa: http://coloredopinions.blogspot.com/2009/01/barack-obama-rev-rick-warren-kpfa-radio.html Thanks for posting part of my Colored Opinions piece. Here’s a a You Tube animation I made to go with a KPFA News segment in which Anthony Fest interviewed me about Reverend Rick Warren, LGBT intolerance, and HIV/AIDS in Africa:

http://coloredopinions.blogspot.com/2009/01/barack-obama-rev-rick-warren-kpfa-radio.html

]]> By: Green Ferret http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/12/ann-garrison-where-else-will-the-lgbt-community-or-the-anti-war-and-environmental-communities-have-to-turn-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-33328 Green Ferret Thu, 01 Jan 2009 10:36:56 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=5839#comment-33328 My guess is that Obama will deliver what he promised. Gays will be equal, but not quite as equal as the rest of us. The occupations in the Middle East will continue, but the wars will end because our soldiers will be renamed "trainers". The US will create 5 million new green jobs, while also pouring money into magical "clean coal" and nuclear energy, which is poisonous both from a biological and an economic standpoint. Not to mention offshore drilling. You know, those wind farms are real eyesores, but nothing improves the landscape and the atmosphere like a smattering of oil wells. My guess is that Obama will deliver what he promised.
Gays will be equal, but not quite as equal as the rest of us.
The occupations in the Middle East will continue, but the wars will end because our soldiers will be renamed “trainers”.
The US will create 5 million new green jobs, while also pouring money into magical “clean coal” and nuclear energy, which is poisonous both from a biological and an economic standpoint. Not to mention offshore drilling. You know, those wind farms are real eyesores, but nothing improves the landscape and the atmosphere like a smattering of oil wells.

]]> By: paulie cannoli http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/12/ann-garrison-where-else-will-the-lgbt-community-or-the-anti-war-and-environmental-communities-have-to-turn-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-33268 paulie cannoli Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:28:55 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=5839#comment-33268 CT, Don't paint a bear into a corner unless you are ready to wrestle a pissed off bear. Also, I think environmentalists and peace activists won't be too happy with Obama. CT,

Don’t paint a bear into a corner unless you are ready to wrestle a pissed off bear.

Also, I think environmentalists and peace activists won’t be too happy with Obama.

]]> By: Catholic Trotskyist http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/12/ann-garrison-where-else-will-the-lgbt-community-or-the-anti-war-and-environmental-communities-have-to-turn-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-33237 Catholic Trotskyist Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:20:11 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=5839#comment-33237 You have nowhere to go, so get over it. when the Catholic Trotskyist New World Order arrives, as it may or may not in Obama's first term, this will be good for the antiwar and environmental movements, but not for GLBT issues. You have nowhere to go, so get over it. when the Catholic Trotskyist New World Order arrives, as it may or may not in Obama’s first term, this will be good for the antiwar and environmental movements, but not for GLBT issues.

]]> By: Steven Druckenmiller http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/12/ann-garrison-where-else-will-the-lgbt-community-or-the-anti-war-and-environmental-communities-have-to-turn-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-33229 Steven Druckenmiller Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:00:24 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=5839#comment-33229 <I>It’s true — many say “well McCain would have locked you up, and Palin would have you shot”. I think they might have tried to force me back in the closet.</I> Yeah, no "they" would not have. If you want to know why LGBT money flows to the Dems, look at the hyperbole you're using that scares LGBTers from going anywhere else. You're a "useful idiot" for the Democratic Party, much in the same way that Republicans scare conservatives every single election. "ooogity boogity! Watch out for McCain the Secret Gay-Hater and Obama the Closet-Commie!" It’s true — many say “well McCain would have locked you up, and Palin would have you shot”. I think they might have tried to force me back in the closet.

Yeah, no “they” would not have. If you want to know why LGBT money flows to the Dems, look at the hyperbole you’re using that scares LGBTers from going anywhere else. You’re a “useful idiot” for the Democratic Party, much in the same way that Republicans scare conservatives every single election. “ooogity boogity! Watch out for McCain the Secret Gay-Hater and Obama the Closet-Commie!”

]]> By: VirtualGalt http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/12/ann-garrison-where-else-will-the-lgbt-community-or-the-anti-war-and-environmental-communities-have-to-turn-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-33220 VirtualGalt Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:26:02 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=5839#comment-33220 Well Obama's on record in a bunch of places as saying he opposes gay marriage... but then uses a lot of weasel words on what exactly he does favor. Lots could happen between now and 2012, even good things. I'm willing to wait and see. But speaking as a gay libertarian, I am not hopeful that Obama's presidency will represent an advance in liberty, either for the LGBT community or in general. It's true -- many say "well McCain would have locked you up, and Palin would have you shot". I think they might have tried to force me back in the closet. Lots of big LGBT money flows to the Democrats. What if anything are they getting for their money? Well Obama’s on record in a bunch of places as saying he opposes gay marriage… but then uses a lot of weasel words on what exactly he does favor.

Lots could happen between now and 2012, even good things. I’m willing to wait and see.

But speaking as a gay libertarian, I am not hopeful that Obama’s presidency will represent an advance in liberty, either for the LGBT community or in general.

It’s true — many say “well McCain would have locked you up, and Palin would have you shot”. I think they might have tried to force me back in the closet.

Lots of big LGBT money flows to the Democrats. What if anything are they getting for their money?

]]> By: Ross Levin http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/12/ann-garrison-where-else-will-the-lgbt-community-or-the-anti-war-and-environmental-communities-have-to-turn-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-33216 Ross Levin Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:50:42 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=5839#comment-33216 No. There are some decent points, but I think it's one thing to condemn Obama for his choice and another to say he's unacceptable for 2012. A lot could happen between now and then. No. There are some decent points, but I think it’s one thing to condemn Obama for his choice and another to say he’s unacceptable for 2012. A lot could happen between now and then.

]]> By: paulie cannoli http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/12/ann-garrison-where-else-will-the-lgbt-community-or-the-anti-war-and-environmental-communities-have-to-turn-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-33214 paulie cannoli Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:47:26 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=5839#comment-33214 So far the signs are not good, judging by his cabinet choices, and even symbolic indicators like Warrent at the invocation. Did you read the rest of the article at the original blog? So far the signs are not good, judging by his cabinet choices, and even symbolic indicators like Warrent at the invocation. Did you read the rest of the article at the original blog?

]]> By: Ross Levin http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/12/ann-garrison-where-else-will-the-lgbt-community-or-the-anti-war-and-environmental-communities-have-to-turn-in-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-33213 Ross Levin Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:44:42 +0000 http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/?p=5839#comment-33213 First they should give Obama a chance to see what his actual policies are before 2012 is here. First they should give Obama a chance to see what his actual policies are before 2012 is here.

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