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	<title>Comments on: Libertarian Jones running for Montana governor</title>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/libertarian-jones-running-for-montana-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-19201</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the LNC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the LNC.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Jass</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/libertarian-jones-running-for-montana-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-19200</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh Jass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who wouldn&#039;t win, the LNC or the LPMT/BTPMT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who wouldn&#8217;t win, the LNC or the LPMT/BTPMT?</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/libertarian-jones-running-for-montana-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-19199</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They wouldnt win,not even close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They wouldnt win,not even close.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Jass</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/libertarian-jones-running-for-montana-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-19198</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh Jass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On what basis would they have to file suit against a state party freely choosing to disaffliate and reaffiliate with another party? Is that prohibited in the bylaws or something, because quite a few state Constitution parties got away with it a couple years back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On what basis would they have to file suit against a state party freely choosing to disaffliate and reaffiliate with another party? Is that prohibited in the bylaws or something, because quite a few state Constitution parties got away with it a couple years back.</p>
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		<title>By: darolew</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/libertarian-jones-running-for-montana-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-19160</link>
		<dc:creator>darolew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;This is totally off topic, but I find it personally repugnant to see a YES on proposition 8 banner ad at the top of this page. Not sure if itâ€™s a rotating banner or what, but stillâ€¦&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Ad-block FTW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;This is totally off topic, but I find it personally repugnant to see a YES on proposition 8 banner ad at the top of this page. Not sure if itâ€™s a rotating banner or what, but stillâ€¦&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Ad-block FTW.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie cannoli</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/libertarian-jones-running-for-montana-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-19152</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie cannoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they probably would. 

Whether they would win, I don&#039;t know. But I expect they would press a claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they probably would. </p>
<p>Whether they would win, I don&#8217;t know. But I expect they would press a claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Jass</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/libertarian-jones-running-for-montana-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-19141</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh Jass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>paulie,

True, but at least the name wouldn&#039;t be misleading. Could the LP actually file suit against the theoretical LPMT/BTPMT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paulie,</p>
<p>True, but at least the name wouldn&#8217;t be misleading. Could the LP actually file suit against the theoretical LPMT/BTPMT?</p>
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		<title>By: paulie cannoli</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/libertarian-jones-running-for-montana-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-19131</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie cannoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The LP might have a problem with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The LP might have a problem with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Jass</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/libertarian-jones-running-for-montana-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-19119</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh Jass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

Would we necessarily have to call it the Montana Boston Tea Party? If what Viverrid describes is true, then could a small number of active libertarians could simply take over the existing party, disaffiliate, and join the Boston Tea Party, all the while keeping the name &quot;Libertarian Party of Montana&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>Would we necessarily have to call it the Montana Boston Tea Party? If what Viverrid describes is true, then could a small number of active libertarians could simply take over the existing party, disaffiliate, and join the Boston Tea Party, all the while keeping the name &#8220;Libertarian Party of Montana&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/libertarian-jones-running-for-montana-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-19077</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gene,

We dont control what Google Ads pop up--we&#039;re just trying to recoup costs of running the website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gene,</p>
<p>We dont control what Google Ads pop up&#8211;we&#8217;re just trying to recoup costs of running the website.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Levin</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/libertarian-jones-running-for-montana-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-19076</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t control what shows up there.  There are McCain ads (those disgusting &quot;original maverick&quot; ads keep showing up... read this for the real original mavericks:  http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/weekinreview/05schwartz.html?_r=1&amp;scp=2&amp;sq=maverick&amp;st=cse&amp;oref=slogin ), Obama ads, Good Magazine ads, a lot of things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t control what shows up there.  There are McCain ads (those disgusting &#8220;original maverick&#8221; ads keep showing up&#8230; read this for the real original mavericks:  <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/weekinreview/05schwartz.html?_r=1&#038;scp=2&#038;sq=maverick&#038;st=cse&#038;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/weekinreview/05schwartz.html?_r=1&#038;scp=2&#038;sq=maverick&#038;st=cse&#038;oref=slogin</a> ), Obama ads, Good Magazine ads, a lot of things.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Trosper</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/libertarian-jones-running-for-montana-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-19067</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene Trosper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is totally off topic, but I find it personally repugnant to see a YES on proposition 8 banner ad at the top of this page. Not sure if it&#039;s a rotating banner or what, but still...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is totally off topic, but I find it personally repugnant to see a YES on proposition 8 banner ad at the top of this page. Not sure if it&#8217;s a rotating banner or what, but still&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JimDavidson</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimDavidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Hugh, that would be a great idea.  We&#039;d be happy to help organise libertarian activities in Montana.

I&#039;m not really enthusiastic about sales taxes, as the &quot;fair tax&quot; people seem to be.  I agree with getting rid of all the other taxes, though.  Which ought to reduce government a bit.  And then don&#039;t impose the sales tax, and reduce gov&#039;t even more.  Yay.

Many public services in Lithuania, such as charity hospitals, used to be funded by donations.  Why should we expect that all government functions have to be funded by taxes? Maybe donations would cover many of the costs.  Worth a try.

I think a sales tax is very regressive.  It hits people when they are buying necessities.  Alaska seems to get along well with a severance tax on oil and other natural resources.  Montana has a big mining industry, as does Wyoming.  That approach might work well in such states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Hugh, that would be a great idea.  We&#8217;d be happy to help organise libertarian activities in Montana.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not really enthusiastic about sales taxes, as the &#8220;fair tax&#8221; people seem to be.  I agree with getting rid of all the other taxes, though.  Which ought to reduce government a bit.  And then don&#8217;t impose the sales tax, and reduce gov&#8217;t even more.  Yay.</p>
<p>Many public services in Lithuania, such as charity hospitals, used to be funded by donations.  Why should we expect that all government functions have to be funded by taxes? Maybe donations would cover many of the costs.  Worth a try.</p>
<p>I think a sales tax is very regressive.  It hits people when they are buying necessities.  Alaska seems to get along well with a severance tax on oil and other natural resources.  Montana has a big mining industry, as does Wyoming.  That approach might work well in such states.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Jass</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/libertarian-jones-running-for-montana-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-19023</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh Jass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could start a Montana chapter of the Boston Tea Party.</description>
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		<title>By: hogarth</title>
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		<dc:creator>hogarth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Why would you contact someone in the Michigan LP to help out in Montana?&lt;/i&gt;

Probably because I&#039;m an idiot.

:-/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why would you contact someone in the Michigan LP to help out in Montana?</i></p>
<p>Probably because I&#8217;m an idiot.</p>
<p>:-/</p>
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		<title>By: Jason_Gatties</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/libertarian-jones-running-for-montana-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-18966</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason_Gatties</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would you contact someone in the Michigan LP to help out in Montana?</description>
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		<title>By: hogarth</title>
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		<dc:creator>hogarth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I will try to help the situation after this election cycle. I have yet to make contact with the state party and donâ€™t know what their plans are. Hopefully it can be salvaged and I would like to be a part of that if possible. It would be great if the National LP could give some guidance on this. Do you know if they have aided efforts like this in the past?&lt;/i&gt;

Thank you!

Just contact someone in the Michigan LP with your offer to help. Join - or start - a local group. Join the state party structure. 

I would not count on the national party for help in local party-building, though they may be able to help you with contact information (may). They&#039;re really not in much shape to help. Your best bet is to see who is still active there and see what they are planning. Parallel to that, I would seek out a mentor from an active state/locality for advice on party building. Feel free to email me  (hogarth@gmail.com) any questions - I won&#039;t know the answer to all of them, but I will have some idea of who might :)

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I will try to help the situation after this election cycle. I have yet to make contact with the state party and donâ€™t know what their plans are. Hopefully it can be salvaged and I would like to be a part of that if possible. It would be great if the National LP could give some guidance on this. Do you know if they have aided efforts like this in the past?</i></p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>Just contact someone in the Michigan LP with your offer to help. Join &#8211; or start &#8211; a local group. Join the state party structure. </p>
<p>I would not count on the national party for help in local party-building, though they may be able to help you with contact information (may). They&#8217;re really not in much shape to help. Your best bet is to see who is still active there and see what they are planning. Parallel to that, I would seek out a mentor from an active state/locality for advice on party building. Feel free to email me  (hogarth@gmail.com) any questions &#8211; I won&#8217;t know the answer to all of them, but I will have some idea of who might <img src='http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Spence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid I&#039;m not that informed on the subject. My guess is that the National LP has ignored requests like this before in the past, seeing as how it would tie in perfectly to their &quot;decentralized&quot; efforts campaign. (Of course, decentralization usually works from the ground up, not top-down.)

Seeing as how the climate in Montana has been very favorable, especially as of late, I&#039;m sure anything you do to capitalize on this potential will help. 

Me, personally, I wouldn&#039;t waste time on a failed brand, but then you&#039;re in a smaller state and your actions may have more effect, so more power to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;m not that informed on the subject. My guess is that the National LP has ignored requests like this before in the past, seeing as how it would tie in perfectly to their &#8220;decentralized&#8221; efforts campaign. (Of course, decentralization usually works from the ground up, not top-down.)</p>
<p>Seeing as how the climate in Montana has been very favorable, especially as of late, I&#8217;m sure anything you do to capitalize on this potential will help. </p>
<p>Me, personally, I wouldn&#8217;t waste time on a failed brand, but then you&#8217;re in a smaller state and your actions may have more effect, so more power to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Viverrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Viverrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HumbleTravis,

Jones is definitely an odd character. He does, however, manage to get coverage in the local media and appears in debates with the current Governor of Montana and his Republican opponent. He also seems less Smurf-like now as his natural skin tone seems to be coming back. I do not think his tax proposal will resonate here, though. As part of his plan, he advocates introducing a sales tax (as a Libertarian!!!) in a state that currently does not have one. I don&#039;t know what to make of that.

Spence,

I will try to help the situation after this election cycle. I have yet to make contact with the state party and don&#039;t know what their plans are. Hopefully it can be salvaged and I would like to be a part of that if possible. It would be great if the National LP could give some guidance on this. Do you know if they have aided efforts like this in the past?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HumbleTravis,</p>
<p>Jones is definitely an odd character. He does, however, manage to get coverage in the local media and appears in debates with the current Governor of Montana and his Republican opponent. He also seems less Smurf-like now as his natural skin tone seems to be coming back. I do not think his tax proposal will resonate here, though. As part of his plan, he advocates introducing a sales tax (as a Libertarian!!!) in a state that currently does not have one. I don&#8217;t know what to make of that.</p>
<p>Spence,</p>
<p>I will try to help the situation after this election cycle. I have yet to make contact with the state party and don&#8217;t know what their plans are. Hopefully it can be salvaged and I would like to be a part of that if possible. It would be great if the National LP could give some guidance on this. Do you know if they have aided efforts like this in the past?</p>
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		<title>By: HumbleTravis</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/libertarian-jones-running-for-montana-governor/comment-page-1/#comment-18956</link>
		<dc:creator>HumbleTravis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jones is better known for his unusual complexion than his politics.  I&#039;m not saying he shouldn&#039;t run but it gives the media another opportunity to showcase the idea that third parties are human circuses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jones is better known for his unusual complexion than his politics.  I&#8217;m not saying he shouldn&#8217;t run but it gives the media another opportunity to showcase the idea that third parties are human circuses.</p>
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