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	<title>Comments on: Steve Kubby: Wake up and smell the ganja</title>
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		<title>By: paulie cannoli</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/11/steve-kubby-wake-up-and-smell-the-ganja/comment-page-1/#comment-22995</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie cannoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;

I donâ€™t think we should try to make the LP â€œliberal friendlyâ€ or â€œconservative friendlyâ€ per se.

We should be LIBERTARIAN! We should stick to our libertarian principles and sell them to everyone.&lt;/i&gt;

I agree. But there are different ways to sell it and different people to whom it can be sold. To the extent it has been sold at all, it has been in a conservative-leaning light to conservative-leaning audiences. 

We need some balance. Also, the greatest opportunities were always on the left. 


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We should go to all the one issue outreach opportunities possible to present that issue as a lead issue, but we should not try to downplay the whole libertarian package. We must stand tall and support the entire Libertarian message.
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I agree. 

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However, we should be rational, reasonable, respectful, sensible, adult, calm, cool, and have a sense of humor.
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I try.</description>
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<p>I donâ€™t think we should try to make the LP â€œliberal friendlyâ€ or â€œconservative friendlyâ€ per se.</p>
<p>We should be LIBERTARIAN! We should stick to our libertarian principles and sell them to everyone.</i></p>
<p>I agree. But there are different ways to sell it and different people to whom it can be sold. To the extent it has been sold at all, it has been in a conservative-leaning light to conservative-leaning audiences. </p>
<p>We need some balance. Also, the greatest opportunities were always on the left. </p>
<p><i></p>
<p>We should go to all the one issue outreach opportunities possible to present that issue as a lead issue, but we should not try to downplay the whole libertarian package. We must stand tall and support the entire Libertarian message.<br />
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<p>I agree. </p>
<p><i><br />
However, we should be rational, reasonable, respectful, sensible, adult, calm, cool, and have a sense of humor.<br />
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<p>I try.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie cannoli</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/11/steve-kubby-wake-up-and-smell-the-ganja/comment-page-1/#comment-22994</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie cannoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the contrary, we should emphasize it more. Seattle Hempfest alone is over 50,000 people every year, and there are similar events in every city. High Times is a top 40 national magazine. MPP&#039;s budget is several times the national LP&#039;s. 

This issue involves everything from fuel/energy independence, to medicine, to prison/police state, and more. These are all huge issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the contrary, we should emphasize it more. Seattle Hempfest alone is over 50,000 people every year, and there are similar events in every city. High Times is a top 40 national magazine. MPP&#8217;s budget is several times the national LP&#8217;s. </p>
<p>This issue involves everything from fuel/energy independence, to medicine, to prison/police state, and more. These are all huge issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Coming Back to the LP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coming Back to the LP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think we should try to make the LP &quot;liberal friendly&quot; or &quot;conservative friendly&quot; per se.

We should be LIBERTARIAN!  We should stick to our libertarian principles and sell them to everyone.

We should go to all the one issue outreach opportunities possible to present that issue as a lead issue, but we should not try to downplay the whole libertarian package.  We must stand tall and support the entire Libertarian message.

However, we should be rational, reasonable, respectful, sensible, adult, calm, cool, and have a sense of humor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think we should try to make the LP &#8220;liberal friendly&#8221; or &#8220;conservative friendly&#8221; per se.</p>
<p>We should be LIBERTARIAN!  We should stick to our libertarian principles and sell them to everyone.</p>
<p>We should go to all the one issue outreach opportunities possible to present that issue as a lead issue, but we should not try to downplay the whole libertarian package.  We must stand tall and support the entire Libertarian message.</p>
<p>However, we should be rational, reasonable, respectful, sensible, adult, calm, cool, and have a sense of humor.</p>
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		<title>By: VinceWylde</title>
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		<dc:creator>VinceWylde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think the issue of this over-shadowing everything we try to do that make us votable also makes us seem a bit, I don&#039;t know, 23-ear-old Coffee Shop employee-ish.

Pot simply is not our biggest issue, but people love to bring it up whenever they find out I&#039;m Libertarian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think the issue of this over-shadowing everything we try to do that make us votable also makes us seem a bit, I don&#8217;t know, 23-ear-old Coffee Shop employee-ish.</p>
<p>Pot simply is not our biggest issue, but people love to bring it up whenever they find out I&#8217;m Libertarian.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie cannoli</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/11/steve-kubby-wake-up-and-smell-the-ganja/comment-page-1/#comment-22991</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie cannoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the biggest opportunities are on issues where liberals and libertarians tend to agree. 

What outreach has been done has largely been aimed at conservatives, and the low hanging fruit has been picked. 

Also, conservatives are less temperamentally and demographically likely to change parties. 

The vast majority of young people who voted, voted  for Obama - 2-1 among under 30s and first time voters. McCain won among those over 65. Most people who change their party do so before age 30. 

Obama dominated the Latino vote. Among citizens over 30, immigrants are the least likely to have a long-standing tie to a US political party. 

The very word conservative means someone disinclined to change. That extends to their political party, even among those that are nearly pure libertarians. 

Luckily for us, some of these  issues where liberals and libertarians agree - war, (im)migration, gay rights, marijuana - are the very ones that bring tens and hundreds of thousands and even millions of people out to the streets. 

The opportunity is huge. All we have to do is sell the libertarian message in liberal-friendly terms, and get out there. It would help if the party did not undercut that with the tone of the message it presents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the biggest opportunities are on issues where liberals and libertarians tend to agree. </p>
<p>What outreach has been done has largely been aimed at conservatives, and the low hanging fruit has been picked. </p>
<p>Also, conservatives are less temperamentally and demographically likely to change parties. </p>
<p>The vast majority of young people who voted, voted  for Obama &#8211; 2-1 among under 30s and first time voters. McCain won among those over 65. Most people who change their party do so before age 30. </p>
<p>Obama dominated the Latino vote. Among citizens over 30, immigrants are the least likely to have a long-standing tie to a US political party. </p>
<p>The very word conservative means someone disinclined to change. That extends to their political party, even among those that are nearly pure libertarians. </p>
<p>Luckily for us, some of these  issues where liberals and libertarians agree &#8211; war, (im)migration, gay rights, marijuana &#8211; are the very ones that bring tens and hundreds of thousands and even millions of people out to the streets. </p>
<p>The opportunity is huge. All we have to do is sell the libertarian message in liberal-friendly terms, and get out there. It would help if the party did not undercut that with the tone of the message it presents.</p>
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		<title>By: Coming Back to the LP</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/11/steve-kubby-wake-up-and-smell-the-ganja/comment-page-1/#comment-22989</link>
		<dc:creator>Coming Back to the LP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;they always have their share of Republican Party come hell or high water types, theocrats, and your run of the mill â€œfuck all politics - stock up on ammoâ€ guys.&quot;

Agreed.

But, we have to get out in the world and find the already Libertarian 15% of the country and get them to join us in building a real Party.  They will become our activists, supporters, donors, candidates, voters and leaders if we just get out in the world and recruit them.

It&#039;s easier to find and recruit those who already agree with us than to convert hardcore Ds and Rs.  

The majority of the public is not very committed to any ideology and we can get elected if we have enough money to advertise on TV where it counts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;they always have their share of Republican Party come hell or high water types, theocrats, and your run of the mill â€œfuck all politics &#8211; stock up on ammoâ€ guys.&#8221;</p>
<p>Agreed.</p>
<p>But, we have to get out in the world and find the already Libertarian 15% of the country and get them to join us in building a real Party.  They will become our activists, supporters, donors, candidates, voters and leaders if we just get out in the world and recruit them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easier to find and recruit those who already agree with us than to convert hardcore Ds and Rs.  </p>
<p>The majority of the public is not very committed to any ideology and we can get elected if we have enough money to advertise on TV where it counts.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie cannoli</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/11/steve-kubby-wake-up-and-smell-the-ganja/comment-page-1/#comment-22986</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie cannoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gun shows are good. There&#039;s a healthy libertarian contingent. 

I found too many Palin kool-aiders at this year&#039;s, though. 

And of course, they always have their share of Republican Party come hell or high water types, theocrats, and your run of the mill &quot;fuck all politics - stock up on ammo&quot; guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gun shows are good. There&#8217;s a healthy libertarian contingent. </p>
<p>I found too many Palin kool-aiders at this year&#8217;s, though. </p>
<p>And of course, they always have their share of Republican Party come hell or high water types, theocrats, and your run of the mill &#8220;fuck all politics &#8211; stock up on ammo&#8221; guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Coming Back to the LP</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/11/steve-kubby-wake-up-and-smell-the-ganja/comment-page-1/#comment-22984</link>
		<dc:creator>Coming Back to the LP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The LP should  be everywhere the people are.

Get out to the Hemp rallies, gun shows, anti-tax, pro gold standard, anti-Federal Reserve, anti-war and anti-WAR rallies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The LP should  be everywhere the people are.</p>
<p>Get out to the Hemp rallies, gun shows, anti-tax, pro gold standard, anti-Federal Reserve, anti-war and anti-WAR rallies!</p>
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		<title>By: paulie cannoli</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/11/steve-kubby-wake-up-and-smell-the-ganja/comment-page-1/#comment-22979</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie cannoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some relevant discussion in the comments here

http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/11/less-antman-on-restoring-the-libertarian-brand-name/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some relevant discussion in the comments here</p>
<p><a href="http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/11/less-antman-on-restoring-the-libertarian-brand-name/" rel="nofollow">http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/11/less-antman-on-restoring-the-libertarian-brand-name/</a></p>
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		<title>By: paulie cannoli</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/11/steve-kubby-wake-up-and-smell-the-ganja/comment-page-1/#comment-22911</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie cannoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pride, peace rallies, and migrant marches should be good as well. 9/11 truth events draw crowds that might be persuadable. Earth day is an opportunity for creative outreach. If you do tax day protests, think of something along these lines: 

http://pauliecannoli.wordpress.com/2007/01/23/taxes-of-evil-2-2/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pride, peace rallies, and migrant marches should be good as well. 9/11 truth events draw crowds that might be persuadable. Earth day is an opportunity for creative outreach. If you do tax day protests, think of something along these lines: </p>
<p><a href="http://pauliecannoli.wordpress.com/2007/01/23/taxes-of-evil-2-2/" rel="nofollow">http://pauliecannoli.wordpress.com/2007/01/23/taxes-of-evil-2-2/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Theodore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Theodore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Kubby. If there were any hempfests around these parts, I&#039;d set up a shady little LP booth. I think I can do that without the consent of the party. Maybe I&#039;d order gobs of Wes&#039;s bumper stickers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Kubby. If there were any hempfests around these parts, I&#8217;d set up a shady little LP booth. I think I can do that without the consent of the party. Maybe I&#8217;d order gobs of Wes&#8217;s bumper stickers.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie cannoli</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/11/steve-kubby-wake-up-and-smell-the-ganja/comment-page-1/#comment-22909</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie cannoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of them. 

Here are some others as well: 

http://pauliecannoli.wordpress.com/2007/01/31/state-of-the-empire-2/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of them. </p>
<p>Here are some others as well: </p>
<p><a href="http://pauliecannoli.wordpress.com/2007/01/31/state-of-the-empire-2/" rel="nofollow">http://pauliecannoli.wordpress.com/2007/01/31/state-of-the-empire-2/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Melty Rox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melty Rox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sex n Drugs&#039;re the LP&#039;s best issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sex n Drugs&#8217;re the LP&#8217;s best issues.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie cannoli</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/11/steve-kubby-wake-up-and-smell-the-ganja/comment-page-1/#comment-22893</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie cannoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 23:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same here, and I don&#039;t even smoke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same here, and I don&#8217;t even smoke.</p>
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		<title>By: LaineRBT</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaineRBT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 23:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great issue to use in an attempt to gather new comers to a party or cause. One of the major reasons I got involved with supporting third parties and independents is because of the ganja issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great issue to use in an attempt to gather new comers to a party or cause. One of the major reasons I got involved with supporting third parties and independents is because of the ganja issue.</p>
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