Comments on: McKinney: The economists I follow

By: paulie cannoli

paulie cannoli — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:28:27 +0000

Another good one by Roderick Long

http://praxeology.net/blog/2006/11/24/greensleeves-was-all-my-joy

By: songster7

songster7 — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:14:28 +0000

don’t get me wrong … I’m not voiting for the Greens this time around. I have my candidates, libertarians one and all, regardless of designation (I’ve also learned the hard way not to throw votes at Ds or Rs, no matter how “lesser evil” they might seem!).

But the possibility of a Green or other “leftist” party supporting “voluntary socialism” or similar “consensus-based” society still does exist.

As Daniel Lewis has shown in an excellent analysis of the GP’s statement of principles, there IS a commonality at least in potential between Green goals and libertarian ones; we share the disgust with foreign imperialism, we support the civil liberties of all, and most of us on both sides know how corporatist mercantilism has pissed in the chili of any semblance of free market (our term) or “community control” (theirs in some cases) …

We disagree on economics, mostly on a rhetorical level … and far too many Greens still seem deluded enough to think that a change of emperor somehow matters in fixing what else is wrong.

It’s not an impossible breach to close, IOW

By: Gregg Jocoy

Gregg Jocoy — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:56:56 +0000

Actually, after McKinney left the interview the three who interviewed her had a sort of round-table, and all of them believed she was not pandering, that she had not dodged questions, and thought that she was not hearing their position on health care, but I think she and they simply have different opinions about what should happen vis-a-vis health care.

I did not hear the entire discussion, but the part I report on here comes a few minutes after the group took a break and listened to Congresswoman McKinney grill Rumsfeld before the House of Representatives, and a video the BTM folks had produced more or less explaining why most alternative political folks believe the fix is in with the Demopublicans.

By: G.E.

G.E. — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:33:39 +0000

If McKinney can be trusted to not increase the debt… let her try to collect her taxes!

By: Trent Hill

Trent Hill — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:30:25 +0000

I see.

For the record, I prefer outright taxation to inflationary taxes too.

By: G.E.

G.E. — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:17:01 +0000

And democratic socialism threatens no greater control than the uber-Keynesianism of Bush/McCain/Obama.

Keynesianism isn’t about “control” — it’s specifically about debt creation and inflation. McKinney has signed on AGAINST increasing the national debt; as has Nader.

By: G.E.

G.E. — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:15:38 +0000

I prefer taxation to inflation.

By: Trent Hill

Trent Hill — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:15:14 +0000

By the way: John Stossel’s latest segment on 20/20 was GREAT.
http://thefreeturkey.com/?p=63

By: Trent Hill

Trent Hill — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:14:33 +0000

Uh,why?

You prefer total control by government to SOME control?

By: G.E.

G.E. — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:59:40 +0000

I’d prefer a democratic socialist to a Keynesian.

By: Trent Hill

Trent Hill — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:43:26 +0000

LMAO.

This is hilarious. McKinney was on BTM,so clearly she was pandering to the Ron Paulers, but she throws out the names of David Walker and Ron Paul and all of a sudden she isnt socialist? Has anyone looked at her policies?

By: G.E.

G.E. — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:59:37 +0000

Burn it down!

By: paulie cannoli

paulie cannoli — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:54:12 +0000

Paint the white house Green!

By: G.E.

G.E. — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:51:33 +0000

I’m leaning more and more towards McKinney!

By: songster7

songster7 — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:36:38 +0000

An interesting perspective she has, esp. for someone who IIRC has been branded a socialist by some on this blogsite (and by others actually running for POTUS?). An awareness about the FRS, and a desire to change it; a reliance on Ron Paul about economic issues … sounds far more like a “communalist” (perhaps even a voluntarist one?) than a socialist to me …