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	<title>Comments on: Boston Tea Party adopts Campaign for Liberty four point program, elects new officers</title>
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		<title>By: paulie cannoli</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/boston-tea-party-adopts-campaign-for-liberty-four-point-program-elects-new-officers/comment-page-2/#comment-20898</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie cannoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t we all just get along?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t we all just get along?</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Iâ€™m not lifting a finger to prove anything to Trent.&quot;

That&#039;s why I didn&#039;t ask you pumpkin. See, your respect is far too pricey, your &quot;courtesy&quot; far too expensive for me to bother with. Better to leave it on the shelf and let it collect dust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Iâ€™m not lifting a finger to prove anything to Trent.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I didn&#8217;t ask you pumpkin. See, your respect is far too pricey, your &#8220;courtesy&#8221; far too expensive for me to bother with. Better to leave it on the shelf and let it collect dust.</p>
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		<title>By: JimDavidson</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/boston-tea-party-adopts-campaign-for-liberty-four-point-program-elects-new-officers/comment-page-2/#comment-20887</link>
		<dc:creator>JimDavidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but I don&#039;t like Andy.

Marilyn had stunning success in the 1970s when she was still stunning.  

If the LP had nominated Ruwart, the BTP very likely would have endorsed her candidacy rather than running our own.

I&#039;m not lifting a finger to prove anything to Trent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but I don&#8217;t like Andy.</p>
<p>Marilyn had stunning success in the 1970s when she was still stunning.  </p>
<p>If the LP had nominated Ruwart, the BTP very likely would have endorsed her candidacy rather than running our own.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not lifting a finger to prove anything to Trent.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie cannoli</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/boston-tea-party-adopts-campaign-for-liberty-four-point-program-elects-new-officers/comment-page-2/#comment-20844</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie cannoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Interesting blog on this:
http://blogs.news.sky.com/foreignmatters/Post:5eca6e5f-7a1c-4715-9c26-b92a4d9f588d#comment&lt;/i&gt;

Yes. 

One minor quibble: Marilyn Chambers&#039; career did not end in the 70s. She was active in the industry in the 90s, and I think still is now. 

&lt;i&gt;Nominating Bob Barr/Wayne A. Root was the worst idea in the LPâ€™s history. If they wouldâ€™ve nominated Ruwart/Kubby, I think they couldâ€™ve raised more money with-in the libertarian-leaning Ron Paul grassroot movement.&lt;/i&gt;

True.

&lt;i&gt;Paulie is the reason for the voter registrations in Leon County, Florida.&lt;/i&gt;

Andy too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Interesting blog on this:<br />
<a href="http://blogs.news.sky.com/foreignmatters/Post:5eca6e5f-7a1c-4715-9c26-b92a4d9f588d#comment" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.news.sky.com/foreignmatters/Post:5eca6e5f-7a1c-4715-9c26-b92a4d9f588d#comment</a></i></p>
<p>Yes. </p>
<p>One minor quibble: Marilyn Chambers&#8217; career did not end in the 70s. She was active in the industry in the 90s, and I think still is now. </p>
<p><i>Nominating Bob Barr/Wayne A. Root was the worst idea in the LPâ€™s history. If they wouldâ€™ve nominated Ruwart/Kubby, I think they couldâ€™ve raised more money with-in the libertarian-leaning Ron Paul grassroot movement.</i></p>
<p>True.</p>
<p><i>Paulie is the reason for the voter registrations in Leon County, Florida.</i></p>
<p>Andy too.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Weâ€™ll do what we can, and weâ€™ll do it as fast as we can. Just how fast that is may surprise you. Or not.&quot;

10/4. Work hard and prove me wrong--Id love to see it,honestly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Weâ€™ll do what we can, and weâ€™ll do it as fast as we can. Just how fast that is may surprise you. Or not.&#8221;</p>
<p>10/4. Work hard and prove me wrong&#8211;Id love to see it,honestly.</p>
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		<title>By: JimDavidson</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/boston-tea-party-adopts-campaign-for-liberty-four-point-program-elects-new-officers/comment-page-2/#comment-20838</link>
		<dc:creator>JimDavidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paulie is the reason for the voter registrations in Leon County, Florida.

Kombayn is correct.  And with Kombayn&#039;s help, we will work on building up at least in Kombayn&#039;s area.

What is it about cat2303&#039;s URL that makes me not want to click? Oh, yeah, the non-crazy in me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paulie is the reason for the voter registrations in Leon County, Florida.</p>
<p>Kombayn is correct.  And with Kombayn&#8217;s help, we will work on building up at least in Kombayn&#8217;s area.</p>
<p>What is it about cat2303&#8242;s URL that makes me not want to click? Oh, yeah, the non-crazy in me.</p>
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		<title>By: kombayn</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/boston-tea-party-adopts-campaign-for-liberty-four-point-program-elects-new-officers/comment-page-2/#comment-20835</link>
		<dc:creator>kombayn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually have to disagree with Trent on this one. (Who I post with over at ronpaulforums.com) Charles Jay has been on FOX News quite a few times and that&#039;s impressive for such a small party with an online following. I actually like this site a lot and visit everyday.

Thomas Knapp is a very motivated person and should be on the ballot in Louisiana too. They have 4 years to earn more state ballot-access. A lot of things can happen in 4 years, the internet is a new age of communication. Look in the last 5 years of what we&#039;ve gotten... Blogging, MySpace, Facebook and YouTube... 

Which 50 years in history will be looked at as a dawning of a new age in communication. The Boston Tea Party has my support, I want them to get big enough to make the Libertarian Party wise-up to what&#039;s going on.

Nominating Bob Barr/Wayne A. Root was the worst idea in the LP&#039;s history. If they would&#039;ve nominated Ruwart/Kubby, I think they could&#039;ve raised more money with-in the libertarian-leaning Ron Paul grassroot movement.

Overall, I think it does no good to criticize what the Boston Tea Party is doing. But they do need to build up locally, not nationally I think. Win a few offices and still run people for President but try to win some races with the BTP branding and they should start looking into alliances with other State parties looking for a National Party affiliate. It&#039;s the smart thing to do.

Getting Charles Jay on FOX News a few times shows me that the BTP is at least very smart in getting out the name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually have to disagree with Trent on this one. (Who I post with over at ronpaulforums.com) Charles Jay has been on FOX News quite a few times and that&#8217;s impressive for such a small party with an online following. I actually like this site a lot and visit everyday.</p>
<p>Thomas Knapp is a very motivated person and should be on the ballot in Louisiana too. They have 4 years to earn more state ballot-access. A lot of things can happen in 4 years, the internet is a new age of communication. Look in the last 5 years of what we&#8217;ve gotten&#8230; Blogging, MySpace, Facebook and YouTube&#8230; </p>
<p>Which 50 years in history will be looked at as a dawning of a new age in communication. The Boston Tea Party has my support, I want them to get big enough to make the Libertarian Party wise-up to what&#8217;s going on.</p>
<p>Nominating Bob Barr/Wayne A. Root was the worst idea in the LP&#8217;s history. If they would&#8217;ve nominated Ruwart/Kubby, I think they could&#8217;ve raised more money with-in the libertarian-leaning Ron Paul grassroot movement.</p>
<p>Overall, I think it does no good to criticize what the Boston Tea Party is doing. But they do need to build up locally, not nationally I think. Win a few offices and still run people for President but try to win some races with the BTP branding and they should start looking into alliances with other State parties looking for a National Party affiliate. It&#8217;s the smart thing to do.</p>
<p>Getting Charles Jay on FOX News a few times shows me that the BTP is at least very smart in getting out the name.</p>
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		<title>By: cat2303</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/boston-tea-party-adopts-campaign-for-liberty-four-point-program-elects-new-officers/comment-page-1/#comment-20834</link>
		<dc:creator>cat2303</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting blog on this:
http://blogs.news.sky.com/foreignmatters/Post:5eca6e5f-7a1c-4715-9c26-b92a4d9f588d#comment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting blog on this:<br />
<a href="http://blogs.news.sky.com/foreignmatters/Post:5eca6e5f-7a1c-4715-9c26-b92a4d9f588d#comment" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.news.sky.com/foreignmatters/Post:5eca6e5f-7a1c-4715-9c26-b92a4d9f588d#comment</a></p>
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		<title>By: paulie cannoli</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/boston-tea-party-adopts-campaign-for-liberty-four-point-program-elects-new-officers/comment-page-1/#comment-20832</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie cannoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. 

There&#039;s a reason Leon County has the largest number :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a reason Leon County has the largest number <img src='http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JimDavidson</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/boston-tea-party-adopts-campaign-for-liberty-four-point-program-elects-new-officers/comment-page-1/#comment-20829</link>
		<dc:creator>JimDavidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a small number, to be sure, but there are 51 actual voters who are actually affiliated with Boston Tea party on their voter registrations in Florida, right now.  That&#039;s kind of cool, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a small number, to be sure, but there are 51 actual voters who are actually affiliated with Boston Tea party on their voter registrations in Florida, right now.  That&#8217;s kind of cool, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas L. Knapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas L. Knapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent,

&quot;The BTP has been in existence for 2 full years and has 500 members and an online existence.&quot;

Incorrect. Or, rather, incomplete.

Yes, the BTP has an online existence. It also has a meatspace existence -- registered voters, petition signatures, officeholders, etc.

Are we as far along as the LP? No -- but that shouldn&#039;t be surprising. They have a 36-year head start on us, and we&#039;re competing with them for a political market niche that they had no competition for when they were established.

Are we as far along as we&#039;d like to be? Not by a damn sight ... but we&#039;re up, active, moving and will continue to be so.

In 2009, I expect us to elect our first public officeholders who weren&#039;t already in office when the party was formed. Yes, that will almost certainly happen entirely or almost entirely in putatively &quot;non-partisan&quot; races -- just as continues to be the case with the LP.

In 2010, I expect that some of our state affiliates in &quot;tougher&quot; states will run ballot access drives -- and that that trend will pick up more steam in 2012.

You can pretend that the BTP is &quot;just a blog or something&quot; all day long if you like. The Secretaries of State of Colorado, Florida and Tennessee know better. Forty-seven to go.

We&#039;ll do what we can, and we&#039;ll do it as fast as we can. Just how fast that is may surprise you. Or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent,</p>
<p>&#8220;The BTP has been in existence for 2 full years and has 500 members and an online existence.&#8221;</p>
<p>Incorrect. Or, rather, incomplete.</p>
<p>Yes, the BTP has an online existence. It also has a meatspace existence &#8212; registered voters, petition signatures, officeholders, etc.</p>
<p>Are we as far along as the LP? No &#8212; but that shouldn&#8217;t be surprising. They have a 36-year head start on us, and we&#8217;re competing with them for a political market niche that they had no competition for when they were established.</p>
<p>Are we as far along as we&#8217;d like to be? Not by a damn sight &#8230; but we&#8217;re up, active, moving and will continue to be so.</p>
<p>In 2009, I expect us to elect our first public officeholders who weren&#8217;t already in office when the party was formed. Yes, that will almost certainly happen entirely or almost entirely in putatively &#8220;non-partisan&#8221; races &#8212; just as continues to be the case with the LP.</p>
<p>In 2010, I expect that some of our state affiliates in &#8220;tougher&#8221; states will run ballot access drives &#8212; and that that trend will pick up more steam in 2012.</p>
<p>You can pretend that the BTP is &#8220;just a blog or something&#8221; all day long if you like. The Secretaries of State of Colorado, Florida and Tennessee know better. Forty-seven to go.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll do what we can, and we&#8217;ll do it as fast as we can. Just how fast that is may surprise you. Or not.</p>
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		<title>By: JimDavidson</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/boston-tea-party-adopts-campaign-for-liberty-four-point-program-elects-new-officers/comment-page-1/#comment-20788</link>
		<dc:creator>JimDavidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, we have a public official in Massachusetts who is a Boston Tea Party member.  See our voter&#039;s guide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, we have a public official in Massachusetts who is a Boston Tea Party member.  See our voter&#8217;s guide.</p>
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		<title>By: JimDavidson</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/boston-tea-party-adopts-campaign-for-liberty-four-point-program-elects-new-officers/comment-page-1/#comment-20786</link>
		<dc:creator>JimDavidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, out of curiosity Trent, you know so much, tell us, how many members did the LP have when it ran its first presidential candidate? How many ballots were they on? How many members did they have after two full years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, out of curiosity Trent, you know so much, tell us, how many members did the LP have when it ran its first presidential candidate? How many ballots were they on? How many members did they have after two full years?</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/boston-tea-party-adopts-campaign-for-liberty-four-point-program-elects-new-officers/comment-page-1/#comment-20776</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure it didnt. It was also stepping into a field where libertarianism had no representation as far as parties go. It also experienced quite a bit of success in the first four years,elected legislators, millionaire contributors,etc.

The BTP has been in existence for 2 full years and has 500 members and an online existence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure it didnt. It was also stepping into a field where libertarianism had no representation as far as parties go. It also experienced quite a bit of success in the first four years,elected legislators, millionaire contributors,etc.</p>
<p>The BTP has been in existence for 2 full years and has 500 members and an online existence.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie cannoli</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/boston-tea-party-adopts-campaign-for-liberty-four-point-program-elects-new-officers/comment-page-1/#comment-20774</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie cannoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The LP did not have any of those things when it started, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The LP did not have any of those things when it started, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/10/boston-tea-party-adopts-campaign-for-liberty-four-point-program-elects-new-officers/comment-page-1/#comment-20773</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yes, I do think highly of myself, Trent. Many others do, as well. Actions speak louder than words. How is your recruiting work for RLC going?&quot;

Im not a member or a recruiter for the RLC. You obviosuly know nothing of me, stop guessing. 

&quot;Yes, I do think highly of myself, Trent. Many others do, as well.&quot;

Good for you pumpkin.

&quot;Of course, you revile the LP because you regard it as a split off the GOP, right?&quot;

You can take the distate I have for the BTP and find the square root--that is how much I dislike the LP. Find the square root of that for how much I dislike working through the Republican Party. 
Nonethless,there is nothing absurd about the LP--or at least there is far less that is absurd. They have national offices, millions in fundraising, hundreds of candidates, 800 elected officials (mostly local), etc. The BTP has one Town Meeting Member...and he was grandfathered in...a website, and 500 members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes, I do think highly of myself, Trent. Many others do, as well. Actions speak louder than words. How is your recruiting work for RLC going?&#8221;</p>
<p>Im not a member or a recruiter for the RLC. You obviosuly know nothing of me, stop guessing. </p>
<p>&#8220;Yes, I do think highly of myself, Trent. Many others do, as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good for you pumpkin.</p>
<p>&#8220;Of course, you revile the LP because you regard it as a split off the GOP, right?&#8221;</p>
<p>You can take the distate I have for the BTP and find the square root&#8211;that is how much I dislike the LP. Find the square root of that for how much I dislike working through the Republican Party.<br />
Nonethless,there is nothing absurd about the LP&#8211;or at least there is far less that is absurd. They have national offices, millions in fundraising, hundreds of candidates, 800 elected officials (mostly local), etc. The BTP has one Town Meeting Member&#8230;and he was grandfathered in&#8230;a website, and 500 members.</p>
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		<title>By: JimDavidson</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimDavidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HS, I am glad you find them amusing.  That&#039;s the only reason I&#039;m here.

The Boston Tea Party is a grassroots party, so it is whatever the people involved make of it.  My expectation is that the members have many different visions.  Sometimes those ideas are going to coalesce into action.  Many times, not.

Centralisation has been tried.  It has severe deficits.  It has some benefits.  Two brains may be better than one, but it only takes one brain to come up with a unique new idea.  Two brains come with two mouths to feed and two piles of sewage every day.  

L. Neil Smith&#039;s axiom on the sizes of committees makes a lot of sense.  The effective intelligence of a committee, where X is the intelligence of the smartest person on the committee, is X times one over two to the exponent n, where n is the number of members of the committee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HS, I am glad you find them amusing.  That&#8217;s the only reason I&#8217;m here.</p>
<p>The Boston Tea Party is a grassroots party, so it is whatever the people involved make of it.  My expectation is that the members have many different visions.  Sometimes those ideas are going to coalesce into action.  Many times, not.</p>
<p>Centralisation has been tried.  It has severe deficits.  It has some benefits.  Two brains may be better than one, but it only takes one brain to come up with a unique new idea.  Two brains come with two mouths to feed and two piles of sewage every day.  </p>
<p>L. Neil Smith&#8217;s axiom on the sizes of committees makes a lot of sense.  The effective intelligence of a committee, where X is the intelligence of the smartest person on the committee, is X times one over two to the exponent n, where n is the number of members of the committee.</p>
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		<title>By: JimDavidson</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimDavidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paulie, go where the action is.  If you have a lot of other action to cover, go cover it.  No big deal.

The convention ends when it ends.  I think there were a number of potential inputs to the convention process which could have caused it to run longer, such as proposals for member generated program points.

Unless I&#039;m mistaken about the process, the convention ends in 90 minutes, at 21:00 eastern time, tonight.  Tom Knapp would be more likely to have an authoritative view on this point, since he wrote the bylaws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paulie, go where the action is.  If you have a lot of other action to cover, go cover it.  No big deal.</p>
<p>The convention ends when it ends.  I think there were a number of potential inputs to the convention process which could have caused it to run longer, such as proposals for member generated program points.</p>
<p>Unless I&#8217;m mistaken about the process, the convention ends in 90 minutes, at 21:00 eastern time, tonight.  Tom Knapp would be more likely to have an authoritative view on this point, since he wrote the bylaws.</p>
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		<title>By: JimDavidson</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimDavidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is the way it ought to be attempted. Make your local or state affilliate run as an accessible vehicle for liberty. If it works, the method will spread to other states and so on.&quot;

Try it.  Others have tried it.  Don&#039;t expect good results.  Recent experiences in many states where state affiliates are run as accessible vehicles for liberty under the LP banner have brought down fire and vengeance from the national LP.  Try talking to some of the people in Delaware, Tennessee, New Hampshire, or Massachusetts about how things have gone for them.  Or look at Arizona in 2000.

You want to fix the LP?  Good!  Go fix it.

There are a great many people who want to see it fixed.  Many of us have spent time, money, recruited our friends, and tried all sorts of things.  What you are saying is nothing new.  Others have tried it.  But, it is probably the case that you are the one.  Only you can fix the LP.  Of course, you revile the LP because you regard it as a split off the GOP, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is the way it ought to be attempted. Make your local or state affilliate run as an accessible vehicle for liberty. If it works, the method will spread to other states and so on.&#8221;</p>
<p>Try it.  Others have tried it.  Don&#8217;t expect good results.  Recent experiences in many states where state affiliates are run as accessible vehicles for liberty under the LP banner have brought down fire and vengeance from the national LP.  Try talking to some of the people in Delaware, Tennessee, New Hampshire, or Massachusetts about how things have gone for them.  Or look at Arizona in 2000.</p>
<p>You want to fix the LP?  Good!  Go fix it.</p>
<p>There are a great many people who want to see it fixed.  Many of us have spent time, money, recruited our friends, and tried all sorts of things.  What you are saying is nothing new.  Others have tried it.  But, it is probably the case that you are the one.  Only you can fix the LP.  Of course, you revile the LP because you regard it as a split off the GOP, right?</p>
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		<dc:creator>JimDavidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent, respect is earned.  No one automatically gets respect just because they bring bone headed ides to my attention.  Nobody automatically earns courtesy, either.  Trust, confidence, respect, courtesy, all must be earned.  If you throw away your confidence and trust on those unworthy of it, don&#039;t be surprised when they disappoint you.

Yes, I do think highly of myself, Trent.  Many others do, as well.  Actions speak louder than words.  How is your recruiting work for RLC going?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent, respect is earned.  No one automatically gets respect just because they bring bone headed ides to my attention.  Nobody automatically earns courtesy, either.  Trust, confidence, respect, courtesy, all must be earned.  If you throw away your confidence and trust on those unworthy of it, don&#8217;t be surprised when they disappoint you.</p>
<p>Yes, I do think highly of myself, Trent.  Many others do, as well.  Actions speak louder than words.  How is your recruiting work for RLC going?</p>
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