And honestly, Nolan may play the pseudo-role of “elder statesman” up as much as he can because he founded the party, but it’s not his baby anymore. He already has forgotten one of the prime reasons Palin was picked anyway, and that’s because she’s a woman. So just drop all the social-con/closet lib shit for a second, cause that was clearly secondary.

“As socialist as Nader is, he makes up for it with a sane foreign policy, and his stance against corporate welfare and the military-industrial complex.”

Socialism and statism are not synonymous, no matter how much you would like it to be. But I agree with you. The only question is how much of cutting back on our military budget would save our economy after one term of him? No to Nader.

“Palin is a social conservative, a neocon even.”

Ironically, Deran is more correct about Palin than many libertarians (e.g. Walter Block). She’s a conservative, and not even a particularly good one. Less-bad than McCain to be sure, but that’s a low bar to clear.

“Ralph Nader has more credentials as someone who has done more to fight coporate welfare, war, and to secure a more democratic election system – Nader’s more of a crypto-libertarian than Palin!”

While I would never apply “libertarian” to Nader even prefixed with “crypto”, he certainly is to be praised for many of his positions. Heck, I think Nader would be a better president than Obama. As socialist as Nader is, he makes up for it with a sane foreign policy, and his stance against corporate welfare and the military-industrial complex. I also think he’s less connected to special interests, and all-around more principled than Obama.

I think the libertarian capitalists who are unhappy with Barr are just spinning Palin as a “closet libertarian (capitalist)” out of contrariness and frustration. If we’re calling Palin a crypto-libertarian; Ralph Nader has more credentials as someone who has done more to fight coporate welfare, war, and to secure a more democratic election system – Nader’s more of a crypto-libertarian than Palin!!

And Palin as VP does not make McCain any different from who he is.

How much?

Me too. I’d be willing to bet a small amount of money on it, in fact.

I’ve a gut feeling that many Americans, when they go in the voting booth, will think…

Obama? Black…African black…possibly even African black Muslim?

Palin? Sexy, all-American, girl-next-door, apple pie mom!

Obama? Muslim?

McCain? War hero!

War hero and sexy all-American girl next door, vs. black African Muslim…

Why take a chance?

Or is the fact that Barr paid to murder his own baby enough to satisfy the bloodlust of the anti-family wing of the LP?

Ridiculous. VP picks do not trump economy in tailspin and unpopular wars. Palin will be a liability to McCain among many moderate swing voters, although I agree that she will head off any chance of a breakthrough by Barr and/or Baldwin at the pass.

Make no mistake about this, though many folks probably couldn’t care less:

“Despite his criticisms of the Barr-Root campaign, Nolan says he will be voting for the Libertarian ticket on Election Day.” I however, pursuant to my criticism’s of the Barr/W.A.R. campaign, will NOT be voting for the Libertarian ticket on Election Day!

If W.A.R. ever runs for anything again, with the LP or otherwise, I will likely not vote for him. If he were to apologize for all the lies, and have an epiphany and become a libertarian who actually BELIEVES in liberty instead of just saying that he does, I MIGHT consider voting for him. Any less than this, forget it.