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	<title>Comments on: Ron Paul / Barry Goldwater Jr. makes ballot in Louisiana</title>
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		<title>By: CreoleChairman</title>
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		<dc:creator>CreoleChairman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will Ron Paul be allowed to speak at the National Press Club tomorrow?  It would certainly help his campaign to be seen on television.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Ron Paul be allowed to speak at the National Press Club tomorrow?  It would certainly help his campaign to be seen on television.</p>
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		<title>By: G.E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Obama loses this election, the Democratic Party might realize it has been out-big-governmented by the GOP. If there was a legitimate Jefferson/Cleveland wing of Gold Democrats to step up, there could be possibility. I see none of this. Even the Ron Paul Democrats are all protectionist, completely thwarting the great history of Democratic Party classical liberalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Obama loses this election, the Democratic Party might realize it has been out-big-governmented by the GOP. If there was a legitimate Jefferson/Cleveland wing of Gold Democrats to step up, there could be possibility. I see none of this. Even the Ron Paul Democrats are all protectionist, completely thwarting the great history of Democratic Party classical liberalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If not, how about running someone as a Democrat next time?&quot;

Name someone who could do HALF as well as Johnson or Goldwater would do in the Republican primaries who is also pro-freedom.
Also--this is just as pointless as drafting a third-party candidate,except THIS guy will get into the debates. The point is to utilize everyone Ron Paul has done in the Republican Party thus far,and the resources of the 100,000 member+ Campaign for Liberty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If not, how about running someone as a Democrat next time?&#8221;</p>
<p>Name someone who could do HALF as well as Johnson or Goldwater would do in the Republican primaries who is also pro-freedom.<br />
Also&#8211;this is just as pointless as drafting a third-party candidate,except THIS guy will get into the debates. The point is to utilize everyone Ron Paul has done in the Republican Party thus far,and the resources of the 100,000 member+ Campaign for Liberty.</p>
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		<title>By: randallthayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>randallthayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Gillis,

Here is the list of presidential elector slates that filed in Louisiana:

http://www400.sos.louisiana.gov/cgibin/?rqstyp=CNDMD&amp;rqsdta=110408&amp;ID=01017141

However, there is a possibility that this list will change in the coming days.  The La. Sec. of State&#039;s office is still recovering from the hurricane.  The webpage linked above should update as any changes in the lineup are made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Gillis,</p>
<p>Here is the list of presidential elector slates that filed in Louisiana:</p>
<p><a href="http://www400.sos.louisiana.gov/cgibin/?rqstyp=CNDMD&#038;rqsdta=110408&#038;ID=01017141" rel="nofollow">http://www400.sos.louisiana.gov/cgibin/?rqstyp=CNDMD&#038;rqsdta=110408&#038;ID=01017141</a></p>
<p>However, there is a possibility that this list will change in the coming days.  The La. Sec. of State&#8217;s office is still recovering from the hurricane.  The webpage linked above should update as any changes in the lineup are made.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Church Ortiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Church Ortiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If not, how about running someone as a Democrat next time?&lt;/i&gt;

Suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If not, how about running someone as a Democrat next time?</i></p>
<p>Suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: paulie cannoli</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulie cannoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have technology which I think can bypass that. 

If not, how about running someone as a Democrat next time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have technology which I think can bypass that. </p>
<p>If not, how about running someone as a Democrat next time?</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paulie,

Im not so sure. I used to be convinced of that--but I dont think anyone could disagree than Ron Paul only got as much press and attention as he did because he was a Republican and in the debates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paulie,</p>
<p>Im not so sure. I used to be convinced of that&#8211;but I dont think anyone could disagree than Ron Paul only got as much press and attention as he did because he was a Republican and in the debates.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie cannoli</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulie cannoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Ron Paul activists are looking for a Republican to draft, i.e.â€“Rep. Goldwater, Gov. Johnson, etc. &lt;/i&gt;

Mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Ron Paul activists are looking for a Republican to draft, i.e.â€“Rep. Goldwater, Gov. Johnson, etc. </i></p>
<p>Mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ventura will not hold together the Ron Paul coalition. Any new standard bearer has to be pro-life and not hostile to religion. Otherwise you lose the conservative element of his coalition.&quot;

Ventura is an entertaining guy, and has gotten closer to being a liberty-candidate in the past couple of months (I guess because of the Ron Paul campaign) and I trust him--he is an honest guy. But I would not try to draft him, and he would not run as a republican--but as a third-partier. Ron Paul activists are looking for a Republican to draft, i.e.--Rep. Goldwater, Gov. Johnson, etc. 

There is rumor of a network of draft movements---to court freedom-candidates in big elections all over the country. For example, recruiting State Senator Jerry Ward to run for Governor in Alaska and former state Rep. Dick Randolph as Lt. Governor--one an AIPer and one an LPer, both to run in the Republican primary together. Former Rep. Don Gorman to run for Congress or Senate in NH as a Republican. Rep. Michael Doherty for Congress in New Jersey. Rep. Roger Koopman or state senator Aubyn Curtis for Governor/Lt. Governor in Montana.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ventura will not hold together the Ron Paul coalition. Any new standard bearer has to be pro-life and not hostile to religion. Otherwise you lose the conservative element of his coalition.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ventura is an entertaining guy, and has gotten closer to being a liberty-candidate in the past couple of months (I guess because of the Ron Paul campaign) and I trust him&#8211;he is an honest guy. But I would not try to draft him, and he would not run as a republican&#8211;but as a third-partier. Ron Paul activists are looking for a Republican to draft, i.e.&#8211;Rep. Goldwater, Gov. Johnson, etc. </p>
<p>There is rumor of a network of draft movements&#8212;to court freedom-candidates in big elections all over the country. For example, recruiting State Senator Jerry Ward to run for Governor in Alaska and former state Rep. Dick Randolph as Lt. Governor&#8211;one an AIPer and one an LPer, both to run in the Republican primary together. Former Rep. Don Gorman to run for Congress or Senate in NH as a Republican. Rep. Michael Doherty for Congress in New Jersey. Rep. Roger Koopman or state senator Aubyn Curtis for Governor/Lt. Governor in Montana.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie cannoli</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulie cannoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not to suggest that Ventura is a good choice. 

With politicians who have actually been elected before, record in office speaks more loudly than any amount of fine rhetoric. Thomas Jefferson was great on paper, not so great as president. Ronald Reagan said some good things, but he did not mean them. The USSR had a constitution, but nobody followed it. But then, the same is true of the US. 

Jesse Ventura has always run on libertarian rhetoric - for mayor, then governor, and now perhaps for president. He has always governed as a centrist liberal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not to suggest that Ventura is a good choice. </p>
<p>With politicians who have actually been elected before, record in office speaks more loudly than any amount of fine rhetoric. Thomas Jefferson was great on paper, not so great as president. Ronald Reagan said some good things, but he did not mean them. The USSR had a constitution, but nobody followed it. But then, the same is true of the US. </p>
<p>Jesse Ventura has always run on libertarian rhetoric &#8211; for mayor, then governor, and now perhaps for president. He has always governed as a centrist liberal.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Just out of curiousity, who are the electors for the Louisiana Taxpayers slate? Iâ€™m pretty sure you and Walter Block are, but who are the other seven?&quot;

Walter Block is not an elector. Most of them are relative-unknowns, just regular activists from around LA. Originally the plan had been to get some of our prominent guys, the former state director, the chairman of the Louisiana Taxpayers Union, the executive director of Louisiana Right to Life, the chairmen of the LP and CP in LA---but time did not permit us to do this. Still--all of those people support us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just out of curiousity, who are the electors for the Louisiana Taxpayers slate? Iâ€™m pretty sure you and Walter Block are, but who are the other seven?&#8221;</p>
<p>Walter Block is not an elector. Most of them are relative-unknowns, just regular activists from around LA. Originally the plan had been to get some of our prominent guys, the former state director, the chairman of the Louisiana Taxpayers Union, the executive director of Louisiana Right to Life, the chairmen of the LP and CP in LA&#8212;but time did not permit us to do this. Still&#8211;all of those people support us.</p>
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		<title>By: paulie cannoli</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulie cannoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree. He would have gotten farther without the ballast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. He would have gotten farther without the ballast.</p>
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		<title>By: Spence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. Ron Paul got where he was in large part to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. Ron Paul got where he was in large part to that.</p>
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		<title>By: RedPhillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>RedPhillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ventura will not hold together the Ron Paul coalition. Any new standard bearer has to be pro-life and not hostile to religion. Otherwise you lose the conservative element of his coalition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ventura will not hold together the Ron Paul coalition. Any new standard bearer has to be pro-life and not hostile to religion. Otherwise you lose the conservative element of his coalition.</p>
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		<title>By: Spence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 08:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, cause anyone that uses that euphemism must be referring to someone homosexual. How narrow-minded.  I&#039;m wondering why Goldwater did not actually run, himself. Is that so mind-boggling or audacious to ponder? 

Back on topic, if he managed to get that spot on a major network, and NOT C-Span, I would certainly be interested, but McCain and Obama would certainly not show and it would probably be pitted against football or something of the like for some local affiliate or empty station. (Like myNetwork.) Coupled with Barr&#039;s statements to debating other third party candidates...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, cause anyone that uses that euphemism must be referring to someone homosexual. How narrow-minded.  I&#8217;m wondering why Goldwater did not actually run, himself. Is that so mind-boggling or audacious to ponder? </p>
<p>Back on topic, if he managed to get that spot on a major network, and NOT C-Span, I would certainly be interested, but McCain and Obama would certainly not show and it would probably be pitted against football or something of the like for some local affiliate or empty station. (Like myNetwork.) Coupled with Barr&#8217;s statements to debating other third party candidates&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Gillis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Gillis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 06:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who else filed for the LA ballot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who else filed for the LA ballot?</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear god no. That is from pre-1999,when the Constitution Party was named the US Taxpayers Party.

Our new one is pretty well-done I think. It will debut in a couple days and i&#039;ll keep you guys posted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear god no. That is from pre-1999,when the Constitution Party was named the US Taxpayers Party.</p>
<p>Our new one is pretty well-done I think. It will debut in a couple days and i&#8217;ll keep you guys posted.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hugh Jass,

Any draft movement will likely take place through the Republican primaries--as that is what Ron Paul did and part of why he got so much attention. Had Giuliani never argued with Ron Paul at that first presidential debate--the Ron Paul revolution would have never launched the way it did. 

If the LATP is still around in 2012, and I suspect it might be, I may not even be involved. But I&#039;d guess that it&#039;d probably place someone other than a draft candidate on the ballot---we dont want to become the Independent Greens or anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugh Jass,</p>
<p>Any draft movement will likely take place through the Republican primaries&#8211;as that is what Ron Paul did and part of why he got so much attention. Had Giuliani never argued with Ron Paul at that first presidential debate&#8211;the Ron Paul revolution would have never launched the way it did. </p>
<p>If the LATP is still around in 2012, and I suspect it might be, I may not even be involved. But I&#8217;d guess that it&#8217;d probably place someone other than a draft candidate on the ballot&#8212;we dont want to become the Independent Greens or anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Jass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh Jass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this the website you were referring to: http://www.orion-cs.com/latp/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the website you were referring to: <a href="http://www.orion-cs.com/latp/" rel="nofollow">http://www.orion-cs.com/latp/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Jass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh Jass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Replying to Trent post #21:

If the LTP is still around in 2012, is it possible that they might have a convention to put one of those draft candidates on the ballot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Replying to Trent post #21:</p>
<p>If the LTP is still around in 2012, is it possible that they might have a convention to put one of those draft candidates on the ballot?</p>
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