Comments on: Members propose suggested Libertarian Party platform planks

By: paulie

paulie — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:04:16 +0000

Stupid is as stupid does.

By: Michael H. Wilson

Michael H. Wilson — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:40:26 +0000

Hey “Don’t Be Stupid” how about explaining in some detail exactly what you mean. Don’t criticize someone just to be a critic. Btw the membership numbers have been going in the wrong direction for sometime.

By: The Inquirer

The Inquirer — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:57:03 +0000

@457

Dear Mr. or Ms. Stupid,

What exactly do you have against Susan’s proposals? Can you be more specific?

By: Melty

Melty — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:54:50 +0000

As i said before, cut the vapid verbiage in the first line of 1.3 Personal Relationships. It should read “Sexual orientation should have no . . .”

By: Don't BE Stupid

Don't BE Stupid — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:44:52 +0000

I guarantee you PEOPLE, WE will LOSE A LOT OF LIBERTARIAN VOTERS if some of Susan Hogarth proposal is done!!! While we have people who have finally started to do things to get Libertarian awareness, as well as joining the Libertarian party for something was done somewhat right for a change, and making headway. OTHERWISE WE WOULDN’T HAVE WHAT WE HAVE NOW!!! DON’T BE STUPID, by doing the STUPID THING AND stabatoging the platform when we have come this far.

By: paulie cannoli

paulie cannoli — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:44:20 +0000

Why not? We’re less than 40 comments from beating TPW’s all time record.

By: JimDavidson

JimDavidson — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:43:22 +0000

Why do you want long comment threads, Paulie?

By: paulie cannoli

paulie cannoli — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:28:29 +0000

Email from Brian Holtz, used with permission:

“I haven’t heard back from LNC, but they didn’t reply in the last round either. I haven’t thought of any compelling argument for publishing my application before they vote, but I’ll definitely do so afterwards.”

By: paulie cannoli

paulie cannoli — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:22:58 +0000

I don’t feel like adding anything intelligent at the moment, but I thought I’d throw in a tie breaker for the comment count.

By: Trent Hill

Trent Hill — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:16:59 +0000

“And again,I think weâ€™re using two different meanings of the word â€œvalueâ€.

I value honesty. I value fair dealing. These do not have prices attached to them.”

Then you arent participating in an economic arguement, which is how this started. You’re trying to shift goalposts to make this an arguement about overall morality.

No thanks.

By: hogarth

hogarth — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:56:26 +0000

Steve,

I think you mean ’subscribe’ – I saw you use ‘ascribe’ the same way earlier, and I don’t think it has the meaning you are intending:

http://www.answers.com/ascribe

By: Steven Druckenmiller

Steven Druckenmiller — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:31:05 +0000

Right meaning that we have to be more and more radical until no one can fully ascribe to anything in the platform?

Ho-kay.

By: Coming Back to the LP

Coming Back to the LP — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:27:14 +0000

Yes.

Maybe, someday, we’ll get it right.

By: Steven Druckenmiller

Steven Druckenmiller — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:30:41 +0000

We definitely need to strengthen our platform. It needs to be much more hard hitting and radical.

Oh, *yawn*. Do we have to go through this every year?

By: Coming Back to the LP

Coming Back to the LP — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:20:37 +0000

Since I have very little time, there is no way to enter into all the discussion above.

I just took a brief look at the current LP platform, and it has been drastically shortened and watered down from years ago.

We definitely need to strengthen our platform. It needs to be much more hard hitting and radical.

This is especially true with regard to property rights. We must demand an end to all taxes on property. These are the worst of all taxes. They hurt the economy, causing increased: homelessness, pollution, poverty, resource misallocation, and misdirected infrastructure development.

There is no such thing as “monopoly rents” or any of the other fascist socialist nonsense from the wacko marxists of the Henry George cult.

The Libertarian Platform must call for the complete protection of Private Property rights:

The Libertarian Party calls for the repeal all taxes on property by all levels of government. The property tax is the worst of all taxes. Free people who own their own land, farms, businesse property, apartments, condominiums, houses, homes or any other property must be left free by government to exercise sole dominion over their property. They must be allowed to live tax free and to use their property as they see fit.

Property taxes deny individuals the right to become free, independent and self sufficient. Without property taxes, millions of Americans would be able to live without any income or participation in the cash economy. They are forced by the property tax to have an income and are forced into the hands of the government.

The property tax consititues a â€œtakingâ€ of a portion of a personâ€™s property each year, without compensation. It should therefore be declared unconstitutional under the Constitution’s “takings clause” that requires compensation for the taking of property by the government.

The Property Tax is absolutely the most evil of all taxes. It causes the greatest harm to the rights of the individual. It is the essential first component in the government’s tyrrany of taxation.

No person can every be free so long as property taxes are allowed to exist.