Comments on: Alternative presidential candidates’ total funds raised

By: Libertarian Joseph

Libertarian Joseph — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:12:30 +0000

I would have rather voted for Obama/Mccain over Baldwin. His supporters annoyed me.

By: Libertarian Joseph

Libertarian Joseph — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:11:54 +0000

Then why do you respect speed laws, Jim?

By: JimDavidson

JimDavidson — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:48:45 +0000

@6 Glad Ruwart never filed. Filing with the FEC is an affront to liberty.

By: JimDavidson

JimDavidson — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:47:32 +0000

It looks like Nader was better at raising money as well as better at gaining votes. Kinda sad. That was true for both of Harry Browne’s run at the presidency, as I recall.

I wonder, though, about dollars per vote, or votes per dollar. That would be an interesting metric. Just roughly, it looks like Nader spent about twice or more for every vote he got compared to Barr.

By: Trent Hill

Trent Hill — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:25:56 +0000

rdupuy,

I think you’re posting on the wrong thread for those sort of assertions. Despite raising 600,000 less dollars than Peroutka ‘04, Baldwin outscored the CP record by about 20,000 votes (and that was with missing two big states for the CP, California is worth 20k or so, PA about 10k).
He outpolled Peroutka by 50-60k votes.

Id say the Paul endorsement was worth quite a bit. Had the CP been on the ballot in PA and CA—two plasces it had been on the ballot every year til now–it would’ve polled at least 230,000 votes.

By: rdupuy

rdupuy — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 22:51:23 +0000

well it doesn’t suprise me about Gravel, he had some enthusiastic support during his run for the Democratic nomination.

I’ve said it on TPW during the campaign, Chuck Baldwin was a weak candidate for the CP. Which was controversial considering the Chuck trolls hanging out there all season.

Secondly I said before, on posts all over the internet, as I was basically trying to drive down Ron Paul’s popularity level…but I posted far and wide that his support was worthless.

It was worthless in terms of votes, worthless in terms of financial support.

I remember it was hot and heavy, all the people saying Bob Barr had made a strategic mistake in dissing Ron Paul…and I believed he had lost nothing.

The estimates were that he just gave up 500,000 votes and untold money…and I said, he gave up nothing. nothing. nothing.

OK, I’m tooting my own horn, but anyway….who cares, this is the time to gloat.

Chuck Baldwin did not raise any significant funds, did not do that great on vote totals, and frankly, thats not the story, the story is just how much Ron Pauls endorsement was worth…nothing.

By: Libertarian Joseph

Libertarian Joseph — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:18:43 +0000

Obama sucked up all of the socialist money. Sorry, Gloria & Brian

By: Trent Hill

Trent Hill — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:12:35 +0000

Then again, Phillies contributed more than that.

By: Trent Hill

Trent Hill — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:08:50 +0000

Oh—and although Imperato may not have had the millions he claimed…he did self-finance almost $80,000

By: Trent Hill

Trent Hill — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:07:56 +0000

Mike Gravel raised almost half-a-million. That surprises me.

By: Trent Hill

Trent Hill — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:56:29 +0000

My thoughts:

Baldwin raised the lowest of a CP campaign, EVER, I believe.

Keyes’ numbers include his GOP campaign, which wasnt all that short. It started prior to Iowa, and didn’t end until May 20-something.

By: paulie cannoli

paulie cannoli — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:14:59 +0000

Perhaps. But there are still a bunch of past years campaigns in there.

By: Peter Orvetti

Peter Orvetti — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:12:50 +0000

I think that’s another Jimmy Carter. I have a vague memory of someone named “Jimmy Carter” running this year.

By: paulie cannoli

paulie cannoli — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:31:48 +0000

There are some really odd graveyard ones in there. Jimmy Carter still has his committee going, apparently.

Ruwart apparently never filed.

By: paulie cannoli

paulie cannoli — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:29:20 +0000

KEYES, ALAN L
Receipts $481,891
Disbursements $484,304
Cash $12,005
Debt $488,018

However, clicking on his name:

http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/cancomsrs/?_08+P60003076

Looking at the reports, I don’t see anything like 488k debt.