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		<title>By: JimDavidson</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/12/angela-keaton-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-29670</link>
		<dc:creator>JimDavidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@37 And the horse you rode in on, Drunkenmiller.</description>
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		<title>By: Steven Druckenmiller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Druckenmiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vindex, just ignore Davidson (I call him &quot;The Troll&quot;)  The Troll has little interest in constructive dialogue and is more interested in casting down lightning bolts from his Libertarian Mt. Olympus.

IOW, he needs to dismount his tall equidae.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vindex, just ignore Davidson (I call him &#8220;The Troll&#8221;)  The Troll has little interest in constructive dialogue and is more interested in casting down lightning bolts from his Libertarian Mt. Olympus.</p>
<p>IOW, he needs to dismount his tall equidae.</p>
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		<title>By: JimDavidson</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/12/angela-keaton-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-29221</link>
		<dc:creator>JimDavidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@32 Very wise words, Paulie.  Which is one of the many reasons that the counselor who represents himself has a fool for a client.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@32 Very wise words, Paulie.  Which is one of the many reasons that the counselor who represents himself has a fool for a client.</p>
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		<title>By: JimDavidson</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/12/angela-keaton-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-29220</link>
		<dc:creator>JimDavidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@26 &quot;Iâ€™m a Republican neocon who isnâ€™t a Libertarian&quot;

Got it.   Should I quote you on that, or were you expressing uncertainty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@26 &#8220;Iâ€™m a Republican neocon who isnâ€™t a Libertarian&#8221;</p>
<p>Got it.   Should I quote you on that, or were you expressing uncertainty?</p>
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		<title>By: JimDavidson</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimDavidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@24 Got one of those when they first came out in the early 1970s.  Insidious devices.  Give a five year old a label maker and everything needs a verbose label.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@24 Got one of those when they first came out in the early 1970s.  Insidious devices.  Give a five year old a label maker and everything needs a verbose label.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Fincher</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/12/angela-keaton-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-29218</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Fincher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To start civil proceedings against an organization, you need to have standing, a cause of action.&quot;

Who the fuck else has standing, but me?  If this is nto standing, I don&#039;t know what is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To start civil proceedings against an organization, you need to have standing, a cause of action.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who the fuck else has standing, but me?  If this is nto standing, I don&#8217;t know what is.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie cannoli</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/12/angela-keaton-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-29217</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie cannoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note to all potential civil litigants: many attorneys have previously advised me that discussing pending legal action on internet boards like this one is not in the best interest of the client.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note to all potential civil litigants: many attorneys have previously advised me that discussing pending legal action on internet boards like this one is not in the best interest of the client.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Fincher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Fincher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is Rachel Hawkridge speaking out on the blogs, yet refused to speak to me about a very timely and serious subject matter that may have, had it been resolved, saved the LP from dropping 5 statesâ€™ ballot access?

Something very fishy and suspicious is going on here and I sure hope my attorney out in Massachusetts can get to the bottom of it when he commences litigation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is Rachel Hawkridge speaking out on the blogs, yet refused to speak to me about a very timely and serious subject matter that may have, had it been resolved, saved the LP from dropping 5 statesâ€™ ballot access?</p>
<p>Something very fishy and suspicious is going on here and I sure hope my attorney out in Massachusetts can get to the bottom of it when he commences litigation.</p>
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		<title>By: mdh</title>
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		<dc:creator>mdh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you about to do?  

To start civil proceedings against an organization, you need to have standing, a cause of action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you about to do?  </p>
<p>To start civil proceedings against an organization, you need to have standing, a cause of action.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Fincher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Fincher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this is a good START, but not nearly enough.  I&#039;m pretty thoroughly disgusted with those who run this party on whole, after that report that came back from Andy on the LNC meeting.  If gross misconduct can&#039;t get disciplined in any way, and criminal threats can be bandied about in the name of the national party with no repercussions, then that leaves only two choices.

I have been sitting back and hoping this would get resolved on its own, but it&#039;s apparent that it won&#039;t, so going full speed ahead on an all-out legal war with the LP is, sadly and reluctantly, what I&#039;m left with (because letting the bad guys win isn&#039;t my forte).

Bill Redpath wouldn&#039;t even talk to Andy in any substantive manner at the LNC meeting.

I hate to do what I&#039;m about to do, but....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this is a good START, but not nearly enough.  I&#8217;m pretty thoroughly disgusted with those who run this party on whole, after that report that came back from Andy on the LNC meeting.  If gross misconduct can&#8217;t get disciplined in any way, and criminal threats can be bandied about in the name of the national party with no repercussions, then that leaves only two choices.</p>
<p>I have been sitting back and hoping this would get resolved on its own, but it&#8217;s apparent that it won&#8217;t, so going full speed ahead on an all-out legal war with the LP is, sadly and reluctantly, what I&#8217;m left with (because letting the bad guys win isn&#8217;t my forte).</p>
<p>Bill Redpath wouldn&#8217;t even talk to Andy in any substantive manner at the LNC meeting.</p>
<p>I hate to do what I&#8217;m about to do, but&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: FreeMarketeer</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/12/angela-keaton-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-29147</link>
		<dc:creator>FreeMarketeer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Heaven forbid I attack the childish antics of the so called â€œintelligentsiaâ€ of the LP. I suppose itâ€™s politically motivated though, and not out of embarrassment for the party or the movement? Iâ€™m not sure whatâ€™s keeping me from becoming an actual member of the partyâ€¦those like Keaton, or the cult of personality that surrounds them.&quot;

And you think you speak for everyone in the liberty movement?

Yeah, right, and I&#039;m Ghenghis Khan reincarnated.


Yours in Liberty,


Todd Andrew Barnett</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Heaven forbid I attack the childish antics of the so called â€œintelligentsiaâ€ of the LP. I suppose itâ€™s politically motivated though, and not out of embarrassment for the party or the movement? Iâ€™m not sure whatâ€™s keeping me from becoming an actual member of the partyâ€¦those like Keaton, or the cult of personality that surrounds them.&#8221;</p>
<p>And you think you speak for everyone in the liberty movement?</p>
<p>Yeah, right, and I&#8217;m Ghenghis Khan reincarnated.</p>
<p>Yours in Liberty,</p>
<p>Todd Andrew Barnett</p>
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		<title>By: paulie cannoli</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/12/angela-keaton-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-29133</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie cannoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vindex 

FYI Jim is BTP, not LP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vindex </p>
<p>FYI Jim is BTP, not LP.</p>
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		<title>By: Vindex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vindex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Jim...

I&#039;ve posted on here less than five times, mostly irrespective of politics, and now I&#039;m a Republican neocon who isn&#039;t a Libertarian? 

Heaven forbid I attack the childish antics of the so called &quot;intelligentsia&quot; of the LP.  I suppose it&#039;s politically motivated though, and not out of embarrassment for the party or the movement?  I&#039;m not sure what&#039;s keeping me from becoming an actual member of the party...those like Keaton, or the cult of personality that surrounds them.  

I didn&#039;t know dissent was indicative of political persuasion, especially when it was personally motivated.  Thanks for the FYI, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Jim&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve posted on here less than five times, mostly irrespective of politics, and now I&#8217;m a Republican neocon who isn&#8217;t a Libertarian? </p>
<p>Heaven forbid I attack the childish antics of the so called &#8220;intelligentsia&#8221; of the LP.  I suppose it&#8217;s politically motivated though, and not out of embarrassment for the party or the movement?  I&#8217;m not sure what&#8217;s keeping me from becoming an actual member of the party&#8230;those like Keaton, or the cult of personality that surrounds them.  </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know dissent was indicative of political persuasion, especially when it was personally motivated.  Thanks for the FYI, though.</p>
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		<title>By: mdh</title>
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		<dc:creator>mdh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do tend to agree with Druckenmiller that Angela should consider seeking immediate medical attention if the blood vomiting thing was not hyperbolic in nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do tend to agree with Druckenmiller that Angela should consider seeking immediate medical attention if the blood vomiting thing was not hyperbolic in nature.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Theodore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Theodore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers, Grand Chancellor Keaton! 

&quot;The greatest gift you can give me is to accept that I have done all I can do to save what remains of the Libertarian Party, and that you will continue our struggle.&quot; 

How&#039;s about a label maker? :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers, Grand Chancellor Keaton! </p>
<p>&#8220;The greatest gift you can give me is to accept that I have done all I can do to save what remains of the Libertarian Party, and that you will continue our struggle.&#8221; </p>
<p>How&#8217;s about a label maker? <img src='http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela,
Thank you for all that you have done.  Also happy birthday!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela,<br />
Thank you for all that you have done.  Also happy birthday!</p>
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		<title>By: JimDavidson</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimDavidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela, please have a happy birthday and many very happy returns of the day.

Angela, please ignore these Republican neo-conservative jerks (Vindex, Drunkenmiller, etc.) who aren&#039;t libertarians, don&#039;t have any idea what you&#039;ve invested in your involvement in the LP, and are unaware of your many important contributions to the freedom movement.  Pearls before swine, etc.

Obviously, you have been saying publicly what some few of us have said publicly.  The LP is not representing the party&#039;s own platform.  The LNC is not willing to make decisions in a courageous and meaningful fashion, but refers to committee - and to infinite duress - a matter that should have been voted down promptly.  The LP headquarters staff are despicable Republican scum, and I refer specifically to Kraus and to Davis in this matter.

In short, the LP is not a libertarian party in its actions (specifically, those concerning Angela, those concerning Mary Ruwart in the Spring) and has nominated candidates, including Bob Barr, who are not libertarians.  It is thus a significant embarrassment to the liberty movement.

Moreover, among its many critical shortcomings, the LP fails to conduct its affairs in an open and transparent manner.  When the importance of doing so is brought up, the LNC spends its time on a thought crime prosecution of Angela, for, among other supposed &quot;crimes&quot; breaching the confidentiality of matters that are not properly confidential.  To cap this absurdity, the staff jac wipe, Kraus, demanded that the members of the governing body of the LP, the members of the LNC themselves, sign confidentiality agreements as if they were merely volunteers working for Kraus.  

I believe that the LP has been corrupt in its behavior toward candidates prior to the nominations convention, for some time.  This matter was of substantial concern in 1996 and again in 2000.  It is obviously a concern this past year.  Other corruption has also plagued the LP.  

As a result of these scandals, effective fund raisers such as Angela are not able to stomach raising money for the LP.  The budget is a mess, and the LNC deserves that mess.  People like myself and many others (on the order of 84% of those who have ever been members of the LP) are withholding our dues from national because we don&#039;t want to participate in its garbage.

Others, including many of my friends in the Boston Tea Party, have never joined the LP because it is such an embarrassment to the freedom movement.

I&#039;ve always known that the future is a boot smashing a human face, forever.  I had no idea until this year that the boot would be worn by the representatives of the LP.  

I regret very much that it was Angela&#039;s face that boot was smashing.  I have no doubt that leaving the LP behind means better days ahead, Angela.

Please be happy, be safe, and be well.  May freedom and prosperity accompany you all the days of your life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela, please have a happy birthday and many very happy returns of the day.</p>
<p>Angela, please ignore these Republican neo-conservative jerks (Vindex, Drunkenmiller, etc.) who aren&#8217;t libertarians, don&#8217;t have any idea what you&#8217;ve invested in your involvement in the LP, and are unaware of your many important contributions to the freedom movement.  Pearls before swine, etc.</p>
<p>Obviously, you have been saying publicly what some few of us have said publicly.  The LP is not representing the party&#8217;s own platform.  The LNC is not willing to make decisions in a courageous and meaningful fashion, but refers to committee &#8211; and to infinite duress &#8211; a matter that should have been voted down promptly.  The LP headquarters staff are despicable Republican scum, and I refer specifically to Kraus and to Davis in this matter.</p>
<p>In short, the LP is not a libertarian party in its actions (specifically, those concerning Angela, those concerning Mary Ruwart in the Spring) and has nominated candidates, including Bob Barr, who are not libertarians.  It is thus a significant embarrassment to the liberty movement.</p>
<p>Moreover, among its many critical shortcomings, the LP fails to conduct its affairs in an open and transparent manner.  When the importance of doing so is brought up, the LNC spends its time on a thought crime prosecution of Angela, for, among other supposed &#8220;crimes&#8221; breaching the confidentiality of matters that are not properly confidential.  To cap this absurdity, the staff jac wipe, Kraus, demanded that the members of the governing body of the LP, the members of the LNC themselves, sign confidentiality agreements as if they were merely volunteers working for Kraus.  </p>
<p>I believe that the LP has been corrupt in its behavior toward candidates prior to the nominations convention, for some time.  This matter was of substantial concern in 1996 and again in 2000.  It is obviously a concern this past year.  Other corruption has also plagued the LP.  </p>
<p>As a result of these scandals, effective fund raisers such as Angela are not able to stomach raising money for the LP.  The budget is a mess, and the LNC deserves that mess.  People like myself and many others (on the order of 84% of those who have ever been members of the LP) are withholding our dues from national because we don&#8217;t want to participate in its garbage.</p>
<p>Others, including many of my friends in the Boston Tea Party, have never joined the LP because it is such an embarrassment to the freedom movement.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always known that the future is a boot smashing a human face, forever.  I had no idea until this year that the boot would be worn by the representatives of the LP.  </p>
<p>I regret very much that it was Angela&#8217;s face that boot was smashing.  I have no doubt that leaving the LP behind means better days ahead, Angela.</p>
<p>Please be happy, be safe, and be well.  May freedom and prosperity accompany you all the days of your life.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Druckenmiller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Druckenmiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hematemesis is an &quot;emergency room&quot; situation, here, folks.  Come on now.

If there was bad treatment (which, frankly, I am not inclined to wade into because it looks like a tempest in a teapot), then let that be said.

Vomiting blood?  Please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hematemesis is an &#8220;emergency room&#8221; situation, here, folks.  Come on now.</p>
<p>If there was bad treatment (which, frankly, I am not inclined to wade into because it looks like a tempest in a teapot), then let that be said.</p>
<p>Vomiting blood?  Please.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas M. Sipos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas M. Sipos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela was the conscience of the LP.  She kept the LNC&#039;s feet to the fire.

The LP is a more sordid organization without her.

I hope she still plans to run for president.  She needn&#039;t ramp up her campaign until 2011, so there&#039;s time for her to think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela was the conscience of the LP.  She kept the LNC&#8217;s feet to the fire.</p>
<p>The LP is a more sordid organization without her.</p>
<p>I hope she still plans to run for president.  She needn&#8217;t ramp up her campaign until 2011, so there&#8217;s time for her to think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie cannoli</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulie cannoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that can happen from a combination of stress and other health issues.</description>
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