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More from Alan Keyes on his Barack Obama citizenship lawsuit

From Essence Magazine, by way of The Western Standard Shotgun blog:

ESSENCE.COM: What exactly do you want to accomplish with this lawsuit?

ALAN KEYES: I had read a little bit about the issues that were being raised about Obama back during the primary season. At first I thought, like a lot of people, “There’s nothing to this. It’s just a matter of fact. You can establish what the facts are.” The Constitution specifies that a citizen who is naturalized, rather than born into the status of being an American citizen, cannot be president. That was done in the beginning because people feared a foreign takeover of the United States government by the process of immigration. Staid as it is, we again are in a situation where a lot of foreign entities have influence or control over U.S. policy.

The reason an issue has been raised about Obama is because of the simple question, which can be answered with a birth certificate that shows he was born in the United States, or born to parents who had the capacity to transmit U.S. citizenship. When the question was asked, he danced around it. If the most important office of the federal government can be occupied by someone who is not qualified under the United States Constitution, that destroys the authority of the Constitution. I think it’s something that needs to be dealt with in a clear, straightforward way. Eventually the case will get to the Supreme Court, establish the facts, and clear the air. It’s really all very simple. […]

ESSENCE.COM: To a lot of people, your lawsuit looks like a case of sour grapes because you lost. Your response?

KEYES: I think politics is irrelevant to this, actually. I don’t see how it is showing fondness for Barack Obama to let him enter into office with a question that could be raised. He should not have to operate under that burden. I think the officials need to clear the air for his sake. From my point of view, it is a bad idea to have a president of the United States enter office with a cloud hanging over his head, where every time he tries to do something, he would end up frittering away time because of that objection. So let’s get it over with. Let’s resolve it and move forward with a clear an undisturbed mandate for the new president.

49 Comments

  1. “He [Edmond Cecil Rhodes, 1855 – 1902] supported the [Adolf Hitler] ideas of lebensraum and mercantilism, which were popular at the time, even if they were expressed more politely by others.[23] ”

    “Rhodes included American students as eligible for the Rhodes scholarships. ”

    “he wanted to breed an American elite of philosopher-kings who would have the United States rejoin the British Empire. ”

    “Rhodes also respected the Germans and admired the Kaiser, he allowed German students to be included in the Rhodes scholarships. ”

    “He believed that eventually Great Britain, the USA and Germany together would dominate the world and ensure peace …………”

    wickepedia references ………….

  2. “Nightingale for governor CA constitution party ………..”

    [a] a serious effort is afoot or has already succeded in getting Nightmare Nightingale [my words] off of the November California American Independent Party ballot.

    [b] With the possible 1952 ‘one off’ attempt to get rouge Army General Douglas McAurthor on the state ballot, there is no California Constitution Party.

    [c] Chelene Ward Nightingale, Cody Quirk, Jim King, Donald J. Grundmann, Larry Braizeale are practised liars. (see [b] )

    [d] ‘birther’ (s) see #46, not that I personally will lose any sleep over same.

    [e] California American Independent Party, with Keyes with some griping and minor desents.

    [f] National (Keyes) America’s Independent Party, solidly with Ambassodore Keyes.

    [g] hope you enjoyed slumming here at INDEPENDENT Political Reports

    [h] Der Arnold is in the same range of approval as 2003 &@$#%# DEMOCRAT Gray Davis —— your take?

    [i] My Yokohoma Momma is asking for ‘Opeachment’ as the turd term of ‘W’ ——— your take?

    [j] Your plans on visiting IPR in the future?

  3. Democrat in Arizona July 27, 2010

    Constitution Party seems to be behind many of the “birther” accusations. Many of their party members have stated that “unless we see Obama’s birth certificate , we will not follow anything he says” A Nightingale for governor CA constitution party spoke of this at a rally here in Arizona, as did Ton Tancredo, many others in that party. Is the AIP with keyes also with the CP?

  4. 40 John Jay // Aug 13, 2009:

    ………… the re-establishment of British rule ……..

    Lake: these guys know what they are talkin’ ’bout, ‘Willis’!

    [a] Bennedict Arnold

    [b] Africa’s Edmond Rhodes

    [c] Winston Churchill

    [d] segments of Free Massons

  5. If you’re gonna get pickie with My Yokohoma Momma, then do not look away when that horrible horrible fighter pilot John Insane McCain and his Panama Canal FOREIGN territory birth.

    Notice I have not raised the banner of citizens ship on either bastard! But the McCain case is MUCH WEAKER than, [when is some one gonna Opeach the kreep?] Obama!

    …….. just sayin’

  6. JW July 27, 2010

    You people are ridiculous. As a US citizen who has PERSONALLY delivered babies and obtained birth certificates for them in these Our United States, I can assure you that a “Certificate of Live Birth” not only IS a birth certificate but is the only damn piece of paper you will ever be issued by our government in response to pushing out your little bundle of joy. I don’t know what document you people want, but whatever it is it does not exist in the real world. Not that facts make a difference to you clowns. Sigh…….

  7. Don Grundmann August 14, 2009

    The challenge to Obama to produce his birth certificate is appropriate but as noted previously the only, and real, reason for Keyes to file this lawsuit is to obtain publicity as part of his task to put lipstick on his pig. See TheCorruptionOfAlanKeyes.blogspot.com for a understanding of why he is performing public relations stunts such this.

    Don Grundmann Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party

  8. paulie August 14, 2009

    The “Kenyan birth certificate generator” is hilarious! LOL@birthers

  9. John Jay August 13, 2009

    Barry is a natural-born British subject. Agitators for the re-establishment of British rule over this country like the above commenter are anti-American scum and will find themselves against the wall when the revolution comes.

  10. Smoky Mountain Carpenter August 13, 2009

    Thanks so much folks. After reading these blogs, I see great opportunity for selling tin hats to protect you folks against the gamma rays that the Martians are broadcasting to take over your minds.

    But then that would suggest that there are actually brain cells operating here.

    This issue has been absolutely settled (see Factcheck.org). Quite apart from the mountain of evidence that Obama was born in the US, does anyone believe that these Satanic (“socialistic!”) forces are so brilliant that they chose Barack Obama at his birth in 1961 and cleverly inserted announcements of his birth in the two Honolulu papers? Maybe he was really impregnated by Mephistopheles. Oops, I withdraw that less it be posted on a number of loony websites that Obama is the spawn of the devil. But then I forget: that’s already on these websites.

    But of course you birthers can believe anything. I know why Alan Keyes is a wingnut on this issue–and I think I know the reason a lot of people are equally willing to become lunatics on the issue. It is tough, having a N—er in the White House, isn’t it?

    As an independent who is fed up with the Republican Party, I should be pleased to see the crazies taking over, but I’m not. We need a responsible conservative party in this country, not a party of deranged lunatics.

    You people need to get a life–and a brain.

  11. david December 12, 2008

    The Supreme Court will never hear any case involving his citizenship.
    If he is found not to be a natural born and denied the presidency than massive riots will occur in our cities.The court will always find a legal excuse not to hear any such case.
    The real problem is the Supreme Court.
    I propose the following scenario.
    Someone from vital statistics leaks information
    that Obama has no birth certificate on record and is either charged with a felony or fired.Cae then goes to the Supreme Court.The court then denies the case because the firing was based on policy and
    not on the actual document.
    The sad part would be that the case would deny someone from defending the constitution.

  12. Ms. Know December 5, 2008

    I think it’s safe to say that this guy is a citizen. These are issues the elitist illuminati should have dealt with sooner.

  13. astonkim December 5, 2008

    http://www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/article/29871.html?OBAMA+ADMITS+HE+WAS+BRITISH+CITIZEN+AT+BIRTH+-+AS+SUCH+OBAMA+IS+NOT+A+NATURAL+BORN+CITIZEN+OF+US

    Leo Donofrio’s lawsuit is more clean and direct but Alan Kayes may have the “standing” needed to make it happen…
    OBAMA ADMITS HE WAS A BRITISH CITIZEN “AT BIRTH” – AS SUCH, OBAMA IS NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES AND NEITHER WERE THE FRAMERS OF THE CONSTITUTION, HENCE THE GRANDFATHER CLA– USE IN ARTICLE 2. SECTION 1, CLA– USE 5 OF THE US CONSTITUTION

  14. craiginct2003 December 4, 2008

    Bob,
    Nice writing about a lot of crap to make you seem like you know something. You just missed two important things; 1) Obama’s Mother and Himself were both citizen of Indonesia, 2) If he cannot prove he was born in the U.S. his mother does not meet citizenship laws at the time of his birth having been a citizen for only 10 years (“…If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.”). Which means she would have needed to have been 21, she was 18.

  15. Bob Weber December 1, 2008

    Back to reality: It’s amusing that the wingnuts put forth the preposterous theory of Obama being born in Kenya, when for their purposes it would suffice to allege that, for example, Obama was born in Canada after Ann Dunham gave birth after sightseeing at Niagara Falls, and went into labor after crossing to the Canadian side for the better view, or even that she gave birth while on an airplane flight from Buffalo, N.Y. to Duluth, MN while it was over Canadian territory (look at a map), but while it has no more evidence than the Kenyan birth story (none), and is millions of time more plausible, it doesn’t have the sizzle, the pizazz, of claiming that Obama was born in Kenya.

    It’s also pretty apparent that the law in question is intended to apply to parents who establish residency outside the United States: for example, Winston Churchill’s mother was American, but she had established residency in Great Britain, and it would be quite a stretch to argue that Churchill was eligible for the presidency of the U.S.

    Also, the law in question seems to me to apply also to cases where a parent was born in the U.S. but had never established a residency in the U.S. at all. (A person born shipboard in a U.S. port is technically eligible for U.S. citizenship.)

    Finally, the fact that so many believe the preposterous story of “Obama’s Kenyan Birth” shows how easy it is to persuade the masses of absurd fictions. Iraq WMD’s, Hussein-9/11, anyone?

  16. Bob Weber December 1, 2008

    daveweigel: (Dave Weigel of Reason Magazine?) Your objections to the wingnut Obama birth narrative are quite valid. Don’t forget that in 1961, a trip to Kenya was so expensive that it would have required years of scrimping and saving for the average well-paid American worker. And yet we are asked to believe that a penniless grad student (Obama, Sr. came to the U.S. on scholarship) and his pregnant teen bride traveled to Kenya (doubtless to take advantage of the superb health care in Kenya 1961), bore their mulatto son, returned to the United States, and left not one shred of evidence! No visa application, no record of leaving or re-entering the U.S. or Kenya, no hospital records in Kenya, no record of entry into the U.S. of infant Barack Obama, Jr. But there is an alternate explanation:

    Barack Obama, Sr. and Ann Dunham made contact with a Soviet submarine (it might have been a fishing trawler) and were transported to Kenya and smuggled ashore in order for the infant Obama Jr. to be born in Kenya. He had to be born in Kenya because the Harmonic Convergence of Evil, 1961, (note that ”1961” is the same up or down) happened in that country, populated as it is by dark-skinned natives, some of whom are Moslems. Obama Jr.’s birth took place in the center of a pentagram, with Dr. Josef Mengele as attending physician, while at the corners of the pentagram five blonde, blue-eyed virgins were sacrificed to
    Satan as a Red Mass was celebrated. In attendance at the birth were Nikita Khrushchev, Mao Tse-Tung, Martin Bormann, Klaus Barbie, Charles Manson, Pope John XXIII, Billy Graham, Norman Vincent Peale, and the entire Mormon Tabernacle Choir. At the moment of birth, Dr. Mengele held high the infant Obama and proclaimed, “We give this child to thee, O Great and Powerful Satan”.

    There is not one shred of evidence for this scenario. But isn’t the complete lack of evidence proof of how deep the conspiracy goes?

  17. Mike November 30, 2008

    The Mainstream Media will look totally (fake) surprised if the Justices decide to hear arguments after the Dec. 5 conference and that’s when you’ll see them try to play this down and blame the Republicans for sour grapes. If that is so then I want the Mainstream Media needs to provide documentation that Phillip Berg left the Democratic Party and registered a Republican. If the Republicans were leading this charge the Obama Mainstream Media would have been all over them like they were with “Joe The Plumber” I feel that Obama’s lawyers will try to stall this out until he’s sworn in . I hope for the sake of our constitution that a final decision is made for or against Obama before the Electorate casts their votes on December 15. The question still at large is, If there is undisputed evidence provided by Democrat Phillip Berg that Obama is not “Natural Born” will the US Supreme Court protect the Constitution or will they go with the flow and turn a blind eye? My feeling is that they will do the right thing. They have lifetime appointments and answer only to the law of the land.

  18. langa November 28, 2008

    “Is it commonly understood that the 5 years past language was intended to discriminate on the basis of age? I find that hard to believe because women had kids at much younger ages back then.”

    Not only that, but the interpretation that Zan suggests could result in a situation where the same woman (over a period of a couple of years) gives birth to 2 children, in the same location, and one is citizen but the other isn’t. That would seem to be a rather bizarre interpretation.

    Of course, all this is really just academic, since the chance of any court declaring Obama ineligible is far less than that of the proverbial snowball.

  19. paulie cannoli Post author | November 28, 2008

    Alan Keyes must really want Joe Biden to be President.

    I doubt it. I think Alan Keyes really wants attention. I don’t mind giving him some, since he has now stepped outside the “two” party box.

    But, I would be surprised if Keyes does not understand that the lawsuit has no chance of winning, regardless of its merits.

  20. Joe Buchman November 28, 2008

    I’m not sure about Alan Keyes, but I would just like someone to take the Constitution seriously. To follow the law here.

    That’s what the Oath of President is ALL about.

    Regardless of where he was born, or if he gave up his US citizenship when he was adopted by his step dad matters.

    But what matters far more is a clear pattern of non-disclosure, spin and what looks like it could be outright lies and criminal behavior worthy of investigation, hopefully by SCOTUS, or perhaps a few principle-driven electors in the college that was, I believe, designed to be the final safeguard for these kinds of issues.

  21. Catholic Trotskyist November 28, 2008

    Alan Keyes must really want Joe Biden to be President.

  22. RedPhillips November 28, 2008

    You’re fast Zan. 21 and 22 came as I was typing. Is it commonly understood that the 5 years past language was intended to discriminate on the basis of age? I find that hard to believe because women had kids at much younger ages back then.

  23. RedPhillips November 28, 2008

    Thanks Zan. I posted the above before your answer. So the issue with Obama could be his mother’s age. She hadn’t been a citizen 5 years past the age of 14?

    But then again, was the Code intended to exclude based on age? It seems more likely that that language was intended for a parent who had him or herself been naturalized?

    I wasn’t suggesting that the answer was within the Constitution itself. As a conservative I believe in original intent. So the essential question is what did the Founders intend by the language natural born? (It is likely unknowable for certain, and would require some reasonable inferences.) Founders’ intent trumps Code if the Code is contrary to intent, but in this case I doubt that it is.

  24. Zan Ozimek November 28, 2008

    Again, I have heard contrary opinions on whether Obama would have automatic US citizenship based on his mother’s citizenship even if he were born over seas.

    If he were born after 1994 he would.

    If he were born between the years 1958 and 1994 he would not, because ObamaMama had not been a citizen for 5 years past the age of 14 (she was 18 so had only been a citizen for 4 years past the age of 14) as required by the Immigration & Naturalization Act of 1958.

    He was born in 1961.

  25. Zan Ozimek November 28, 2008

    The above, of course, excepts the 14th Amendment requirement that territorial birth always be a qualifier for citizenship, regardless of what other pathways are created by Congress.

  26. RedPhillips November 28, 2008

    Again, I have heard contrary opinions on whether Obama would have automatic US citizenship based on his mother’s citizenship even if he were born over seas. This seems like a very straightforward question. That there are competing opinions seem likely driven by partisanship rather than some uncertainty in the law.

  27. Zan Ozimek November 28, 2008

    OH CHRIST! There is so much misinformation about what “natural born” means. If you’re looking in the constitution for the definition of it, KEEP LOOKING! You need to look in the U.S. Code for the definition.

    1 – The constitution requires a President be “natural born”, simply meaning that he is a citizen at the point he leaves the vagina.

    2 – It is left to Congress to decide what the circumstances are that would cause a person to be a citizen upon leaving the vagina. Congress could require:
    a – the vagina is located in the national territory,
    b – one of the persons parents is a citizen,
    c – the person has three arms and is born in Zanzibar (yes, if Congress wanted to, they could bestow “natural birth” citizenship to three armed babies born in Zanzbiar)
    The point is, a natural born citizen had citizenship at birth and was not naturalized.

    John McCain: AT THE TIME of McCain’s birth, Congress defined natural born citizenship as being born in the US OR being born to at least one citizen parent.

    Barack Obama: AT THE TIME of Obama’s birth, Congress defined natural born citizenship as being born in the US OR being born to at least one citizen parent who had been a citizen for a minimum of 5 years past the age of 14 at the time of birth.

  28. RedPhillips November 28, 2008

    “Anyone who believes that pregnant, 18-year old college student Ann Dunham took a transatlantic flight in her third trimester – in 1961 – gave birth, smuggled back her kid, and managed to keep this secret from everyone is a drooling moron.”

    This is the best point against it. As I said, how she gets back to HI from Kenya 4 days after giving birth borders on the implausible.

    But I don’t think anyone has alleged that there was an attempt at the time to keep it secret. In fact, people are alleging a lot of people knew about it. The attempts at secrecy if they happened happened after the fact.

    Faucetman, I appreciate your certainty, but it really is not entirely clear what the Founding Fathers meant by “natural born” when they wrote the Constitution. It is almost certain that it was meant to prevent new and recent immigrants who had become citizens from becoming President. (Was there even a formal process of naturalization in 1787 equivalent to what we have today?) Thus, IMO, the best way to put it in modern language is they are not naturalized. Thus “natural born.” Not that they were born on US soil.

    So the kid of illegal immigrants who happens to be born here (a misreading of the Constitution BTW) could be President but the kid of two US citizen parents who is born abroad is not? One of my sons was born abroad courtesy of Uncle Sam, is he not eligible to be President?

    I could be convinced otherwise, but it will have to be based on evidence regarding what the Founders intended, not on foot stomping.

    Is there any evidence regarding what the Founders intended?

  29. Joe Buchman November 28, 2008

    >>Anyone who believes that pregnant, 18-year old college student Ann Dunham took a transatlantic flight in her third trimester – in 1961 – gave birth, smuggled back her kid, and managed to keep this secret from everyone is a drooling moron. Yes, that includes Mr. Keyes,<<

    I gather that also includes her mother, who claims to have been present for the birth — in Kenya.

    And I’ll happily not consider myself a drooling moron as it seems clear this was hardly kept secret!

    The point is, regardless of what you think the truth is here, the failure to produce the long form birth certificate is setting up lots of lawsuits come Spring and Summer, or so it seems to me.

    Joe

  30. paulie cannoli Post author | November 28, 2008

    The Emoluments Clause of Article I, section 6 provides, “No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States, which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been encreased during such time.”
    http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/11/24/hillary-ineligible-for-cabinet-post/

    Nice find. Can you issue something about this as a state or county party, or candidate for something, to give us an excuse to cover it here?

  31. Joe Buchman November 28, 2008

    PS

    BTW: It would also appear that the appointment of Senator Clinton as Secretary of State would be an unconstitutional act as she was a member of the US Senate at the time the salary of the Secretary of State was increased.

    The Emoluments Clause of Article I, section 6 provides, “No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States, which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been encreased during such time.”
    http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/11/24/hillary-ineligible-for-cabinet-post/

  32. daveweigel November 28, 2008

    He could very simply give that authorization, and shut everyone up.

    Why not just let thousands of his political opponents beat their heads against the wall, and waste time that they could spend actually investigating Obama and his staff?

    Anyone who believes that pregnant, 18-year old college student Ann Dunham took a transatlantic flight in her third trimester – in 1961 – gave birth, smuggled back her kid, and managed to keep this secret from everyone is a drooling moron. Yes, that includes Mr. Keyes, who has grown noticeably duller and nuttier since his 2004 race against Obama.

  33. Joe Buchman November 28, 2008

    Keyes is not, IMO, a nut on this.

    Aside from indications that the Certificate of Live Birth posted by the campaign has been altered with Photoshop (lots of Google hits on this), it’s not just the problems with the “Certification of Live Birth” (which is NOT a birth certificate — may be good enough though to get a US Passport, but it’s not good enough to get into the Little League), a real birth certificate has information about time, place, witnesses, etc, and is issued at the time, not up to a year later — there are lots of issues with Obama’s other records — unlike every other past presidential candidate, none have been released from Harvard or Columbia, no medical records — but the most problematic may be this:

    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/11/exclusive_did_n.html

    regarding his Selective Service registration which appears to have been falsified.

    Apparently the SCOUTS is meeting on December 5th regarding at least one lawsuit filed about these issues, I don’t think this is going away. I doubt they’ll take any action, so what seems most likely are lots of lawsuits early in the administration challenging the Constitutionality of every executive order or law signed by this president.

    Why the Obama campaign/administration would prefer that over simply obtaining and then releasing the Hawaii long form birth certificate is a question worth considering, and I, for one, am glad Alan Keyes is willing to support it as one of the few people who might have standing with a court on this issue. I wish Baldwin and Barr would join in.

    Joe

  34. faucetman November 28, 2008

    The Senate has no power to convey Natural Born status to ANYONE

  35. G.E. November 28, 2008

    He sounds like a gay Martian.

    That’s where his daughter gets it!

    I wonder if Keyes wishes he would have pulled a Bob Barr on her, in-utero?

  36. faucetman November 28, 2008

    Natural Born Citizen is a status that only matters if you run for president. Article II section 1. It essentially means that you must be BORN in the U.S. by 2 citizen parents. McCain by his birth in Panama makes him ineligible PERIOD. He is a citizen through his parents, but being in the canal zone or that his parents were military, born on a military base (which he was not) does not give him NATURAL BORN status.

    As to Obama, We do not know WHERE he was born. The certificate online is a FORGERY. Why would anyone even have a forged birth document? The status of his mother at the time of his birth would not grant him any kind of citizenship if he was indeed born abroad. Certainly not NATURAL BORN which again has more meaning than just BORN in U.S. He can not claim NATURAL BORN status because his father was a British subject passing dual citizenship and an allegiance to a FOREIGN NATION to Barrack even if Obama was born in U.S.

    WE NEED PROOF. We can’t just let anyone on the ballot because we THINK they qualify. This points out that there isn’t even a FORM you have to fill out. How about..

    1. Were you born in the U.S.?
    1a. Provide verifiable proof ( birth certificate, doctors name, hospital, names of persons in attendance

    2. Were BOTH of your parents citizens of the U.S. at the time of your birth?
    2a Provide verifiable proof (birth certificates, naturalization documents)

    I think this would do it. I wouldn’t object to a few more. I mean it’s only for the job of president

  37. Mike Theodore November 28, 2008

    “Gay Martians might find that offensive.”

    Nah, we thought it as well, for a short time. 😀

  38. paulie cannoli Post author | November 28, 2008

    Has Alan Keyes personally shown me his birth certificate? Why Not?

    Have you asked him to?

    Personally, I believe there is no way Keyes was born on Earth. He sounds like a gay Martian.

    Gay Martians might find that offensive.

  39. johncjackson November 28, 2008

    Has Alan Keyes personally shown me his birth certificate? Why Not? I think I am going to solicit a list of Income Tax opponents to raise money to take out a full page ad about it.

    Personally, I believe there is no way Keyes was born on Earth. He sounds like a gay Martian.

  40. paulie cannoli Post author | November 28, 2008

    “without Obama’s authorization.”

    That is the point paulie. He could very simply give that authorization, and shut everyone up.

    Yes, I know.

  41. RedPhillips November 28, 2008

    “without Obama’s authorization.”

    That is the point paulie. He could very simply give that authorization, and shut everyone up.

    As I said in another thread, I am not inclined to believe most conspiracy theories. But what is being alleged here is not bizarre or totally implausible. The most implausible part is that a new mother could have made it from Kenya on the 4th (date of birth) to HI on the 8th (date on the certificate).

    Such after the fact registrations were allowed in HI at the time.

    A more important question that I have seen answered both ways is does it matter if he was born in Kenya? “Natural born” likely did not mean born in the States. It meant not naturalized, which is why McCain, born in Panama, could run. Would Obama have had natural citizenship based on his mother even if he had been born in Kenya?

    Again, I have seen that answered both ways.

    I’m with Austin. This is starting to seem a little bit weird. Is there a blood type on the birth certificate? I have heard it alleged that he may not want his blood type released because it might prove Obama Sr. was not really his father.

  42. paulie cannoli Post author | November 28, 2008

    The authorities are not allowed to release anything more than they already have without Obama’s authorization.

  43. Austin Cassidy November 28, 2008

    Ya know… Alan Keyes is out there. I don’t agree with him on much. But frankly, this is starting to seem a little bit weird. Why can’t Obama produce a birth certificate?

    Shouldn’t the “mainstream” media have looked into this at least a little bit? Even if just to clear his name?

  44. johncjackson November 28, 2008

    yeah, Obama, Show Your Papers!

    uh, what…

    BTW, being an “Obmaist” is not a requirement for thinking this is pointless and supported by a bunch of nutjobs.

    It’s pretty embarrassing ( for them, me, both) that I get emails from groups that are pursuing this and begging for funds to place ads and all this bullshit.

  45. Jeffy November 28, 2008

    Why does Obama NOT provide a copy of his original birth certificate? I know that Obamaists are going link me to those sites that propose to have his birth certificate. Please don’t insult my intelligence, I know the difference between a “Certification of live Birth” (provided by Obama) and a “Certificate of Live Birth” (with doctor’s signatures, hospital name, etc…). Look at the link to compare what has been provided by Obama and that provide by a true Hawaiian citizen.

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_iKcZ3qcCmyo/SSrfxldwhuI/AAAAAAAALMQ/ga339VEByNs/s1600-h/2BObirth.jpg

    In addition, Obama has spent a whole lot of money (estimates of $800,000) on lawyers and the like to hide something that can be provided for about $12; this is not my kind of economics! I have written letters to all of the Supreme Court Justices and they will be express mailed today. We need to get to the bottom of this and it appears that the SCOTUS are the only people in this Great Nation that have the standing to get it done.

    Supreme Court of United States
    One First Street NE
    Washington DC 20543

    The Supreme Court Justices:

    Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts
    Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito
    Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer
    Supreme Court Justice Ruth Ginsburg
    Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy
    Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia
    Supreme Court Justice David Souter
    Supreme Court Justice John Stevens
    Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas

    Thanks for listening…

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